SUPP 2017 MAFIA: COMPLETE
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Krazy Jack of All Trades
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So yeah, yesterday I was worried that CShep was SK with a mafia train on him, but now that Maria flipped I think he's just scum. This pretty much nukes my reading of Deas too, so I'm hoping I didn't throw last night. At the time I was thinking I could prevent an organized mafia quickhammer today.
Is there any chance that Vax is both nightkill and detection immune as GF? IMO seems unlikely. Vax is SK or Vax is town, either way he does not get lynched today. Mafia is too far in the lead.
Then again I basically don't play large themes so maybe setup speculation like that is wrong.vote conspiracy-
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I'm convinced that you don't think he's scum but I'm not convinced that you're not some third party bullshit. This fucks up my reads some, but not quite enough to change votes.
Your roleclaim is way too convoluted to be entirely fake. But at a glance it kinda seems way too dope to be town-aligned.vote conspiracy-
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I guess Chara was skeptical of the speed of hammers but I kind of don't think scum let Shepherd not get lynched yesterday if he's town. That's probably not very good reasoning though.
At some point I need to sit down and work up a flowchart of wtf is even going on in this game. Right now feeling better about Shepherd than anyone else though.vote conspiracy-
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Feel better about you = feel better about you (being the lynch for today)In post 2650, Commander Shepard wrote:
If you’re feeling better about me why are you voting me?In post 2647, Krazy wrote:I guess Chara was skeptical of the speed of hammers but I kind of don't think scum let Shepherd not get lynched yesterday if he's town. That's probably not very good reasoning though.
At some point I need to sit down and work up a flowchart of wtf is even going on in this game. Right now feeling better about Shepherd than anyone else though.
Wouldn’t you feel worse about me?
*confused*
Second off there is 11 alive likely 4 scum 1 SK and I doubt Vax is truthtelling but if he is then whatever he is.
This means 3 deaths possible overnight.
Lynch correctly or lose range
Shoshin if you have an explanation for why the fuck you are alive I wanna hear it.vote conspiracy-
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Mostly because I went to sleep and you were not hammered. Not very good but it sure does seem like there is real resistance to your wagon.
Although there also arent just a ton of people diving on fire. Still. In this gamestate hanging at l-2 for a day with this many scum seems telling to me.vote conspiracy-
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Why wouldn't I? I was a slot that could double vote in what was probably lylo. To make it abundantly clear that I was damn near role-confirmed obvtown so I wouldn't have to deal with bullshit like this today. Of everyone, you are the one I do not get thinking I'm scum, since this game would literally already be over if I was and you are not. That this game is even still going when I had a double vote in probable-lylo is pretty strong fucking evidence that I'm not scum.In post 2832, Shoshin wrote:
Like, why even make this post if you're town?In post 2718, Krazy wrote:Posting to show that I'm online and not quickhammering Shoshin.vote conspiracy-
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Not Voting (8): Punreader, Krazy, DeasVail, Espeonage, the worst, Shoshin, guacamole, VaxkillerIn post 2545, Dunnstral wrote:vax is cop checked
espe is cop checked
I'm cop checked
None of these are viable by mechanics right now - we wait a day and then we sort out the cops. This is why I want to lynch CommanderShepard
DeasVail could not have done the scum nightkill because I roleblocked him last night.
Guac and the worst were off the bus, have no cop checks on them, and were not roleblocked last night.
Sheeping Dunn on TRs leaves me to conclude the worst is likely scum through PoE. What is the defense of the worst at the moment?In post 2803, Dunnstral wrote:
Espe Town, Punreader Town, Vaxkiller Town, guacamole likely town by role, krazy seems towny tooIn post 2750, Shoshin wrote:Hey Dunn, what're your reads?
Maybe I should take another look at DeasVeilvote conspiracy-
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In post 2852, DeasVail wrote: Krazy, I am also slightly confused by your approach to me over the last couple of game-days. Obviously you came into the game suspecting me, which is fair, yet seemed to be questioning that read from the beginning of Day 4. 2820 seems to imply that you think I am town? However then you revealed that you roleblocked me, which I find to be a strange choice given that I believe you had reason to think that I would not be performing the night kill as scum. This is also unconfirmed, but I actually don't believe I was successfully roleblocked last night? This will become more clear later.
Although I'm not sure how much you understood what happened, I was thinking you were basically locktown when you did not fight me on C.Shep vote or try to get things going on Shoshin. But it is possible you didn't even know you could control the vote? I honestly have no idea how clear the mod explanation was, because I was pretty fucking confused the first time I read it. I would not have targeted you if I had understood how the role worked LOL. Thankfully my replace-in reads were bad enough that it worked out by accident.vote conspiracy-
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lol I didn't even know that you were confirmed visiting role.
Listen, I had no idea what the fuck was going on in this game. I looked at a town that hadn't flipped anything good and was like, "well that wagon is probably scum, so DV is scum, ez." So my plan was to deny your vote (because I thought we both had to agree, rather than both controlling each other's), and also roleblock you. Let's not overestimate my sense of the game state before Maria flipped and I realized Chara had a waaaay better read of the game than I did.
Who did you give a cat to last night?
@Shoshin, if you don't want to get mislynched please explain why the worst is better than you atm.vote conspiracy-
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OK, I'm only interested in your case on Guac in that case.In post 2870, Shoshin wrote:I don't think the worst is scum.
Last scum is among Krazy, Guac, or DV. I need to figure out who it is, though.vote conspiracy-
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This is is really fucking weird because I almost feel like Shoshin is trying to talk me into concluding he's the GF.
Shoshin, you're saying: The worst is town, Espe is town, and Screen/guac are town. Pun killed FA? DV didn't make the nightkill. And I didn't make the nightkill. So who the fuck is the scum that made the nightkill, Shoshin?
Either you're wrong about one of Espe/Screen/the worst, Vax is a godfather, or you just hardclaimed scum. (From my pov)vote conspiracy-
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How are you confirmed if everyone fullclaims before your flavor cop results?In post 2948, the worst wrote:I'm a flavour cop of sorts--I don't get alignment indicative results tho.
Full details following those 3 fullclaims because my claim is actually a bit spicier that I thought it was.
It seems like you have to claim before some people otherwise there is no way to confirm you.
Your logic seems backward.vote conspiracy-
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That being said Dunn's reads are usually not total shit so if he didn't kill Esp on n2 maybe it was convincing enough for him.
Worst, I'm not ignoring you. I refused. Right now, you are my top suspect, so if you can hard-clear yourself, that is more valuable to me than knowing I'm hard-cleared to you.vote conspiracy
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