Open 734: Paris Mafia (13-player variation) - Game Over

[RockyHorror]

also i think lane already alluded to this but i hope you all realize that anyone you mimeread could be scum posturing as such? just thought that was important

wow what a great post I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet

[RockyHorror]

My argument the other way is that trying to look a bit mime-ish on the first post would seem like a clever move if your role is mafia because of that initial "but what if they are a mime!?!" wifom response, which could help later, while Mimes would be worried about getting that same response. A bit of "but what if MIME" read from early game is good for Mafia avoiding lynches, bad for Mimes wanting to get lynched. It's a small thing, but people go back and look at the first posts of the game all the time.

also I don't really care about the Mime thing unless we lynch one, generally I feel like trying to distinguish between Mime/Mafia play is gonna be a barrel of WIFOM and not worth it

At least personally I don't think I'll be able to tell the difference between scum and mime.

Oh wait you mean we've already been over this and so bringing it up again is pretty pointless rn?

[Kmd4390]

Vote Count

Almost50 - 5 - Eragon, Jingle, Nero Cain, RockyHorror, Sesq
Sesq - 4 - lane0168, innocentvillager, GuiltyLion, FA_Q2
Nero Cain - 2 - Thor665, Almost50
GuiltyLion - 1 - Fink

Not Voting - Aristophanes

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch

Deadline is Sunday September 2 at 10pm EST

[Almost50]

VOTE: Sesq

@Sesq: Congrats on almost getting your immediate goal (of getting lynched) done. I am now forced to vote you to get the wagons even, and I think it's slightly more likely that you would get lynched over me.

[Redacted] I'll leave this till later.

[RockyHorror]

[Redacted] I'll leave this till later.

You're at L-2 with just over 24 hours to deadline. How much "later" are you talking?

[Eragon]

do i trust my reads on people as mime...

or do i just lynch who i think is scum lmao.

[RockyHorror]

I think that being afraid of a mime lynch is what caused most of the game to stagnate early on - lane's comment about this being a "careful" game makes sense.

At this point, we only worry about the mimes if we lynch one. Until then, their win condition is just a distraction.

[Eragon]

then im fine with both wagons right now

[lane0168]

VOTE: Sesq

@Sesq: Congrats on almost getting your immediate goal (of getting lynched) done. I am now forced to vote you to get the wagons even, and I think it's slightly more likely that you would get lynched over me.

[Redacted] I'll leave this till later.

You'll probably be the Lynch. So you should come out with it

[Almost50]

[Redacted] I'll leave this till later.

You're at L-2 with just over 24 hours to deadline. How much "later" are you talking?

Twilight, maybe?

[Almost50]

VOTE: Sesq

@Sesq: Congrats on almost getting your immediate goal (of getting lynched) done. I am now forced to vote you to get the wagons even, and I think it's slightly more likely that you would get lynched over me.

[Redacted] I'll leave this till later.

You'll probably be the Lynch. So you should come out with it

Why am I probably the lynch? Are you thinking of switching your vote??

[lane0168]

VOTE: Sesq

@Sesq: Congrats on almost getting your immediate goal (of getting lynched) done. I am now forced to vote you to get the wagons even, and I think it's slightly more likely that you would get lynched over me.

[Redacted] I'll leave this till later.

You'll probably be the Lynch. So you should come out with it

Why am I probably the lynch? Are you thinking of switching your vote??

Yeah

[Almost50]

That would be scummy as hell, considering you were all for a Sesq lynch and not at all interested in mine earlier.

[lane0168]

That would be scummy as hell, considering you were all for a Sesq lynch and not at all interested in mine earlier.

If by "all for" you mean "voting for" and by "not at all interested" you mean "not voting for" then yes, that would be correct.

Even if we pretend I hadn't expressed interest/suspicion about you, considering you're leading wagon, and 24 hours left in the day, what would be scummy about it?

[Nero Cain]

then im fine with both wagons right now

I vastly perfer A50 over Sesq.

[Almost50]

considering you're leading wagon

I'm not. We're tied. This is how the VC looks like (with Aris not voting):

Almost50 (5): Eragon, Jingle, Nero Cain, RockyHorror, Sesq,
Sesq (5): lane0168, innocentvillager, GuiltyLion, FA_Q2, Almost50,
Nero Cain (1): Thor665,
GuiltyLion (1): Fink,

Aristophanes,

[Eragon]

Technicallly from lane’s POV you are the leading wagon becuase he is on the sesq wagon, meaning that he can’t increase the amount of votes on that wagon while he can put you to L-1.

[Eragon]

Literally and for intents and purposes it’s tied

For lanes POV, it’s not

[Almost50]

I mean, let's think about it: When did I become a major lynch candidate? It was after a series of replacements that brought in both Nero and Jingle (for DoubtingThomas & UnrealSeal), and while Unreal had no pressure on him DT certainly was being pressured hard enough.

It is also worth noting that while I was addressing Eragon I phrased my post in a way that could be interpreted as crumbing a PR (not confirming or denying this).

What do Mafia want? They want to identify the Watcher then the Vig. If I claim Vig I'm probably safe, but then Mimes would know one of their blocking targets. If I claim Watcher then Mafia will shoot me, and Mimes don't really care.

So it follows that if

the real reason

I'm being wagoned is to get a claim that both Mimes AND Mafia would be on my wagon (for Mimes, the second best thing to them being lynched is to identify a killing role to block).

So, what am I saying? Apart from Eragon (who has been on me all game and even before I ever said anything) all the other 4 are [rime suspects. For me, I', pretty sure Sesq is a Mime. Rocky has been smooth all over game I can't really say I'm sure what alignment he is. Jingle and Nero both lean Mafia to me, but Jingle more so.

I'll have more to say about this "when I feel like it", but this is where I stand for now. I still maintain Sesq's is likely partner is lane. His threat to vote me is nothing but "more pressure in hopes to get a claim". He still prefers to lynch Sesq over me.

That's it for now.

[Eragon]

Almost50 (5): Eragon, Jingle, Nero Cain, RockyHorror, Sesq,
Sesq (5): lane0168, innocentvillager, GuiltyLion, FA_Q2, Almost50,
Nero Cain (1): Thor665,
GuiltyLion (1): Fink,


so im just gonna ignore Sesq and A50 on each other's wagons becuase they were both the last votes and probably just self-pres.

A50: Me, jingle, nero, rocky.
I have a town lean on everyone here, so i feel this wagon is pure(other than sesq)

Sesq: Lane, IV, GL, FA_Q2
this is a lot nuller of a wagon IMO, i dont really have strong leans on anyone here, other than a tonal TR on IV.

[GuiltyLion]

agh I don't have time to post today but I know the deadline is tomorrow in ~24 hours, I will be around and posting all tomorrow

[GuiltyLion]

a50 is very likely town though I can't believe this is a wagon

will review in depth tomorrow

[Aristophanes]

I can like, hammer but I'm nit reading on the meet...

[Jingle]

443 is a really tempting post. REALLY tempting.

UNVOTE:

I need to think when I'm a little less drunk, but I may actually be in favor of forcing the no lynch over either of these lynches at the moment.

[Jingle]

I'll be around most of tomorrow, btw. Probably not double checking the thread every ten minutes, but around.