Micro 822: THE LAB 4 - Game Over

[My Milked Eek]

I like the bee.

Well, I don't.

VOTE: Hydra lol

Posting style aside, it's mainly for #25 and #26.

[My Milked Eek]

I like the bee.

Well, I don't.

VOTE: Hydra lol

Posting style aside, it's mainly for #25 and #26.

you obviously havent played with mylo

Maybe...? It's been too long.

[My Milked Eek]

I like the bee.

Well, I don't.

VOTE: Hydra lol

Posting style aside, it's mainly for #25 and #26.

you obviously havent played with mylo

Maybe...? It's been too long.

Don't worry if you haven't, hopefully you can catch along soon enough!

Anyway, do you have any other scum reads?

I'm not worried at all

And yes, even a better one than you!
I've been thinking it over during work today and I can't find an angle that makes sense why Maria posted #47, especially when followed by #49 and #55.

UNVOTE: Hydra lol
VOTE: Maria

1.

@Milked Eel

- What makes you dislike those posts and what makes them scummy? What do you think of the rest of their posts?

It's Ee

k

, not Eel.

What bothered me the most was that those posts seem like they're making too much of an effort to let us know they haven't read their role, etc. In itself, not very scummy, but at the time, those were the posts I didn't see town make either.

Rest of their posts is a lot of fluff and anyone, scum or town, can post fluff.


Other than that, not much has been said.

[My Milked Eek]

Emperor

What are your scum reads atm?

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Ugh, this is why I dislike playing with Hydras. One head votes with me, the other for me.

I understand your issue with the phrasing there. It's hard for me to find the exact English words to describe why I don't like that sequence of posts. It also didn't help I had to re-type it in a hurry because of a browser hiccup.

My vote mainly revolves around #49 and #50. First of, for the same reason why I disliked your (Hydra lol) posts. It's trying too hard. Post #49 and #50 feel manipulative, feels like she's trying to steer us in one way to think about that "slip". The same can be said about your posts earlier on, it felt like you were trying too hard to let us know that you didn't read your role PM/list/etc. And here Maria is trying to play a certain angle too hard. The second issue I'm having is that that sequence, in contrast to yours, also feels like rolefishing. There could be a different angle here, but I'm not seeing how a town would play like that.


Also, I'd rather for us to get on Maria's wagon and see where it goes instead of going for inactives. I'd rather have them replace out than have us waste a day or two voting for them and then unvoting because there's a new player in that slot.

@Mod?

[My Milked Eek]

Could somebody explain the dunnstral wagon to me?

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Apologies, I forgot it was a holiday weekend in the states. Prods going out tomorrow seems more than reasonable.

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yes hydras are the worst lets kill them all

Not Voting: MariaR, Aronis

Go for it.



I'm seeing a lot of agreeing with my read on Maria, but not a lot of voting.

@Hydra

, am I reading it correctly that it's only meta giving you a townread on Maria?

[My Milked Eek]

Where were you three pages ago? What changed your mind?

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Hydra, where you at?

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I'm also not seeing the Aronis wagon. What I am seeing is that Hydra stopped posting here until Aronis' wagon got big enough and then they piled on.
I also don't like Maria being on the Aronis wagon as well.
And I like it even less that Hydra at one time voted Maria, then unvoted, but was still suspicious of her aside from meta and something they don't want to share.

UNVOTE: Maria
VOTE: Hydra lol

This is L-1 by my count.

[My Milked Eek]

I'm also not seeing the Aronis wagon. What I am seeing is that Hydra stopped posting here until Aronis' wagon got big enough and then they piled on.
I also don't like Maria being on the Aronis wagon as well.
And I like it even less that Hydra at one time voted Maria, then unvoted, but was still suspicious of her aside from meta and something they don't want to share.

UNVOTE: Maria
VOTE: Hydra lol

This is L-1 by my count.

Woah Woah Woah why are we L-1 lol??

Because we have one RL day left and although I'd rather see Maria go, you're still a good second choice.

[My Milked Eek]

Aronis isn't an awful wagon, I'd obviously prefer my scum reads but I guess they're okay to wagon? If Invis is up for it I guess that's all okay?

Why? Why is Aronis a good wagon?

[My Milked Eek]

These are all half-reasonable points lol. I mean technically I did stop posting but that was because I forgot to check this game lol. I guess you can not like Maria's vote after showing suspicion on them, and honestly I do wish they, you know, explained their vote?

Actually yeah, @Maria can you actually explain your reasoning for voting Aronis lol? Just rereading now that is kinda a weird vote lol.

Anyway back to your post, it should be mentioned that Invis was the one who was on the Maria wagon, while I was defending them.

Wait sorry sorry got to eat dinner brb

This does nothing to help me feel better about hydrae.

[My Milked Eek]

Aronis isn't an awful wagon, I'd obviously prefer my scum reads but I guess they're okay to wagon? If Invis is up for it I guess that's all okay?

Why? Why is Aronis a good wagon?

Correction:

Why is Aronis not an awful wagon?

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And don't give me that Hydra spiel. You're both on the same account, if there's a vote you both sign off on it. I assume you talked it over before voting, or even after.

[My Milked Eek]

Also, how could you forget this game if you have 64 posts out of 160?

[My Milked Eek]

Maybe, has anyone tried messaging him?

[My Milked Eek]

Just messaged him.

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No reply as of yet :/

Hope everything is ok.

[My Milked Eek]

Only had bad phone access. Will post later today at/after work.

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I don't think xyzzy's hammer is scummy. It's null.

My reads haven't changed since yesterday. It's still Hydra and Maria. I explained why yesterday, the lynch and NK didn't do much to change that.
I'm actually very curious as to why Hydra is voting me, as far as I know, their vote is very reactionary.

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VOTE: Hydra lol

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So, you're sheeping Hydra by not voting for whom they were voting? (i.e. me). I'm happy with less votes on me obviously, but you're lying here.

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Spoiler: Every post of Hydra that references me, spoiler alert, only reason given for not scumreading me is my poor initial explanation of my Maria vote

I like the bee.

Well, I don't.

VOTE: Hydra lol

Posting style aside, it's mainly for #25 and #26.

you obviously havent played with mylo

I like the bee.

Well, I don't.

VOTE: Hydra lol

Posting style aside, it's mainly for #25 and #26.

Be wary, I shall continue to make posts like that throughout the entire game!

I like the bee.

Well, I don't.

VOTE: Hydra lol

Posting style aside, it's mainly for #25 and #26.

you obviously havent played with mylo

Maybe...? It's been too long.

Don't worry if you haven't, hopefully you can catch along soon enough!

Anyway, do you have any other scum reads?

I don't really have a townread on anyone yet lol, which is kinda sad because 3/4 of you are town

I guess I think {Emperor, MariaR} are not worth going for just yet? But like geez, Imma have to push you guys to town tell lol.

Okay, so I think that MariaR really is not worth going for right now. Can't really explain it now but like it's not a good wagon.

Emperor's new Groove is probably town, so not considering them right now.

Dunn is also probably town, but a bit less so than Emperor.

Ceejay and Sky need to post more lol. I think I finally understand everyone's frustration with my lurking. Like, they're both perfect nulls right now lol.

Aronis also needs to post more, but I guess I kiinda townlean them for now? There's bigger fish to fry than them.

That leaves Xyzzy and My Milked Eek, who I'm going to lol!call them my current best guess for scum team lol. Just because neither have really given me a reason to townread them, and I have some decent reasons to consider them scummy.

My Milked Eek voted for me because he thought I was suspicious, which is I guess fair if you don't know my town VS. scum meta? But their MariaR vote does not sit well now that I don't think MariaR is scum. And I'm not sure if this was accidental or not, but saying "I can't find an angle why Maria posted..." doesn't really make sense because you're not saying it's a scum/town difference, you just don't understand it all lol. In which case, I'm not sure why that is a scum read?

Xyzzy I'm a bit softer on, especially after calling Maria likely town, but I just feel like their posts are not as natural as I'd expect from town!Xyzzy. So I'm pretty wary of them overall.

Sorry Vizzy but VOTE: My Milked Eek

These votes are a bit meh:

Dunnstral (3): Emperors New Groove, xyzzy, MariaR
Hydra lol (1): Dunnstral
ceejayvinoya (1): Skygazer
MariaR (1): My Milked Eek
My Milked Eek (1): Hydra lol
xyzzy (1): ceejayvinoya

Dunn I have a town lean on, I guess not quite as strongly as Emperor or Maria but it's still there. I'm obviously town and hopefully Dunn will switch to a possible scum soon lol. Ceejay and Sky's votes are RVS, and Milked Eek is also voting someone I think is town.

Lol, this is not very good. Would anyone be up for flash wagoning an inactive person lol? I'd also obviously be okay with a MME or xyzzy wagon.

Ugh, this is why I dislike playing with Hydras. One head votes with me, the other for me.

I understand your issue with the phrasing there. It's hard for me to find the exact English words to describe why I don't like that sequence of posts. It also didn't help I had to re-type it in a hurry because of a browser hiccup.

My vote mainly revolves around #49 and #50. First of, for the same reason why I disliked your (Hydra lol) posts. It's trying too hard. Post #49 and #50 feel manipulative, feels like she's trying to steer us in one way to think about that "slip". The same can be said about your posts earlier on, it felt like you were trying too hard to let us know that you didn't read your role PM/list/etc. And here Maria is trying to play a certain angle too hard. The second issue I'm having is that that sequence, in contrast to yours, also feels like rolefishing. There could be a different angle here, but I'm not seeing how a town would play like that.


Also, I'd rather for us to get on Maria's wagon and see where it goes instead of going for inactives. I'd rather have them replace out than have us waste a day or two voting for them and then unvoting because there's a new player in that slot.

@Mod?

yes hydras are the worst lets kill them all

i feel insulted

VOTE: Hydra lol

This is that forgotten hourglass meta where when he sits down and posts a wall he's scum and when he prop dodges all game he's town

Also I feel their stance on me is weird, I'm town for posting but I haven't said much in my opinion

VOTE: Dunnstral
Bah bye

This is bad

vote maria for happy fun times

I don't think I would do that entrance as scum but go for it.

this is also a bad post too
self-meta but the real tipper is the cushioning "go for it" showing us that she doesnt really believe in this statement

So, basically my two biggest scumreads and a null-town voted me alongside with Dunn lol. Why is this not surprising lol.

Aronis isn't an awful wagon, I'd obviously prefer my scum reads but I guess they're okay to wagon? If Invis is up for it I guess that's all okay?

I'm also not seeing the Aronis wagon. What I am seeing is that Hydra stopped posting here until Aronis' wagon got big enough and then they piled on.
I also don't like Maria being on the Aronis wagon as well.
And I like it even less that Hydra at one time voted Maria, then unvoted, but was still suspicious of her aside from meta and something they don't want to share.

UNVOTE: Maria
VOTE: Hydra lol

This is L-1 by my count.

These are all half-reasonable points lol. I mean technically I did stop posting but that was because I forgot to check this game lol. I guess you can not like Maria's vote after showing suspicion on them, and honestly I do wish they, you know, explained their vote?

Actually yeah, @Maria can you actually explain your reasoning for voting Aronis lol? Just rereading now that is kinda a weird vote lol.

Anyway back to your post, it should be mentioned that Invis was the one who was on the Maria wagon, while I was defending them.

Wait sorry sorry got to eat dinner brb

Okay I have to sleep now, and unfortunately I may not be around before deadline ends. So just in case this slot is NK-ed, here's Mylo's final reads!

Emperors New Groove
MariaR
{Dunnstral, Skygazer}
{ceejayvinoya, Aronis}
xyzzy
My Milked Eek

Dunn fell a little bit for not responding to why I found his reasoning bad, and Sky rose a bit honestly for just posting as I'd expect town!Sky to post.

But anyway, hopefully I can be here tomorrow morning but if not I put this slot in full control of Vizzy for the rest of this day phase!

Okay so as we go into the night phase my reads are pretty much as similar as last time:

Emperor
MariaR
{Dunn, Sky}
{Aronis, Ceejay}
Xyzzy
My Milked EEEEEEEK


I talked briefly to Invis about his reads and he said he thinks Sky probably isn't scum here, and that Ceejay hasn't posted anything AI (Which I agree with both lol). But anyway yeah, time for Twilight!

My reads have changed virtually none, Xyzzy's hammer is weird in a few ways but it isn't towny. MME is still my primary scumread, and aside from those and ceejay I really don't want a wagon on anyone else.

VOTE: MyMilkedEek I'm comfortable with this for now, but if Ceejay doesn't show soon enough I'd probably rather pressure that slot. We really can't keep being so quiet, It's not a healthy game-state for town lol.

My reads are probably along the lines of

{MariaR}
{Dunnstral}
{Sky, Ceejay}

{Xyzzy}
{My Milked Eek}

The bottom two are the best lynches, I'm not lynching in the top two and a Sky or Ceejay lynch is probably pointless and not likely to flip scum anyway.

i wanna switch to xyzzy mylo can i switch to xyzzy

Sure!

VOTE: Xyzzy

VOTE: XYZ
kk

So uhh, are you not scumreading MME? And why do you scumread Xyzzy lol?

Anyway lol, basically I think the lynch should be between {MME, Xyzzy} As I believe there's a ~80% chance of at least one scum there lol.

I don't think xyzzy's hammer is scummy. It's null.

My reads haven't changed since yesterday. It's still Hydra and Maria. I explained why yesterday, the lynch and NK didn't do much to change that.
I'm actually very curious as to why Hydra is voting me, as far as I know, their vote is very reactionary.

Uh... you can read the ~11 pages worth of posts to see my opinion on you come to this point right now lol.

[My Milked Eek]

Damn it.

EBWOP:

"...only reason for scumreading me..."

[My Milked Eek]

So, there's no reason aside from a poorly explained reason to my vote on Maria, which I explained better later and even got Hydra to agree with eventually.

[My Milked Eek]

Oh, looking at my ISO I realise I probably have not been explaining my scum read on you enough/at all lol. Let me do that:

Your weird tunnel on this slot is really weird

Uhuh.

and I don't understand why you aren't commenting on pretty much anything but this slot?

You're ignoring my posts on Maria? You even agreed to it at one point... Are you even trying to not misrepresent?

Especially given the fact this slot has provided the most discussion and tried to get others to talk the most.

I don't see how this would be a valid defense. By your logic I should also be town in your opinion because I believe I'm the second most active poster in this game.

Not to mention the fact that everyone who actually know Vizzy and I's meta is townreading us, and the person who was the most strong about it was ALREADY my biggest scumread lol.

I don't care for meta defenses. Especially not by players who are aware of their meta.

And I really don't like any of 155-160's posts, it makes far too many false assumptions and seems to just want to make this slot look worse lol.

What false assumptions? lol. Let me quote them so the others don't need to go browsing to see these false assumptions:

Spoiler: warning, false assumptions

I'm also not seeing the Aronis wagon. What I am seeing is that Hydra stopped posting here until Aronis' wagon got big enough and then they piled on.
I also don't like Maria being on the Aronis wagon as well.
And I like it even less that Hydra at one time voted Maria, then unvoted, but was still suspicious of her aside from meta and something they don't want to share.

UNVOTE: Maria
VOTE: Hydra lol

This is L-1 by my count.

Woah Woah Woah why are we L-1 lol??

Because we have one RL day left and although I'd rather see Maria go, you're still a good second choice.

I falsely assumed we had one RL day left?

Aronis isn't an awful wagon, I'd obviously prefer my scum reads but I guess they're okay to wagon? If Invis is up for it I guess that's all okay?

Why? Why is Aronis a good wagon?

The false assumption must be in here somewhere...

These are all half-reasonable points lol. I mean technically I did stop posting but that was because I forgot to check this game lol. I guess you can not like Maria's vote after showing suspicion on them, and honestly I do wish they, you know, explained their vote?

Actually yeah, @Maria can you actually explain your reasoning for voting Aronis lol? Just rereading now that is kinda a weird vote lol.

Anyway back to your post, it should be mentioned that Invis was the one who was on the Maria wagon, while I was defending them.

Wait sorry sorry got to eat dinner brb

This does nothing to help me feel better about hydrae.

Almost found it! Stop telling people how you feel about Hydrae that can't agree, Eek. Get to the false assumption already!

Aronis isn't an awful wagon, I'd obviously prefer my scum reads but I guess they're okay to wagon? If Invis is up for it I guess that's all okay?

Why? Why is Aronis a good wagon?

Correction:

Why is Aronis not an awful wagon?

Hmmm. Maybe in the next quote?

And don't give me that Hydra spiel. You're both on the same account, if there's a vote you both sign off on it. I assume you talked it over before voting, or even after.

I assumed here. I agree. So you don't talk to each other except through the game thread. We already established that earlier in the thread. This is the false assumption! I shouldn't assume that Hydra should be accountable for their voting pattern. Blaming it on the other head is a valid defense. Noted.

Also, how could you forget this game if you have 64 posts out of 160?

No false assumption here. At the time you had 64 posts and you claimed to have forgotten about this game.

So, try again. Or perhaps I can explain what's going on in my next post.

[My Milked Eek]

It's strange you come to that conclusion. Even Hydra agrees that their read on me wasn't explained enough.

[My Milked Eek]

That was @xyzzy ^

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Come on guys, we only have +-2 days left.

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VOTE: xyzzy

I assume scum is already on my wagon and that's why it's not getting anywhere.
This means I was wrong about Maria.

[My Milked Eek]

So is xyzzy.

[My Milked Eek]

Just get back onto xyzzy. You didn't mind either of us being lynched and apparently no one of maria, dunstral, and sky cares enough about my wagon to vote me.

[My Milked Eek]

That's not a compromise.

[My Milked Eek]

Compromise is what I'm suggesting. Get on xyzzy and you can have a few more RL days to get people to lynch me on D3.

[My Milked Eek]

You can even try to get it right then!

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Come on. You know you want to.

[My Milked Eek]

Joking aside. We're in a stalemate and clearly not getting anywhere.

Perhaps we can go for a different lynch? Somebody who's not xyzzy, me, or Hydra?

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We can of course keep telling each other to vote for the other like we have for the past 2-3 days.

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I mean, we're not getting anywhere. The people not voting aren't showing any intent to vote. People voting aren't showing intent to switch.

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I'd rather be constructive and see if we can get somewhere instead of s-h-i-t-p-o-s-t-i-n-g

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Good job skygazer

And I just went a bit too far on D2. Could have probably survived and forced lylo earlier. Still trying to get back into the game