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Again... words from Gamma would really help here
With MathBlade not wanting to disclose their full role I'm still suspect of them too, but we need a lot more of the alive players to participate.
Unfortunately I feel like with this much separation everyone is gonna be holding off saying much which is why I was somewhat for a mass claim- FULL, with any partners if applicable. Then we just lynch those most likely to be lying. Either way we catch a wolf. Plus there isn't much reason not to mass claim - there are tons of rolls already outed and if we have town night kills, roleblock, and protections we can actually coordinate this. Especially since it seems like the MAJORITY of us need the wolves gone. So it's not even all that messed up to be Mafiate, like they just want to survive too.
Look at the win cons
Mafiate - All wolves are gone, 1 member left alive
Town - All wolves are gone, 1 human left alive
Vampire - All wolves are gone, 1 vampire left alive
I'm interested in what the wolves' win con is with the entire game against them seemingly.
Either way none of our win cons mention each other. Mafiate don't NEED to kill town. They just need to be here.
We could essentially call a truce and hunt wolves. Mafiate can cross confirm their partners. Any false claim would be exposed upon lynch and implicate their partners and make them targets for lynch.
"Oh GLOW, what if a Wolf claims to be mafia with someone else and blah blah blah- Obviously the person could counter and one out of those two is a wolf guaranteed."
I mean there are 10 of us alive.
Looks like 3? Mafiate
2? Vampire (this is a big question)
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I don't think the Mafia and 3P need to hide. That's why I immediate claimed upon replacing in. Our win cons aren't against town. It just makes it seem like we are. It's more of a mindfuck than anything else. That's kind of why I think the title is cheeky. IT literally says lynch the wolves like they knew this was going to be super distracting.- glowball
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The don't necessarily all have to be, considering there was a town aligned Angel (non-human). I'm assuming the same can be true for Mafia.In post 5104, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Err mafia is human tooIn post 5046, Vecna wrote:thats a good point, he doesnt, normally. Still, the werewolves might have more info that there is like a mafiate faction hunting them or whatever.
Mathblade is pretty good at mechanical deductions, so I wouldnt put it past him to logic his way to it.
either way, him not knowing at D1, and him wanting to play a deepcover game - having more humans in there to guarantee the hood to keep working is only good for him right? Hide in plain sight and all that.
And I've got other games but if you post stuff at me I can probably respond for the time being
I cannot kill. What makes you think Vampires can kill? What kill flavor is that?In post 5115, Vecna wrote:
Its not multibalIn post 5108, Gamma Emerald wrote:
What fucks me up wrt to multiball is mastina said this game was built using Alisae modding style as a reference right? Well Alisae hates multiball with a fiery passion, so that just fucks me up. So honestly, I have no real expectations for any sort of sense from this setup anymore.In post 5052, Vecna wrote:I dont even know how it works number-wise with a scum faction, a vampire, an angel and wolves.
I guess even oath -could- be a wolf or whatever, but I dont see how that would work.
Its everyone vs the wolves, with survivor factions.
Mafia is a survivor faction with nightkills and a PT that can win with town
Vampire's are a survivor faction with nightkills that win with town
Angel is a reverse survivor that somehow needs to make others survive.
This is also why the Mafia/Vampires whomever need to claim. We do not want to lynch Mafia here, like what happened yesterday. Its anti-wincon.
3 Vampires? How do you know this?In post 5118, MathBlade wrote:
Vampires for one don’t shoot peopleIn post 5115, Vecna wrote:
Its not multibalIn post 5108, Gamma Emerald wrote:
What fucks me up wrt to multiball is mastina said this game was built using Alisae modding style as a reference right? Well Alisae hates multiball with a fiery passion, so that just fucks me up. So honestly, I have no real expectations for any sort of sense from this setup anymore.In post 5052, Vecna wrote:I dont even know how it works number-wise with a scum faction, a vampire, an angel and wolves.
I guess even oath -could- be a wolf or whatever, but I dont see how that would work.
Its everyone vs the wolves, with survivor factions.
Mafia is a survivor faction with nightkills and a PT that can win with town
Vampire's are a survivor faction with nightkills that win with town
Angel is a reverse survivor that somehow needs to make others survive.
This is also why the Mafia/Vampires whomever need to claim. We do not want to lynch Mafia here, like what happened yesterday. Its anti-wincon.
Two Lady Angel flipped mafia traitor who inherits a shot
Three Vampires such as myself haven’t killed and can’t kill
Why are you pushing mass claim on such bad spec?
Oh yeah that’s right you’re scum.
VOTE: Vecna
I'm okay with this.In post 5140, MathBlade wrote:
Vecna is scum trying to find all the humans to kill.In post 5134, Vecna wrote:Im not worried. I want them to claim so we do not hit them with a lynch or with a nightkill. And I want to sort your freaking slot.The proper way to do this is have someone go around and claim protective and if we don’t have any we can’t mass claim
Remember the wincon at least one human left alive
If there are 4 wolves then if only three humans left we lose
If there are 4 and a traitor then only four humans left we lose
Can we not game throw and just Lynch the scum wanting mass claim?
K thx bubye
YOU HAVE A MINION?! Unfair. Wait... is it me? Or is there another. You seemed to think there were 3 Vampires.In post 5146, MathBlade wrote:
Oh honey I have to have my food.In post 5143, Vecna wrote:
You should probably go read that vampire role pm of Oath that youre also claiming to have. Vampires dont give a fuck if humans live. Neither do Mafia.In post 5140, MathBlade wrote:
Vecna is scum trying to find all the humans to kill. The proper way to do this is have someone go around and claim protective and if we don’t have any we can’t mass claimIn post 5134, Vecna wrote:Im not worried. I want them to claim so we do not hit them with a lynch or with a nightkill. And I want to sort your freaking slot.
Remember the wincon at least one human left alive
If there are 4 wolves then if only three humans left we lose
If there are 4 and a traitor then only four humans left we lose
Can we not game throw and just Lynch the scum wanting mass claim?
K thx bubye
More wolf slipperies.
I require a human and a Vampire alive. I have to feed my minion.
WHOA IT IS ME.In post 5153, MathBlade wrote:
That’s Oath’sIn post 5151, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Um no it just says a vampire needs to live, not a vampire and a humanIn post 5146, MathBlade wrote:I require a human and a Vampire alive. I have to feed my minion.
Mine is I have to bring a human to end game to feed Oath so we can suck on his juicy corpse and then have a nation of vampires.
But why do you have to feed me when I can feed myself?- glowball
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I am going to back off the mass claim idea though
REPEAT - NO MASS CLAIM
Considering that it seems as though even within factions we have different win cons. So although some of us can win together, it seems not all of us may have that motivation.
I am leaning towards believing MathBlade, but I don't know if that's just because I don't like being the lone Vampire and having a buddy is comforting. I need to re-read.
IS ANYONE FEELING LETHARGIC???- glowball
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Can you quote these confirmations please?In post 5180, Vecna wrote:
Im really interested in hearing how youre still on about this. 2 Pr's have human villager confirming results on me.In post 5176, MathBlade wrote:Now please Oath.
Serve your daddy and we lynch Vecna.
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It's not easily distinguishable though.In post 5185, Vecna wrote:
Hebichan claimed a PT cop and stated I do not have a PTIn post 5183, glowball wrote:
Can you quote these confirmations please?In post 5180, Vecna wrote:
Im really interested in hearing how youre still on about this. 2 Pr's have human villager confirming results on me.In post 5176, MathBlade wrote:Now please Oath.
Serve your daddy and we lynch Vecna.
His unprompted VT claim makes him scum.
zMuffin claimed to use the seer ability on me N1, and stated I am a human
Sadly for me, one of the two is likely scum. Sadly for all of you, if that is indeed the case, that means you actually need to use your common sense to be able to divine my easily distinguishable town playstyle.
It is very possible that you are a non PR anti-town role that doesn't have PR access. However, if I believe Muffin then I would have to agree that you aren't the best lynch for the day being a human even if you aren't town aligned specifically.
MathBlade- please clarify. Did you know that this slot was your partner?- glowball
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What don't you like about the conversation?In post 5193, Ankamius wrote:This conversation isn't happening, right?- glowball
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Math and Ank might be wolf.
I just re-read Math's ISO and I agree with Vecna and Gamma that the claim itself with that wincon is essentially shitty.
Math would have to carry 2 people AND HIMSELF? to end game.
Plus throughout the game you've attempted to remove my slot- now you're saying you were painting me as scum so that I wouldn't be a target for a night kill but now I definitely am if you aren't a wolf. It would make no sense for you to remove my revive AND claim Vampire. It basically ensures that we won't win. Because we're gonna get picked off as PRs against the wolves. Especially considering that I'm confirmed Vampire now and Gamma (who is pretty much confhuman) can attest to what my RolePM states.
You as a Vampire would have had to played the entire game with this strategy in mind as you targeted Keychain at one point and backed off. I just don't buy that you'd risk your entire game just to confirm me to 1 other person and out yourself. Especially when I said I'd be willing to die to confirm the existence of Vampires and hope that no other Vampires claim until necessary.
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Now I'm just thinking it's because i targeted them twice accidentallyIn post 5525, Vecna wrote:
Maybe ask the mod about it. I noticed some minor inconsistencies as well in VT's suddenly being named differently, maybe it was unintendedIn post 5523, glowball wrote:Aronis : Did not receive any abilities
Hebi : was unsuccessful
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Has hebi claimed that ability or are you just guessingIn post 5530, Ankamius wrote:It sounds to me like you hit a passive on hebi n2 and got blocked n3- glowball
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Human isn't listed as an alignment but honestly this whole thing rubs me the wrong wayIn post 5548, Ankamius wrote:Look at all the flips again
Human is listed as an alignment and doesn't show up anywhere else in the PMs we have
It also doesn't show up in the mafia flip and the angel flip specifically says they are part of the green faction but aren't human
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Im sayimg that youll do yourself a disservice not acknowledging that mafiate could very well be human. Nothing indicates that they aren't. You're using the absence of a thing to prove the status of another and obviously this game is odd. Im just saying its not 100% guaranteed that mafiate cant be human.- glowball
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No. Thats all wrong. Vampires are not human.
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To be fair I think either way we got this.In post 5693, Ankamius wrote:just screwing around until we decide to lynch someone random- glowball
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@Math did you kill Vecna?
The kill flavor up to this point has been consistent. I'm not sure why all of a sudden it's DEVOURED unless another player performed the kill? Was Titus doing all the killing? Vampires could probably devour someone too which is why I'm asking you Math.
I don't want a muffin lynch this early no matter how confident I am in Nos. (btw if Nos is a wolf I have a personal issue flavor-wise with them being able to shoot a gun IT MAKES NO SENSE)
Obviously PoE leaves scum in zMuffin, Ankamius, and Toranga with Ankamius being the most town in that group - I drained Ank and received NO ABILITIES just to ease my heart <3
First of all, HER..In post 5857, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Exactly. I wanted to make sure Mathblade was going to tell the truth before saying anything.In post 5855, MathBlade wrote:There was one person.
Hood can’t operate with one person.
Gamma was sucked out of the hood.
If I didn't have direct confirmation glowball is what he says he is I'd be on his ass right now.
Second, but you DO have direct confirmation of my role so what is even the point of throwing shade my way? You know I am what I say I am. You got my role pm. There isn't any reason to muddied the waters. It does zero to help at this point.- glowball
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Okay, but why are you shooting Math and not Toranga FIRST. You said Math dies tonight. If we lynch zMuffin today - you're vigging Math tonight, correct? Why Math over Toranga? When you initially said you'd go after Toranga?In post 5883, Nosferatu wrote:because if there's 4 scum the 4th is math
NAH... I'm gonna stay here with this shit and some of that shit and more of whatever shit I wantIn post 5884, Nosferatu wrote:hurr durr the game of mafia is speculative
get the fuck out of here with that shit
Idunno if I believe that given that some people are scared to admit to kills especially when they're already considered the scummiest in the game.In post 5885, Nosferatu wrote:like thats anywhere on the tier of "whats devour"
the fuck? If it were a town ability, it would have been claimed by now
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Okay so you agree that Math is a Vampire?In post 5955, Nosferatu wrote:I realise that
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Wolves will obviously have to take me out since I've been confirmed to Gamma and Math so my only hope is that we kill them all before they kill me. Math used up my revive.
They take a shot at me tonight, Nos vigs Math, and that's a loss for me. Not to mention if Math is a Vampire the human town is lined up to lose as well.
Nos has already said their mafia, and obviously people within certain alignments have different wincons so I have no guarantee that there are parts of Nos' wincon that haven't been exposed even if he's working with the town in mind mostly.
I want Muffin gone and Toranga shot. If that doesn't happen you're basically ruining my shot at winning when I sacrificed early on by exposing myself with the hopes that you all would work with me for the mutual win.
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How is it strange? Why are we shooting anything other than wolves? Why is Nos so happy giving you a win even if you ARE a wolf? That's strange. That's something you haven't had an issue with.
Either way, it doesn't matter how strange the post is, I HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED AS WHAT I SAY I AM. So the shade is pointless. - glowball
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