Mod just confirmed to me that scum (well anyone) can use a single power twice.
Also confirmed it can be used to double day-powers.
Might not be a great idea to give everyone powers.
Actually if they have double-vote then that would be a win tomorrow even with Math dead I think? 5 alive, 3 to lynch, they would technically have 3 votes. I guess it'd turn into fastest finger on the following days, which would be pretty funny tbh
In post 12249, Sando wrote:Actually if they have double-vote then that would be a win tomorrow even with Math dead I think? 5 alive, 3 to lynch, they would technically have 3 votes. I guess it'd turn into fastest finger on the following days, which would be pretty funny tbh
Yep, they could get a third vote.
Let's get Drixx to give no-one powers and work to elect Kokichi leader?
Creature votes Gamma
Gamma Emerald votes Nos
Nosferatu votes Sando
Sando votes the worst
the worst votes me
Then Drixx or Kokichi leader vote one of them based on some criteria we propose?
I think single vote with math confirmed scum leaves us open to manipulation. I'd guess scum can only influence voting by 1-2, rather than just assigning it, but whether it has to follow their own vote?
In post 12269, Sando wrote:Math I'm putting QL plan together now since you're going to bomb someone and we should force the issue, save me the trouble?
Notes:
Don't vote tomorrow and watch out for Mind Control, consider Mind Control when you're looking at lynches/mylo/lylo etc.
Scum probably has powers from N2, N4 and N6 (if there's something about odds and evens I'm flipping the table)
In post 12276, MathBlade wrote:Oh I did submit if I had one. Just need the mod online if I did.
I just figured I would try to make the game more fun for everyone.
Not getting to lynch you is drastically less fun though
4-1 Mylo though.
Only reason to no-lynch is if we wanna mess around with something like town!confing someone. We could declare Creature town, have Drixx submit only Creature, and he picks up something like BP (or freezing if that stops NKs, someone check that). Scum can either kill a mislynch target or go kill-less.
Yeah Freezing stops the kill, but take into account negate.
I think if both people freeze then that
should
work.
So in a 4-1, you lynch one, give Drixx chance to submit a 2 person list that you decide. Both people target that person with freezing.
If they both survive into the next day they have to instantly vote that person, since the person has Mind Control most likely. Yeah it's not pretty but gives you a shot at 2 lynches instead of 1.
So this is bullshit from duckling. I'd established that we were in Mylo and that 2 scum were alive, and duckling said he was well aware of that. Math blowing someone up didn't change it. Can't see why a duckling would bullshit on this, it's 3 to lynch, he knows I'm not going to do it.
In post 12282, Sando wrote:Most likely power setup on last scum:
Power-negation N2
Echo N4
Mind Control N6
Double Petrification almost guarantees Echo I think, and SS hasn't appeared N2 or N6.
This is the most likely setup on the last scum. My gut says it isn't Creature. I think Gamma is the last scum, but duckling insists on being as scummy as he can.
Poke holes in this plan please:
1) Get Drixx to submit Sando+Creature as the hero team.
2) Lynch Gamma, assuming he's town (since scum wins us the game instantly)
3) Sando+Creature both grab freezing and freeze duckling
4) Theoretically duckling can't do anything overnight and we lynch him tomorrow.
Scum got powers N2, N4, and N6, unless there's another ability we don't know about. Math petrified last night and 2nd scum either petrified or echo'd that petrify. Petrify wasn't available any of those nights, so we can assume the last scum echo'd. That was only available in those nights on N4. Superstrength would also win the game for the scum overnight but it was also only available on N4.
So it's a tenuous theory, but it should hold.
Doesn't have to be Sando+Creature as the townblock, but basically if we get that townblock right I
Dude you've gone out of your way to not actually contribute here. And you literally just tried to convince us that we're not in Mylo and can safely mislynch...
You claimed not to understand the mechanics yesterday, yet today you're all over why the petrified people are conf!town, until Math blows up and suddenly you've forgotten that it's Mylo...
In post 12335, Sando wrote:So this is bullshit from duckling. I'd established that we were in Mylo and that 2 scum were alive, and duckling said he was well aware of that. Math blowing someone up didn't change it. Can't see why a duckling would bullshit on this, it's 3 to lynch, he knows I'm not going to do it.
In post 12342, the worst wrote:and you're still refusing to explain why you scumsided this into 6p Mylo while helping to lynch Tora who was extremely obviously town (yet you arrogantly deathtunneled, preferring obvscum Math over Tora)
Math had leader protection...
Like...what the actual fuck duckling, at least make sense?
In post 12336, Sando wrote:1) Get Drixx to submit Sando+Creature as the hero team.
2) Lynch Gamma, assuming he's town (since scum wins us the game instantly)
3) Sando+Creature both grab freezing and freeze duckling
4) Theoretically duckling can't do anything overnight and we lynch him tomorrow.
Scum got powers N2, N4, and N6, unless there's another ability we don't know about. Math petrified last night and 2nd scum either petrified or echo'd that petrify. Petrify wasn't available any of those nights, so we can assume the last scum echo'd. That was only available in those nights on N4. Superstrength would also win the game for the scum overnight but it was also only available on N4.
In post 12357, Creature wrote:I can understand the worst thinking we could mislynch. Drixx and Kokichi's names being listed on the votecount confuses me out.
It's not out of the realms, and to be fair I hadn't considered the bomb until Math posted so I was assuming a tomorrow for a while too.
But Ducklings was posted after the Math bomb
Duckling had stated that he was well aware it was Mylo before the bomb
The Mod said it was Mylo in the bomb post
In post 12359, the worst wrote:also I'm kinda shook my reads entering today were so so wrong
apologies if this is the first time I've really grossly misread you Creature
I mean you agreed with Titus and nakedly sheeped her onto my wagon D2...
In post 12366, the worst wrote:like if you are deadset convinced and genuinely tunnelled that I'm the last scum why are you pulling some fps junk to pocket creature?
Because why not? It's literally just lynching+.
No-plan - lynch today, win or lose based on that lynch
Sando-plan - lynch today, same chance of winning today, maybe we get another shot tomorrow.
It's literally no cost with potentially double the upside.
In post 12373, the worst wrote:sure that's fine but there's literally no world where you can be in the town block. would super strength just bypass anyway?
I've stated why it's unlikely last scum has superstrength. You're literally trying to take a lynch away from town, you're acting about as scummy as possible here.
Creature is signing up to the townblock and who goes into it, your input has nothing to do with this.
In post 12379, the worst wrote:interesting. so scumfuck X had to pick echo n4. they can't have super strength I guess?
Rofl, literally in the plan you called "Stupid" I pointed out why scum have echo not SS:
In post 12336, Sando wrote:Poke holes in this plan please:
1) Get Drixx to submit Sando+Creature as the hero team.
2) Lynch Gamma, assuming he's town (since scum wins us the game instantly)
3) Sando+Creature both grab freezing and freeze duckling
4) Theoretically duckling can't do anything overnight and we lynch him tomorrow.
Scum got powers N2, N4, and N6, unless there's another ability we don't know about. Math petrified last night and 2nd scum either petrified or echo'd that petrify.
Petrify wasn't available any of those nights, so we can assume the last scum echo'd. That was only available in those nights on N4. Superstrength would also win the game for the scum overnight but it was also only available on N4.
In post 11306, Sando wrote:Tora should not bomb Nancy, it's a waste, bomb someone else and the townflip confscums Nancy.
???
It was while I thought killing Aus would stop her leader vote and before Gamma claimed the Nero vote.
At the time we thought it was Math-scum with Nancy/Tora as scum. Tora obviously wouldn't bomb his buddy Nancy if they were both scum, and Tora being dead would 100% confirm Nancy scum anyway. So why waste the bomb? Get Tora to bomb elsewhere.
In post 11306, Sando wrote:Tora should not bomb Nancy, it's a waste, bomb someone else and the townflip confscums Nancy.
???
It was while I thought killing Aus would stop her leader vote and before Gamma claimed the Nero vote.
At the time we thought it was Math-scum with Nancy/Tora as scum. Tora obviously wouldn't bomb his buddy Nancy if they were both scum, and Tora being dead would 100% confirm Nancy scum anyway. So why waste the bomb? Get Tora to bomb elsewhere.
Here's me and you actually talking about pestering the mod about petrification/death and leader-voting.
Post Math I was ready to see the light and go for Gamma, but you're literally arguing against a plan that has ZERO cost to town and potentially doubles odds of winning.
In post 12409, the worst wrote:can you explain it knowing Tora is town or
like jn at work and have little effort rediving
every time you throw shade at me for trying to gamesolve in MyLo just makes me more confident you're scum
So when I was trying to explain it yesterday I was scum, not explaining it today (I have) is scummy? Righto.
Tora and Sakura are townconf and have specifically said they voted for Nero.
Math cannot get more than 2 votes from scum via explained methods
The only way Math got it via conventional methods is if 2 of Aus+Tora+Sakura fucked up. Aus sure might have forgotten, but Tora/Sakura would have to fuck up.
Even then, that requires Gamma to be scum as well.
Ergo, pretty damn safe bet Math got leader through a scum ability.
In post 12412, the worst wrote:based on Drixx's reads who would he be most likely to send/not send on a team?
Whoever we tell him to...
I doubt scum expected a plan like mine (ya know, the one you labelled stupid), which if we don't adopt means that tonight isn't happening, one way or the other. Scum very likely did not expect to have to go through tonight, or if they did they have something like Duplication or Mind Control to instantly win tomorrow.
In post 12416, the worst wrote:there's a lot of variables and I'm still deciding whether I like your plan at all. but like at the core of it it requires you and Creature to both be town and I don't trust you're town soooo.......
In post 12366, the worst wrote:like if you are deadset convinced and genuinely tunnelled that I'm the last scum why are you pulling some fps junk to pocket creature?
Because why not? It's literally just lynching+.
No-plan - lynch today, win or lose based on that lynch
Sando-plan - lynch today, same chance of winning today, maybe we get another shot tomorrow.
It's literally no cost with potentially double the upside.
In post 12436, the worst wrote:if you flip green I think Gamma and Creature and I should crossroleblock and they should powerlynch me tomorrow. what do you think of that?
So you checked with the mod that 3 person cross-block works?
Ok so:
the worst - Lynched scum D1, lynched town D2, did not scum lynch D3, lynched town D4, did not town lynch D5, lynched town D6
Sando - Lynched scum D1, did not lynch town D2, lynched scum D3, did not lynch town D4, did not lynch town D5, lynched town D6
Creature - Lynched scum D1 (pre replace), did not lynch town D2, did not lynch scum D3, did not lynch town D4, lynched town D5, did not lynch town D6
Gamma - Did not lynch scum D1, lynched town D2, lynched scum D3, did not lynch town D4, did not lynch town D5, did not lynch town D6
Lynches
Scum(2)
Town(4)
the worst
1
3
Sando
2
1
Creature
1
1
Gamma
1
1
Of note:
Titus was the counter-lynch to 129 on D1
Sando was the counter-lynch to Mylo on D2 (led by FA, failed primarily due to time)
Sando was the counter-lynch to Titus on D3 (led by Titus, the worst put Sando to L-3 nakedly)
The worst has literally only naked voted, he's NEVER given coherent reasoning for his votes before today. Even yesterday his defence of Tora wasn't coherent, just flat out statement of town-Tora and refusal to consider mechanics.
The worst says Sando is town D2 and says Titus is town in a roundabout way (says Sando is TvTing, Sando was antagonising Titus)
The worst completely 180s and naked votes Sando D3 to put him to L-3 (Titus is the CW)
The worst suggests the bomb-everything plan, which he works up with Math - this was D4, when Mathblade was leader...
Creature was early on the 129 wagon (this was before Creature replaced in)
Creature very briefly was on Sando before getting onto the Mylo wagon, before coming back to Sando, before trying to hammer Mylo
Creature basically lurked all D3, don't think he ever voted
Creature basically flops around D4 between Hebichan and the worst, until finally getting the hebichan lynch on D5
Gamma basically naked voted Titus, although followed with a sheep of Sando
Both Gamma and the worst claimed to not vote for leader N1, which was when Titus won the leader vote
Gamma basically tunnelled Titus D2, spent time wanting Sando lynched, and fell onto Mylo once time was up
Gamma put the Sando wagon to L-2 on D3
Gamma went from tunnelling Titus D2 to scumreading Sando over Titus (and them never being partners) D3, and actively defended Titus in the Sando v Titus dustup 6205 and 6212 before begrudgingly voting Titus
Gamma pushed/voted Toog most of D4 but unvoted to sort things out
Spoiler: Just some fun the worst progression on Creature
In post 12084, the worst wrote:is Math not howling right now? I am so confused what you're all seeing
Creature is also probscum and desperately needs to eat rope before endgame
In post 12320, the worst wrote:also 12317 showed me literally nothing ftr
scumfuck x and mathblade could have easily done the double stoner thing with either 2x petrification 2x power echo or one of each which they both could have conceivably had
the 2x pet thing kinda loosely waves at being an attempted frame (an actual attempted frame >:/) on nero who is the only unflipped player on any team
VOTE: Creature better votepark
In post 12413, the worst wrote:tbh not sure if Creature is fitting the scum narrative anymore. he hasn't been as engaged as usual but I don't really see how anything he's done benefits a scum agenda :s