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Post Post #725  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:25 pm

Not even remotely caught up (I'm at like post 52) but VOTE: Keyser Söze until I'm done because like dayum

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Post Post #726  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:48 pm

hmmmm
UNVOTE:

waiting for Nauci to catch up and nsg to descend from the heavens once more

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Post Post #727  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 6:32 pm

I think Ausuka should keep posting.

UNVOTE:

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Post Post #728  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 6:36 pm

In post 725, Nauci wrote:Not even remotely caught up (I'm at like post 52) but VOTE: Keyser Söze until I'm done because like dayum

Nauci? Apart from Kop, Irrelephant and TW I thought you understood my game the most...? :(

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Post Post #729  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 6:43 pm

In post 715, Ausuka wrote:Keyser just likes sheeping confident people I guess. Still think he's town.

My bad, I honestly just wanted the ammunition from your flip to gain clarity with my scum read of Toranaga (if that makes sense). I know this sounds anti-town, but it made sense in my head when I voted you.

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Post Post #730  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:09 pm

In post 726, the worst wrote:waiting for Nauci to catch up and nsg to descend from the heavens once more

you mean to wash up on shore again? (the joke is that i'm washed up)

anyways, hello. i'm somewhat disappointed in myself for not voting scum, but it's alright. updated reads (mostly from memory) - i think the ducky is town because i think scum ducky would go for more distancing from volxen, which i don't remember seeing. i think maybe i townread ausuka too quickly, though i'm not sure (again, entirely from memory).

um, i think that's it for what i wanted to say, at least before i read anything.
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Post Post #731  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:41 pm

Quack Quack tora QUACK quack quack quality Ausuka QuAcK NSG!

Quack translator Quack Worst Quackity?

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Post Post #732  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:45 pm

interesting
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Post Post #733  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:46 pm

In post 731, Eragon wrote:Quack Quack tora QUACK quack quack quality Ausuka QuAcK NSG!

Quack translator Quack Worst Quackity?


wanted the duck translator here, but I am basically saying ima ISO Tora and Ausuka, then if I have time NSG.

IS translator worst here?

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Post Post #734  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:46 pm

oh, uh

i think dunnstral is scum again (again? still? honestly cannot remember what conclusion i came to yesterday)
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Post Post #735  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:47 pm

@keyser soze, what's your game experience with huntress like?
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Post Post #736  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 7:57 pm

I got roped into a concert for the rest of the day sowwy!

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Post Post #737  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:21 pm

Imma stop being lazy and go do a proper read of this game

was out having beers and oysters so nvm if my reads are all shit

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Post Post #738  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:23 pm

In post 14, volxen wrote:Hello all.

VOTE: GameNBurger

Because I like both games and burgers.


I have to say this is the first time I see someone being scummy while making a RVS vote lol

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Post Post #739  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:24 pm

In post 731, Eragon wrote:Quack Quack tora QUACK quack quack quality Ausuka QuAcK NSG!

Quack translator Quack Worst Quackity?

I'm town, so is Tora AND also most likely Ausuka & hOpEfUlLy NSG!

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Post Post #740  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:25 pm

Nsg nsg nsg what did you think of Ausuka's vca and interactions with volxen? but also her posting?

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Post Post #741  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:25 pm

also I wonder how much this vote actually looks good for the worst? not that he needs it but I wonder how often this is going to be phrased so poorly in RVS while simultaneously voting for a scum partner.

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Post Post #742  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:26 pm

In post 739, the worst wrote:
In post 731, Eragon wrote:Quack Quack tora QUACK quack quack quality Ausuka QuAcK NSG!

Quack translator Quack Worst Quackity?

I'm town, so is Tora AND also most likely Ausuka & hOpEfUlLy NSG!

I know you were translating from quackspeak but... do you townread anything ausuka did this game? I'm having a hard time ever getting out of this read if it's a tunnel so I'm gonna need a ton of help if you're leaning any other way.

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Post Post #743  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:31 pm

In post 16, Sesq wrote:
In post 13, Keyser Söze wrote:Anyone played this setup before?

I.e what’s the best way to play it... does hypoclaiming help town or scum?

And while we’re all saying hello, what are your opinions on how to deal with lurkers.


please Please townread me


sesq is very likely town

there's something very clear about the way ausuka is interacting with keyser soze that makes them ~never scum partners (she is pushing everyone pushing her except for keyser, who she is townreading and trying to convince he shouldn't townread me in a way that's organic enough to at least not be w/w). I find it amusing that sesq, who is also POE'd down or at least was until she got replaced, is also spewing herself never scum partners with keyser here. considering the depth and understanding sesq showed in this game, I don't think this is ever some smart attempt at creating distancing. I also think it's very likely a town post, because scum is generally more self aware than to ask to be townread on p1 without doing anything.

"but tora you idiot, scum can do that too!" well yes, other scum in other spots, or smarter scum in this spot, but not sesq. the way sesq played this game makes them never ever above level 0 regardless of rand so I'm taking everything sesq does and says as face up as possible. that was a town post.

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Post Post #744  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:34 pm

In post 22, GameNBurger wrote:Also nobody dare TR me for that I did a bunch of shitty math only to come to the conclusion that its business as usual as far as claiming goes
in my last game a bunch of people town read me simply for effort and It blew my fucking minds as to why
I put up with it because I was town and people were having a hard time reading me but I'd like to get it out there that effort is not a one to one correlation with scuminess
a lack of effort is a good indicator of scum but a presence of effort does not indicate town

Anyways let that be a lesson to never do gametheory math late at night because youre bound to make idioitic mistakes, theres still a not great part of the stupidly simple model i used that doesn't account for the fact that T contains M in it, I should have broken it into P=t+M for more generalized use to make the death equation a bit easier to see the relationships


aaaaaaand gamenburger is already never scum because he is lecturing no one in particular on how townreading him for effort is wrong, before anyone said anything.

also I find his watcher claiming content something that doesn't even go through scum head in the first place... it's one thing to say a bunch of LAMIST-y stuff just to get townread. this man is going depths to understand how to best play the set up.

so yeah that's yet another evidence that the worst is pretty much always town here.

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Post Post #745  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:35 pm

In post 25, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 16, Sesq wrote:
In post 13, Keyser Söze wrote:Anyone played this setup before?

I.e what’s the best way to play it... does hypoclaiming help town or scum?

And while we’re all saying hello, what are your opinions on how to deal with lurkers.


please Please townread me

This was a page one question intended to be answered before we enter serious/non-RVS gameplay.

You shouldn’t see it as an attempt to look ‘townie’: it’s as non-alignment indicative as say a player asking if there is scum day chat - why are you being lazy/shortsighted?


lmao

I think sesq was just asking you to townread her :P

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Post Post #746  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:43 pm

In post 740, the worst wrote:Nsg nsg nsg what did you think of Ausuka's vca and interactions with volxen? but also her posting?

from day one? don't really remember it much, honestly.
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Post Post #747  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:44 pm

In post 31, Keyser Söze wrote:Are you saying GNB is suspiciously being overly-conscious about being t/read for a townie?

so... I don't like NSG's posts before this response from keyser. she is seemingly worried about GNB's perspective when he doesn't want to get townread for effort, but in a post that's overrall towny and from a perspective that NSG has no reason to believe it comes from scum. her questioning GNB won't get to better parsing out the slot and feels like pointing out/pushing things that look incoherent instead of things that look scummy.

NSG is quite a cerebral player and I expect better, more interesting scumhunting from the get go.

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Post Post #748  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:45 pm

In post 747, Toranaga wrote:but in a post that's overrall towny and from a perspective that NSG has no reason to believe it comes from scum.

-shrug-

it sounds like we just disagree on whether or not that's actually towny. that's to say nothing of my current read on tw or even what my read on GNB was - just whether or not GNB's original posts were town indicative or not.
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Post Post #749  (ISO)  » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:47 pm

In post 36, northsidegal wrote:what? i thought i was pretty clear, although looking now i guess i was less verbose than i had thought. yes, his thought process doesn't make sense to me as a real one, which would naturally imply that it's something made up - hence my saying it "rings kind of fake".


I have a problem with this, NSG.

GNB just said that, in last game when he was town, everyone started just townreading him on effort and that made things harder for him in that game. so naturally he doesn't want the same thing to repeat itself and end up in a similar situation. why is that fake? and why would he fake it? he is already being pretty LAMIST-y without saying he doesn't want a townread, so adding this part and referring to a game in which the same thing probably did happen just doesn't read at all like something he is faking, and IDK why that's how you're reading into this.

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