NY 215: HMS Erebus - Game Over!

[Scioness Sajj]

i will get to this tomorrow

hopefully

[Lapsa]

this is my first non newbie game

quite convincing

[Akarin]

has not explained a single vote this game, this ends now

what an asinine vote

like the reasoning is self evident
it's a sheep

all of his votes are transparently policy or sheep

ok cool
still think it's not town

ok why

cause its not cause its not explained, which is literally why you voted.

so what is now the reason you think he's scum

He hasn't participated at all in discussion

It's like Gamma realized his vote on one of the people jumping on his wagon looked like a weirdly timed pressure vote and he had to turn it into a real read.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

ok actually...upon examining post 192 by gamma and looking further into gamma's iso, it makes sense and is up to snuff.
UNVOTE:
i don't think it is coming from a scum perspective, BUT i still do think scumhunting from rvs posts is dumb.

[Akarin]

I generally am a brickwall, but I'm trying to not be that way. I mean, dave posted how he can't read me because he can't tell whether my pushes are scummy or stupid.

People are usually as smart as they are. "Trying to be smarter" is not an endeavor I'd expect immediate results from. That town-gamma apparently succeeded is a feat that borders on the unbelievable and the observed phenomena could much easier be explained by him having informed POW.

wat?

It's unbelievable that a person aware of their weaknesses could improve on them, unless they are scum?

Like how does knowing who town is even relate to making less stupid pushes? Do we have some evidence that they're more accurate? Would you expect more accurate pushes from scum?

[Akarin]

I dunno, I’m inclined to think Scioness isn’t scum atm just because of how little resistance their wagon has right now.
Like it went from no one saying anything to everyone agreeing they aren’t doing anything and a good lynch.

what wagon?

"everyone" is all of me and two people, so your defense is a little weird

Well and tictac just said they think they are scum.
And everyone else hasn’t commented.

Scioness is right in that totally okay with lynching zone for me too. Not for any real reason other than absolutely no reason to think they're town. Is it that weird that most of the game thinks meh, likely enough to be scum that I'd be okay with it?

Like if Scioness is scum, are the partners going to come out with some big defense right now? Based on what?

[Akarin]

I'm not done with Lapsa, but we have a new winner for scummiest sheep.

VOTE: popopopopopopo

Why's this one the scummiest?

[Akarin]

@Scioness:

this akarin - tictac interaction is something

what is the something
i got the impression that you wanted to make it look like there was a something when really there was not a something

I want to know this too

[Saudade]

honestly i havent read this game at all

maybe i will put some effort in day 1 but its not likely

so either deal with it or lynch me

#nocap

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think he was talking about this Hugo not about you
funny i thought the exact same thing

[Saudade]

ok so why does everyone think mala is scum?? about to do an iso on them now but 271 gives me town vibes

shes not they are scum or bad or both

[Nosferatu]

Like if Scioness is scum, are the partners going to come out with some big defense right now? Based on what?

they would probably say some shit like "wait why are we lynching scioness, I didn't see any reasoning its really sudden"

oh wait

[davesaz]

2nd off all, lapsa is not scum
atall

Is there any reasoning behind this you'd like to share with us?

[Akarin]

My reasoning on Davesaz:

Really thought I was going to get more flak from someone over that naked vote by the way.

post 111 kind of sets up a Lapsa read, gets some agreement from Io, then votes in post 136 based on another kind of minor post, saying it "deserves a push."

Then basically doesn't look too hard for scum in anyone else and more and more solid on Lapsa based on... what exactly?

In post 226 he says he's "looking for thought process" in Saudade but doesn't seem to have put any effort in looking at Lapsa's thought process.

I have asserted that Lapsa is looking for excuses to sheep, and doing nothing proactive.

Like, sure, Lapsa is sheeping, but he's not sheeping every vote. And not much in the way of excuses either.

Lapsa is scum. Why don't you see that? An answer would be appreciated.

Not town == scum.
Show me town in Lapsa and I'll consider going somewhere else.

Not solving -> scum. It's really an easy thing, don't see why we don't just lynch it.

And suddenly he's absolutely certain.

Sometimes he talks like he's looking at why bad play might be scum motivated or town motivated like in post 222. (He does come around to a scumread on CT based on a secret scumtell rather than anything he can point to so he can sort of agree with it while letting other people do the pushing.)

But with Lapsa, Dave is convinced he's scum based on sheeping. It feels like a lot of these are him doing what I assume must be his usual playstyle, but he's throwing that attitude out when it comes to Lapsa for some reason. Lapsa is "easy" indeed and Davesaz really wants to push that hard for some reason.

It's like he has one default approach for talking about the game, and a different approach when it comes to the wagon he's pushing here.

You know who isn't solving the game? Dave.

[davesaz]

I'm not done with Lapsa, but we have a new winner for scummiest sheep.

VOTE: popopopopopopo

Why's this one the scummiest?

Is this a serious question?

[Akarin]

Dead serious

[davesaz]

512 is incorrect but good. I can give Akarin a mild town read off that.

Sheeping is not thie issue. Doing nothing to advance the game is the issue. The post I happened to be responding to was sheeping, so I referred to it. You got me for making a lazy post that ddidn't explain every reason for my vote. Good job.

The reason you thought my other posts were advancing the game was because they are advancing it. Feel free to ask any questions you might have about where I am on people.

[Saudade]

popopo does it so blatantly though that its unlikely to come from a scummie dummie guy

[Saudade]

can we just sheep me
im really good at this game

[Purrcocet]

2nd off all, lapsa is not scum
atall

Is there any reasoning behind this you'd like to share with us?

he reminds me of me
is that not a good one
ok he reminds me of nos and nos is my spirit animal whom'st i can read with almost one hundred purrcent certainty


uhhh
one line posters have harder time play scum bc they have less space to fit bullshit inside of
so they either tailor their play or dgaf and are just genuine

this is why lapsa and popo are probtown
and uh what can i say im bias bc i think u town read people for posting paragraphs and stuff


also the way lapsa pointed out akarin town was a town ping

pedit omg

[davesaz]

Gonna be honest here. Consistent one-liners are borderline shoot on sight for me because they give me very little traction to actually read from. Creature for example is someone I will never get used to. You say it gives scum less to hide the bullstuff in, but I disagree -- IMO it gives scum perfect cover because with one-liners they can get away with literally posting nothing at all, while still being townread for posting nothing.

[popopopopopopo]

sory mod i will read the game

[popopopopopopo]

vote:dave

i agree with akarin

[Nosferatu]

ok my lynch pool happens to be everyone being scumread by the town and I don't like it

[Nosferatu]

don't take this wrong but I know I'm good, but I also know that towns are not so ???

[davesaz]

Remind me who your lynch pool is, and I'll help you figure out what's wrong.