A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6

[Chickadee]

First!

[Chickadee]

I don't recall ever getting first post in a game, and RC MADE ME join this. So I had to shamelessly take that.

VOTE: innocent children
the name compels me.

[Chickadee]

RC is listed as a living player


VOTE: Chickadee

Hi (: serious vote

Indeed he is. He's not listed in the post above my first post though. Intriguing.

[Chickadee]

That's because Titus is down as RadiantCowbells in the signups thing


Can someone tell me if it's too early for me to scumread Titus

It's never too early to scum read titus

[Chickadee]

y'all slow the fuck doooown

Please. Oh my god. 6 pages is too much already.

I won't be able to post again for several hours when I get off work. If I come back to more than like 5 pages, just know I'm not reading a word of it. My scum buddies will catch me up.

<3

[Chickadee]

Can someone actually summarize why I'm scum?

I will send something to the first person to do so.

Sorry for getting a scum role chickadee!

I wish I had gotten a scum role. They're fun.

I was expecting a troll role when I submitted my picks, and hoh boy did RC not disappoint.

I am Ginngie, Hated Loyal Gladiator

.
Outside of lylo/mylo (which is purely by the numbers, per the role wording), I take one less vote to lynch.
I can gladiate anyone by claiming a guilty on them, but if they're not town-aligned, it'll fail.

I can maybe, MAYBE use this as a conditional cop, IF we can no-lynch after a gladiate (I need to ask RC about this), but if not, yeahhhhh...

The town mastina I know asks questions first, I don't liek this.

The town Mastina I know claims early and usually lies about it in some aspect.

Will read later.

VOTE: RC for starting a game a month later.

Yeah and we didn't even get to riot

Oh there were riots.

[Chickadee]

Can someone actually summarize why I'm scum?

I will send something to the first person to do so.

[Chickadee]

Can someone actually summarize why I'm scum?

I will send something to the first person to do so.

you aren't freaking out like you normally do as town.

That's an incredibly stupid reason, and you haven't played with me in quite a while.

chick and jjh are the best votes right now

Even after that gift I sent you?

i wont be talking to scumreads this game btw

Come on, let's go party.

chick has been lackluster and mastina affirmed my vote as a good one, so I have more faith that it's a good vote.

It's the beginning of a large game, which I historically don't do well in. I am usually lack-luster as town.

And Mastina always scum reads me.

Did you get my gift Ginggieee?

[Chickadee]

I like random for town. I liked his entrance, it stood out to me, and I'd give slight (very slight) town points to him for it (because of standing out, not just to me but in general). But really since then, I feel like random is scum hunting, and I like it.

[Chickadee]

No one should take mastina claim as conftown claim

we have reasons to be skeptical about what she claimed for

reasons we don't want to share at the moment

. but there are weird things about the claim.

I'm going to read this pages in detail after getting my tea

~Sora

i can probably look at playerlist but am to lazy so is this a FA hydra?

Yes, FA/Shiro and that post seems to be coming from a thought process.

Lol sorry, TOWN thought process.

Very curious why this is AI at all.

I’m not a fan of Chick’s posts but the sheer number of players currently sr her - without any apparent opposition makes me hesitant to vote there.



@Chickadee , what are these “gifts” that you keep offering to send to anyone who sr you? Can you please elaborate some more on that?

In a few hours when I get home, I can send you something if you liiiike.

P.edit Or fruit vendor?

But those tend to happen at night.

Have you sent any “gifts” to anyone other then Gingie?

Has Chick sent something to anyone else or is this just a joke?

I sent something to skygazer. And both of them are aware I sent it, according to my role PM.

I don’t know whether this is relevant or not but in Labrynth, scum!Chick spammed a lot.

She was a lot less confident in Heroes then she is on here and Labrynth.

Actually, she seems more confident in this game then in Labrynth, so eh.

Don't read me based on labyrinth. I replaced into that game and wasn't terribly terribly invested and also didn't read anything before the point of replacing in.

[Chickadee]

Vax, I'm thunking you rolled scum here.


Also pretty much everyone (save for a few) have played with me, and know my history of being an easy fucking lynch. Unless you guys are going to provide actual reasons, votes off me please.

[Chickadee]

To clarify about things I'm sending, I picked Gin before anything had even happened. I did it right after my first post. I picked her because it was someone I thought I could connect with.

I sent Stargazer something right after she serious-voted me.


And I just sent Innocent Children something, because they were curious.

[Chickadee]

So far, the only person to give any reason for voting me is Nero, and it's a shit reason.

My read on Vax was about something specific he said. I can't recall what it was now, but I remember reading it and being pinged.

Looking back I can't find what it was either. But I did find

I don't like mastina here, I'll wait until they prove themselves, but more than likely their fake claim time will expire and then we can push there.

@jjh, why nero?

Sounds like a plan for pushing Mastina regardless of actions later.

[Chickadee]

Interesting. Ginggie, can you confirm wether or not you got something?

[Chickadee]

and know my history of being an easy fucking lynch

but being lynchbait doesn't mean you can't roll scum.

Pork, its whats prodging today.

True, but you can't really look at how easily people piled on my wagon, with no explanations, and think "Yep this is the time Chick rolls scum"

Vax, I'm thunking you rolled scum here.


Also pretty much everyone (save for a few) have played with me, and know my history of being an easy fucking lynch. Unless you guys are going to provide actual reasons, votes off me please.

Chick, why is your RVS vote still on me? I should ask Lady Angel the same thing. Lol

Because I never bothered to take it off.

UNVOTE:

Why does it bother you? You were nowhere near lynch.

If you're asking specifically why I'm not voting tax instead, I'd like to interact with him a bit.

[Chickadee]

I can send things as often as I want to as many players as I want. But there’s another layer to it as well. So you may or may not like getting something from me.

[Chickadee]

Friendly Neighbor by day, Serial killer by night.

False on both accounts

[Chickadee]

Do you have a problem with me asking you this? I don’t see why? I haven’t asked you about Vax. I only asked you and LA about RVS votes.

No. I'm genuinely curious though why you're concerned about an RVS vote.

[Chickadee]

Does Invisibility always play like this? Its very active lurk and useless and scummy?

Thought Gamma's reaction to Whemes invis vote was very odd.

Yup

[Chickadee]

I remember you being pretty decent, but maybe things have changed.

I'll take the compliment where I can get it.

[Chickadee]

I just got home, there's 9 new pages.

[Chickadee]

Has anyone voted Vecna yet? Maybe he can't do anything until voted?

VOTE: Vecna

[Chickadee]

Also I have not read the last 18 pages, because it's 18 pages. I don't intend to read them. Sorry if I've missed something. But like....that's 18 pages. I have a night and weekend job.

[Chickadee]

Ok, nope

UNVOTE:

[Chickadee]

vecna could you be useful for 1 second

like vote anyone

I don't get the feeling they're trying to be unhelpful. Vecna is the kind of player that, could he do anything else, he would.

[Chickadee]

So chikade did you send multiple messages of same song to skygazer?

~Sora

Did sky gazer claim that? If so then essentially yes. But I cannot know for sure.

[Chickadee]

so like can someone explain to me what scum motivation id have for volunteering to be desperadod and then claiming i received five identical elton john videos

Can confirm this is me. Cannot confirm how many more identical Elton John videos you will receive.

[Chickadee]

@Chickaede why did you send multi videoes to someone who claimed ascetic. Is there a reason you must spread gifts?

~Sora

I sent it before she claimed that. I sent it immediately after she first voted me. Again, I cannot confirm how many of this video she will be sent. It may or may not keep happening.

I would not be surprised to find out that Gin and IC have also received multiple identical videos.


@IC I am curious what you claimed to have gained from the video I sent you. I think I have an idea....but if it's the thing I think, you're wrong.

[Chickadee]

I think Vecna is town. I feel like that post restriction once demonstrated enough is a good excuse for scum to lurk. But Vecna is present and keeps posting. Nothing solid but putting Vecna in my town pile for today.

[Chickadee]

I think Vecna is town. I feel like that post restriction once demonstrated enough is a good excuse for scum to lurk. But Vecna is present and keeps posting. Nothing solid but putting Vecna in my town pile for today.

wat

I like Vecna for town. Don't what me.

[Chickadee]

So no one else is thinking Vecna is trying to tell us something then? No one wants to look at him because the post restriction is annoying.

Whatever. Call my posts bad. nothing new.

People talk about "lurker scum" in every fucking game...now we have a slot that has every socially acceptable reason to lurk, and they don't.


idgaf anymore

[Chickadee]

Maybe he's voteless until something happens. Maybe he can only hammer. Maybe there's someone that can give him what he needs. There's a lot of reasons for someone not to vote. And it was pointed out earlier than he might only be able to say things from that wiki that was posted.

[Chickadee]

yeah. The whole Vecna discussion is kinda useless since he's not a lynch candidate or anything.

Still important to sort people.

[Chickadee]

there you finally had the guts to omgus.

that's a laughabel "recap"

jj is translating the fake post restriction so we can "get" it

This is all NAI. jjh is transcribing what isin the thread for all of us to read on our own. He's just recapping. If anything, I think it's kind of helpful.


@Nero, why are you against the Vecna side convo? You say it's useless, but it was a slot we literally had nothing on.

[Chickadee]

Um the text isn’t formatted all the way this time

There was one other time in his ISO where it wasn't. In that case it wasn't formatted at all. I was taking it to mean they forgot.



@Vecna, if you meant to format the last post the way it was, please post the next one in hot pink (#FF00FF)

[Chickadee]

tbf, I think sending coded messages via rainbow list is gonna be a bitch on his end and ours. Considering it's D1 I'm ok with letting it slide for now.

I do like that we're at least trying to get somewhere on a slot no one had anything on though.


@Vecna, I'm gonna try to send you something. Maybe that will help?

[Chickadee]

Have the players are scummy that's not my fault

Go back through your scum list and ISO them please. I'm curious what happens if you try to town hunt within your scum pool, because your scum pool is seemingly too big.

[Chickadee]

@Nero the same could be said for you trying to quell the Vecna stuff. It's a side conversation. I think everyone involved is also doing other things. I don't see any harm.

@jjh I'm invested in the Vecna side convo going on. I'm also curious to see where you're going with it.

[Chickadee]

I haven't looked at things enough to have one. I have some town reads. I'll be reliable come crunch time, don't you worry.

[Chickadee]

Prodging for now. Today was busy, tomorrow will be busy. Sunday will be busy. Sorry

@Porkens, I asked you a question. Please do the thing.

[Chickadee]

idk...how's this as a starting point? I'm a wee bit out of touch with the game.

4) Nicorobin
8) Skygazer
10) KuroiXHF
11) Invisibility
12) Porkens
13) Whemestar
15) Lady Angel
22) randomidget


Eliminating people from this list does not mean I town read them. It just means I wouldn't want to lynch them, or find it unlikely they would be the lynch, or just don't read them one way or the other (all in addition to town reads).

[Chickadee]

There was never a world where I lynch Vecna D1 this game anyway.

[Chickadee]

Eh. Ok.

VOTE: Maid Cafe

[Chickadee]

Mastina, I look forward to a game someday where you read me right.

[Chickadee]

The only valid defence of Vecna was "I think it's a real posting restriction" and I don't think anyone said that

I never thought it was fake. That's why I brought Vecna up in the first place.

A guilty has been declared!

Anyone know waht this means?

Chick, did you send me something?

I did!

The only valid defence of Vecna was "I think it's a real posting restriction" and I don't think anyone said that

I think it's a real posting restriction.

Also, why am I cleared?

BTW, I can post at night. I am alive, but not the same as everyone else.

Mastina supposedly has a loyal modifier, and you've been successfully gladiated.




VOTE: No Lynch

[Chickadee]

VOTE: Mastina

We need the flip to actually confirm the result.

[Chickadee]

That seems breakable to be able to do that every day..but ok

VOTE: Mastina
I volunteer for tomorrow, since you regret not gladiating me Mastina.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: Mastina
I volunteer for tomorrow, since you regret not gladiating me Mastina.

how can she gladiate you if she's dead?

THIS

game.

We no lynch.


And idgaf if you guys think it's a scum claim. When the gladiator works I won't hear anything from you guys.

Mastina, if you don't gladiator me tomorrow, I'm taking it as a scum claim from you. I claim to be one of your biggest scum reads, yet you didn't choose me today. You have a chance tomorrow to either clear me or condemn me. Take it and sort me once and for all, or stop pushing me.

[Chickadee]

Because we need mastina to flip to confirm the results. I have a hard time believing that Mastina's role is unlimited. That's just an immediate public day-cop result. Mastina herself said there are things she wouldn't reveal until later.

[Chickadee]

Well I'm p sure that Vecna will be the lynch today until unless he activates his IC. He was on earlier and I was disappointed that he didn't come in here.

I would like to hear some opinions on Ginngie.

idk, I'm a hot mess.

But if you guys are going to lynch me, you should at least test it and gladiate me. Then you can just call me stupid the rest of the game.

[Chickadee]

Btw no one is getting anything from me until Monday maybe Tuesday. Having a mini meet while as ummer is visiting me. But I’m vaguely following along.

[Chickadee]

Hey squad beeboy here. I haven't posted in this game in a long time.

I have tomorrow off work so I am going to power grind this game then, if I don't then lynch us.
I get off work late tonight so I can't really make any promises about tonight.

I can’t read this without quoting it. Please don’t use this color.

[Chickadee]

catching up, was waiting for the thread to be unlocked, and I have 4 pages to read now. About to get ready for work, but I might be around today.

[Chickadee]

Nero is poking too many things with a stick.

[Chickadee]

migraine. no chicka tonight. night.

[Chickadee]

I’m curious how many videos people have gotten from me

[Chickadee]

Nico why is red?

[Chickadee]

Because Chickadee doesn't have anything to say at the moment. But rest assured, she's checking it diligently and staying caught up. Just more invested in other things at the moment.

[Chickadee]

If you wanted to talk to me though, you could have just said so Firebb

[Chickadee]

It's an interesting wagon for sure. I'm waiting to see what happens with it. I don't have Titus sorted one way or the other yet. I find it difficult to read them generally.

[Chickadee]

Why on earth are people saying Vecna scum? Vecna is obvtown.

[Chickadee]

Why on earth are people saying Vecna scum? Vecna is obvtown.

How

You seemed to think he was town during the fake post restriction

I did. I thought he was town yesterday. I was the first to bring it up actually, and it was my post bringing it up that prompted all the Vecna talk yesterday.

I don't think the post restriction was fake. I believe what Vecna claimed beginning D2. I don't care to push him on it. It's outlandish enough that I would put it in the "you cant make this shit up" category. And I like the way he came forward about knowing someone visited him in the night, and can confirm his flavor. I mean the flavor was obvious, but I like how all of it unfolded regardless. I also really like his contributions now that he's been able to talk.

So talk to me a bit about your view of Vecna.

[Chickadee]

sorry guys, I'm working a 9 hour shift today and am gonna feel pretty dead when I get home. I'll try to be around a bit tonight

@Vecna - I know, but you've seemed very genuine, and I've liked your posting aside from the claim. There's no world I lynch you the game without a hard guilty.

[Chickadee]

So why aren't we lynching Chickadee today, or at least gladiating her?

If I

am

the lynch today and Mastina doesn't gladiate me, lynch her when I flip town. Thanks.

[Chickadee]

either die tonight or get power lynched d3.

If you had the authority to push a power lynch through, the game wouldn't be stalled right now.



I agree about the Mastina thing, but for different reasons. I feel like the game has stalled because people are waiting on Mastina to use her thing. No one feels like they have to do anything, because she could just come in and undo it all.

@Mastina, I really do hope you feel better, but for your own sake, as well as for the game, please replace out. Take the time you need to get better, and be gentle with yourself.

[Chickadee]

i could see nico scum

jk never mind wrong nico town

What changed your mind in 2 minutes?

[Chickadee]

Porkens, I know you can do more than this.

[Chickadee]

the composition of the chickadee wagon is kinda eh

I feel liek I'm the leading wagon because it was the easy thing to line up from yesterday. I don't know who scum on my wagon is though. I just hope we survive the Oregon Trail.

[Chickadee]

@chickadee how do you not know who is scummy on your wagon - you have 5 people on it. I would think there's enough to wagon analyze

because I've been too busy to sit down and analyze it.

I work 9 hour days 7 days a week where I'm on my feet all the damn time. I'm just constantly exhausted. I'm here because RC asked me to play. And I am enjoying the game. I'd like to be in it a bit more than I am, but I'm doing my best atm.

But you're more than welcome to analyze it if you want.

[Chickadee]

@Mastina - if you really can't play and aren't caught up, please replace out. You're a claimed spot with a day ability, and it's kind of holding the game hostage.

[Chickadee]

Why are we trying to lynch Mastina instead of just waiting for her to replace out or otherwise get force replaced?

She won't replace out, and she won't be force replaced because she keeps prodging.

and it's kind of holding the game hostage.

I mean its really not though.

It kind of is if we're keeping her around to use her ability day after day until we flip her for the results.

How many votes is Mastina at?

[Chickadee]

It does get us a confirmed townie if she really is town though.

[Chickadee]

Yea yea. I get it. I just want Mastina here, or to replace so that can actually happen.

[Chickadee]

Because Mastina is not going to be here or replace. So I'm fine considering alternatives.

[Chickadee]

We're not lynching her at all because there's no way for the ability to be scum.

Loyal is not a modifier that any sane scum player will ever claim. Barring like, a rolecop guilty (or any other form of guilty I guess but this is mechanical) I'm not lynching there

The loyal part is also unconfirmed and potentially made up

There's actually a lot of good scum motivation for scum to lie about a loyal gladiator, which allows choosing to no lynch. We waste days on no lynching and end up with nothing but night kills in the end when we flip masting for results.

[Chickadee]

I agree.

[Chickadee]

Mastina claims loyal town gladiator
Vecna had an optional post restriction D1 he played out for role related benefits.
Skygazer is/was ascetic
I'm a video vendor. I can vend any time.
Firebringer can give guns????

I can't remember at the moment what else we've covered claim wise.

[Chickadee]

Anyways, if Mastina fails to duel scum here we should probably lynch her for the two townclears and the added certainty

Why?

Mastina has functionally claimed public cop. Whyfor to lynching the public cop when we are far from LYLO?

Mastina herself has claimed it's a bit of a lie/there's something else to reveal about her role. We can't trust anything from her until flip. And she's largely absent anyway, only popping in tot ell us about meatworld stuff.

[Chickadee]

The bolded large text is what was sticking out in my mind. Seems I was misremembering.


But I still don't trust you.

Spoiler:

Also, Ginngie-
Did you get anything from RC saying you recognised Mastina or anything similar?

I don't think so.
If she did, it should have also been in my role PM; it was not.

Titus, the role makes plenty of sense and it's not a miller

Fun fact, Gamma's sig given my view on vote/lynch manipulation roles being equivalent to a vig is quite hilariously appropriate given my role.

She fakeclaimed D3 IC iirc? but was in actuality mafia vig, so I would definitely think it’s wise to take hers and probably most early claims with a grain of salt.

While technically true, this is incredibly misleading.
I fakeclaimed D3 innocent child...as a N2 Vigilante. (And once D3 rolled around, I realclaimed my role. So no. Didn't lie. Told the truth!)
Given my stance on Vigilantes.
That in of itself was not a lie.
It was misleading, sure.
But my stance on vigilantes is that when they successfully shoot, they

are

conftown; they are proven to be town, and thus, proven innocent, just as if they were an innocent child. (Why this, in spite of my stance of roles != alignment? Because I am a member of the NRG and I am strongly in favor of the argument of vigs not being mafia-controlled. Nontown, sure. Even antitown, fine. But mafia vigs are a fuck no to me and are borderline bastard. They're not QUITE there, in that they're akin to a mafia Godfather; it is something TREMENDOUSLY powerful for the scum to have and NOT something I want in games out there willy-nilly.)

You can see my full realclaim the moment D3 unfolds, right here.

Spoiler: The Posts in Question

Actual claim: Night 2 Vig; last night, I shot Purrcocet.

(And yes, it's spelled that way. Not Vigilante; Vig. Not N2, Night 2.)

Purrcocet, a scumread of mine no less!, claimed my fucking role. He fucking claimed Night 2 vigilante. I had been

planning

to shoot someone like, say, Kokichi Oma, but as a vig the correct play is to always just fucking shoot your counterclaim especially when you don't get the chance to fucking talk all of D2.

I was basically breadcrumbing this role in every fucking post of mine (I can pull up my VERY specific wordings in a bit), but.
The reasoning for the fakeclaim should be self-evident. I said on D3 I would be an innocent child; that's because you don't fucking give a vigilante to a scum player, and the proof would be in the second nightkill with me having killed Purrcocet. (Well originally I was planning on shooting Kokichi, but. Yaknow. Claimed my exact fucking role, and all that.) By claiming D3 Innocent Child, I would lead scum to think I had no night action; by claiming D3 innocent child, I would lead players to think that I was utterly harmless before D3.

But for SOME fucking reason.

Purrcocet isn't dead.

So.

Purrcocet.
You've got some 'splainin' to do.

BTW investigatives should stay off me; they'd be wasting their action.
I'm a D3 Innocent Child.
If you are wondering, no, not

automatic

; I have to manually

trigger

it.

Investigatives should stay off of me because a gunsmith would get a guilty on me; rolecopping or vanilla copping or neapolitaning me would be a waste because my role would be proven come N2 with a successful vig.

I made it clear from the wording here what my true role is. AUTOMATIC-->guns. TRIGGER-->guns.

I guarantee you.

On D3, after I have triggered my action.

I will be conftown.

Again, I specify TRIGGER. I also was very careful with my wording. I never said that I would trigger my action ON D3. I said, QUITE SPECIFICALLY, I would be conftown on D3 after HAVING triggered my action.

Wrt innocent child shenanigans it's possible they have something to do with the "main characters" this setup is based around

I'm not a main character; my confirmation comes from a different method altogether.

My confirmation method comes from being a fucking vig.

Or they'll just do to you what they did to me and vanillarize-neighborize you.

That'd be their funeral then because it'd turn this game from "not exactly something I want" to "oh fuck you I AM GOING TO WIN THIS SHIT" mode.

Vanillaizing an innocent child wouldn't do much because I go without being conftown in most games, but I was specifically putting A LOT OF EFFORT into the strategy behind my vig; being vanillaized after I worked so hard on that would be a "fuck you".

This is no excuse to not post any reads because you can die before hand.

I have my reasons.

Put it this way.

If a townread of mine gets run up, I'll defend them.

I'll give thoughts on players randomly. Some of these may even be productive.

But I've no reason to give full reads before then.

Also this is a good way to help ensure I

don't

bite the bullet before D3. The suspicion on me helps me stay alive.

I know how to play roles, even ones I'm not particularly fond of. (I mean, I love being conftown, but this is a fairly shitty way to get it.) And I promise you, this is the best possibly strategy for me holding this role.

"Bite the bullet" was another hint, but the strongest hint here was "roles I'm not particularly fond of". What role have I on NUMEROUS different occasions stated I absolutely loathe? That's right. Vigilante. I hate them with a passion, but they have one particular use--being made conftown. It's a SHITTY way to become conftown, but it's becoming conftown nonetheless.

Also, this was me outlining my plan.

I wasn't going to give scumreads because guess what? As a fucking vig, I can let my SHOT do the talking in terms of scumreads.

I never lie about being conftownable as town.

Exaggerate

, yes.

Mislead

, sure!
But lie, fuck no, I know better than that.

So I guarantee you.

I will be conftown.

Here I basically admitted that I was in fact not a D3 IC, because the D3 IC claim was precisely this: misleading, and exaggeration, but still the truth, because by shooting N2, I'd be conftown on D3, just as good as an IC.

I'm gonna guess she's on a team with a vanillarizor or something and planned to explain it away that way or something

Joke's on them if they vanillaize me, actually. I'd laugh my ass off if they tried.

The assumption here was that I wouldn't be vanillaized N1 (after all, they thought I couldn't be conftown until D3 so why vanillaize me N1?), and if they attempted it N2, it presumably wouldn't stop my shot from going off. Thus, why the joke would be on them if they had tried; I'd still have fucked them over with the shot.

VOTE: Katsuki

I buy Katsuki's D5 Innocent Child claim if Katsuki has the two-phase-shifted equivalent of my role. (I

suspect

Katsuki would be able to share details about my role from their own, if so inclined to share, which I imagine Katsuki is not.)

So that's not a lynch ever happening because Katsuki is going to be just as conftown as I am, albeit two phases later than I will be.

Here I stated my suspicion that Katsuki had an Night 4 Vig. I was VERY careful about my wording. Not "two-day-shifted". Two PHASE shifted. And I suspected Katsuki would be able to give details of this.

if we have 2 ics there must be a disadvantage somewhere else

Would you believe me if I said I had an idea of what?

The disadvantage I am referring to here is how Vigs require KILLING, to REMOVE a player from the game--yes, they become conftown by having done so, but shots are DISPROPORTIONATELY likely to be on town (thus why I hate vigs), on top of the chance of failure (thus the gambit to help ensure I'd succeed).

I do not believe for so much as ONE SECOND I was roleblocked, because my claim was D3 Innocent Child.
I do not believe for so much as ONE SECOND I was redirected, because my claim was D3 Innocent Child.
I do not believe for so much as ONE SECOND I was rolecopped N1 to justify them knowing my role, because my claim was D3 Innocent Child.

So Purrcocet survived by some other means.
And I don't buy that it's by a town method.

Sure enough.

Exactly as I roleclaimed.

N2 Vigilante

was

my real role, and

I really did

shoot Purcocet using it.

So like I said.

I don't lie about my role as scum.

BY NECESSITY, I will mislead; the reason I by necessity need to mislead as scum is because I love to do it as town. BY NECESSITY, I will exaggerate, I will play up things, I will make very careful usage of very specific wording. BY NECESSITY, I will try to imply something, when it is something else, but this is done purely to mimic my town meta, and I will always claim the actual real role later.

All fakeclaims have an end date.

All fakeclaims are made knowing a realclaim will need to be made later.

And when I reveal the real claim, the reason for the fakeclaim makes complete and total sense when you view it, because you go, "Oh, I understand why that was done" instantly just by knowing the real role.

You can think of it in this term.
Macho <-> Bulletproof as a switch to make, is in fact a lie.
I would tell it gladly and have done so, specifically because I knew that upon a realclaim, the reasons for me having done so would be abundantly clear. The kind of thing where I don't even need to explain it. I could end up a corpse, and that fact alone, just seeing my flip, would instantly explain my actions.

That's how "lies" of mine work. And that's why I say they're not actually lies. They are, technically speaking, not the truth. But they are a lack of truth, which when you see the truth, you understand why they were done and follow it as having been the optimal play.

Claiming D3 Innocent Child as a N2 vig was a

brilliant

play move,

regardless

of alignment and I'm actually sad I was scum that game because that move would have actually been better were I town. It wasn't really a lie, just me playing the closest I've ever played to my town meta in spite of how little I actually played the game. (Through little fault of my own, mind you.)

If the town hadn't kept quicklynching and I hadn't been so swamped with real life stuff at the time that game coulda been a contender for best scumgame I ever played, but since they did and I was busy I barely got to do anything. BUT I DIGRESS.

Point being.

I don't lie as scum; the closest I come to lying as scum is mimicking my town lies, and when I lie as town, I am most definitively not doing so just for the lulz; there is a clear, role-based reason for the lie and when you see the real role you can understand how it wasn't really much of a lie at all if it was in fact really something you could call a lie because my fondness for wordplay and precise usage of words leads me to carefully selecting words which IMPLY the meaning I want BUT ACTUALLY are me confessing to my real role.

Oh yeah and
VOTE: Skygazer

Very bad vote.

Gamma is probably town, I think.

This is true!

I really will be excited when you can finally read me in a game.


Why wait up until deadline to use your ability? There are plenty of days when we don't need the full deadline.

[Chickadee]

Mastina, what's the Chickadee case?

Masting never reads me right.

She got me as scum once....in a game where literally everyone but one person was on small 1-2 person scum teams. Herself included.

[Chickadee]

My internet is out at home. Semi-temporary VLA. I’m trying to get it sorted out tomorrow.

[Chickadee]

Because mod is RC

(Love you RC)



Also update: my landlord says I won’t have internet until Wednesday. Something about needing a new firewall.

[Chickadee]

Note for Mastina-

Please remember that in the event of a 'guilty', ie, your gladiate failing, no time would be added to the deadline.

Mastina claims loyal town gladiator

whose gladiate can be no lynched

Bolded mine.

Are we really believing mastina got a loyal gladiate?

That essentially makes her a public daycop, no? If the target can be NL'd then we get free townreads in exchage for lynching, which is, I suppose, the balance tradeoff. Still hard to believe though.

Yea. I’m in the camp “lynch Mastina today unless he gladiator hits scum”

[Chickadee]

That essentially makes her a public daycop, no? If the target can be NL'd then we get free townreads in exchage for lynching, which is, I suppose, the balance tradeoff. Still hard to believe though.

Yes. It is pretty much a public daycop. And you don't ever lynch a fucking public daycop on D2.

Mastina is not a clear and present threat to the town. By ANY stretch of the imagination.

If it seems too good to be true though.......

[Chickadee]

Cool. I’ll be “confirmed town” when RC shows up.

I still don’t like letting Mastina live too long. I disagree with Jingle. The longer we wait the higher the risk.

[Chickadee]

Anyone wanting to keep Mastina around a long time, please tell me why scum doesn’t just fake claim that to coast all game and fuck town over on information. It’s pretty brilliant actually. Of course town doesn’t want to lynch what is essentially a public day cop they can keep using over and over.


VOTE: mastina
Not that I expect you all to actually lynch her.

[Chickadee]

How much are you suggesting has been fakeclaimed?

The loyal modifier

[Chickadee]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: No lynch
5 is too much though if nico comes back with no results. 3 fucks town over less if it’s elaborate scum theater.

[Chickadee]

Yea nico, not sure where you’re coming from thinking she wouldn’t be a gladiator. It’s happened twice now. The only questionable thing is the loyal modifier. You’re really feeling like you got not hai horse and now you have to ride it.

[Chickadee]

I'm ready for night.

[Chickadee]

Can you elaborate? Because this feels like you feeling certain, and saying it without back up. The role you've claimed just seems to have too many moving parts for me to believe. I feel like you're definitely a bunch of kids in a trench coat right now, trying to tell us you're a real person.

[Chickadee]

Like, walk me through everything step-by-step from your point of view, like I am stupid.

[Chickadee]

Ok, but that doesn't walk me through it.

Tell me what you got.

[Chickadee]

Nico, I’m with you, I don’t town read Mastina, but at the moment I also have no solid reason to townread you. So tell me what result you got.

I highly doubt your role is asking the mod if player is x-role. Usually it’s more of submitting a name and getting a result back. What was the result, in full.

[Chickadee]

I have 14 some odd pages to catch up on. What's the vote count on Mastina?

[Chickadee]

wtf even is this game anymore.

Thanks for the recap though.

[Chickadee]

waiting waiting waiting

(Not actually true...I'm at work, on what is supposed to be my only day off)

[Chickadee]

Here's all you need to know wheme

I have 14 some odd pages to catch up on. What's the vote count on Mastina?

Summary:

NR faked the guilty and will get actual results in 48 hours (or possibly less- not sure if the way it was described means that NR will get it whenever RC gets around to it instead).
Bla bla bla me and Jingle talk mechanics
Now wait around till NR gets the actual result back and then either claims a guilty or corroborates Mastina being loyal

Feel free to give reads on NicoRobin, Mastina, or anyone else in the game. Nobody's going anywhere

I have 14 some odd pages to catch up on. What's the vote count on Mastina?

L-3 at worst, but the guilty has been retracted so you shouldn't be voting there before NR gets an actual result anyway.

She might be mechanically cleared.

Removing non claim info and updating:

Jingle got targeted by a loud doc N2.

1)

Spoiler: The MEME Men

I'm a double voter town with one shot investigation ability of some sort who will win gladiates if a gladiator targets us. I just had a crisis in life and had to flake and whenever I was online on ms this thread was locked.

I will need till night to catch up and read stuff about this game and to try to communicate with my hydra partner. If I can't get that to work I will replace out

~Sora

2) Northsidegal
3)

Spoiler: Firebringer

wait my role gives guns not allows me to shoot...

u troll rc.

I will give a gun to whoever promises to shoot gamma if he isn't lynched.

4)

Spoiler: Nicorobin

p-edit: Rolecop and triplevoter.

5)

Spoiler: Mastina

I was expecting a troll role when I submitted my picks, and hoh boy did RC not disappoint.

I am Ginngie, Hated Loyal Gladiator

.
Outside of lylo/mylo (which is purely by the numbers, per the role wording), I take one less vote to lynch.
I can gladiate anyone by claiming a guilty on them, but if they're not town-aligned, it'll fail.

I can maybe, MAYBE use this as a conditional cop, IF we can no-lynch after a gladiate (I need to ask RC about this), but if not, yeahhhhh...

6) Gamma Emerald
7)

Spoiler: Chickadee

I'm a video vendor. I can vend any time.

8) Skygazer
9)

Spoiler: Varsoon

Jury's still out on how my role would interact with other vote-related powers but yeah
Everyone gets to cast a vote via PM and it's not revealed who voted who.

10)

Spoiler: KuroiXHF

I'll die, but I'll come back. And I won't flip.

BTW, I can post at night. I am alive, but not the same as everyone else.

11) Invisibility
12) Porkens
13) Whemestar
14)

Spoiler: Vecna

Alright here goes. Im sort of waiting for someone to pop their head in, but explaining stuff wont hurt (or maybe it will, but itll all be alright). Also on mobile and not at home so this may go in pieces.

JJH was on the right track, but he was asking completely the wrong questions.

My post restriction day1 was optional. The original restriction was that I could only state I am cornholio and that i need tp for my bunghole. I was cheeky and asked RC if I could also use the other cornholio quotes to make it less bland. he hesitantly agreed. I could not vote day1 without ruining the restriction. The reason I did not want to continue too much with the answering questions was that I felt it was not in line with the spirit of the role design, and RC had already given me more leeway in what I could do. I felt if I continued it might result in me failing the clause and it being for nothing. Besides that, asking someone with a PR to provide rainbow reads in his formatting somehow, while hardly anyone else is asked such a thing was complete bullcrap. Thats why instead you got rainbow trolling.

The only reason jjh was on my case was because he thought my quotes had ran out. If you just wouldve asked if my pr would last past day1 as a followup, all that nonsense wouldve been prevented. Regardless, I got run up. It is what it is. I claimed IC as an easy way out to at least be able to defend myself today. I judged that if I suddenly started talking normally I definately wouldve been the lynch.

Needless to say I do not have a literal IC role. Its similair'ish but nowhere near as definitive.

My role has three parts:
-I can visit someone at night and harass them. It will be revealed to them that I am beavis, village idiot.
-If anyone visits my house at night, they will hear the music that I am listening too (can choose a song each night).
-If I survive day1 while fullfilling my posting restriction, one of those abilities gets upgraded. Im not revealing what it is, and if any town finds out, please keep it quiet - unless I ask you otherwise.

More later

15) Lady Angel
18) Jingle
19) Nero Cain
20) Creature
21)

Spoiler: jjh927

Yo I'm deathproof and I can freeze people's votes in place

22) Aristophanes

Okay, so jjh and Jingle messed with my result in order to protect mastina, just as I suspected. >.>

VOTE: jjh
HURT: Jingle

So fess up, you two: which one of you did it?!

Which one of you messed with my results?

P.S. I will reveal everything in the morning.

[Chickadee]

Sure!

[Chickadee]

Nico, I'm kind of done with your game. Tell us what you got.

[Chickadee]

Nico, very plainly, I want you to paraphrase your rolepm. Then walk us through exactly what you got on porkens, and exactly what you got on Mastina. Just put it all in one post for me please, so we can stop having this cheeky back and forth between you and everyone else.

Please do not respond with something like”I got no result.” Just walk us through it step by step in one post. Because a lot of things aren’t lining up here.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: NicoRobin

[Chickadee]

Nope. Mastina won't duel until close to deadline, even with demotivation on the rise.

[Chickadee]

Either way, we shouldn't be lynching rn, we should be gladiating.

remind me why?

Mastina is gonna come in and Gladiate anyway.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: mastina

gladiate your biggest scum read

[Chickadee]

I'm absolutely still down for lynching mastina today. But if we can get another gladiate out of it we should.

[Chickadee]

remember when RC spammed my inbox with youtube videos

that was fun

It could happen again!

[Chickadee]

Don't feel bad. Most of us aren't in the groove of the game!

[Chickadee]

Current reads, associatives not considered:

Town:

KuroiXHF
Chickadee
Mastina
Nero Cain
Creature
Nicorobin
jjh927

Scum:

Aristophanes
Vecna
Northsidegal

Needs additional sorting:

1) The MEME Men
3) Firebringer
6) Gamma Emerald
8) Skygazer
9) Varsoon
11) Invisibility
12) Porkens
13) Whemestar
15) Lady Angel

I agree with most of your list, but moved jjh to the town pile. And I'm leaning scum on Varsoon. I can't tell if he's scum or just uninvested.

[Chickadee]

Current reads, associatives not considered:

Town:

KuroiXHF
Chickadee
Mastina
Nero Cain
Creature
Nicorobin
jjh927

Scum:

Aristophanes
Vecna
Northsidegal

Needs additional sorting:

1) The MEME Men
3) Firebringer
6) Gamma Emerald
8) Skygazer
9) Varsoon
11) Invisibility
12) Porkens
13) Whemestar
15) Lady Angel

I agree with most of your list, but moved jjh to the town pile. And I'm leaning scum on Varsoon. I can't tell if he's scum or just uninvested.

Wait cecna should be town too. Why didn’t I move him when I did this?


VOTE: Aristophanes
I want flips in this god damned game already.

[Chickadee]

I want flips that we decide.

[Chickadee]

Me too.
Why do you think that happens with Mastina alive?

I never said I think that. And all game I've been pushing for people to see Mastina needs to die at some point, preferably earlier than later.

i feel like its kind of a cheap shot to say "i want flips

town

decides" when shes been doing that

Actually no. She hasn't We've been taking her at her word and need her dead to confirm them. I want actual flips. Real honest to god here-are-their-role-pms flips.

[Chickadee]

I keep coming back to like 10 pages. I am eternally behind.

[Chickadee]

idk who I'm voting anymore

VOTE: Varsoon

[Chickadee]

I'm probably due for a prod. Please make this day end.

[Chickadee]

I would love to kill Mastina. I've lost all ambition to play the game. Either Mastina needs to come in and gladiate early in the day phase (because hey, we can still talk after that!), or she needs to die so we can stop all this wifomy back and forth. No one has to contribute real reads, and scum can just hide behind Mastina's role with some pretty easy reasoning.