micro 816-II: pokemon go (open game) (gambe over)

[northsidegal]

i have no intentions of letting the day end with a no lynch.

[MariaR]

thank goodness

[Kokichi Oma]

Ditto

[Kokichi Oma]

Nico is scum, I'm like 95% sure now

[profii]

profii, you have been so all over the place this game

and yet, on the whole, oddly consistent with nico of all players....

you expect me to think this is genuine?

Well Nico has been fairly consistent no?

[profii]

Nico is scum, I'm like 95% sure now

Why!!!!!!

[profii]

@Nico - why am I Town to you? Why weren’t you on my wagon?

[Kokichi Oma]

Nico is scum, I'm like 95% sure now

Why!!!!!!

I've said why already like 5 times. Plus, she's blatantly just trying to get a lynch through that's not her or you

[NicoRobin]

@Nico - why am I Town to you? Why weren’t you on my wagon?

Because your tone is towny.

[NicoRobin]

And because you are considering all the possibilities instead of tunneling, and in my humble experience, scum are more likely to just jump on me for easy mislynch, and since you are the only one that hasn't expressed such a sentiment so far, you are town.

[NicoRobin]

Okay, here are my responses

1. Why the hell should I believe that you and your townread are actually town? Just because you say so? Sorry, but that doesn't cut it.
2. I thought he had a guilty. Was supposed to keep silent and let you mislynch a possible JK over their guilty instead?
3. Again with 'what I believe'. All right then. Prove that what you believe is a fact. An actual fact. Not what you think is, but what actually is. Only then would I back down on this.

[NicoRobin]

In other words, prove me that you and Koki are town without implying that we should townread you both, no questions asked, just because you say so.

[northsidegal]

hey nicorobin, can you link the last few times you've been lynched as scum and maybe one or two times you've been lynched as town

[NicoRobin]

Sure.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=75360
viewtopic.php?f=84&t=74718
viewtopic.php?f=84&t=71362
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=70506
viewtopic.php?f=56&t=71471 (if you think I am lurking as scum, pay extra special attention to this one)

[stungun0404]

profii, you have been so all over the place this game

and yet, on the whole, oddly consistent with nico of all players....

you expect me to think this is genuine?

Well Nico has been fairly consistent no?

so has koki. what is different? at least koki has not receded into the background time and time again, whereas nico until yesterday had less posts than the mod of the game, which is not really playing the game

stungun-aronis-nsg-kokichi-stungun: all of nicos votes; none with better reasoning than thinking creature —> jk, “i’ll lay down a vote down on you because you asked me to vote somewhere”!, “you think i’d lurk as scum aronis? you must be some fool!”, “stungun’s voting me, so this isn’t OMGUZ cuz you’re scum!”, oh “koki’s just scum, so i’ll vote her”. when i know i am town, have faith koki is town, and see all her other votes have been on town that is worrisome as fuck since we are in MYLO with this slot. I cannot see town townfending her this hard, so it is hard for me to even fathom the possibility of you being town because nico really is not a townfendable slot in this particular MYLO, at least to the degree you are putting it.

if you genuinely believe this, you should reevaluate every push she has made, because they all have been BS, and had nothing to them. therefore, it is perfectly reasonable for me and anyone else to conclude she is scum. you don’t cling on to all these excuses to vote as town, and you sure as hell don’t vote someone who simply asks you to vote, or follow and further out a potential jk, or go headfirst for a lynch on someone just because they think you might lurk as scum. tell me, what can possibly seem town about ANY of nico’s votes? they are scummy pushes at best.

[stungun0404]

if i know i am town, and have consistently seen both nico and profii go for ML’s, and they are on my wagon, of course that is gonna concern me

[stungun0404]

here’s something interesting: i don’t think profii ever questioned nico about being jk when it was down to nsg and nico, did he have knowledge nico was scum with him?

[stungun0404]

ever since d1, nico’s votes have served as protection to profii

aronis and stungun were counters to profii, and on d2 she voted early nsg wagon while maria and i were all over profii; and again today, she goes for koki, but then saves herself by voting me together with profii.

thus, i continue conclude they are a super obvious scum duo, there is no fooling me into thinking they are not just scum together

[NicoRobin]

That's cute. Now answer my points.

[NicoRobin]

And frankly, if I am town and read pro as town, why shouldn't be leery of you and Koki? You make it sound like you are the only one allowed to scumread others on the merit of your own towniness and that of your townread.....

[Kokichi Oma]

NSG please save us

[profii]

here’s something interesting: i don’t think profii ever questioned nico about being jk when it was down to nsg and nico, did he have knowledge nico was scum with him?

Why would I contest an uncontested JK claim

[stungun0404]

nico, you selectively have not responded to my questions which i have asked continually about whether you have talked to tw about anything. i don't have much further desire to prove i am town, because i've done said things regarded to me being town probably 500 times in this thread, so the fact that you have not seen any of them is weird to me.

basically from where i stand koki can only ever be scum if she is scum with Maria. any other situation hardly makes sense. thus, from your perspective, given they have defended each other, i don't understand why you conclude it's more likely it's me and koki when i fought koki the majority of d1 and similarly continued much of that 1 vs. 1 d2.

the only situation i see where koki + maria is even plausible is if nico is town, but i am having a hard time reaching that conclusion since i believe koki is town, and from day start i felt if koki is town, then nico is scum, and vice versa; just like with maria and profii; because i felt both sets were extremely unlikely partners and it would have straight up be a combo of the two sets.

in this regard, you can say i have consistently followed my logic, as i really never seriously consider maria and profii to be plausible, or nico and koki. profii and koki does not make sense either. so therefore, scum pairs would have to be between (profii + nico), (maria + nico), and (koki + maria) undoubtedly.

so, why exactly am i scummier than the other 2 from your vantage point?

[stungun0404]

nico, you selectively have not responded to my questions which i have asked continually about whether you have talked to tw about anything. i don't have much further desire to prove i am town, because i've done said things

regarding

me being town probably 500 times in this thread, so the fact that you have not seen any of them is weird to me.

basically from where i stand koki can only ever be scum if she is scum with Maria. any other situation hardly makes sense. thus, from your perspective, given they have defended each other, i don't understand why you conclude it's more likely it's me and koki when i fought koki the majority of d1 and similarly continued much of that 1 vs. 1 d2.

it's almost as though you are not willing to take my entire iso into consideration in forming opinions

the only situation i see where koki + maria is even plausible is if nico is town, but i am having a hard time reaching that conclusion since i believe koki is town, and from day start i felt if koki is town, then nico is scum, and vice versa; just like with maria and profii; because i felt both sets were extremely unlikely partners and it would have straight up be a combo of the two sets.

in this regard, you can say i have consistently followed my logic, as i really never seriously consider maria and profii to be plausible, or nico and koki. profii and koki does not make sense either. so therefore, scum pairs would have to be between (profii + nico), (maria + nico), and (koki + maria) undoubtedly.

so, why exactly am i scummier than the other 2 from your vantage point?

EBWOP, with the changes bolded

[stungun0404]

UNVOTE: Nico

there's something i'd like to discuss before nsg can hammer here