how good is vonflare at laser tag [game over]

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Alchemist21

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Alchemist21

Don’t make me roast you.

I've been wanting to use that one at least a year. LET ME HAVE MY FUN.

[Gamma Emerald]

oh i picked the coolest sounding words but sure

I picked the ones that I felt suited me
But what’s to indicate which are scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

Setup is Lover 15 from Open Game Discussion.

Mafia is Day 1 a 5-lover set.
Day 2 they are a 2-lover pair and a 3-lover set, that they decided upon among themselves after day 1 interactions. DO NOT OUT ASSOCIATIVE TELLS OR READS YOU HAVE. Outting those helps scum. Leaving them private therefore hurts scum which helps town by contrast.

@Jiffy, my exact reaction "WTF Where is chapter 1?".

Re: Nameclaims.

This game is "possibly classed bastard" because of the fact that the role names were pre-determined as scum/town names before the game started. That is (part of) why we had to pick 3 names apiece, so he could ensure 5 scum names were picked and in-use (the other part is so if 2 people picked same name, it allowed for deconfliction).


Since there is no mechanical advantage or disadvantage to scum knowing who picked which names, I think we should do it, because the two LIKELIEST scenarios from my POV in this game are A: zz picked the names based off of real-life "scum" (Read: who was on the other team against him), or based of which lasertag names sounded scummiest.

As I am unsure he remembers the names of all of his opponents, I am leaning towards the second scenario being the most likely behind the choice of scum names.

Therefore, I suggest namepick claims as a viable strategy to gain info.

Where does it actually SAY the setup?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Alchemist21

He might be useless when wet but you're just overall useless
VOTE: Gamma

Well fuck you too! I just wanted to be funny now you’re being rude, I see how it is.

[Gamma Emerald]

Where does it actually SAY the setup?

Nvm

[Gamma Emerald]

Tbh I actually want you to backup that useless claim because now that I think about it that doesn’t feel accurate to how you have looked at me in the past

[Gamma Emerald]

jk i hate maria's entrance more
VOTE: maria

Y

[Gamma Emerald]

"more"?
That implies that you're scumreading me to at least some extent: why is that the case?
Oh and I'm openly offering to be lynched tomorrow if I'm wrong because I won't be. I'm confident that I'll get this right.

I have a mild confidence in you
I expect you’ll probably find scum, but we only have one lynch to nail this, so I’m worried you’ll scum in your pool but they won’t be your top lynch

[Gamma Emerald]

Tbh I actually want you to backup that useless claim because now that I think about it that doesn’t feel accurate to how you have looked at me in the past

quote tags are awesome for reference purposes.

I wrote it way earlier and didn’t feel like fixing it

[Gamma Emerald]

I wrote it way earlier and didn’t feel like fixing it

Then who was that referring to?

Maria
Who else called me useless?

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok sorry
Asperger’s + Online = my sense of humor is shitty af

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay did Maria do something? This personal hate feels rather unwarranted

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t think I’m scummy. So enlighten me as to why you think I am.

Most people don’t lol
I was kinda agreeing but this made me solidly agree that you’re scum

[Gamma Emerald]

ZzZzZz

You mean xyzzy

[Gamma Emerald]

I only picked names of vests I played in

Saaaame

Same actually

literally said that you guys would say this.

Still a good scumhunting method for the other 11 players.

Fucking how
Answer my previous question you cad

[Gamma Emerald]

Where does it actually SAY the setup?

Nvm

I see you're as bad at reading Mod OP's, Mod Posts concerning a game you are in, and Sample Role PMs as you are about reading the signatures of people you anti-nom titles for based off of never having ever interacted with them ever.

Way to bring that in here dickcheese
VOTE: Maruchan

[Gamma Emerald]

Like just because I was dumb you decide to shit all over me? Gtfo, you already said you dislike playing with RC so just fucking leave before I have to cut a bitch

[Gamma Emerald]

Where does it actually SAY the setup?

Nvm

I see you're as bad at reading Mod OP's, Mod Posts concerning a game you are in, and Sample Role PMs as you are about reading the signatures of people you anti-nom titles for based off of never having ever interacted with them ever.

But hey guess what fucker: I’m practically conftown.

[Gamma Emerald]

I only picked names of vests I played in

Saaaame

Same actually

literally said that you guys would say this.

Still a good scumhunting method for the other 11 players.

Fucking how
Answer my previous question you cad

The fact Mary took time to shit on me but avoided answering my question makes me feel he’s scum
My anger vote just became real

[Gamma Emerald]

Where does it actually SAY the setup?

Nvm

I see you're as bad at reading Mod OP's, Mod Posts concerning a game you are in, and Sample Role PMs as you are about reading the signatures of people you anti-nom titles for based off of never having ever interacted with them ever.

But hey guess what fucker: I’m practically conftown.

No one is confirmed town

Also please stop with the personal attacks.

I’ll stop with the attacks but lol k how do I go unaware like that if I’m scum? I’d have the info in my fucking role PM.

[Gamma Emerald]

gamma's town gj gamma now pls unvote maru.

Once he answers my question maybe
I do think your jiffy read is alright though
Wish I had multiple votes actually

[Gamma Emerald]

still at page 5 but i want to pull my hair out because of this so figured I'd share:
3 people haven't even posted yet.
RC has more posts than ANY two other players combined, more than the 3rd, 4th, and 5th players combined, and more posts than the BOTTOM TEN PLAYERS combined.
i'm pullin muh hairz out over here

RadiantCowbells 67
Majiffy 41
Gamma Emerald 22
Invisibility 19
PenguinPower 17
chamber 17
Maruchan 12
MariaR 11

xyzzy 11

Alchemist21 8
Chickadee 7
vonflare 6
Irrelephant11 2

Again, why is math of how many posts RC has relevant at all?

[Gamma Emerald]

good read dunn

i also think that gamma might be scum

'but you just said gamma was town'

no I just wanted to see if he'd vote jiffy if I buddied him

Sooooo... despite me not sheeting you because you buddies me, you still think I’m scum? That’s quite the Morton’s Fork you got there buddy.
FYI the Morton’s Fork thing is a smoother rendition of the Regardless Of Tell Aneninen found. I find the original name awkward to say in my head so I found a name that fits the same but sounds smoother. The point is go look at Aneninen’s wiki where it talks about Regardless Of, that’s what RC is doing

[Gamma Emerald]

Where does it actually SAY the setup?

Nvm

I see you're as bad at reading Mod OP's, Mod Posts concerning a game you are in, and Sample Role PMs as you are about reading the signatures of people you anti-nom titles for based off of never having ever interacted with them ever.

But hey guess what fucker: I’m practically conftown.

No one is confirmed town

Also please stop with the personal attacks.

I’ll stop with the attacks but lol k how do I go unaware like that if I’m scum? I’d have the info in my fucking role PM.

And RC if I’m scum explain this.

[Gamma Emerald]

wtf is 251

Actually you know what I think
I think it could be jiffy and RC and they just did a lame bus maneuver
VOTE: Majiffy

[Gamma Emerald]

Where does it actually SAY the setup?

Nvm

I see you're as bad at reading Mod OP's, Mod Posts concerning a game you are in, and Sample Role PMs as you are about reading the signatures of people you anti-nom titles for based off of never having ever interacted with them ever.

Way to bring that in here dickcheese
VOTE: Maruchan

Quick question, do you really want to lynch this or is it more of a personal thing (ironically)?

Because we win if we lynch mafia day 1, I'd think now wouldn't be the time for a policy lynch (which seems to be implied)

It became serious later
But I’m more interested in this RC/jiffy idea rn

[Gamma Emerald]

I didn’t even say that actually
I asked where the setup info was
I figured out the setup from everyone else who did know

[Gamma Emerald]

Not really. Asking the setup is implying you’re uninformed. Asking where setup is stated doesn’t achieve that same end goal.

[Gamma Emerald]

I wrote it way earlier and didn’t feel like fixing it

Then who was that referring to?

Maria
Who else called me useless?

Oh...you took my joke srsly. AWWWW GAMMA BUDDY NO I WAS JUST ROASTING YOU <3 I don't think you're useless! .....Unlike some people in this list
Pedit: Mmmm RC flipped scum but since it's rc and 5 scum d1 I won't be able to lynch that

I caught your speech. But what if I told you I'm actually not useless town? I'm only useless town from your perspective.

OK the fuck is this

[Gamma Emerald]

changes nothing.

And that’s why you’re scum

[Gamma Emerald]

Where does it actually SAY the setup?

Nvm

I see you're as bad at reading Mod OP's, Mod Posts concerning a game you are in, and Sample Role PMs as you are about reading the signatures of people you anti-nom titles for based off of never having ever interacted with them ever.

But hey guess what fucker: I’m practically conftown.

also this is bad hmm

How.

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:
So I can’t think of anything beyond baseless paranoia for why RC!scum would defend me like this so that kills the basis for my vote

[Gamma Emerald]

Has the reasoning for that changed since I last really took in the logic (Chick defending jiffy was looking scummy)?

[Gamma Emerald]

That was to RC

[Gamma Emerald]

Umm besides that she started doing this weird thing where she keeps saying I'm lynching her for being incompetent, no.

Yeah I agree that is a good vote
VOTE: Chickadee
Maruchan I still want you to answer my question.

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually that response made me reconsider
Because I thought when RC said it it was more of a misinterpretation of the read by Chick, but that post tells me it’s more of a conclusion of what is causing the push.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: alchemist21

Ok let's wagon this

I liked this wagon before and still think it’s good
VOTE: Alchemist21

[Gamma Emerald]

i guess you could call me opportunistic but 1 wagon
super eh
it would really only make sense with a lot of wagon hopping
also what made me voting on a wagon more likely to be scum than chickadee?

i guess you could call me opportunistic

Gamma’s hop is also very bad. I also think if there’s any scum that would actually be afraid of my Town game it’s him so the more shade he throws the more that read will solidify.

>Afraid of your town game as scum
bitch I rolled your ass last time I was scum with you (the only time actually but w/e)

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: alchemist21

Ok let's wagon this

I liked this wagon before and still think it’s good
VOTE: Alchemist21

I don't really care about the other people voting him, but I think you need to look elsewhere. Thank you.

Fucking excuse me? What's your damage?

[Gamma Emerald]

Alch is obvscum

Majiffy is scum buddy as I originally postulated w/ Deedles just as town being dumb, Chamber as buddy, MariaR possibly as further buddy

yeah chamber as buddy, that was a fucking gross way to question my read, like that is a personal attack afaict

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm still trying to get over you not seeing scum!maru.

I see you're not answering questions directed at you either

[Gamma Emerald]

13 pages is way too much for me. My brain is still in Norfolk so i can't try to keep up


someone make a list of any point that I need to address, or anything in particular i *MUST* read, because I am not reading 13 pages. Post that within the next 4-5 posts and I'll respond to it. That's how i'm going to handle this day 1, because I can't deal with being on mandated-hurricane-vacation and the speed of this game simultaneously.

Fine I'll quote my question towards you since you won't find it yourself

lazy jerk

[Gamma Emerald]

Rolled my ass? I caught you and your team killed me for it.

I don't recall you catching me
maybe you suspected me but I wasn't caught by anyone that game

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh lol wrong game, forgot you were in it
I was thinking about Desperation Day
That game I got myself lynched for a bad fakeclaim

[Gamma Emerald]

@Maruchan

what’s to indicate which [flavor names] are scum?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: alchemist21

Ok let's wagon this

I liked this wagon before and still think it’s good
VOTE: Alchemist21

I don't really care about the other people voting him, but I think you need to look elsewhere. Thank you.

Fucking excuse me? What's your damage?

@chamber

explain why you singled me out like this and decided to insult me or I’m blacklisting you after this game is over.

[Gamma Emerald]

It's because he's scum and he thinks you're the most malleable person on the wagon. Don't take it so personally.

Fine. Just a word chamber: being rude to me while trying to get me to not do something will probably have the opposite effect

[Gamma Emerald]

This is so bizzare. How does that get interpreted as an insult?

It felt like you were telling me I was bad
But if I’m your top tr then it kinda is like that but in a more wholesome sense, like you know I can do better

[Gamma Emerald]

[.
~snip~

What made you start townreading me?

[Gamma Emerald]

half way there!!!!!!

The first half is the easiest

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah at 22 pages in less than 24 hours and I have a 16 hour drive coming up Sunday morning I cdnt denote the time to this genre

I already V/LA'd in my first post but apparently that isn't enough for some of y'all to realize I would be largely not here this weekend so

@xyzzy this started about a week earlier than I could handle so unless you're OK with me just not posting for the first week and ignoring all pages of content that happen on said week I'm gonna have to replace out.

I can't play this from mobile and I can't sit in my hotel room all day every day for the next 3 days

Gfdi I hope you’re scum

[Gamma Emerald]

Are you going to give a shit about this game if this makes you wrong 4 games in a row where we were TvT?
I cared when I was wrong in purgatory, when you mislynched me in lylo in the turbo you just shrugged and said you weren't lynching firebringer

you expect me to give you all these chances to prove that you're town yet whenever you scumread me it's time to derptunnel and make the game unplayable for me

why don't you show me the consideration that you're talking about if you want it in return?

Honestly that’s how Maria is when she’s mislynched me (after the first time) so don’t feel singled out

[Gamma Emerald]

he's scum, there definitely wasn't any of the negative intent that I think you saw in it but that doesn't mean he's town or that you should listen to him obvsly

I didn’t really intend for that to influence his alignment
I was just gonna blacklist him if he didn’t apologize/explain

[Gamma Emerald]

(not extending to threatening to policy lynch her, I said that so that she'd react in a way that I could say that this was pretty conclusive proof she's scum because she would have flipped her shit as town and she flipped her shit, so.)

Ok so that’s why your read changed
Honestly I was kinda on board the Maria read as I got the feeling she gave me town status too easily

[Gamma Emerald]

You're right that if I ml someone I just move on with my day whoops. (good pizza btw)
Gamma you're town cause I say so friend. I won't out me meta on you. If you wanna sr me for tring you by all means go for it

I’m not asking for meta I’m asking what in this game makes you TR me

[Gamma Emerald]

Also could you E-send me some pizza cos I have sandwiches practically every day and it can get boring
PEdit: ok

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd send some if I could there was a deal where larges are only $1 more instead of the normal 4 and I'm just...so much pizza

Oh god something just popped into my head and this post has gotten freaky

[Gamma Emerald]

I am strongly inclined to agree with that assessment, given that I am more and more convinced that Maruchan is in fact town, just being a PITA. Unfortunate. I'm not sure if you would have enjoyed being town with me, but I guess it's better than this.

From my pov, he's the mislynch you think Maru is. And even if hes ultimately scum, he'll die when some partner of his does. I think strategically it makes no sense to align my vote or interests with you ever in this game.

Bad logic. Scummy.

[Gamma Emerald]

BTW just a reminder to lay off the associatives

[Gamma Emerald]

It looking that way*

Intentional TWTBAW play, cool

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Gamma

Anyone that thinks Alch and myself are both town vote Gamma with me. If you think one of Alch or myself is scum, vote the appropriate wagon.

VOTE: Majiffy
I was like 20% unconvinced on switching to jiffy but this removed my doubts

[Gamma Emerald]

RC jiffy is the proper play

[Gamma Emerald]

I won’t deny that is an OMGUS vote
I will state that came from out of the blue and with several people having gone after me before it feels like I’m the dedicated mislynch.

[Gamma Emerald]

The only way my vote goes on Chick is if you can tie her being scum to my being chosen as the dedicated ML.

[Gamma Emerald]

Vote majiffy

While I appreciate this I want to know your reasons for this

[Gamma Emerald]

Because I want your reasons for voting jiffy since it feels a bit unexpected

[Gamma Emerald]

I know the newer players focus way more on town telling and building functional groups or w/e. That's not me. Everyone is scum to differing degrees. That doesn't mean I can't work with people, but the people reaching out to me are not the people I have any desire to work with. I'm waiting on Titus's catchup and for other people to post more.

Mafia is a team game. Why take such an individualistic approach?

[Gamma Emerald]

i made it home safely

and some admin spoilered my 3+ year old siggy sometime since this game started. grrrrrrrr

Your sig is too many lines is the problem

[Gamma Emerald]

Titus never reads games she replaces into

[Gamma Emerald]

and try to work out the other 4.

If you are still around, can you elaborate on what you meant here.

What is there to elaborate?

[Gamma Emerald]

Alright, well after she answers tell me what others ways you thought of to read it

[Gamma Emerald]

Your turn. What motivation do you attribute to me asking that question if I don't have multiple valid interpretations?

You trying to feign ignorance? Why do you think I didn’t have a reason?

[Gamma Emerald]

Over that specific post? If so what is the odd thing you agree with me about?

The pure sadness vote was really really bad.

You wanna vote Sadness with me? I think Jiffy’s Town.

VOTE: Pure Sadness

Yeah Pure Sadness seems to be playing under the radar

[Gamma Emerald]

Having to respond on mobile and lack the time to pare down the quote wall by Irrel so copy/pasted segments it is

Regardless of whether RC/Maria is tvt or svs this is such a scummy post

Why am I scum for expressing paranoia? MariaR is good at reading me but it felt like I’d not done enough for her to get a read on me. Her explanation was sufficient FYI.

I don't see how this game can be won without associative reading though
Scummy suggestion

Well it can be won by not using associatives I am fairly certain, but I’m dead sure associations can make it much harder to win if we mislynch today. Someone made a post detailing this in the first few pages iirc.

lol that's you

In order for me to be intentionally TWTBAWing I’d have to be acting flagrantly scummy, which I most certain am not. This feels notoriously like a “no u” post which means you’ve outed yourself as a shitty debater.

[Gamma Emerald]

- Because the paranoia was fake and went away the moment RC said he stopped scumreading Maria
- It's not like scum can remove their D1 associations. Caught scum will remain caught in D2 when I look back and reread
- Honestly I haven't townread like anything you've said and I feel like you're backing it up with this self-righteous tone as if it's insane I'm scumreading you - for which I'm scumreading you

-Or I liked Maria’s explanation? That’s a misinterpretation at best and twisting the shit out of the background events at worst, in fact I think it’s a complete lie now that I remember something
-Well the caught scum can tie themselves together an bam town has no leads. It’s similar to why scum would kill themselves in Red Flag.
-I can accept a scumread, I won’t lie down about misinterpretations if my play however. If you think my play is scummy once I’ve corrected you I’d probably let it go.

[Gamma Emerald]

@dunn
@invis
@penguin

join us on Gamma

Interesting how he solicits three votes, the exact minimum number of town needed to get a mislynch

[Gamma Emerald]

Where does it actually SAY the setup?

Nvm

I see you're as bad at reading Mod OP's, Mod Posts concerning a game you are in, and Sample Role PMs as you are about reading the signatures of people you anti-nom titles for based off of never having ever interacted with them ever.

Way to bring that in here dickcheese
VOTE: Maruchan

Hey Irrel, you call this never voting Maruchan?
VOTE: Irelephant11
I’m pretty sure he’s deliberately lying about my content at this point

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh my fucking god is Irrel scumreading me for calling myself the dedicated mislynch
I’ve done that same thing as town before
And guess what Einstein? Scum have pushed me for it before. Nice job on making it easy to catch you.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also how have I been uncooperative and how the fuck does Irrel think he’s obvtown, and if he thinks he’s obvtown why’s he scumreading me for thinking I might be evidently town?

[Gamma Emerald]

You're right that if I ml someone I just move on with my day whoops. (good pizza btw)
Gamma you're town cause I say so friend. I won't out me meta on you. If you wanna sr me for tring you by all means go for it

I’m not asking for meta I’m asking what in this game makes you TR me

You're overly sensitive

Also could you E-send me some pizza cos I have sandwiches practically every day and it can get boring
PEdit: ok

This is when I changed my mind about Maria trying to pocket me

[Gamma Emerald]

lol

If I were scum picking three townies to get on a mislynch why would I choose those three?
I had a feeling Invi might say no
Penguin has only expressed doubt about me me
Dunnstral is way too strong a player to sheep me thoughtlessly
Come to think of it why would I only appeal to three players? Does this idea also assume the wagon I'm going for will be three townies and myself and my four scum buddies all on the mislynch wagon? This makes no sense as a scum play

The simple answer is I'm appealing to my three strongest townreads to vote my strongest scumread.

Re: the post above
-It's my current interpretation and nothing you've said or shown me has given me reason to doubt it
-I don't know what you're saying here, it doesn't seem like it has to do with the point I made about associations? I think I really just don't understand you here.
-I'm not sure what you're saying here, either... That you'd accept a scumread if it were "better" somehow?

pedit: chamber gimme a sec

Fair on the appeal, that was just meant to get a rise out of you as I wasn’t sure about it myself given that would necessitate all scum being on my wagon.
As for the next part:
-Read my last post
-Let’s say we catch two scum D1 but end up mislynching. Those two can be paired up, we lynch them, and them we lose a lot of direction going forward.
-Yes, specifically if it doesn’t strike me as based on wrong ideas.

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh my fucking god is Irrel scumreading me for calling myself the dedicated mislynch
I’ve done that same thing as town before
And guess what Einstein? Scum have pushed me for it before. Nice job on making it easy to catch you.

Please link me to it

Also how have I been uncooperative and how the fuck does Irrel think he’s obvtown, and if he thinks he’s obvtown why’s he scumreading me for thinking I might be evidently town?

obvtown =/= conftown

I think I'm pretty obviously town based on how hard it would be for me to feel as comfortable as I do if I were scum :shrug:
I don't think you're anywhere near conf!town, and you claiming that you are because you didn't know the setup info reads scummy and fake

Ok fair on the conftown thing, thought it was an assessment of my tone, not you referring back to my assertion that his lack of setup knowledge Is be conftown
Will link the game in a little bit

[Gamma Emerald]

In that case (thinking we townread each other too easily) we have an established trend where we can easily read each other
I can link two somewhat recent games, one where she read me as scum correctly, one where I read her as town correctly.

[Gamma Emerald]

viewtopic.php?f=52&t=68337
In this game I self-ID’d as lynchbait and a scum hopped on for that reason

[Gamma Emerald]

self meta is bad

if you can recognize that you do x thing as town you can intentionally do it as scum and then do this^

Yes
But the thing I’m detailing is limited to one game. I called myself lynchbait in the context of THAT GAME.

[Gamma Emerald]

There are too many scum.

In the setup or your reads?

[Gamma Emerald]

Heyo Chara, it’s been a while.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't dislike alch at all. I'm just lynching based on info day 1 because I think the likelyhood we get a legit scum lynch is so low. So I want the lynch that blows interactions up the most for me and alch is one of those.

town winrates go down when scum is lynched day one. Maria gets it. :>

are you saying you townread Alch here or nullreading him?

Keep in mind via setup a D1 scum lynch is the best result

[Gamma Emerald]

Hi Alisae, I hope I don’t aggravate you

[Gamma Emerald]

I didn’t get uppity in American presidents mafia because I understood how I was being scummy
And in friemds mafia I think I might have been a bit uppity there

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Gamma

Because Gamma has not seen Star Wars: The Last Jedi.

I actually have
Twice

[Gamma Emerald]

Maru continuing to lurk shit out. Would be a good CW to Gamma.

I’m not even a wagon
But yeah he hasn’t read anything which is cheesing me off, because if he has an actual idea of which names might be scum that would help

[Gamma Emerald]

oh wait maru is like pp too hmm

In what way

[Gamma Emerald]

Wdym effect

[Gamma Emerald]

Mary please just answer my question sooner rather than later

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Alchemist21
I’m not feeling the Irrel vote and Alch hasn’t improved

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like now that he’s responding Maru is town
And yeah he’s right that Mary = Maru

[Gamma Emerald]

I was kinda hoping people would build the Alch wagon again and I could compare wagons but w/e
Still think Alch is scum btw

[Gamma Emerald]

You think me and chick are scum together?

There’s one wolf in the two of ya probably.
But together?
Naaaaaah.

If you think chamber/Chick has one wolf and jiffy/Chick are wolves together what is your thinking on chamber/jiffy?

[Gamma Emerald]

ok.

Is this to alisea or myself or both? Feels a bit underwhelming regardless.

Give them a break, if its me my responses are literally just quotes

You think me and chick are scum together?

There’s one wolf in the two of ya probably.
But together?
Naaaaaah.

If you think chamber/Chick has one wolf and jiffy/Chick are wolves together what is your thinking on chamber/jiffy?

idunno where do babies come from

Okay then
Not what I was hoping for but at least you’re honest about not having that worked out rn

[Gamma Emerald]

Deadline was set way too long I think

I don’t think so
It provides a lot of time for D1 back and forth, which is very important in this setup imo

[Gamma Emerald]

Titus get off gamma ty.
Gamma get off alch ty.
Alch join us on jiffy
PP join us on jiffy
u2 chamber

idc about the rest of you

Fine
UNVOTE:
Would vote jiffy but haven’t checked thread in a bit and don’t want to hammer on accident

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Majiffy

[Gamma Emerald]

I think Maru is town

[Gamma Emerald]

does this have anything to do with repping out

Yes
I think scum!Maru remains in the game under his conditions

[Gamma Emerald]

Maybe, hm
I’d thought he was behind for some reason and that influenced my thinking
Still think he’s town off of actual content at this point though

[Gamma Emerald]

@dunn
@invis
@penguin

join us on Gamma

lol

If I were scum picking three townies to get on a mislynch why would I choose those three?
I had a feeling Invi might say no
Penguin has only expressed doubt about me me
Dunnstral is way too strong a player to sheep me thoughtlessly
Come to think of it why would I only appeal to three players? Does this idea also assume the wagon I'm going for will be three townies and myself and my four scum buddies all on the mislynch wagon? This makes no sense as a scum play

The simple answer is I'm appealing to my three strongest townreads to vote my strongest scumread.

Re: the post above
-It's my current interpretation and nothing you've said or shown me has given me reason to doubt it
-I don't know what you're saying here, it doesn't seem like it has to do with the point I made about associations? I think I really just don't understand you here.
-I'm not sure what you're saying here, either... That you'd accept a scumread if it were "better" somehow?

pedit: chamber gimme a sec

When did Dunn and invis become townreads for you? They were in your null pile in your read list before this.

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You’re gonna be here a while if you’re not looking for something specific

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I'm looking for emotionality
And then I'm also looking to see if I can discern any obvious differences between scum and town you (which some players have)
I agree it might take awhile, but [redacted] so I have time

I don’t really have any advice, I think in general I’ve mellowed out as both alignments
If I tried I could find a few games of both alignments where I get emotional, but off the top of my head the one I remember best is me getting upset as an indie trying to townside in WWF Royal Rumble

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Btw I’m thinking Irrel is town after that questioning I did

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I want a 4 person scumpool from everyone, this will help us get a bearing on who is viable as a lynch
My scumpool:
Alchemist
Jiffy
Titus
Dunnstral

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Because
Jiffy: read on me former at a time when I think scum would really want to latch onto a dedicated mislynch
Titus: you haven’t done jack shit and I know you can actually contribute
Dunnstral: I don’t like how he’s interacted with me+Maria, feels like he’s hiding something

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And I decided to latch onto a wagon half the game seems disinterested in?

Boy you must not think highly of my scumgame

I thought there was a lot of people who wanted to lynch me then
The only specific objectors I recall are MariaR and, really that’s the only one I remember.

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I don't think I see the reasoning for posting scumpools? Seems like it's a quick way for scum to analyze who the easiest mislynch targets are

I get that
But the town seems very dissonant in opinions an any lynch is better than a no lynch

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I thought there was a lot of people who wanted to lynch me then
The only specific objectors I recall are MariaR and, really that’s the only one I remember.

i've been ignored.

elephant: i'll take a look.

You weren’t in the game then iirc

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I'm gonna guess titus is town based off her natural minimal posting

I'm not reading RC

Wtf “natural minimal posting”
Titus is a spamlord and any less is strange
This plus the scumread on Maria puts you on my scumdar

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titus spamposts as scum so minimal posting isn't scummy or strange or anything like that

consider the fact that I'm generally right about titus and you know this cause we played together all 3 of us more than once already. it's just a lean anyway.

I haven't read much from maria but her initial posts seem forced and scummy the way she behaved herself in a game we played together almost an year ago. take it fwiw.

Titus spams as both alignments what the FUCK are you saying

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Also are you saying I can’t be right AND town? FUCK. OFF.

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he said she does it as scum

too,

so posting minimally (not spamposting) isn't an indicator of her being scum.

Okay
But in that case it’s just a general anomaly, which I feel is scum-indicative

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I'm not saying you can't be right and town, I'm saying if you're scum, then one of my reads on either titus, maria or both are wrong because you're overreacting to my leans. I don't think you would as scum here if I was right.

Wait so because I’m objecting so hard you think if I’m scum that your reads are wrong? Would it be the other way?

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you wouldn't be loud about correct reads being wrong as scum for no reason unless you're making a levelling play here

Still doesn’t make much sense but w/e

yeah I'm not saying it's towny of her, I just find her posting natural.

Elaborate? I feel like she hasn’t done that could be read as natural

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Hasn’t done much*

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he said she does it as scum

too,

so posting minimally (not spamposting) isn't an indicator of her being scum.

Okay
But in that case it’s just a general anomaly, which I feel is scum-indicative

what did you think about my answer to this, Gamma?

I forgot she had a cold
But even with that the content that is there isn’t that great

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VOTE: mariar

8 posts into your ISO and you're already totally scum

I'm really out of it this game, why is Maria scum 8 posts in? She looked ok to me

"more"?
That implies that you're scumreading me to at least some extent: why is that the case?
Oh and I'm openly offering to be lynched tomorrow if I'm wrong because I won't be. I'm confident that I'll get this right.

I have a mild confidence in you
I expect you’ll probably find scum, but we only have one lynch to nail this, so I’m worried you’ll scum in your pool but they won’t be your top lynch

Scumreading this post

Gamma's town btw.
So in invis.
I feel that's fairly obv but I'll point it out for the slower ones.

Which means I don't like this post talking about gamma

Explain this.

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Explain this.

I don't scumread it

Meh looked like you did but I can see that
Still dislike you not engaging with Maria this game

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Mafia can bus as long as they keep the wagons split and lead off their partner

Then the bussers hop to the town wagon at DL

I want you to keep this in mind d2

[Gamma Emerald]

Mafia can bus as long as they keep the wagons split and lead off their partner

Then the bussers hop to the town wagon at DL

I want you to keep this in mind d2

Wagon reading is my strength

excellent
Everyone else: hold this guy to this

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Knew it was coming
Everyone should looking at my wagon d2

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Btw I’m with Maria on Dunn

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ring ring
ring ring
ring ring
hello?
yes, alchemist and dunn were the mafia

ring ring
ring ring
ring ring
hello?
yes, alchemist and dunn were the mafia

ring ring
ring ring
ring ring
hello?
yes, alchemist and dunn were the mafia

ring ring
ring ring
ring ring
hello?
yes, alchemist and dunn were the mafia

ring ring
ring ring
ring ring
hello?
yes, alchemist and dunn were the mafia

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Like, Alchemist didn’t do jack to improve how he was read
Everyone just dropped the read

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And bye the only scum I never caught was Chara, who replaced a pre-game flaker

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Like, Alchemist didn’t do jack to improve how he was read
Everyone just dropped the read

Everyone was too focused on me

Even then you should’ve been Lynched multiple times over

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I think it’s going to be (Alch, Dunn) and (NM, Chara, Irrel)

Good thing I hammered this guy

That was with spoilers you wingnut

[Gamma Emerald]

I wouldn't be this salty if I was alive and couldn't get dunn lynched cause gg wp. But the fact I got nk and people didn't auto lynch him makes me so mad.

100% true
Like how do you not get a Dunn lynch from that shitty ass hammer and Maria dying
THIS IS WHY IGNORING DEAD PEOPLE’S READS ISN’T SMART