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Post Post #1050 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:05 am

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Votecount 2.13

Dunnstral (3)
- northsidegal , Keyser Söze , the worst
Ausuka (2)
- Eragon , Reundo
northsidegal (1)
- Toranaga
Reundo (1)
- Ausuka
Keyser Söze (1)
- Nauci

Not voting: Dunnstral , Irrelephant11

The deadline for Day 2 is 2:17 pm CT on Thursday, September 20, in (expired on 2018-09-20 15:17:24).
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Post Post #1051 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:08 am

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Yeah that's the strongest thing I'm pulling from it too actually

I guess nsg could be the lynch - like volxen's ISO doesn't rule it out and the way nsg made up BS to push onto sesq instead of volxen is scummy

I wonder if nsg and dunnstral would both be scum in that scenario? Where Dunnstral says the volzen wagon is bad and votes sesq and nsg follows with "reasoning"
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Post Post #1052 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:09 am

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In post 1051, Irrelephant11 wrote:Yeah that's the strongest thing I'm pulling from it too actually

I guess nsg could be the lynch - like volxen's ISO doesn't rule it out and the way nsg made up BS to push onto sesq instead of volxen is scummy

I wonder if nsg and dunnstral would both be scum in that scenario? Where Dunnstral says the volzen wagon is bad and votes sesq and nsg follows with "reasoning"
dunn is probably scum too, yes
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Post Post #1053 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:11 am

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dunn is totally scum, his ISO is horrible
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Post Post #1054 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:14 am

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whdn my cat stops aggressively snuggling me ill refute the nsg case im very sure shes town
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Post Post #1055 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:15 am

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I mean I would love if nsg would come refute the nsg case
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Post Post #1056 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:16 am

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In post 1053, Toranaga wrote:dunn is totally scum, his ISO is horrible
this is like your 9th flip on dunn case him properly or stop flipping
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Post Post #1057 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:16 am

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In post 1055, Irrelephant11 wrote:I mean I would love if nsg would come refute the nsg case
i woujld love for us to not lynch town tia
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Post Post #1058 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:22 am

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lol same but I would feel more comfortable townreading nsg for her own play rather than for yours

but I digress


I think my preferred lynchpool is dunnstral/tw/ausuka and if everyone I townread wanted keyser or nsg I'd compromise there
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Post Post #1059 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:23 am

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mm swap keyser and the worst, the evidence mounting on keyser from many slots is a lot
Sorry keyser I'm enjoying your presence but I think you have high scum equity
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Post Post #1060 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:26 am

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In post 1056, Nauci wrote:
In post 1053, Toranaga wrote:dunn is totally scum, his ISO is horrible
this is like your 9th flip on dunn case him properly or stop flipping
I always thought scum was in dunn/ausuka/NSG

I re-read that first ausuka post with reads and she is shading both NSG and volxen

so NSG/ausuka is an unlikely pair

the way NSG and dunn interact is very svs

my hero town read on dunn was for really thin things that don't necessarily work if ausuka is town. I never said otherwise. I'm not flip flopping on the read, I'm just not always explaining everything wrt it.

as far as how I built my POE, I don't remember everything but:

irrelephant, nauci, tw and keyser are imo always town. then there's reundo who cased volxen hard and looks town to me as well. then there's eragon, who I keep forgetting why I was supposed to townread.

so it drops to these three slots: dunn, NSG, ausuka.

and ausuka looks a lot better than dunn in interactions with and talking about NSG.

so it's where I'm at.

I could be wrong on eragon, maybe I should ISO him next?
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Post Post #1061 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:29 am

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In post 1060, Toranaga wrote:I could be wrong on eragon, maybe I should ISO him next?
Can you do Dunnstral post by post first?
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Post Post #1062 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:29 am

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yeah probably not eragon

and definitely not keyser or tw
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Post Post #1063 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:33 am

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{Nauci, Irrelephant, Keyser}
{nsg, (will just trust nauci on this particular read since I'm low on towns anyway) dunnstral}
{Eragon, the worst, Toranga}
{reundo}

about here, i'm probably missing something
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Post Post #1064 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:34 am

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yeah what
you sure are those reads are jank
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Post Post #1065 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:40 am

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oh ok then i'll just follow consensus reads. dunnstral and me are the scumteam. game solved yay :D
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Post Post #1066 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:40 am

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If you have Reundo in your potential scum list after he built and sustained the volxen wagon from beginning to end with posts that ooze with town play then you trippin' dawg
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Post Post #1067 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:41 am

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I mean unless you find me a scum game from reundo where his entire day 1 is hard casing one of his partners, he's my only NEVER LYNCH
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Post Post #1068 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:42 am

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In post 1061, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 1060, Toranaga wrote:I could be wrong on eragon, maybe I should ISO him next?
Can you do Dunnstral post by post first?
well, maybe. IDK if I can really case him cause he is more POE and not objectively as scummy in isolated posts.

what stands out to me the most are his interactions with NSG. this is NOT a pre-flip association, cause both slots just look scummy when addressing each other. I'd note, for instance, that dunn starts mocking NSG for the commas read without pushing her, makes no read on her slot, doesn't react to her overreaction to him doing it in any meaningful manner, and then brings up the same commas topic again on d2 without pushing that read on any direction.

I'd note that dunn was probably the only player who actually managed to townread volxen on d1, and then, I think when volxen became a proper wagon and was getting lynched, he manages to ask this:
In post 245, Dunnstral wrote:Who was town reading Volxen?
and this is... first of all, the answer is "you". but this gives me a lot of pause cause he is defending a slot and shading the entire wagon on that slot when it's likely to flip scum at some point and bite him in the ass. so this is a towny thing he did, but maybe dunn is smart enough to know this won't actually look that bad when backreading the game.
In post 353, Dunnstral wrote:Still think sesq is question dodging

Ausuka votes are kind of weird, though
this is not horrible either...

I kinda like his sesq case. so yeah, I mean, fuck me there's stuff that's towny here. I'm just townreading everyone else more. and his ISO is indeed pretty empty, there's scummy interactions with NSG, and yeah. IDK who else would be scum at this point. maybe I'm lolclearing one of them, IDK, I don't think I'd catch it today though.
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Post Post #1069 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:43 am

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Mmkay. Have my caffeine, got my notes out, let's get crackalackin
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Post Post #1070 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:46 am

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In post 1059, Irrelephant11 wrote:mm swap keyser and the worst, the evidence mounting on keyser from many slots is a lot
Sorry keyser I'm enjoying your presence but I think you have high scum equity
Volxen knew I was town and formed his limited pushes around that.
Kop has a 100% read accuracy read on me.
You know I am town really and shouldnt be lynched today.
My D1 reads were solid.
Do you think I am underperforming as town?
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Post Post #1071 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:46 am

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the way dunn is shading the volxen wagon, really, does he have it in his scum range?

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Post Post #1072 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:47 am

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P.S. The Eragon slot is like hard gliding right under everyone's radar and that should bother all of y'all a lot
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Post Post #1073 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:49 am

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In post 1072, Nauci wrote:P.S. The Eragon slot is like hard gliding right under everyone's radar and that should bother all of y'all a lot
he is one foot above nsg/ausuka/dunn to me

there's literally nothing scummy about keyser btw
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Post Post #1074 (ISO) » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:51 am

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