The point isn't that she doesn't have that association; the point is that that association isn't really what anyone who interacts with Chickadee on the site would think of primarily when they think of her. Just because her name was originally used as a handle for laser tag, doesn't mean that she's particularly noteworthy for laser tag in the community beyond the meet (and even then, only the ~half of the meet that played laser tag), and it doesn't mean that when people see the name Chickadee they immediately think "oh, she uses this handle because she used to use it for laser tag". At least, I had never seen anyone make mention of it; maybe a significant portion of the community had, but I'd interacted with her in sitechat (and occasionally mafia) plenty and never saw it mentioned.
I think it'd be great if there were a good title for her that incorporated it, but there are many other more notable aspects of her site presence that need to be the basis for a title to make sense as representing her presence
In post 675, xyzzy wrote:there's no point in discussing it. DRK's just gonna keep moving the goalposts to avoid having to actually give out any titles
don't diss on DRK because you're annoyed someone isn't getting a title you think is good.
The whole point of this discussion is to get a variety of different perspectives. Sure, most people who went to the meet are for it, but when a majority of the people who didn't (i.e. most of the site) aren't for it, maybe you should take into consideration the title being for the site as a whole rather than saying that they're wrong because they haven't seen it from your perspective
every title is something where you'd need to be involved in a specific part of the community to understand it. the argument of "only the dozens of people who have read or posted in Chickadee's GTKAS thread, the dozenish people who are all extremely active in the Discord server where she's talked about it, and the people who were at this meet know about this aspect of who Chickadee is, therefore it's not relevant enough for a title" is a bad argument that fundamentally ignores how good titles come into existence
"I didn't know this thing about a person" isn't a sign that a title is bad.
Yes but “this part of a person isn’t what I think of when I think of them” is
I mean, Duck is from Australia
Does that mean his title should have had Australia in it
Heck no
That’s not a part of who he is that we associate with him on site
Not to say that where he is from is a bad thing
That just isn’t the impact he made in the site
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To dredge up a previous example, no one that doesn't play the Survivor Mishmash game associates Hiplop with their title. Is that a substantial portion of the MS userbase? No. So is it a bad title? No.
This argument of exclusivity "small group" BS is exactly that. Every single argument against either Precision Brushstroke or Precision Artist have been repeatedly nullified and yet you persist to repeat them over and over as if they haven't.
And lets stop acting like custom user titles are some world-shattering thing. It's just a little bit of fun text under a user's name. It doesn't change the mechanics or the general interactions of anyone on-site in any meaningful way. You really don't need to be prison guards over it. A lot of people voted for it, the user is in favor, just do the fucking deed.
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One of these days I’m going to get in on these meets
And play some Lazer tag with y’all
Majiffy, do you want to get banned from this thread again?
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The backlash drama over a custom user title that is non-offensive, applicable and already approved by the would-be-title-holder is absolutely astonishing. Are you all bored because there's no ban to get shitty about so you decide to get shitty over this?
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In post 689, Inferno390 wrote:One of these days I’m going to get in on these meets
And play some Lazer tag with y’all
Majiffy, do you want to get banned from this thread again?
The fuck do I care
If DRK wants to show their true colors and ban people that provide legitimate arguments instead of actually addressing them or *SHOCK* maybe just doing their fucking job then I guess that reflects a bit more on DRK than it does on me.
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In post 690, Majiffy wrote:The backlash drama over a custom user title that is non-offensive, applicable and already approved by the would-be-title-holder is absolutely astonishing. Are you all bored because there's no ban to get shitty about so you decide to get shitty over this?
you're easily the person I've seen get most shitty about this lmao
As a more serious answer, even as a survivor outsider I can appreciate that hiplop's title relates to something important within that circle and title worthy.
As an outsider to the meet, and even with the info currently provided, I cannot see how Chickadee being an expert in laser tag is title worthy.
And I think that's the important distinction I'm trying to make. It's not just that those at the meet don't "get" it, it's that many of those outside the meet, even when it's thoroughly explained and pushed, still don't agree it's title worthy, and I think that's maybe a perspective worth listening to.
A title for which no on-site context exists necessarily starts out at a disadvantage because someone who isn't "in" on such a title can't ever expect to gain a first-hand appreciation of why the user was given that title. It's great that a handful of scummers had a memorable experience with Chickadee and laser tag in Toronto, but it's not a concept that's strong enough to survive on its own as something that happened off-site. I'm not entirely against it being cleverly woven into a title that does take into account Chickadee's on-site presence, but every attempt along that line has just weakened the accessible portion of the title. It's stated in the OP that titles based on meets will be held to a higher standard and I do intend for that to remain the case.
In post 696, DeathRowKitty wrote: I'm not entirely against it being cleverly woven into a title that does take into account Chickadee's on-site presence, but every attempt along that line has just weakened the accessible portion of the title.
I'm sorry how in the world are Precision Brushstroke or Precision Artist weak titles?
You don't even back up your claims you just keep saying no like a petulant toddler.
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In post 690, Majiffy wrote:The backlash drama over a custom user title that is non-offensive, applicable and already approved by the would-be-title-holder is absolutely astonishing. Are you all bored because there's no ban to get shitty about so you decide to get shitty over this?
you're easily the person I've seen get most shitty about this lmao
Yes I tend to get shitty when people are unnecessarily getting up in arms over something that shouldn't concern them.
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