NY 215: HMS Erebus - Game Over!

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ok guys

your carry is here

VOTE: garmr

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ok guys

your carry is here

VOTE: garmr

Don't worry

She's been here

its a race to see who gets nightkilled first

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Then you can just go ahead and sit down now hon.

i beg to differ

im about to obvtown so quick itll be scary

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ill literally be townier than garmr

just try to cut yr teeth on that one

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Oh, boy! More people that prefer to use proper grammar and follow conventions of the English language. I love it when people talk like essays.

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Oh, boy! More people that prefer to use proper grammar and follow conventions of the English language. I love it when people talk like essays.

and then i fall into the trap of scumreading everyone who has the tone of a graphing calculator

deadass

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@Laps Race to obtown sounded like fun.
Looks like Nosf took a seat on the starting line tho.
VOTE: Nosferatu

eventually you'll get better enough at the game to have reads on page 2
im here to tell ya this aint it chief

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I think IO's vote is too early to be completely serious, but they do probably want me to answer why I questioned Umlaut. It's because I dislike meta being used to justify votes and try to discourage it or question the players doing it more. Also, I thought that it could be a form of early game bussing or a way of setting up negative associates, so I didn't want it to go unquestioned. I've seen members of the scumteam vote for themselves in RVS a lot.

do you talk exactly like this in your real games

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@Nosf I have reads! Sometimes even correct ones. I'd think it would be hard not to have any.

ok, ill pretend i implied you didnt have reads

pedit: i meant in your real life games

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goddamn u live up to that pfp

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goddamn u live up to that pfp

was this directed at me

yes you literally did it to him

-snip-

L M A O

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this'll be a fun game to carry

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Are you going to dismount your high horse and play soon?

what makes you think i havent already

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i am very down for a policy lynch on this guy im not reading those posts

angling for a 3 of a kind this game

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Alright

here's what we're not doing

we're not lynching CT *today*

ive played with people like that and his stiff tone makes it feel like hes always buddying or trying too hard.

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here's who we are wagoning atm, VOTE: malakittens

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Why did you vote for Malakittens Nosferatu? I looked through their ISO and saw nothing suspicious except their vote on Umlaut, which seemed pretty weak. Was it because of that?

it doesnt really matter

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you spelled gamma emerald wrong

mala >> gamma >> ?

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Io is gonna deepwolf either way

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I think Mala's Umlaut vote seems fair but that's because I also find Umlaut's behavior suspicious in the post she voted him for

so that's why you didn't vote with her?

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how many scum we agreeing on btw? I kinda assumed it was 3 but apparently this isn't a mini

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so u just go justified reason over gut cool to know

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do I vote with this reason I think is good, nah fuck it: gut

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so u just go justified reason over gut cool to know

do I vote with this reason I think is good, nah fuck it: gut

Um what? This better be sarcasm, because if not you're mental. Why would I follow a gut read over a read that actually feels grounded in proper logic?

u tell me cause you literally just did it

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nah nvm i read that wrong continue as u were gamma

off the chopping block u go

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idk xoxo is kinda sus but hes also gives off a noob feel

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Here are some questions for various players:

no.
please stop doing this.

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ok do u consider that question to be scumhunting

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does anyone scumread dave btw

give it a sec hes always scum when im playing i wanna give em a shot

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it's page 8 u practically started with us

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Answer to 157:
I do consider my questions to be scumhunting, the answers provide information I want to know about. In retrospect, Davesaz plays similarly to me. He often asks people lots of questions such as in 93, 94, 95, and 97. I just tend to give all my questions in one post.

ok but i dont think dave is scumhunting either

like u ask questions that there are seemingly nothing to gain from, and its literally just questions after questions with you it seems.

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I was asking because I'm going to take over that position

try you may

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Why am I the highest poster right now? This never happens...

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considering the amount of effort he's putting in he's likely scum yes

he looks scum but every time i try to lynch on of these people who do this they flip town. thats a vig shot not a lynch.

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Pedit: Never mind, you answered. Here's a hint -- I consider lack of questions a scumtell because it reflects either a) foreknowledge of the answers, or b) a desire to make a push without having to worry about how inconvenient the answers might be.

idk how to tell you how irrelevant this is

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idk i think youre wrong but i also think you're town for making that vote.

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idk i think youre wrong but i also think you're town for making that vote.

Does that mean you actually townread Lapsa? If so, why?

no i think he has bad reasoning for the vote

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It really does and dodging the question makes you look terrible.

it didnt and it doesnt

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It really does and dodging the question makes you look terrible.

it didnt and it doesnt

So you're going to be one of those players that don't give reasons for voting people?

Fucking wonderful.

it really do be that way sometimes

Look,Nos, why are you doing this when one or two sentences explaining your reason for voting would suffice? I know you may not put much faith in my questioning, but it can't be that hard to give an answer.

idk i guess im a contrarian like that

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ayy there it is

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why do you wanna know?

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Look,Nos, why are you doing this when one or two sentences explaining your reason for voting would suffice? I know you may not put much faith in my questioning, but it can't be that hard to give an answer.

how does that make you feel?

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yikes io im amazed you typed some of that with a clear head

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Either way you look at it lynching Mala solves a third of the game.

what the fuck lmaooo
UNVOTE: mala
VOTE: io

PEDIT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO POST THIS GODDAMN VOTE FOR THE PAST 3 MINUTES

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Keeping in mind that a scum you would probably have no need to make such a big deal over a minor point, I think you are probably gambitting to make yourself more suspicious in order to test reactions.

did you get any reactions

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the garbo ones too

io u got like a nice little readlist with zero explanations that you can just pump out real quick

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can we please not lynch CT?

that lapsa vote is towny af imo

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explain how this works as a townslip?

first off its not a townslip its just a towny vote

just read it and tell me you think scum makes it.

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he’s basically either a good scum player

haHA

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It’s very clearly TVS

i just think you're objectively wrong

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i mean i also dont think that telling one person theyre reason for voting lapsa is bad is a wk on lapsa

framing wack

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UNVOTE: io bad lynch for rn

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Pretty sure that’s the definition of WK.

i guess you've never seen twitch mods for irl streamers

explain how this works as a townslip?

first off its not a townslip its just a towny vote

just read it and tell me you think scum makes it.

yeah Io explained it p well

i dont think so

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asking for malakittens to be wagoned without reasoning(potential bussing)

YES

here's who we are wagoning atm, VOTE: malakittens

this is what bussing looks like
you may not like it
but this is peak scum play

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I think these are basically facts, no one will disagree that Lapsa is being wishy-washy, the question is, is that scummy? I don't think this is enough of a reason to lynch him right now.

i think y'all don't know what wishy washy means

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Now, the main reason I haven't liked Nos for a while is I feel like I know little about him or what he believes, that shouldn't be the case for the top poster. The first game-relevant post he made was 107, where he said it was a bad idea to lynch me D1, which was either his fourteenth or fifteenth. Also, I haven't heard him talk about many players other than me. Even his gambit seems weird to me, 155 does not sound like someone's who's satisfied their gambit is going perfectly okay. I think he only decided to do it when he began to ask me questions in 157. Therefore I am at a loss to explain 108 and that doesn't sit well with me since I agree with 284. I would like a reads list similar to the one I posted from him to know where he stands after all these posts.

i dont think i should be the top poster tbh its not my thing usually ev
i dont really consider what i did to be a gambit. i wanted to sort someone so i asked for a wagon.
mid-way thru i thought "well if i get a wagon on me too then we can consolidate and vca will be easier"
so i decided to make people vote me

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@CT: what do you think my reads look like rn

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down to lynch any of {gamma, dave, io, sajj}

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not io tho nvm

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Where did the Scioness accusations come from all of a sudden? I've hardly noticed them today.

mad coasting

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{ct, purrc}
{popo, saud, mala, xoxo}
{hugo, garmr, akarin, lapsa}
{gamma, dave}
{sajj, io}

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oh xoxo is tictac btw

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yeah i was like tic tac toe, x's and o's xoxo

love, gossip girl

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aw shucks

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VOTE: gamma

This is L-3

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in musical terms mala was a passing tone

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vote:gamma emerald

choo choo

VOTE: pox7
has not explained a single vote this game, this ends now

what an asinine vote

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like the reasoning is self evident
it's a sheep

all of his votes are transparently policy or sheep

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Woah, woah, wait. Is 192 a serious post and not a troll post??

I have a hard time believing you just now parsed this.

i can believe it

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ok why

cause its not cause its not explained, which is literally why you voted.

so what is now the reason you think he's scum

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He hasn't participated at all in discussion

what makes you say that

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are you implying that popo is the only person here to not have contributed to discussion?

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the superficiality is overwhelming

or is it underwhelming

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Like if Scioness is scum, are the partners going to come out with some big defense right now? Based on what?

they would probably say some shit like "wait why are we lynching scioness, I didn't see any reasoning its really sudden"

oh wait

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ok my lynch pool happens to be everyone being scumread by the town and I don't like it

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don't take this wrong but I know I'm good, but I also know that towns are not so ???

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Remind me who your lynch pool is, and I'll help you figure out what's wrong.

{you, you, you, not you}

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lick my balls you defensive emo scum dumbfuck. go ahead and replace out to another dimension

im not gonna lie this came out of nowhere and i fucking laughed so hard i think i punctured a lung

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How does scum!Gamma make this type of post knowing the type of backlash it generates?

the simpler explanation is that gamma is simply an awkward person. I don't see how playing as either alignment would change that aspect of him.

can we stop trying to make this game even more miserable thanks

ill pretend to accept any responsibility for stuff that happened while i was sleeping. good talk my dude.

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will vote whoever in {gamma, dave, sajj} has the most votes btw

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oh? how are they bad?

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Remind me, not sure you’ve given a coherent one.

how's my reason supposed to be bad if you don't even know it

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By definition all reasons are bad given I'm town.

mood lmaoo

i never gave one, i was actually midway through typing it before you posted that

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ok i really want gamma to be town here
nos am i bugging

i mean we might just be scumreading him for being awkward but i still think this flips red tbh

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fsr even coming fresh off that mariaR beatdown i tr gammas reactions

i dont remember playing with a scum gamma to really know his reactions

sajj > gamma tho

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also omg i love that xoxo is in the votecount settings now

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Oh hell no. I’m not going to be on this wagon with

both popo and lapsa.

I might be okay with one, but not both.

UNVOTE: Nofs

Just scanning through the thread this post rubs me up the wrong way.


So in short I think it's pretty obvious what happened here is she voted Nos slot to get a better read on him/to make him post more content. Then when two others (pop/lapsa) sheep her, she suddenly doesn't care about nos anymore and drops the vote then starts attacking the people who sheeped her. This isn't townie thing to do.

This shows

1-That her reasoning to vote nosf wasn't very strong anyway. (she never claimed it to be through)
2-She really doesn't care that much about figuring out nos's alignment. Because Popo and lapsa votes would of added pressure to the slot.
3-Neither slot has any bearing on her read on nos at all. They don't post much content to think if one is scum they are lynching town over bussing.
4-She never intended to start a wagon on nos at all.

Potential Motives

1-Could be concerned about her image with two low content poster sheeping her on a vote that was low content.
2-Wanted to appear like she pushing by voting nos. Quite obvious she didn't care about the nos read.
3-Felt like it was dangerous to stay on Nos so wanted off and to feel safe.

VOTE: MalaKittens

are you serious

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So in short I think it's pretty obvious what happened here is she voted Nos slot to get a better read on him/to make him post more content. Then when two others (pop/lapsa) sheep her, she suddenly doesn't care about nos anymore and drops the vote then starts attacking the people who sheeped her. This isn't townie thing to do.

she voted me cause i started a wagon on her for literally no reason at all

and then two scumreads jumped on the wagon

WHY would town stay on. PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME.

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sigh

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It really does and dodging the question makes you look terrible.

it didnt and it doesnt

It really does and dodging the question makes you look terrible.

it didnt and it doesnt

So you're going to be one of those players that don't give reasons for voting people?

Fucking wonderful.

It really does and dodging the question makes you look terrible.

it didnt and it doesnt

So you're going to be one of those players that don't give reasons for voting people?

Fucking wonderful.

it really do be that way sometimes

Look,Nos, why are you doing this when one or two sentences explaining your reason for voting would suffice? I know you may not put much faith in my questioning, but it can't be that hard to give an answer.

idk i guess im a contrarian like that

VOTE: nosf

I mean if you actually answered people it wouldn't come to that.
So again why are you voting me?

why do you wanna know?

Because I like thought processes, but when you vote someone without a reason I can't see a thought process, I can't see what you're thinking, I can't figure out if it's scum voting someone or town voting someone. People voting without reasons are the most hardest to read imo.

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can you even read?

....
If you actually read malakittens posts which you probably haven't

I mean if you actually answered people it wouldn't come to that.

So again why are you voting me?

HERE'S A LESSON HOW YOU READ GARMR

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HERE'S A LESSON HOW TO READ GARMR

Fixed

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Believe it or not I intentionally caused malakittens to vote me

so one would think I have an idea of why she voted me.

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fuck it I'm not going to defend someone else. This isn't my battle and I'm not gonna defend the honor of some fucking rando

good night.

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I KNOW NOS

do what you want

dont involve me in your puny squabbles

im scumhunting on a higher plane

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That said, I was in a game recently where scum got nailed by prepping a bunch of posts in PT, copy/paste to main thread, but forgot to leave time between the posts so it was obvious they were paste jobs.

some people like ank get private pts every game to work posts tho

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I was one of the first to catch you last game.

you say that like its an accomplishment and im not the worst scum player alive

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@nosf
Can I ask why you felt the need to to try and counter my mala case earlier?

I can understand 728 being a misunderstanding town could make about mala's reads and you using bad logic which isn't really scummy. But you continued on trying to attack my case with stuff that wasn't relevant with out admitting that you were wrong earlier. It seems like you don't want me to start a wagon on mala despite with no actual grievance with the actual points of my case. You also continue to take jabs at me which feels like you just smear the case with a image instead of address it.


Why?

i still think im not wrong

i think its tiring to interact with you so im not going to

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VOTE: performer

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Hey Nos, do Garmr and you not get along like this usually?

i mean we don't have a history of being either friendly nor not friendly

i dont feel strongly about mala and garmr clearly does and i dont have the mental willpower to continue talking about it with him when im just gonna get bombarded with huge letters and dumbass points

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i responded cause to me he was so wrong but to him he's so right

so whats the point?

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Nah this is just a excuse since you didn't actually address my actual points in the first place. Which means you are either unable to comprehend them and get on my level or you tried to strawman me multiple times.

ur right its an excuse

i literally dont want to engage u

ur raw intellect is too much

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With Nos he dropped his vote and pressuring me as a scum read without notice

I wasn't ever scumreading you

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Hmmm I find it odd that nosf is followed purrcet onto to the same wagon pretty much straight away.

I find it odd that I voted a previously established scum read with a wagon as well.

idk why i did that

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It's more like a puzzle, point 1 and point 5 were like the corner puzzle pieces to work from. That's why I get better as days go on more peices.

I actually maintain point 5 was you catching me for a completely bs reason that was not based in fact.

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@purr
VOTE: dave

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It's more like a puzzle, point 1 and point 5 were like the corner puzzle pieces to work from. That's why I get better as days go on more peices.

I actually maintain point 5 was you catching me for a completely bs reason that was not based in fact.

i totally was coasting tho

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this is l2 right?

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UNVOTE:
ok
i mightve been wrong
this is good.

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leashing the vig sucks btw dont do that let dave shoot who he wants

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+1

he'll probably shoot ct or popo

maaybe hugo

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YOU KNOW WHAT

imma say garmr is town this game

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I'd say lynch CT shoot Nosferatu but dave is his own woman

id KILL for your scumhunting skills

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I'd say lynch CT shoot Nosferatu but dave is his own woman

Yeah No’s needs a reread from me sooner rather than later
there might be a connection to a past large game

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@purr
VOTE: dave

i think by not purrsuing performer it is a mistake also dave is on the side of people i semi townread

i mean like ive been liking performer's posts and that like never happens

id rather him over dave but like aldsknfln

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@nos what's the point of your continued back and forth with garm about how he caught you in a done game?? Starting to look like scum theater. Not sure if from you or garm or both. If both of you are town then it's tvt but at this point of my catchup, I think it's unlikely.

?
thats not a back and forth

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FYI Nos quoted something that was not there

THIS IS TRUE OMG

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ok @gamma i was referring to 601 which somehow became 579

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idk what nos town reads

idk what i tr in them either

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[quote="In post 1119, Garmr"][/quote]
STOP

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VOTE: performer
ill trust

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sometimes i want ct to flip just to shatter saudes reality

but i fear he might never recover

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i dont see how our scum ties are stopping me

scum can nightkill scum right?

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ill ask for that flavour specifically but i cant make promises

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I was 100% sure he would shoot me instead.

i wish he had

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scum is in {xoxo, akarin}
btw

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Actually how the fuck is pox7 a strange vigilante target? He was lurking and being unhelpful.

he was also obv town

mala was obv town too

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he was obv town and i said he was obv town before

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i wish i could revise yalls ability to play the game well

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BRUHHH

You’re lying to yourselves if you think for a second pox7’s play was in any way towny or beneficial to town
Nos I challenge you to tell how exactly pox7 was “towny”

You are unable to differentiate between trolling town and scum

that's ok

but don't say im being weird for your inability to read a slot.

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@Nos you have some messed up reads, are you town here? mala AND popo town? N O way.

mfw being right is messed up

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excellent observation

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i feel like im the town jester whose nobody listens to but then at the game end thread im just going to roast all of you for being super right

you're literally wrong but ok

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VOTE: performer

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lapsa throws shades @ ct
nos panics and votes performer???????????

its not really panicking if ive been deadass hard defending ct since d1

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Not my fault you cant solve a game by page 50

u didnt either

ur low content and ur reads suck

why do u even play at that rate

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HI NOSFORATU! I HAS NEWS FOR YOU!!1111

YOU DIDN'T VOTE MALA AND HAD HER IN YOUR TOWN READS122

CONGRATULATIONS

told yall not to lynch a slot for like a week

yall lynched the slot for garmrs dumb logic

"u cant comprehend my points so ur not responding" faceass lmao

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yeah alright

cause it makes sense for scum to leave a wagon because their supposed scumreads jump on

totally my dude

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im amazed u can stick to reasoning where the conclusion has been proven to be objectively false

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ah yes, the part that's always too loud when someone else is listening

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VOTE: tictac

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VOTE: ct

oi

make an effort

get on tic tac

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Completly Trustworthy(0)

Saudade(0)
Garmr(0)
Hugo Stiglitz(0)

Purrcocet(0)

Lapsa(0)

Gamma Emerald(0)

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oh cross out garmr

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N no we thought nosferatu was traitor

LOL I SUCK

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if there was no traitor i would have had the whole game today

but whatever, i got lead around by purr lmfaoo

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I told you ct was scum
Ya'll should've listened

like with ur constant bussing i thought u were so bad that u couldnt be scum

i gotta get better with that lol

Spoiler: my notes for this game at the end of d1 that informed most of my play

{ct, purrc, gamr, dave}
{popo, saud, mala, xoxo}
{hugo, akarin, lapsa}
{gamma}
{sajj, io}

gamma - will sort himself for the most part
popo - savage af, leave alive for as long as possible
purrc - need to sort but will probably just leave as town while he endgames my dumbass
ct - VI most likely VIVIVIVIVI
Ü - about to get replaced. Noob scum replace out?? nah
io - apparently being townread but doesn't do anything?? probably deep wolf candidate. leave that alone for a few days while she buses scum. let her into town bloc.
saud - VI town
sajj - coasting scum?
mala - seems town from wagon? Leaving vote cause scumreads joined is ++

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I'm straight fuvkingv

AMAZED we had an all town wagon
on town

fucking crazy

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i know yall dont care

but i woke up

saw that i had lost this game

said "oh jeez that sucks," and then went to class

only for my prof to tell me to drop his class lmfao

so like today is cancelled

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cause im a poorly adjusted self-destructive moron thats why

its totally my fault just

today lol

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Dude you ended up voting mala, me, tic. You checked me yet still voted me. You didn't even submit anything on n2 yet you were JOAT.

i voted mala to sort her
i told yall not to lynch her

i wanted to not vote u but purr was in my brain tbh

tic i actually just scumsided

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@nos

dw i feel let down too

by myself