NY 215: HMS Erebus - Game Over!

[Hugo Stiglitz]

sup fam. haven't read anything yet but just checking in. catching up now~

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Oh my god I can't get past page 2 lol
VOTE: CT
if anyone can summarize for me that'd be great but otherwise its gonna take me a long time to get caught up rn. going to a family dinner as i type so i'm reading EXTRA slow

[Hugo Stiglitz]

how many scum we agreeing on btw? I kinda assumed it was 3 but apparently this isn't a mini

3 is a decent amount to start with, I think I've seen more 3 scum 15ps than 4 scum 15ps

ok so, i'm here and this is really important to me right now because this is my first non newbie game and i had even asked the host where the setup is before subbing in. So the roles are basically 15 Any Alignments?? of course balanced. and it's just town and mafia right? i am on my phone now but i think I recall seeing that on the setup wiki was only red and green colors. Are there neutral or cult roles on this website? do they exist in this setup?

[Hugo Stiglitz]

+2 {Purr}

where did this 1 come from

You're good.
Plus you're like the only person not doing anything scummy at all.
Therefore you're the only really townie person.

Actually though gamma is looking like he may be +2 as well.
Also Nosfu's town again because 345 is actually pretty good to the point I don't see scum actually posting that.
All the more reason to kill Mala, she's the only one purely scummy.

but what if she's a SERIAL KILLER!! thank you emerald for this post~~

[Hugo Stiglitz]

seriously - let's lynch Gamma. I know dude is certainly capable of playing this game better

#77 - shitty reason for a vote

An explanation of why I suspect Umlaut (now Saudade):
So my first game with Umlaut I recall someone making a similar RVS vote. I don't recall the alignment of that person (my first thought is that they were probably town) but I do recall someone somewhere saying that sort of reasoning for an RVS vote is scummy.
I'm explaining this not so much to convince anyone as of yet, but more to open the discussion to where if I'm wrong, people can refute me.

^ I don't recall yet someone somewhere recalls someone making similar RVS vote and I'm not trying to convince anyone. Please refute me.

and that's that. there is no content whatsoever

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Woah, woah, wait. Is 192 a serious post and not a troll post??
VOTE: Gamma Emerald
i appreciate the helpful post but m8..

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Woah, woah, wait. Is 192 a serious post and not a troll post??

I have a hard time believing you just now parsed this.

i am playing 3 mafia games currently, and the two on this website are full of wallposts. i work f/t and own a house aka have to Do Everything Round Here™, yada yada yada i have a life etc etc
i didn't realize what i was getting into when i offered to replace here. but i ain't the type to back down now, my big bitch boots are on n they're not coming off.
gimme a break

pedit: also what popopopo just said

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Mod reminder:

8. I reserve the right to warn and replace players whom I believe are exploiting loopholes in the activity rules. Please note that players are expected to do more than the bare minimum as outlined by these prodding rules. I reserve the right to warn and/or replace players whom I believe are exploiting loopholes in the activity rules, or are otherwise not treating the game as the commitment they signed up for.Regardless of whether or not you actually post, you are expected to be reading the game to the best of your ability at all times.

(In other words, do not state that you have not been reading the game.)

O_O ok i have been reading tho,,it's just hard to process wallposts sometimes. plus i don't think a lot of it has been really AI

[Hugo Stiglitz]

ok so why does everyone think mala is scum?? about to do an iso on them now but 271 gives me town vibes

[Hugo Stiglitz]

ok actually...upon examining post 192 by gamma and looking further into gamma's iso, it makes sense and is up to snuff.
UNVOTE:
i don't think it is coming from a scum perspective, BUT i still do think scumhunting from rvs posts is dumb.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

ok so why does everyone think mala is scum?? about to do an iso on them now but 271 gives me town vibes

Can you expand on this a bit please?

4 of those replies were advancing the game instead of the stale one liners that most of those quotes are. I generally think that scums would kinda fluff the thread in a game so big to make it harder to find them.

& on another, but similar note, like ya everyone is going for popopopo but when I clicked on their iso button earlier they only had 11 posts, so I don't necessarily scum read them rn.
idk where everyone's votes are right now but what do you think about poopoo Dave? inb4 u already explained, gonna check now but if you haven't already pls feel free to share ur thoughts on that train

[Hugo Stiglitz]

ah yes, you did post a list of reads..got it.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

the chicken guy replaced?? wonder why.
i got prodded, i started to reread the thread and i got to page 15 last night. honestly, have a omgus vote for being rude VOTE: lapsa

[Hugo Stiglitz]

the chicken guy replaced?? wonder why.

not my fault you are unable to follow thread

That a scum slip?
Just did an iso, he did not ever indicate replacing out ITT
viewtopic.php?p=10435252&user_select%5B ... #p10435252
His iso

[Hugo Stiglitz]

speaking of which - I believe you lied about your mafia experience

lol plz elaborate

[Hugo Stiglitz]

the chicken guy replaced?? wonder why.
i got prodded, i started to reread the thread and i got to page 15 last night. honestly, have a omgus vote for being rude VOTE: lapsa

While that’s annoying that shouldn’t be why you vote him, there’s plenty of better reasons

idk man aren't we still in RVS lol
I can't really gauge without a flip my iq must not be high enough

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Just vote away, roll the dice.
Disregard the 35 page content right before your eyes

interesting reaction. how does that make you REALLY feel?

[Hugo Stiglitz]

I don't think I will get the lynch I want to day

I already came to that realization a while ago.
Sadly, it's just the two of us who can see the light.

yr prob my fav player for this

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Can someone comment on my case against Tictac and say whether they agree or disagree with my points? Its been ignored for some reason so far. Even if nobody is interested in voting him right now, I would still like to know where others stand.

i could go for a tictac lynch.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

@performer

Vote davesav if you wanna live.

@Everyone else vote Dave

VOTE: dave
can we just get to day 2 already please

[Hugo Stiglitz]

I liked Tictac's take on me in 942, it was different from other reads on me and seemed to be relatively well-reasoned. I still want to know their opinions on other players though, they still haven't given the readslist I asked for.

I didn't like 960, at the time Hugo probably thought it put Dave at L-1 due to what Nos said. It seemed odd that they voted for him at such an important moment after not talking about him for the entire game simply because they wanted day 2 to come. It seemed kind of lazy and expressed an apathetic attitude which you don't often see from townies interested in scumhunting.

Also, Dave, why is Garmr in your lynchpool, is it because he pushed you?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
i am lazy
and i can scumhunt better based on a flip with associations of voting
these longass day 1s kill me

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Juicy
UNVOTE:
Hope that's the right code

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Lol wow dave
you wouldn't shoot this kitty would you

Also gamma is worrying me

i keep waffling on your because of recent posts

but like now can we please get back on the gd performer wagon please and ty

VOTE: purrcocet

Seems to concerned over over if Dave will shot her. Also pandering to him ever since the vig claim

also not a fan of the "you wouldn't shoot this kitty would you" line
VOTE: purrcocet

[Hugo Stiglitz]

I think Performer is coming from a very town place, and I agree with Purr that the votes are prob scum driven. Doesn't really make sense to me why people kept piling on that train when there was Lapsa who voted up Dave after the vig claim. I think the day is ending soon and I relate to popo hard
VOTE: mala

[Hugo Stiglitz]

@performer

Vote davesav if you wanna live.

@Everyone else vote Dave

VOTE: dave
can we just get to day 2 already please

Lapsa r u talking about this?

[Hugo Stiglitz]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
i am lazy
and i can scumhunt better based on a flip with associations of voting
these longass day 1s kill me

Damn I also meant to quote this one.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

oh my god they killed POPO LMAO

[Hugo Stiglitz]

oops lol...............my bad @host.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Hugo, what conclusions have you drawn based on the recent flips?

ummm I don't know they just happened. There is a confirmed serial killer correct? I'm surprised dave didn't shoot, I was expecting him to confirm himself. Unless dave shot popo?

the popo flip literally gives no information as far as i know, but dave... :l it makes sense scum would want him dead (claim vig) but why no protect on him?!?! so disappointed

[Hugo Stiglitz]

VOTE: Hugo Stiglitz

Oh I thought you were talking about Saude there.
Why is "they" ping you as definate scum exactly?
It's pretty clear Hugo was talking about the very odd vigilante target.

how do you know it was vig? there's just role cards???

[Hugo Stiglitz]

@Purrcocet
The reason I held off voting you yesterday despite you appearing scummy was because your survival instinct kicking in could be something else. I thought there may be a off chance you are a town power role. So I wanted to see if you had results day 2 or not.

@hugo scum could of had a strong man or there is no protection role for town.

bummer
rip dave

Confirmed Serial Killer?
What?

Are you saying you're a Serial Killer?
Because I've never seen anything about a confirmed Serial Killer.

pretty sure Gamma said yesterday there's *usually* a serial killer in these setups? not that it's confirmed, but that we would find out if there was two kills or not. i don't know how this website works and if the way people die are revealed. on my homesite it is rarely revealed how people die.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

@Nos you have some messed up reads, are you town here? mala AND popo town? N O way.

There are still 3 people if I count right - tic, akarin, purr, who haven't said a word.

this GE push on Hugo is something though, with Hugo looking suspect. The tone of his posts strikes me as really off.

Who's tone, mine or GE?

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Why I moved off tic - to include a green flip (dave) in order of priority lynching, looks very specific to me and not something I think town garm does. So, I don't see this as a town mistake. As for why dave died, I thought it's because there's no protection in this setup. Garm went on to even speculate maybe there's a strongman - I've seen scum do things like this, speculate specific alternates and suddenly end of game, they end of having a strongman...I didn't even think of this other possibility but he brings it up so specifically.

so are u thinking garm is scumslipping here?

based off a skim of hugo's ISO, maybe tic & ct are actually town? thinking out loud here.

lol elaborate please.....?




special shout out 2 GE for making me look like a serial killer love it.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

ok so, i'm here and this is really important to me right now because this is my first non newbie game and i had even asked the host where the setup is before subbing in. So the roles are basically 15 Any Alignments?? of course balanced. and it's just town and mafia right? i am on my phone now but i think I recall seeing that on the setup wiki was only red and green colors. Are there neutral or cult roles on this website? do they exist in this setup?

I'll try to give a basic breakdown of what a normal game is. A normal game is (for the most part) a closed setup (so only basic things like the existence of a town and mafia side are known) with specific rules as to what may or may not be included. When it comes to alignments, normals can have only town, mafia, and

serial killer. Serial killer can only appear in larges (it wasn't always like this but new changes made it this way).

The can be two mafia factions as well, but that's also exclusive to larges. Sine this is 15 players, this is a large,

and as such could include a serial killer

or second mafia faction (I say or because both would probably be a nightmare to balance). As for "how many mafia", the basic formula is this: take the amount of player slots in the game, divide it by 4, and that's ABOUT what to expect for the amount of mafia if there's one mafia team. So 15/4=3.75, but in practice I've seen a lot more 3 mafia setups than 4 mafia setups when it comes to 15 player games.

I have only discussed serial killer because of this first post directed at me. Thank you @ Io for being the only person who understands.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

VOTE: davesaz

still don't like this vote on dave right after he claimed vig, Lapsa also was second to last to vote Mala, so they were safe from being the "hammer" vote
VOTE: Lapsa

[Hugo Stiglitz]

VOTE: Hugo Stiglitz

Nice OMGUS vote.

VOTE: davesaz

still don't like this vote on dave right after he claimed vig, Lapsa also was second to last to vote Mala, so they were safe from being the "hammer" vote
VOTE: Lapsa

Is there a reason Lapsa's vote on Dave strikes you as scummier than various other times Lapsa voted for people?

Ya............like I literally just explained.......Lapsa voted Dave after Dave claimed vig...

[Hugo Stiglitz]

fine with this
VOTE: Saudade

could go 4 hugo as well

lol
my strategy is to omgus all game
VOTE: tictac

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Despite the weirdness around the wagon yesterday, Gamma's townpinging me like crazy today.

I don't know if that's her investigative result.

How does knowing if someone has a gun make them clear or not? I understand if she found a vigilante. Do the mafia get to send someone for factional kill, meaning all of them have guns?

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Despite the weirdness around the wagon yesterday, Gamma's townpinging me like crazy today.

I don't know if that's her investigative result.

How does knowing if someone has a gun make them clear or not? I understand if she found a vigilante. Do the mafia get to send someone for factional kill, meaning all of them have guns?

All mafia/scum have guns unless they are mafia doctor. She was informed that mafia have no doctor so anyone with out a gun will be clear.

Nice! I just finished a newbie game where the worst thought they were cop cleared from breadcrumbing, but the cop actually never investigated the worst, they investigated the player that died that night.....so as much as I want to trust this clear, I can't.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

I'm going to finally sit down and do a vote analysis during lunch or after work. We should definitely have some information revealed by voting by now.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Is there a reason for the Saudade hate?

I also wish we could also get some reasoning behind today's votes. Not that Saudade has provided clear reasoning behind his CT tunnel all game either ( I solved the game in a few hours , theres only one scum guise!! )

[Hugo Stiglitz]

I'm in the middle of vote analysis right now. Still on day 1.

Cool, I'll do mine without reading yours and see if we come up with similar conclusions.

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Maaaaaaaan, I wrote up this awesome vote analysis and the thread was closed. Whatever. I was probably LVP after popo this game. Interesting that mafia thought it was Nos, I wonder if they knew they had a traitor at least? Cos u guys knew there was a 4th? idk. At least I was too scummy to be NK'd and ez bus lynch during day.
This is my last game on this site(not that anyone cares), bye! lol

Would you say I did well at being scum Garmr? I felt like I was really bad at looking like town throughout the game with so many people being suspicious of me.

I thought you did well, I was getting suspicious of you too, but you were further down the list as just a not-townread. My Night 1 investigation debate was between Saudade and Gamma (I was ruling out anyone I thought Dave might vig), my Night 2 was between Purr and Saudade.

I was sure Performer and then Hugo would be the vig targets...

Popo then me. I'm surprised other vig didnt shoot me

I saw this DJ live like 2 weeks ago! weird lol.

mmk. think that's all i had to say.
someone said it right when they said they were SR me for all the wrong reasons. like not understanding the setup. omegalul