Open 734: Paris Mafia (13-player variation) - Game Over

[Kmd4390]

Vote Count

No Lynch - 1 - Thor665

Not Voting - Jingle, GuiltyLion, RockyHorror, Eragon, Fink, Nero Cain, Aristophanes, innocentvillager

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline is Monday September 24 at 5PM EST.

[Jingle]

VOTE: No lynch

[Fink]

We should seriously make sure everyone has time to post at least once before NLing

[Aristophanes]

We should seriously make sure everyone has time to post at least once before NLing

To what end? If this is the game strat it doesnt matter if we check in or not lol

[Jingle]

In case watcher has useful information to out.

Also of note, KMD allows people to PM him saying they're fine ending the night early each night. We can get through nightphases faster if people do so.

Speccing whether mime hit vig/mafia is bad, especially when there's also the chance that both vig and mafia hit FAQ2.

[GuiltyLion]

Checking in
VOTE: no lynch

[Aristophanes]

Waiting on Rocky, Nero, and IV.

[GuiltyLion]

We should seriously make sure everyone has time to post at least once before NLing

To what end? If this is the game strat it doesnt matter if we check in or not lol

Also in case I die this is a super scummy post

it's like Ari isn't thinking at all from town perspective of having watcher info

[Aristophanes]

We should seriously make sure everyone has time to post at least once before NLing

To what end? If this is the game strat it doesnt matter if we check in or not lol

Also in case I die this is a super scummy post

it's like Ari isn't thinking at all from town perspective of having watcher info

Meh? Night play games are less interesting in general, which is something I've come to appreciate when making setups of my own. It took me some time to understand it, but I niw try ti make games that are more day oriented bevause nighttime fun is solely for the mid and spectators, not the players.

Call it scummy if you like.

[Thor665]

Why join in on this game if you believe that though? It's a pretty heavy night play game to begin with, compounded sharply if a Mime is lynched.

[Aristophanes]

Why join in on this game if you believe that though? It's a pretty heavy night play game to begin with, compounded sharply if a Mime is lynched.

Mostly because KMD really needed replacements and I hadn't read the setup. I'm happy to keep playing and if this is best strat then sobe it, I'll happily go along with it! I just didn't expect so much NLing.

Hopefully Maf or Vig can get the Mime tn so we can scumhunt again

[Thor665]

There is nothing preventing scumhunting - only lynching.

[Jingle]

Meh? Night play games are less interesting in general, which is something I've come to appreciate when making setups of my own. It took me some time to understand it, but I niw try ti make games that are more day oriented bevause nighttime fun is solely for the mid and spectators, not the players.

/offtopic

Neighborhood oriented and role madness games can mitigate this severely. As long as everyone has something they can be doing during the night they're less likely to get disengaged and not care, even if that something is just having another player to talk about the thread with.

Additionally, rulesets like KMD's where a unanimous agreement by PM to shorten nights can help if the players take advantage of it, as can short night deadlines.

Mountainous, on the other hand is crazy boring and ALL about dayplay. Fun setups are all about balance between the two.

[innocentvillager]

VOTE: no lynch

[Nero Cain]

Mountainous, on the other hand is crazy boring and ALL about dayplay. Fun setups are all about balance between the two.

I

slightly

disagree. Its been a thing forever and its even more common now days but there are lots of town players that are "bored" unless they have a PR. Its really really dumb though.

[Thor665]

Mountainous is my favorite setup.
I agree with everything Nero said in 739 outside of the 'slightly' though

[Fink]

Could we get a prod on Rocky please?

RockyHorror has been prodded.

[Jingle]

Mountainous is my favorite setup.
I agree with everything Nero said in 739 outside of the 'slightly' though

Maybe in F2F.

And to be fair I said

can

mitigate this, not that they’re the only or even best answer.

Personally my favorite games to play are closed multi ball with almost no power (vig or cop or doc, but that’s about it), or arbitrarily complicated messes where pretty much no one has any clue what’s going on. I’ll admit the latter probably aren’t fun for a lot of people though.

[Aristophanes]

Jingle, it'd be cool to continue theory talk after the game

There is nothing preventing scumhunting - only lynching.

Sure there is! If we scumhunt wothout lynching we either let scum guide the Vig or show our hands and get NK'd.

Just waiting on Rocky?

[Jingle]

Yeah, rocky has hammer here.

[Thor665]

There is nothing preventing scumhunting - only lynching.

Sure there is! If we scumhunt wothout lynching we either let scum guide the Vig or show our hands and get NK'd.

How are scum guiding the vig? The vig is guiding the vig.
If you're fine with the idea of lynching, I fail to see why you're scared to 'show your hand' without a lynch. Express scumreads if you want them to be considered, or stay quiet - but don't act like only a lynch would allow you to express reads.

[Aristophanes]

Okie, I feel like Rocky is scum and GL may be as well.

Nero seems to be along for the ride and IV I forget is here most of the time.
Fink is null.

You, Jingle, and especially Eragon are towny and I'm nit wanting you to die anytime soon.

Now scum know my reads and can shoot with them in mind, and if I am scum I may have just put an idea in the Vig's mind that wasn't already there. Thats the danger. It's better than nithing I guess tho!

For the record, these reads were formed in my quick reads of D2 and the end of D1, reinforced by today's posting.

Does any of this help anything?

[Aristophanes]

Sorry. I'm being a giant whiney child this game for whatever reason.

*sigh*

[Jingle]

Interesting. I don’t think gl is likely groupscum, though it is possible he’s a mime.

Do you have reasoning for rocky scum you care to share?

[Nero Cain]

y is eragon townie?