2018 NFL Football

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You're using statistics incorrectly

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Philly jumping Dallas to draft Dallas to spite Dallas man what a meme

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Shaquem Griffin to Seattle is all that matters go Knights!

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Alternatively: outcoach the fuck out of other teams and get a bit lucky.

Parity is good because it makes things entertaining over a long term, but the cost is pretty explicitly making building of dynasties hard.

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Also fuck the Pats

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but the cost is pretty explicitly making building of dynasties hard.

well its a lot more about underpaying athletes that seriously fuck up their health, but no one really cares about that end of the stick

True. I mostly watch MLS where that isn't an issue because players can go to other places to make more.

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but the cost is pretty explicitly making building of dynasties hard.

well its a lot more about underpaying athletes that seriously fuck up their health, but no one really cares about that end of the stick

True. I mostly watch MLS where that isn't an issue because players can go to other places to make more.

This seems a lot like willful ignorance given the players that make up the MLS.

If they are good enough to earn more elsewhere, they can. A number of American players make artificially more by being in the MLS relative to what they made in Europe (Altidore, Bradley, etc)

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A decent MLS player can play in the 2 bundesliga or championship (on a mid-table team)

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Hard disagree. Employees are exercising their rights.

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The protests are a part of football rn.

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but I would guess there are reasons for tension between blacks and police besides racism.

No it's literally because cops shoot black people for shits and giggles and black people don't like that.

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Like remember the idiot jock bullies from high school? Those are the people who become cops. Good, smart people do better things with their lives.

We need to stop glorifying police. They are systemically rotten and full of rotten individuals

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https://twitter.com/LacesOutShow/status ... 8574638082

Nah I'm fine with this and he should watch porn beforehand next year

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Who is excited for Jax to win their first Superb Owl

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Why yes it is just shitty rugby

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Jax is where it's at. Bortles is a god.

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Bortles is a god.

r u ok

Yes

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Bortles's "25-going-on-40" aesthetic is very my type

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Rude Bortles is the future

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Bortles is better than al of them

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Man his hatred of Bortles is more irrational than my love of him

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P E T E R M A N

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Actually the idea that Bortles isn't a starting-caliber QB is pretty laughable

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Ben was not good last year tho.

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But yeah Pitt is a contender.

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Jax vs Iggles SB let's go

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6-10 at best because the team is talented, 0-16 at worst because the team has Hue

0-16 tbh

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How do those fuckos have multiple SB wins lol

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It's a tragedy that Brady doesn't have 7.

It's a tragedy that Brady has any

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It's really a tragedy that NE sports are allowed to exist

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Too bad NYC has won more championships

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Even if you remove the 2nd teams in NYC

The Yankees just have a stupid number of World Series wins

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Why do we have so many Raiders fans???

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Anyways the nice part of growing up in SF during the Bonds/Kent era was that it was very easy to justify not caring about the 49ers

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Raiders are still like bottom 5

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Alternatively - raise your Bortles!

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Dudes gonna be a monster. When your problem for rugby* is "you're too big," of course the solution is going to the only sport where being bigger is good.

*league, which is barely real rugby

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Dudes gonna be a monster. When your problem for rugby* is "you're too big," of course the solution is going to the only sport where being bigger is good.

*league, which is barely real rugby

didn't that other rugby dude crash out of the league?

he was trying to be an RB
this guy has the measurables and athleticism of a Left Tackle grown in a lab
he's a freaking beast
and he's learning from JP and Stoutland
quickly

Idk about the other guy that much, but being an RB in the NFL requires a very different athleticism to being a rugby player because of the fact that in the NFL you basically don't need cardio

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The Browns always find the most creative ways to fail.

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It's funny because there are guys who've been in the league for way longer

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Vinatieri, on the other hand...

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You can no longer sack QBs the NFL cares about because Rodgers got hurt

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He's been in the NFL for as long as some players have been alive at this point

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like tbf kickers and QBs have the ability to last the longest because, like, they don't really have to move. Speed goes down with age a lot faster than strength (and QBs can afford to lose a bit of arm strength if they can make up for it in other ways)

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Also not getting beat up literally every play helps.

Or, like, ever, in the case of kickers.

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The funnier part in Vinatieri's case was that he was literally 1 kick away from getting cut in 1996 in which case holy fuck does history change.

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If the Steelers make playoffs this year it's because their division is soft af

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The entire division is hot garbo

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Rams vs Jags SB calling it now

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Ravens are solid.

This is aging well...

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Ah yes because how the Ravens were in 2012 is relevant to how good they are now.

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Jags are best and Bortles is the franchise qb

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I think the AFC are chasing the Chiefs after two weeks, but the Jags are nice.

It's too bad defense is a thing

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I think the AFC are chasing the Chiefs after two weeks, but the Jags are nice.

It's too bad defense is a thing

It's too bad offense is a thing

Yeah 51 points in 2 games?

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Bengals might be an overreaction because I honestly can't tell anyone how good the Ravens or Colts are. Broncos Def beat 2 bad teams. Bucs beat 2 good teams tho.

Garbo and slightly better than garbo.

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Like, what the jags have rn is:

1) Probably the best D in the league
2) Very good o-line
3) An incredible, but injury-prone, RB
4) Two promising, but raw, receivers in Cole and Westbrook. ASJ is also a solid catch-passing TE.
5) A QB that people meme about being terrible but who's actually pretty much average other than having the third-highest yards per carry for QB of all QBs ever.

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I will take "best defense in league and probably top-third offense" over the rest of the AFC.

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Also the NFC looks better this year (again)

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Rams/Jags SB or TB/Jags SB?

Which is more memes?

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Yeah Bortles is capable of actual mediocrity (like against the Giants wk1)

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Apparently he wants to go to the Jags

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Well fuck the Patriots' plot armor they just made their team an actual favorite for SB.

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If im the Jags I'm giving a conditional 4th lol

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Gordon is a huge upgrade at WR1 and yes NE has a Garbo d

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Yeah but Bortles is a poor-man's Nick Foles.

is Bortles really as streaky as Foles?
Foles only seems to have two settings, shite and GOAT

To be fair, I think his ceiling is like, poor man's Alex Smith...and Smith is pretty good.

Why are you Bortlephobic

How dare you insult the BOAT that way.

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Alex Smith is a compliment, you shut your mouth.

Objectively yes but let me have my memes

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Honestly for me the biggest thing in a QB is consistency. Yeah, it's cool when a guy like Foles balls out and destroys a team, but it's hard to gameplan around "sometimes is literal garbage."

What makes Brady and Rodgers so great is that "good" is their floor (Brady's numbers in the loss to the Jags were still pretty good), but they can ball out and win games. Guys like Wilson and Stafford can ball out just as well, but holy shit their floors are dumpster fires. I prefer Bortles to those guys because he (at least in the past season) has shown that he'll never cost his team the game, which is basically cost of admission for being a QB for me (also why I'm high on Goff and especially Smith, in the grand scheme of things)

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Keenum is above the line IMO

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If your goal is "win a super bowl" keenum is good enough and also cheap enough that you can win with other pieces

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BB5

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I still maintain that Brady retires this season if he gets a ring.

Kill me pls

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NE needs to go back to being the spooky team we make fun of for being bad

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New England is the new Jacksonville?

I would make fun of you for being young and not remembering the beforetimes when NE was the joke team of the league, but I too am too young to remember.

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No Fournette + ass playcalling, and defense still held them to 9

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If he does he's literally the GOAT

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Llanelli and Jax both losing this weekend is like worst weekend ever

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I still stand by Rams/Jags SB

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I'd say rn:

1) Jags (d is god tier and offense with Fournette is good enough)
2) KC (offense is god-tier but d is hot garbo)
3) idk Miami maybe???

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Afc teams just all feel kind of bad

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Llanelli and Jax both losing this weekend is like worst weekend ever

Llanelli = Scarlets I presume?

Yes

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Re KC I don't trust teams that can't play d to actually be good

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New England is the new Jacksonville?

I would make fun of you for being young and not remembering the beforetimes when NE was the joke team of the league, but I too am too young to remember.

What if the before-times are coming back???

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New England is the new Jacksonville?

I would make fun of you for being young and not remembering the beforetimes when NE was the joke team of the league, but I too am too young to remember.

What if the before-times are coming back???

Update: they aren't and the pats are at-worst a mediocre team.

Which is still too good

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Jags 2nd half has been better but yeah seems like Chiefs > Jags (w/o Fournette at least but Yeldon was very not the problem this game)

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The problem is that rn it seems like there's a 50% chance Bortles plays like a god and a 50% chance he's ass and also lol the receivers.

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Hot take: NE is bad

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Jags need to fix their playcalling and stop getting hurt.

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His case against the NFL is just clips of Peterman playing

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Definitely not tanking

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Yeah Eagles are trying to win this year again and Tate in the slot is an upgrade over Agholor.

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That said this is a bad year to try to win. Just let the Rams have the SB

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How are the Raiders this bad?

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Carr is donezo >.>

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Pay me to just hand the ball to Shady over and over again TBH

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I have never played a game of competitive football and think I could outperform Peterman. My passing range is line 20 yards but hey I won't throw constant pick-6es

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IMO the Rams are still the overall better team

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Cooks/Woods/Goff/Gurly is a lot scarier than Gordon/Edelman/Gronk/Michel, especially as Gronk continues to break.

Mostly it's the last two in the attacking threats that makes the Rams scarier. Gordon/Edelman is better than Cooks/Woods

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Rams are the best team in the NFL don't @me

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LAR vs KC

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Rams are the best team in the NFL don't @me

Just like how the Jags are the best in the AFC!

Honestly haven't seen a team so spectacularly collapse.

Injuries have been a bit of a bitch, but that team is playing a lot worse than they should.

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Actually wait that's a lie Orlando City and FC Dallas do it every year.

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Still the Jags are playing like ass and it seems like Marone has completely lost the locker room.

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Yeah the Jags have leadership/ego problems and the offense going from somewhat better than average to below average with Fournette/O-Line injuries tilted the D super hard.

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Also the Jags playcalling has been incredibly uncreative at times.

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I don't think anyone said anything remotely close to that though.

It's a reference to the LoL Esports thread where I bantzed PJ about how Korea (and China minus IG) flame out at Worlds.

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There are only 2 good refs in all sports globally, and they're both in rugby union. This isn't an NFL-specific problem.

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That said NFL refs are among the worst.

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I don't think that the refs are bad. I think the rules are bad.

NFL refs consistently shit the bed, although the rules certainly don't help

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RIP Bortles

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Dickson's attempted drop-kick for an onside kick was hilarious when that shit doesn't work in football because the fair catch rule exists.

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It was also a terrible kick holy fuck. Harder to do with a football than a rugby ball for sure, but he didn't get nearly as far under it as he needed to.

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The fair catch rule doesn't apply to dropkicks because the ball touches the ground before the kick, making it a live ball.

I feel like this is wrong? The drop kick on the kickoff is just a direct replacement for the tee.

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Also Jesus gridiron having rugby's rules for aerial contests terrifies me.

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Not surprising outcomes, but fuck the Pats. Boston doesn't deserve to have nice things, and fuck those cheaters.

KC hopefully grinds NE into the ground. Rooting for the Rams over the Saints, but pretty okay with either of them winning.

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I can't wait for the Patriots to go back to being that spooky team that always has terrible seasons.