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-Tone, especially exiting RVS (silly in a way scum is usually too nervous to be in my experience)
-If RC is town, you're town for being early to refuse to lynch him. If RC is scum, I won't know until tomorrow, and you still might be town for refusing to lynch him. Meh this is weak but it affected my read so there it is
-96 (about Gamma) and 130 (about Alchemist) were my exact same reactions
-You asking why you're town
pedit: yeah I kno better than to try to read RC. I'll read RC by voting who he says to vote and lynching him if it's green
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Who ya got so farIn post 456, Majiffy wrote:
Haven't settled on a good scumread yet. Been town hunting to narrow the fieldIn post 453, Irrelephant11 wrote:I can always catch up later I want to play in real time
RC why is majiffy scum?
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willing to bet this is SvS, regardless of RC's lynchbait read on both slotsIn post 463, Gamma Emerald wrote:@MaruchanIn post 58, Gamma Emerald wrote:what’s to indicate which [flavor names] are scum?
I've done this "hey, hey you, answer me, hey you! yeah you answer me!"/"..." scum theater, it's super easy bussing
Like maybe it's the two of them with alch and whoever else, and alch is scummy enough to sheep onto rn but I'm unclear what about these slots is towny enough to you (@RC) to rule them out and say with such confidence that it's alchemist
I guess it doesn't matter since if it's because you're scum I'll just find out post flip
But if you felt like educating lil ol me about it that would be a ball
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hmm.In post 838, Pure Sadness wrote:
chamber didn't answer questions, people are voting majiffy.In post 835, Irrelephant11 wrote:Catching up here soon. Anyone want to tell me what I missed/talk about it?
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- Because the paranoia was fake and went away the moment RC said he stopped scumreading MariaIn post 881, Gamma Emerald wrote:Having to respond on mobile and lack the time to pare down the quote wall by Irrel so copy/pasted segments it is
Why am I scum for expressing paranoia? MariaR is good at reading me but it felt like I’d not done enough for her to get a read on me. Her explanation was sufficient FYI.Regardless of whether RC/Maria is tvt or svs this is such a scummy post
Well it can be won by not using associatives I am fairly certain, but I’m dead sure associations can make it much harder to win if we mislynch today. Someone made a post detailing this in the first few pages iirc.I don't see how this game can be won without associative reading though
Scummy suggestion
In order for me to be intentionally TWTBAWing I’d have to be acting flagrantly scummy, which I most certain am not. This feels notoriously like a “no u” post which means you’ve outed yourself as a shitty debater.lol that's you
- It's not like scum can remove their D1 associations. Caught scum will remain caught in D2 when I look back and reread
- Honestly I haven't townread like anything you've said and I feel like you're backing it up with this self-righteous tone as if it's insane I'm scumreading you - for which I'm scumreading you
...alright this argument is boring me now. I mean go ahead and argue so I can sort you both but for now I'll just accept chamber is hard to read (especially since I don't think I'm townreading chickadee)In post 882, Chickadee wrote:
True, but it comes off as more of a challenge. "Try and prove I'm not town" implies you think we should be town reading you.In post 876, chamber wrote:Asking why someone is town is asking for town tells.
Asking why someone is not town is asking for scum tells.
Are you gaslighting me or illiterate?
K VOTE: GammaIn post 884, Majiffy wrote:
Go onIn post 860, chamber wrote:
Worst post in the game.In post 754, Majiffy wrote:I'm just not interested in a D1 Chickadee wagon she's got 4 teammates why don't you help me figure them out RC
I think Gamma is one.
Join me on Gamma thenIn post 864, Irrelephant11 wrote:Gamma is still the scum who scummed in scumville
Glad to see you still remember me ;DIn post 877, Titus wrote:Unless someone wants to Argue Alch with Jiffy, I think I will pass for now on major wagons.
Alch wagon built over like 5 days, mine peaked in a dayIn post 880, MariaR wrote:Jiffy wagon felt town driven to me with how it was slowly building compared to alch wagon that happened a lot more easier.
What the fuck are you smoking and can you please share
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In post 890, Irrelephant11 wrote:@Mod when you posted the vc I think I should have been on chamber
@chamber then why are you not voting majiffySorry I apparently never did post a vote on chamber, ignore me
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Tries to call himself conftown for "not knowing the setup"In post 266, Gamma Emerald wrote:
And RC if I’m scum explain this.In post 228, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I’ll stop with the attacks but lol k how do I go unaware like that if I’m scum? I’d have the info in my fucking role PM.In post 222, Majiffy wrote:
No one is confirmed townIn post 219, Gamma Emerald wrote:
But hey guess what fucker: I’m practically conftown.In post 172, Maruchan wrote:
I see you're as bad at reading Mod OP's, Mod Posts concerning a game you are in, and Sample Role PMs as you are about reading the signatures of people you anti-nom titles for based off of never having ever interacted with them ever.In post 72, Gamma Emerald wrote:
NvmIn post 59, Gamma Emerald wrote:Where does it actually SAY the setup?
Also please stop with the personal attacks.
Badgers Maruchan but never votes him or tries to get others to see his way about the slot; reads svs or maybe just trying to look towny by chasing lynchbait (maru is harder to read because v/la)In post 463, Gamma Emerald wrote:@MaruchanIn post 58, Gamma Emerald wrote:what’s to indicate which [flavor names] are scum?
more of thatIn post 577, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Gfdi I hope you’re scumIn post 546, Maruchan wrote:Yeah at 22 pages in less than 24 hours and I have a 16 hour drive coming up Sunday morning I cdnt denote the time to this genre
I already V/LA'd in my first post but apparently that isn't enough for some of y'all to realize I would be largely not here this weekend so
@xyzzy this started about a week earlier than I could handle so unless you're OK with me just not posting for the first week and ignoring all pages of content that happen on said week I'm gonna have to replace out.
I can't play this from mobile and I can't sit in my hotel room all day every day for the next 3 days
Tries to prevent associative readingIn post 635, Gamma Emerald wrote:BTW just a reminder to lay off the associatives
bolded partIn post 733, Gamma Emerald wrote:I won’t deny that is an OMGUS vote
I will state that came from out of the blue and with several people having gone after me beforeit feels like I’m the dedicated mislynch.
this whole postIn post 739, Gamma Emerald wrote:The only way my vote goes on Chick is if you can tie her being scum to my being chosen as the dedicated ML.
Has shown multiple times an uncooperative spirit and then says this to chamber (just look at the number of arguments he's made personal in his ISO)In post 803, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Mafia is a team game. Why take such an individualistic approach?In post 802, chamber wrote:I know the newer players focus way more on town telling and building functional groups or w/e. That's not me. Everyone is scum to differing degrees. That doesn't mean I can't work with people, but the people reaching out to me are not the people I have any desire to work with. I'm waiting on Titus's catchup and for other people to post more.
Says I'm " outed as a shitty debater" because I'm obvtown and he wants to discredit me (obviously a stronger point fmpov but)In post 881, Gamma Emerald wrote:Having to respond on mobile and lack the time to pare down the quote wall by Irrel so copy/pasted segments it is
Why am I scum for expressing paranoia? MariaR is good at reading me but it felt like I’d not done enough for her to get a read on me. Her explanation was sufficient FYI.Regardless of whether RC/Maria is tvt or svs this is such a scummy post
Well it can be won by not using associatives I am fairly certain, but I’m dead sure associations can make it much harder to win if we mislynch today. Someone made a post detailing this in the first few pages iirc.I don't see how this game can be won without associative reading though
Scummy suggestion
In order for me to be intentionally TWTBAWing I’d have to be acting flagrantly scummy, which I most certain am not. This feels notoriously like a “no u” post which means you’ve outed yourself as a shitty debater.lol that's you-
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lol
If I were scum picking three townies to get on a mislynch why would I choose those three?
I had a feeling Invi might say no
Penguin has only expressed doubt about me me
Dunnstral is way too strong a player to sheep me thoughtlessly
Come to think of it why would I only appeal to three players? Does this idea also assume the wagon I'm going for will be three townies and myself and my four scum buddies all on the mislynch wagon? This makes no sense as a scum play
The simple answer is I'm appealing to my three strongest townreads to vote my strongest scumread.
Re: the post above
-It's my current interpretation and nothing you've said or shown me has given me reason to doubt it
-I don't know what you're saying here, it doesn't seem like it has to do with the point I made about associations? I think I really just don't understand you here.
-I'm not sure what you're saying here, either... That you'd accept a scumread if it were "better" somehow?
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In post 889, chamber wrote:
no.In post 887, Irrelephant11 wrote:majiffy's clearly town based on wagon movementIn post 890, Irrelephant11 wrote:@Mod when you posted the vc I think I should have been on chamber
@chamber then why are you not voting majiffy
I read this first post here as "No, majiffy is not town" --> a confident scumreadIn post 910, chamber wrote:
It's possible to think someone isn't confirmed town, and also not think they are the best lynch choice. In fact that currently describes everyone that isn't myself and isn't chickadee. What the hell was this question?In post 890, Irrelephant11 wrote:@chamber then why are you not voting majiffy
Not voting majiffy (a viable wagon) from there didn't make sense to me
I get it now-
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Please link me to itIn post 909, Gamma Emerald wrote:Oh my fucking god is Irrel scumreading me for calling myself the dedicated mislynch
I’ve done that same thing as town before
And guess what Einstein? Scum have pushed me for it before. Nice job on making it easy to catch you.
obvtown =/= conftownIn post 911, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also how have I been uncooperative and how the fuck does Irrel think he’s obvtown, and if he thinks he’s obvtown why’s he scumreading me for thinking I might be evidently town?
I think I'm pretty obviously town based on how hard it would be for me to feel as comfortable as I do if I were scum :shrug:
I don't think you're anywhere near conf!town, and you claiming that you are because you didn't know the setup info reads scummy and fake-
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mm okay I missed this context here when iso-ing youIn post 915, Gamma Emerald wrote:In post 586, MariaR wrote:
You're overly sensitiveIn post 585, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I’m not asking for meta I’m asking what in this game makes you TR meIn post 584, MariaR wrote:You're right that if I ml someone I just move on with my day whoops. (good pizza btw)
Gamma you're town cause I say so friend. I won't out me meta on you. If you wanna sr me for tring you by all means go for it
This is when I changed my mind about Maria trying to pocket meIn post 587, Gamma Emerald wrote:Also could you E-send me some pizza cos I have sandwiches practically every day and it can get boring
PEdit: ok
I still think both you and Maria are townreading each other too easily on the whole
But this point is now more associative for Maria than singularly scumtelling for you so I'll drop it for now-
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ummm a lot
it's been pretty chaotic
some of the things include:
-RC tried to get kingmade and lynch alchemist but at L-1 switched wagons and then replaced out (Titus)
-Majiffy also has tried to play king and it has been much less successful, instead earning themselves votes
-Chamber has been (intentionally?) hard to read
-Gamma tried to call himself conftown for "slipping" that he didn't know the setup
-maru has been scummy but RC was confident the slot was lynchbait
-chickadee has played scummy too and RC was confident before replacing out that that should have been the lynch, not alch
-Basically no wagon except the alchemist/majiffy ones have gotten very high
-invis and vonflare have had very similar spamposty but more-towny-than-not games, helping wagon players and being v interactive
-dunnstral and penguin have shown enough insightfulness and genuine sorting ability that I think they're both town
-MariaR is a slot in this game. She hard townread Gamma early which I still don't fully understand (it's mostly for secret meta reasons, apparently) and argued with RC a lot. I don't remember what else she did lately
-idk who else is in the game rn
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idk if you two townread each other yet but please get on the same pageIn post 966, Majiffy wrote:Chickalynch is dumbb with 2bs cuz it's that bad
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Mm I guess I worded it wrong. "Nervous" wouldn't really describe his play per se
I think the fact that he is more emotional this game than others I've played with him shows he has more *feelings* and more readily *feels attacked*
For me, playing as town is less emotional because my death has lower stakes
Playing as scum (and sometimes pr) makes me more readily get angry/nervous/skittish/upset etc because of the natural feeling of guilt/fear that comes with being assigned the role of liar, and the survivalism I have to embody well to win
pedit: I think RC said a lot, so I'm including a lot of what he said in my summary
I'm sheeping Penguin onto Chickadee because I townread Penguin ~same I townread Majiffy and I also scumread Chick ~same as I scumread Gamma (given the conversation he and I had that did diffuse part of my scumread on him)-
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Regardless I don't think he's scumhunting much for how long his ISO is and I still think it's scummy to call oneself conftown for a "townslip" (if someone else calls him that, maybe, but this shows he's too self-aware of the "slip") and to call oneself the designated mislynch (something he references his town meta for, but again he is too self-aware about that meta to really use it as proof of townyness, it's nai at best and scummy at worst. I'm leaning the latter)
I would still join a Gamma wagon but I'm interested in this chickadee wagon for now, especially given it was RC's last words and RC's slot is hard to sort
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Yes, I townread Majiffy for having the confidence to put himself forward as the one to make the choice after RC had already done so. Given RC dropped his own wagon at L-1, I feel more confident in Majiffy being the townie genuinely wanting to build an all-town wagon and less confident RC was that townie (regardless of alchemist's alignment)-
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If Alch is scum, scum!RC had to abandon the wagon eventuallyIn post 1030, Chara wrote:
make what choice?In post 987, Irrelephant11 wrote:Yes, I townread Majiffy for having the confidence to put himself forward as the one to make the choice after RC had already done so. Given RC dropped his own wagon at L-1, I feel more confident in Majiffy being the townie genuinely wanting to build an all-town wagon and less confident RC was that townie (regardless of alchemist's alignment)
i understand this (well, partially) if you think Alch is scum, but if he's town, i'd say it says a lot about RC's alignment.
If Alch is town, scum!RC asked to be BoP'd, so he had to change gears to sheeping someone else eventually
Town!RC would towncase Alchemist if he really thought it was the wrong wagon - but also what do I know I've been proven to be bad at reading RC
The "choice" being today's lynch
Beautiful!In post 1048, PenguinPower wrote:
Um...you know me. I don't do reads.In post 1042, Alisae wrote:Usually when someone asks that they want to know what your reads are and they don't want just a yes. Might just be me tho
Not really.In post 1043, Invisibility wrote:can you explain them in picture form
Definitely not.In post 1044, Invisibility wrote:or video form
Oh...well, why didn't you say so. You may have my rainbow reads.In post 1045, Invisibility wrote:btw ur getting a grade on this
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{Maruchan}
{Chickadee}
But also wtf
-Why is chamber so high?
-Do you think the four scumreads are scum together? because I will gladly vote anyone other than me that you have below null
-Why so many nulls?
lolIn post 1101, Majiffy wrote:
CorrectIn post 1080, chamber wrote:I feel like my posts aren't easy to grok.
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I just don't actually understand anyone who has him higher than null. I think his slot is confusing and potentially intentionally so. He's said he's not much of a team player, etc...In post 1105, PenguinPower wrote:I like his vote on Chick and have no reason to scumread him right now. I wouldn't say he's high on my list, but apparently you think he should be in the scum section?
If anything he is my definition of null this game
On another note I'm liking the replacements, they mostly feel towny, though I already forget which ones tie back to which original slots, hmm-
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whoops wrong game!In post 1110, Irrelephant11 wrote:mod note: this post contained content intended for another game. it has been removed.
Sorry!@Mod any way this can be spoilered or removed?Last edited by xyzzy on Thu Sep 20, 2018 3:55 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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gosh this is a lot of players
I kind of feel like either gamma or alch is probably scum?
Wagons on either have been hard to come by
then again chickadee has been getting a lot of townreads I don't think she deserves since she started getting votes
@Maria, @chara, @alchemist, @alisae, @dunnstral, @maruchan
If you had to pick a wagon bigger than the one you're on to join, which would you pick
please do so now, or convince someone on a smaller wagon than yours to join you on your lil wagon-
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The main thing was how intent you seemed and still seem intent to drive discussion and sort players, something not many replacements try to do; lots of good questions, etc.In post 1209, Chara wrote:you said i was town, and then that i continued to be so. the fact that you can't explain why baffles me, it just happened.
if there was a single post that made me feel that way I don't recall which one
But I think you've got one of the towniest ISOs in this game and you've been here for like less than half the time so far so I don't feel bad sorting you quickly into a townpile-
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@NM any chance we can get you to express reads or at least a vote
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