OPEN 732 : PICK YOUR POWER X/Y (GAME OVER)

[Myloninja13]

Hi guys! I've replaced into the same game twice now lol.

[Myloninja13]

Okay just ISO's Sando and yeah I'm 100% fine him getting lynched. Very little things there reminded me of town!Sando, and him calling AP very likely town and flipping is not a good look at all lol.

Ofhrz is next

What town!Sando are you not being reminded of?

The time I played with you in Making Friends and Enemies!

Although you were a town PR there...

[Myloninja13]

Uhhh ok so.

I'm willing to just lose if this is skitter. I don't think this is going to be ofrhz.

Music who's most likely to be scum?

pedit: thanks <3

I think Cardi is the most likely scum, but Vulcan is pretty possible too

What happened to this? Why did you suspect Cardi, why are you switching to Sando now that he looks like the most likely lynch?

Well... I literally just sheeped towns consensus because I didn't actually have any real opinions lol.

[Myloninja13]

I think it might be music :/

Sorry, I may disappoint you here, my role PM does specify I'm a townie...

[Myloninja13]

Okay just ISO's Sando and yeah I'm 100% fine him getting lynched. Very little things there reminded me of town!Sando, and him calling AP very likely town and flipping is not a good look at all lol.

Ofhrz is next

What town!Sando are you not being reminded of?

The time I played with you in Making Friends and Enemies!

Although you were a town PR there...

That's not my finest hour as town, I even replaced out due to conflicts

But yeah, I hate playing as PRs.

Yeah, it's probably not fair to call you out on differences between this one and that one lol.

I think I'm fine playing PR's (I played one game I'm SUPER proud of where I correctly watched the night kill, got tracked to prove the result and called out mafia. But for some reason I was lynched over obv!Mafia lol), but I do understand hating a type of role lol.

[Myloninja13]

i want mylo to post more too

Done

[Myloninja13]

Invisibility (8) ~ ruru, skitter30, Enigma, OkaPoka, Cardi B, ofrhz, ceejayvinoya, AP,

AP (7) ~ ofrhz, skitter30, Enigma, OkaPoka, Skygazer, Sando, Music,

CJ - Cardi B, vulcan logician, ofrhz, Skygazer, Enigma, Ausuka,

Vulcan - Cardi B, Sando, Ausuka, Skygazer, ofrhz,

Ofrhz has been on every lynch.
Skitter has only lynched scum
Sando is 1-1 with 2 off-wagons
Cardi is 1-2 with 1 off-wagon
Ausuka has lynched 2 town and no scum
Mylo/Bujaber has lynched 1 scum and not been on 3 of the wagons

1 of those stands out there...I'm not sure why we're locktowning someone who's only ever lynched town.

AHHH don't give me paranoia here, if I start conisdering Ausuka!scum then I basically have to look at everyone's ISO's and out effort in

[Myloninja13]

quack??

Quack Quack Qu-Quack.

[Myloninja13]

i want mylo to post more too

Done

so i was low-key following this game, which ended like today or yesterday or something

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=76573

and mylo was hilarously beyond obv!town, especially in lylo, with that carefree laissez-faire mylo earnestness and trying-to-solve-the-game-ness

here i'm kinda feeling like he's lurking a bit? and that he's having to be prodded to provide content? i like a few posts that give off that carefree tone but the actual lack of presence and lack of interaction with people even after outing the alt is making me slightly nervous

we ummmm may need to reconsider the skitter townread

sorry!

for reference: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=76501; just ended this scumgame (my first one since literally last august lol) that ofrhz and ausuka and mylo were in

i think i've been pretty town here but if you have any questions about anything i did this game (or that game) let me know so we can talk about it

Yeah, I was pretty proud of that game lol, quite literally the most effort I've ever put into a MafiaScum game and I still got lynched for it lol. But I'm kinda not really invested heaps in this game sorry, like I missed a day phase and I don't really have any #CRAZY thoughts on the game right now lol. If you have any questions I'll be

obliged

happy to answer them!

BTW, thanks for adding 'laissez-faire' into my vocabulary lol.


But this last thing is just a 'hmm' thing. I mean, I didn't particularly notice you in that game but I haven't really seen anything that's against what you did there? But from memory you also played like this in Splatoon, so like it could just be style lol.

[Myloninja13]

@mylo again: now that you remember that sando was a pr in that game does that affect your read on him here?

Yeah, I think meta-wise he's all good, although maybe a bit more lowkey? But you know, everyone has off-games and maybe they're overgamed up to 11 games like I was once?

[Myloninja13]

Sorry for being absent, I've been doing a school production and that's kinda taken up my usual free time.

UNVOTE: Just for now because from memory there was something I was thinking was townish from Sando.

[Myloninja13]

Ay, I'm here quickly before I have to run off for dinner lol.

[Myloninja13]

Ay, I'm here quickly before I have to run off for dinner lol.

Never mind I literally have to go right now sorry lol. But I shall return after the commercials of Chicken Kiev!

[Myloninja13]

Okay, I'm back once more!

[Myloninja13]

I think it's time to unlock my special "Late-Game Game-Solving" abilities!

[Myloninja13]

Okay, I really don't want to dig in to paranoia here but I kiiinda agree with some of Sando's point on Ausuka which means it's time for another ISO check lol.

[Myloninja13]

Oh, before I forget the thing I was town reading Sando for was honestly the fact that he went for Ausuka over Me/Ofrhz. Like, why put yourself through so much as scum when there's two pretty easy mislynches right there?

[Myloninja13]

last scum is almost never here

skitter30
Skygazer
Enigma

last scum is unlikely to be here

Vulcan logician
ofrhz
Sando

last scum is probably here

Cardi B
ceejayvinoya

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXCaEU-zSYQ[/youtube]

[Myloninja13]

My lack of knowledge in MafiaScum buttons is ruining my jokes

[Myloninja13]

Okay, ISO is done and dusted! And after that I... dunno what to think lol.

[Myloninja13]

Is it okay if I just bring out a probably irrational thought that's kinda been going around in my head?

[Myloninja13]

I'm kiiiinda worried that maybe Ausuka is like trying to buddy me? Like, I dunno but I was wondering why scum!Ausuka would be honest about finding me town instead of just allowing an easy mislynch, but then I realised that I sheep anyone I've played with before lol.

[Myloninja13]

But at the same time their ISO is... not awful? It's... certainly a thing I can see from town!Ausuka but also I guess from Scum!Ausuka if I think about it hard?

But like this could all just be paranoia lol

[Myloninja13]

Oh, and speaking of paranoia I'm now paranoid of Skitter!Scum after The Gerrymandering incident. So basically I'm back at square one with my reads and I have to figure out who is scum while also proving myself as town while doing normal life stuff.

Yay lol.

[Myloninja13]

Actually wait, I'm pretty solid at reading Brass so I'll just do that!

[Myloninja13]

Okay yeah Brass is town

[Myloninja13]

Like, I've played with him a surprising amount of times so I think I can actually maybe properly read him? So yeah Cardi B is town too!

[Myloninja13]

I really need to stop sheeping people I've played with lol. I was going to lynch pretty obvious town in the blink of an eye lol.

[Myloninja13]

Skitter, step up to the ISO-checker!

[Myloninja13]

I must leave once more

But I will return

And if you'd like, ask any questions and I'll answer them

(And from what I saw I think Skitter is also likely town too lol)

[Myloninja13]

i think on some fundemental level we view anti-associatives differently because i still believe my behavior around the ap lynch in jungle republic should have been clearing, and i also believe that ausuka's behavior around the ap lynch in this game ought to be clearing too

This though, combined with ignoring points about other scummy behaviour is exactly why it's so dangerous.

You're basically saying that no amount of scuminess can ever overcome reducing our pool from say 10 to 5? I don't know what the exact numbers were at the time, but if you want a reason for why scum would do that, it's right there, you're clearing them.

but i don't think her behavior is scummy tho; like the things you're viewing as scummy i don't think is scummy here, and yes, i think that her ap/pgo thing is the single-most important thing she's done wrt figuring out her alignment

i think that there's a vast difference between 'we know that scum probably have a pgo/vig somewhere in the playerlist' vs 'we know that there is (a probably) scum pgo within this select group of people'

the lurking now is kinda meh but i think it's site-wide so i don't think it's particularly ai for this game in particular

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ok this is more like the town!mylo that i was looking for :p

i don't really understand your paranoia of ausuka tho

@mylo why is brass town? can you point to a game or two where you read him correctly?

Ay thanks Skitter

And a great example is my very first game! I called the scum team out day 2, and actually got night killed for it! Those were the good old days where I used to put effort into my games...

Here it is: viewtopic.php?f=50&t=74576

But if I was around for this game in Day 1, I probably would've caught Brass too!

https://forum.mafia451.com/t/brass-shra ... e-over/762

[Myloninja13]

Hokay Im gonna say skitter,

AP

,ruru,ohrfrz probably town. I think

Invinibilty

,Skygazer n Engima are all hot maybes. VOTE: OkaPoka is where the shmoney is for me righnow.

I think Invisibility in particular was a weird townlean to have at this stage in the game. The dude was just randomly voting lurkers/people he thought siteflaked and as soon as those people returned, he would unvote and move his vote onto someone else.

Did I not even get a mention? Geez...

Same

[Myloninja13]

mylo how confident are you in your brass tr?

inclined to say we resolve sando / me today? not sure why sando is talking up how towny mylo is while saying that cardi is fairly null but saying mylo is the better lynch.

Pretty confident I think, Not interesting in going after that slot at all today.

[Myloninja13]

Okay I think Sando is probably the best lynch for today, I think I'm solid on both {Skitter, Cardi} town and not particularly thinking of ofrhz.

VOTE: Sando

[Myloninja13]

@Duckling, is your word "Quack"

[Myloninja13]

That ofrhz kill is weird but I think it's time for Mylo to activate his MYLO Game-solving abilties!

[Myloninja13]

Interested in hammertesting skitter and ausuka at the moment

VOTE: Music

uh.... why? Like, either of them could be scum and we have a whole day phase + maybe a no lynch to solve this game in, and you want to waste that on a hammer test lol?

[Myloninja13]

To everyone else, please don't vote! I was recently in a MYLO before where I was thiiiiiis close to voting scum but ultimately didn't and I AM NOT LETTING that happen again lol.

[Myloninja13]

I guess that's fair but like if I was scum this would probably be the worst night kill I could've made lol

[Myloninja13]

Actually, this night kill is pretty weird overall tbh. Like, I'd pretty much imagine every scum option killing Town!Skitter, and I guess Skitter probably would've killed Ausuka? I dunno lol, but just not this.

[Myloninja13]

Hmm actually, let me check what Ofrhz thought yesterday

[Myloninja13]

Okay so yeah never mind apparently Ofrhz really suspected Cardi.

Which means I have to re-evaluate the Brass meta AHHHH

[Myloninja13]

Okay so it still looks townie though AHHH

I guess I'll meta Cardi B then lol?

[Myloninja13]

Huh so Cardi kinda defended AP and Invis at points which is a bit hmm... But like aside from that it's okay I guess?

I think an Ausuka check-up is necessary here too though

[Myloninja13]

ap still might be scum because thats the rb slot

but

there is one other scum in here that we have to find

VOTE: skitter30

^ basically my thoughts. AP could be scum RB but I very much doubt he's scumvig which means we should go for Vulcan or skitter today imo. The quick wagon means he's more likely to be town and people on it are more likely to be scum I think. I'm not a fan of skitter's vote when she was defending AP earlier.

ooooh I noticed this post lol. Quoting this for later.

[Myloninja13]

Ehhh I'm also townreading Ausuka, which is annoying because it means one of my townreads is a sneaky scum and I have to do EVEN MORE EFFORT. Like geez, I might end up having to put more effort into this one than the Encore game lol.

[Myloninja13]

Probably voting no lynch today

Hiyo Ausuka! Sup?

And yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the smartest idea here.

[Myloninja13]

Oh wait I have to prove myself as town before I find scum lol. Let me do that.

[Myloninja13]

So here's my most recent scum game, and the only scum game I've ever won that Ausuka wasn't in.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=76865

I suggest you to ISO me and see what lovely contributions I added to the game state

[Myloninja13]

And if you don't want to, let me summarise!

I make seven entire posts. Just seven. Three of them are forced prodges. Two of them are *COugh Cough*

Analysis Posts

*Cough Cough* that are awful lol. Like, just the worst. My final post was a V/LA mention and a basic "Terrible wagon" post.

Like, just EW lol.

[Myloninja13]

i miight be slightly busy today but can make some time for this game i think

i guess the first question though is whether it's best for ppl to share reads in case they get nightkilled, or we don't do that and make it harder for scum to wifom the kill choice or make a more informed kill choice because if it's better to wait it's probably best that i don't try to solve today. otoh it might be too late for that since you and cardi already talked about what you think.

Pedit: well i mean you're clearly capable of more than that so I don't see why it's good to judge you based on that game?

Ehhh not sure if you can really count those marathon games. For one, they were quick so I didn't have to worry too much (ALthough I still panicked in the scum thread for all of them haha) and also you did correctly read me the first time anyway lol. And the second game I intentionally pocketed you so you hopefully wouldn't do that lol.

[Myloninja13]

Mylo u wanna talk about how playin scum feels to u?

Sure! I hate it lol.

I don't like lying in general, and I'm also over-apologetic in real life. Both of those combine into a very bad mafia player lol. I don't like having to lie to everyone, in fact most times I've played scum I've tried to use half-truths or specifically bend the statement to make it true lol. And I really feel bad for letting my team down as well, so that adds more paranoia and it all just makes me not want to even post on the thread.

Although, I do prodge as town also but it's more of an "I'm not really interesting" than an "I'm worried about obv!scumming".

But anyway, I thankfully don't roll scum much and this game is no exception lol. But anyhow, I believe it's time for the Second Read of Skitter's ISO!

[Myloninja13]

Okay yeah Skitter also passes Mylo's scrutinous ISO check lol. Probably the best ISO out of you three to be honest lol.

[Myloninja13]

Okay, to break up the serious tone for a bit, let's play hangman while we find the last scum!

14 letters. ??????????????

[Myloninja13]

I've got good news and bad news. The bad news is I'm sick and have to stay in bed for most of today. The good news is that means I have a free day to find scum

For hangman, no 'm' but there is an e!

???????e??????

[Myloninja13]

VOTE COUNT 1.7

Sando (1)

~ BuJaber,

skitter30 (0)

~

AP (0)

~

brassherald (0)

~

BuJaber (2)

~ vulcan logician, Enigma,

Ausuka (0)

~

Skygazer (0)

~

vulcan logician (1)

~ Sando,

ceejayvinoya (0)

~

ruru (1)

~ OkaPoka,

ofrhz (0)

~

Invisibility (1)

~ ceejayvinoya,

OkaPoka (4)

~ brassherald, skitter30, AP, Invisibility,

Enigma (4)

~ Ausuka, Skygazer, ruru, ofrhz,

NOT VOTING:

with 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

day one will end in (expired on 2018-07-25 18:30:00)

mod notes:

- skitter30 v/la Fridays & Saturdays
- HAPPY BIRTHDAY SANDO'S GF!!!
- quack

This is an interesting VC. Scum was either on Enigma or Oka, but there was already two scum on Oka.

:Thinking Face:

[Myloninja13]

Heyo I'm still sicko but I'm going to do stuff here anyway haha

[Myloninja13]

Okay so nevermind I kinda forgot to do this until nearly 10PM lol. But hey, better later than never?

[Myloninja13]

Thanks Skitter, I do now!

I know you guys said a no-lynch wouldn't really help too much anymore but I kinda still want to do it lol? I dunno, knowing that at least of you specifically is town would help somewhat?

I dunno, if it makes sense the current game-state feels too easy? That's not the brightest though of course lol, but like I remember feeling a bit like this in a newbie game I replaced into a while ago, the game state ended up with everyone sorta just agreeing someone was scum and they didn't even post after that and we lynched them and they were town

If we don't end up no-lynching though, is it okay if we hammer-test Skitter? If they are scum, I really do not think they can lose this game anyway, so I'd rather just prove them as town and move on lol.

[Myloninja13]

@ Ausuka and Cardi B

Are you both fine to hammer-test Skitter? It seems like you both seem you should be but just to ensure you are.

Then we can choose between Ausuka and I to hammer-test? I'm personally a bit paranoid of Ausukua just for now so I'd prefer holding off on them for now if that's okay.

[Myloninja13]

We have 8 days left still, we don't need to worry just yet. But I pretty much think that everyone is in agreement of Skitter being town here, so we may as well just confirm it?

[Myloninja13]

Actually wait both of you have pretty much already agreed to hammer-test Skitter lol.

VOTE: Cardi B

[Myloninja13]

Welp, that happened lol. Don't feel too bad about this loss, both Cardi/Shadd and Ausuka wouldn't have hammered Skitter anyway but I still did townread Skitter quite a bit lol. Btw thanks for keeping me alive at the end lol.

I think this is my second-last game on this account! I went from ~9 active games down to only 3 currently, which is pretty good! I'm going to take a break for a while soon anyway lol.

Anyhow, Mylo is now out!

[Myloninja13]

yo mylo can I request you join these 8 games?

Sure

[Myloninja13]

Haha, nice read there!

[Myloninja13]

Just finished reading through, nice stuff guys!