Open 735: Watchmen Wanted - Game Over!

[the worst]

if I'm right on Reundo too I want so much bread post-game. x( and that's a fair call, I think my current lack of investment is the death of my charisma which makes everything I do look shonky.

[Toranaga]

Votecount 1.11

Sesq (4)

-

Dunnstral

117, northsidegal 307,

the worst

308,

volxen

330

volxen

(4)

- Reundo 220, Sesq 222, Keyser Söze 224,

Ausuka

239

Toranaga (1)

- Irrelephant 255

[2 718281828459]

(1)

- Kop 194

Not voting: Toranaga 110,

[2 718281828459]

151

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

Mod notes

• - Ausuka has been prodded. She has (expired on 2018-09-02 10:23:45) to post before I start searching for her replacement.
  -
  @northsidegal
  : After deliberation, I have decided to stick to my original deadline extension of pausing at 48 hours until the last replacement is filled (if necessary).

[Toranaga]

Votecount 1.17

volxen (6)

- Reundo 220, Sesq 222, Keyser Söze 224, Toranaga 402, the worst 406, Ausuka 408

Sesq (3)

- Dunnstral 117, northsidegal 307, volxen 330

Keyser Söze (1)

- Huntress 393

Toranaga (1)

- Irrelephant 255

Huntress (1)

- Eragon 194

Not voting: N/A

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

[Toranaga]

volxen is actually a late sesq wagoner and only starts pushing her strongly once they've become competing wagons

what do you expect from volxen in a svs situation here? to roll over and die?

[the worst]

given he did the fakeclaim I don't think it was his intention to roll over and die nah

[the worst]

kinda just read like keeping a low profile until he realised he was in danger

[Toranaga]

given he did the fakeclaim I don't think it was his intention to roll over and die nah

good, so, if he claims vt, he gets lynched and then sesq gets lynched d2, right?

if he claims watcher, he might not get lynched, he might get sesq lynched and then claim towncred for it even if he doesn't draw a NK, he might out the real watcher and make sesq look good etc

I don't think this is spewed clear. I think it's the opposite. I think sesq would actually look better if volxen just rolled with a vt claim and died there.

[Eragon]

ffs don't be town :////

^poor ducky.

im sorry I should've stuck w/ my gut

still town. sorry all.

Really?

I think we’ve lost then

boi we got numbers.
THERE IS STRENGTH IN NUMBERS.

They hunted us
They are coming for us
They know we are now strong
They fear us
We must prove them right
We must save ourselves and this plant
We fight as one
We need your help

(free towncred if you know the series im referring too)

I don't like reundo's last post.

agreed here

sorry.

yeah NSG is not scum. Rel is not scum. I'll literally need to take a break from mafia in general if I'm wrong on either of those because fuuuck
I don't want Keyser to be scum but there's a world where I'm wrong.

your never wrong on Rel, I dont think your wrong on NSG

{NSG, Rel}
{Eragon}
{Nauci, Tora}
{Keyser}
{}
{Reundo}

last guesses.

I mean, Idk why you arent hard-towning Nauci, but you do you

if Reundo is wolf and endgames this you're all bad

please please sort him with extreme prejudice tomorrow and act accordingly (was kinda my intention today but I was always eating a lynch so it's fine)

Reundo won't endgame us
Thus I swear

assuming duck isn't twilight trolling I think my opinions have been made clear

don't get endgamed by toranaga

tora be town

assuming duck isn't twilight trolling I think my opinions have been made clear

this is such a townsidegal post too I think
wish I had the enthusiasm to twilight troll this hard

*GASP*
has he been misleading us!
(/s)

this is suddenly one of the hardest games I've played

touche

this doesn't read like what I'd expect from scum!you but I think after Heroes Wanted I probably have an unreasonably high opinion of town!Tora, which will totally mellow out.

I don't weak townread you necessarily I'm just super confident on NSG/Rel and would be surprised if Era flips red.

-insert dancing Pikachu gif here-

we probably just needed a supervillain to scream at for a bit tbh

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

yeah I'm completely on the same page, sans knowledge I've mentioned above

I can't really think if anyone here should have known better. wolfiest thing in Nauci's ISO is her rep in comment about my towngame then acting like it was a reaction test once I became lynchable but she doesn't feel like a wolf otherwise rip

you're fine though sorry for getting distracted. Heroes Wanted lategame was a super unique situation where very few of us realised that scum were steamrolling despite the early lunches and we had to make a lot of changes to turn things around. that kind of locktown level of gamestate read has happened to me... twice ever I think?

agree on Nauci, feels textbook town to me

yeah tbh I was expecting a bit more from you this game as well

you had some brilliant moments of gut reading into stuff correctly with lots of confidence and didn't actually deserve to be lynched at all. I mean you totally dunked on volxen and dunn. it just looked like bussing when you did it.

rip in pieces ducky

DRIP!
ducky rest in peace

volxen is actually a late sesq wagoner and only starts pushing her strongly once they've become competing wagons

what do you expect from volxen in a svs situation here? to roll over and die?

I dont know what you're trying to say here, but I dont really think Nauci is scum based on Volxen voting their replaces

[Eragon]

given he did the fakeclaim I don't think it was his intention to roll over and die nah

good, so, if he claims vt, he gets lynched and then sesq gets lynched d2, right?

if he claims watcher, he might not get lynched,

he might get sesq lynched

and then claim towncred for it even if he doesn't draw a NK, he might out the real watcher

and make sesq look good

etc

I don't think this is spewed clear. I think it's the opposite. I think sesq would actually look better if volxen just rolled with a vt claim and died there.

those two thoughts can't go together, its one or the other

[Toranaga]

given he did the fakeclaim I don't think it was his intention to roll over and die nah

good, so, if he claims vt, he gets lynched and then sesq gets lynched d2, right?

if he claims watcher, he might not get lynched,

he might get sesq lynched

and then claim towncred for it even if he doesn't draw a NK, he might out the real watcher

and make sesq look good

etc

I don't think this is spewed clear. I think it's the opposite. I think sesq would actually look better if volxen just rolled with a vt claim and died there.

those two thoughts can't go together, its one or the other

yes it's one or the other

he could get sesq lynched and claim towncred for it, or get lynched himself and make sesq look good as it happened

if he claims vt, we're steamrolling sesq next gameday 100% of the time, right? the reason we didn't lynch sesq next was because volxen claimed watcher

[the worst]

given he then wouldn't be NK'd which spews him as not-TPR I don't think volxen actually benefits from bussing a scumbuddy last minute tbqh

pedit: yeah Era is right

[Eragon]

given he did the fakeclaim I don't think it was his intention to roll over and die nah

good, so, if he claims vt, he gets lynched and then sesq gets lynched d2, right?

if he claims watcher, he might not get lynched,

he might get sesq lynched

and then claim towncred for it even if he doesn't draw a NK, he might out the real watcher

and make sesq look good

etc

I don't think this is spewed clear. I think it's the opposite. I think sesq would actually look better if volxen just rolled with a vt claim and died there.

those two thoughts can't go together, its one or the other

yes it's one or the other

he could get sesq lynched and claim towncred for it, or get lynched himself and make sesq look good as it happened

if he claims vt, we're steamrolling sesq next gameday 100% of the time, right? the reason we didn't lynch sesq next was because volxen claimed watcher

there is no reason for him to Lynch his buddy

why in the hell would mafia leave a claimed lookout alive?
So if Volxen wasn't NK'd, that makes them almost confirmed mafia at the point, which is 2 mafia down in 2 days(which, arguably, is what happened, but not for the same reasons)

[Eragon]

The mafia would have to be on a whole other level on the stupid meter to not kill the watcher

[Toranaga]

my argument isn't that bussing is all that beneficial for volxen. my argument is that he had no other choice but to push sesq hard there, regardless of sesq's alignment.

[Eragon]

and thats my point as well.

what good would come from bussing his partner D1 and then being lynched anyways D2

[the worst]

fair

I'd say it's like 1% > rand town for the Sesq slot but it's not strong

[Eragon]

other fun flavor

They will not stop until our plant is theirs
They will not rest until we are all dead
They have killed many of us

But we are done running

We are all that stands in their way
We know secrets they thought hidden
We have power they didn't expect.

THE TIME HAS COME FOR THEM TO FALL

[Toranaga]

the most likely scenario there would still be volxen getting lynched

someone else dying at night instead of volxen can be explained away by scum fearing the claim is a fake claim and not wanting to kill someone that's always getting watched by the real watcher

it's thin but there are reasons

my argument is that we shouldn't clear sesq for volxen pushing her because there are clear benefits for scum!volxen to play like he did when scum!sesq is the counterwagon.

[Eragon]

the most likely scenario there would still be volxen getting lynched

someone else dying at night instead of volxen can be explained away by scum fearing the claim is a fake claim and not wanting to kill someone that's always getting watched by the real watcher

it's thin but there are reasons

my argument is that we shouldn't clear sesq for volxen pushing her because there are clear benefits for scum!volxen to play like he did when scum!sesq is the counterwagon.

why would the real watcher watch someone they know is fake claiming?

likely as scum

[the worst]

Era is durnk again

Pedit: totally agree just sort Nauci on Nauci imo
Sesq is a mess to read

[Toranaga]

the most likely scenario there would still be volxen getting lynched

someone else dying at night instead of volxen can be explained away by scum fearing the claim is a fake claim and not wanting to kill someone that's always getting watched by the real watcher

it's thin but there are reasons

my argument is that we shouldn't clear sesq for volxen pushing her because there are clear benefits for scum!volxen to play like he did when scum!sesq is the counterwagon.

why would the real watcher watch someone they know is fake claiming?

likely as scum

if sesq flipped scum, wouldn't you watch volxen n1?

[Eragon]

Era is durnk again

Pedit: totally agree just sort Nauci on Nauci imo
Sesq is a mess to read

I can't drink 0,0

[Eragon]

the most likely scenario there would still be volxen getting lynched

someone else dying at night instead of volxen can be explained away by scum fearing the claim is a fake claim and not wanting to kill someone that's always getting watched by the real watcher

it's thin but there are reasons

my argument is that we shouldn't clear sesq for volxen pushing her because there are clear benefits for scum!volxen to play like he did when scum!sesq is the counterwagon.

why would the real watcher watch someone they know is fake claiming?

likely as scum

I wouldn't watch someone who I know is fake claiming.
because I would be like, 90% certain they are scum

if sesq flipped scum, wouldn't you watch volxen n1?

[Eragon]

where the fuck did the text go?

[Eragon]

the most likely scenario there would still be volxen getting lynched

someone else dying at night instead of volxen can be explained away by scum fearing the claim is a fake claim and not wanting to kill someone that's always getting watched by the real watcher

it's thin but there are reasons

my argument is that we shouldn't clear sesq for volxen pushing her because there are clear benefits for scum!volxen to play like he did when scum!sesq is the counterwagon.

why would the real watcher watch someone they know is fake claiming?

likely as scum

if sesq flipped scum, wouldn't you watch volxen n1?

the most likely scenario there would still be volxen getting lynched

someone else dying at night instead of volxen can be explained away by scum fearing the claim is a fake claim and not wanting to kill someone that's always getting watched by the real watcher

it's thin but there are reasons

my argument is that we shouldn't clear sesq for volxen pushing her because there are clear benefits for scum!volxen to play like he did when scum!sesq is the counterwagon.

why would the real watcher watch someone they know is fake claiming?

likely as scum

if sesq flipped scum, wouldn't you watch volxen n1?

I wouldn't watch someone who I know is fake claiming.
because I would be like, 90% certain they are scum

shit my b lol