Mini 2032: Children of Hurin Mafia - Game Over

[snuggly quackdrew 39]

392, Nancy

Thanks, I found it.

[snuggly quackdrew 39]

wtf is this. I cant leave for one damn day.

assuming pig flips scum (because if town self hammered they should never come back) -

I have nero and FFT as most likely scum partners. Nero's bs in general had me pinging him as scum already and he looks to be avoiding the pig wagon while creating a counter even though he was active through it. FFT's vote there was rather lackluster and could easilly be bussing. I have not like FFT at all and the hostility with people asking for reasoning is anti-town at best, scum cover at worst and I am leaning scum there.

I don't see NK15 placing that vote if he were scum though with pig hammering. Same with NOS, posts don't make a lot of sense with pig scum.

Nero's misrepping what I stated here:

Scum are plenty capable of being active and he only has 5 more posts than Brian's hydra. Why do those 5 posts make him not scummy but 5 less posts make Brian scummy?

If activity was the source of my read you would have a point. Since that is clearly NOT what I said, you do not. Activity is not a tell one way or another. Pointing out post count is not relevant.

So how do you feel about A50 then? Nothing remotely “hostile” there. Ok, QT has no familiarity with Nero meta. Could explain a lot?

[snuggly quackdrew 39]

Okay, just popping in to say, I’m liking Nero, FA_QT and Maria for town.

~Nancy

There r no scum on Page 1

Frozenaga town already

Frozenaga town already

lolol

and you're town already too

how about that haters

go team brazil

-tor

I want reasons for these townreads.

Nero Cain should always be high in sorting priority because he's a fairly easy read

Why should he be high in sorting priority if he's fairly easy read?
He can probably sorted without me needing to do anything anyway.

agree. If I'm so easy then you should be trying to sort harder to read players first, not me

there's nothing wrong with their posting and your vague as fuck "squirmy and defensive" means nothing to me.

Yes.

I'll be back after TW decides to stop trying to lurk the pressure off of him.

This doesn't look good, however. Mud-slinging. TW posted alot.

and it's like 7 to lynch and we still have eons of time on the clock. Freaking out about a 2nd vote doesn't make sense from town.

Nero is right, here.

Not moving my vote.

and

Not liking these posts at all. First NK is agreeing with Nero, that tw’s posts are scummy. Then he accuses Nero of “mudslinging”, then he once again agrees with Nero about tw’s reaction to a 2nd vote?

[snuggly quackdrew 39]

Nero's bs in general had me pinging him as scum already and he looks to be avoiding the pig wagon while creating a counter even though he was active through it.

You mean the same counterwagon he's been preaching all game?

-3

Nice catch from FFT.

Scum could be QT/Gamma.

I’m remembering why I initially townread Kokichi, so not liking Gamma ‘s push on him.

Wosdom is definitely wrong about Nero.

Alright, so I can go with QT or Gamma.

His NK Pork vote defense seems over the top to me, unlike Maria’s which seems to come from a town perspective.

One thing interesting me, is that CM targets Kokichi and Gamma is pushing him.

I can’t help gettting the sense that QT has TMI about Pork wagon. QT/Gamma would make total sense as scum.

[snuggly quackdrew 39]

wtf is this. I cant leave for one damn day.

assuming pig flips scum (because if town self hammered they should never come back) -

I have nero and FFT as most likely scum partners. Nero's bs in general had me pinging him as scum already and he looks to be avoiding the pig wagon while creating a counter even though he was active through it. FFT's vote there was rather lackluster and could easilly be bussing. I have not like FFT at all and the hostility with people asking for reasoning is anti-town at best, scum cover at worst and I am leaning scum there.

I don't see NK15 placing that vote if he were scum though with pig hammering.

Same with NOS, posts don't make a lot of sense with pig scum.

Nero's misrepping what I stated here:

Scum are plenty capable of being active and he only has 5 more posts than Brian's hydra. Why do those 5 posts make him not scummy but 5 less posts make Brian scummy?

If activity was the source of my read you would have a point. Since that is clearly NOT what I said, you do not. Activity is not a tell one way or another. Pointing out post count is not relevant.

Why mention Nos specifically? It’s pretty damned obvious that Nos was never w/w with Pork.

Do you still think Nero is w/w with A50?

So QT is clearly saying that A50 is the scum on wagon and Nero, off.

But why can’t the scum on wagon be Gamma and the one off, be him - if you’re locked into that narrative?

Maria’s Gamma defense sounds believable, QT’s does not.

I think the most logical take would be that Pork wagon was pure, so QT insisting it wasn’t reads like TMI to me.

[Toranaga]

how did nancy become so good at mafia

[Toranaga]

I don't necessarily agree it's qt/gamma but these thoughts have depth and wisdom to them I wasn't expecting from someone with 2 finished scum games total

[Almost50]

TBH, I am wondering why Wisdom is still TRing me hard. I am voting him. I am not moving my vote around. I didn't present a case on his slot (not something I would consider compelling anyway). Like that's the only reason I am now doubting my read on the slot.

However, I have learnt not to read the player, but rather read the slot. I know Wisdom to be a very capable player as either alignment and I would be overjoyed if he somehow managed to convince me he was Town here, because that gives us a better chance at winning.

I didn't like CMod's activity here and I still believe that ellitell applies though. I might consider a vote switch if a better lynch is on the table (Hint: There's no better lynch than a Scum!Wisdom lynch. What I mean is if someone is more likely to flip scum is being wagoned. But WHO could that be??)

[Nero Cain]

a50 there's no guilty, you can talk about other stuff now.

[Almost50]

a50 there's no guilty, you can talk about other stuff now.

Where did I refer to the guilty in my post? I am saying I scum read the slot by virtue of ellitell on CMod who was active elsewhere and not in this thread.

[Wisdom]

TBH, I am wondering why Wisdom is still TRing me hard.

Predecessor.

[Almost50]

UNVOTE:

What does the VC look like?

@Mod: Can we please get an official VC?

[Almost50]

TBH, I am wondering why Wisdom is still TRing me hard.

Predecessor.

Do you believe in the ellitell?
Do you not suspect me for pushing you while actively stating your own posts do not ping me?

[Wisdom]

no, i know for a fact its bs as ive been inactive myself in towngames on purpose
and no your predecessor was town

[Aristophanes]

@Mod: Can we please get an official VC?

Already on it!

[Aristophanes]

VC 2.4

Gamma Emerald

(3): Wisdom 445, Kokichi Oma 503, frozenega 1348

Kokichi Oma

(1): MaraR 1325

Wisdom

(1): Gamma Emerald 933

Nero Cain

(1): FA_Q2 392

Almost50

(1): Creature 1108

FA_Q2

(1): Nero Cain 1282

Not Voting

(3): ceejayvinoya, Almost50 1131, snuggly quackdrew 39 1199

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.
D2 ends October 8/18 at 1:30pm or in (expired on 2018-10-08 13:30:00)

Mod Notes:

I died at that Jynxxi Minaj Pic XD

[Almost50]

no, i know for a fact its bs as ive been inactive myself in towngames on purpose
and no your predecessor was town

Come on Wis, you're not CMod. The ellitell doesn't apply to experienced players. I wouldn't try to use it against you -in person- or Nero for instance.

[Almost50]

VOTE: CJV

His inactivity and void posting is a scum tell for him.

[frozenaga]

VOTE: ceejay

[Wisdom]

can we not stray from the gamma lynch

[Almost50]

can we not stray from the gamma lynch

I'm not sold on Gamma, but I know CJV's play.

[ceejayvinoya]

Not well enough apparently

[ceejayvinoya]

Something is wrong with Wisdom's claim. I can't explain it properly tho

[Almost50]

Not well enough apparently

Beetlejuice much? Where have you been when everyone was talking about a Gamma lynch? Where have you been during the Wisdom-Nero back and forth? What happened to your catch up which you said was halfway done?

[Gamma Emerald]

I think I want to vote ceejay but it’s a weak feeling so I’ll wait for his evidence against Wisdom