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no, that's a towny thought to have
I liked elsa's last post. reading too much into unimportant things and getting out of RVS
pedit: you're putting elsa on the not towny list? why is that?- Toranaga
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oh it's overdramatic for sure, I just don't think it's fake. it's probably how elsa thinks- Toranaga
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what happened to your eye?In post 24, CheekyTeeky wrote:
...O_oIn post 22, Toranaga wrote:oh it's overdramatic for sure, I just don't think it's fake. it's probably how elsa thinks
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boom take that cheekyIn post 25, Elsa Jay wrote:I'm dramatic by default, I assure you. But I'm also trying to solve the game as well.
Usually 5 months ago I did jackshit the first 10 or so pages. Changing up the formula and all that.
dramatic by default. he admits it himself.
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cheeky, elsa and chickadee to a lesser extent are townreads- Toranaga
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I would be bussing him alreadyIn post 47, CheekyTeeky wrote:Btw if you're both scum I'm going to stomp on you both so hard you'll wish you never got on this spaceship! You know who you are.- Toranaga
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first of all, you're not even allowed to think elsa is scummy because outside of buying into your mason claim, elsa has been projecting town very hard the entire time he is here.In post 76, RadiantCowbells wrote:why not?
buying into your mason claim is something that always comes from a place of ignorance. it could be scum doing it, it could be town doing it, but it's always coming from a place where he doesn't know you enough, or he didn't even play mafia enough, to understand he shouldn't be reading into your mason claim like that.
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if I have TMI on elsa that says I'm scum and elsa is town- Toranaga
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it's a new player thinking new player things I'm almost sure- Toranaga
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malakittens MQ thing is several sheeped opinions condensed in a scumpost- Toranaga
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I never said that believing your claim was towny. I said it was not scummy. I said elsa's posts outside of that part are towny, and I'm townreading him tonally when he is concerned people are voting you.In post 98, RadiantCowbells wrote:
but why would you be almost sure of this? why would elsa jay -not- do this as scum? because i'm fairly sure even he would say this is p much exactly what his scum game would look likeIn post 93, Toranaga wrote:it's a new player thinking new player things I'm almost sure
just re-read what I said to you.- Toranaga
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if he is not new, he is not from a time where people opened with fake claims, or he wouldn't react like he did regardless of alignment.In post 103, Malakittens wrote:
hes not new thoughIn post 93, Toranaga wrote:it's a new player thinking new player things I'm almost sure
but i give you a 10/10 for effort though- Toranaga
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but you made no counterpoint here. yes it can be scum acting faking towny stuff, that's not my read into it.In post 106, Malakittens wrote:
yet being concerned people are voting RC could be scum faking acting as toneIn post 100, Toranaga wrote:
I never said that believing your claim was towny. I said it was not scummy. I said elsa's posts outside of that part are towny, and I'm townreading him tonally when he is concerned people are voting you.In post 98, RadiantCowbells wrote:
but why would you be almost sure of this? why would elsa jay -not- do this as scum? because i'm fairly sure even he would say this is p much exactly what his scum game would look likeIn post 93, Toranaga wrote:it's a new player thinking new player things I'm almost sure
just re-read what I said to you.
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I said many times now I'm not townreading him for this. I disagreed it was scummy, because it's not scummy. I'm townreading elsa cause he feels genuine in every post of his that I read.In post 110, Malakittens wrote:
Please tell me this is not why you're actually town reading him.In post 107, Toranaga wrote:
if he is not new, he is not from a time where people opened with fake claims, or he wouldn't react like he did regardless of alignment.In post 103, Malakittens wrote:
hes not new thoughIn post 93, Toranaga wrote:it's a new player thinking new player things I'm almost sure
but i give you a 10/10 for effort though- Toranaga
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I'm not defending anyone, I'm just giving my thoughts on the game
I find the scumreads on elsa pretty odd and like the people doing so should know better- Toranaga
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you wouldn't be questioning elsa if you weren't pinged by him, but I was talking about RC and malakittens. I like how both progressed with their posting and I like RC townreading mala after mala's big post about elsa that I also thought was towny.In post 130, Reasonably Rational wrote:
Do you view what I'm saying so far as expressing a scumread?In post 125, Toranaga wrote:I'm not defending anyone, I'm just giving my thoughts on the game
I find the scumreads on elsa pretty odd and like the people doing so should know better
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neither you nor RC can read me btwIn post 128, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'm really sad you rolled scum again Tor :/
you totally can't, you only got there last game because you were pretty sure I was subbing into scum anyway and then I was literally caught next gameday after convincing you I was town. and you townread scum!me in our other game together on 451.
RC just scumreads me all the time the whole time so :shrug:
but for you: read that game. look how I came into it, my thoughts on players etc. read my games as town. then come back here, and read me here. I'm sure you can get there if you refresh your memory on how I usually play.- Toranaga
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you never read me correctly apart from the game I was hydraing with cheeky teekyIn post 142, RadiantCowbells wrote:I can read you a lot better than you can read me
every game you're town you think I'm scum and I'm town, with literally no exception
you just suffer from selective memory and confuse people and events- Toranaga
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that's the game I was hydraing with cheeky teeky you geniusIn post 148, RadiantCowbells wrote:idk my selective memory allows me to remember twin trap- Toranaga
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I'm very confident townreading you. I'm seeing lots of similarities from this game and RC's past games as town, so yeah I'm townleaning both of you and I'm unsurprised you're both trying to kill meIn post 152, CheekyTeeky wrote:
You convinced me you were town with AtE. I read you just fine until you started calling me shit which I thought you wouldn't stoop to as scum. We'll see, but saying I can't read you doesn't mean I shouldn't try and it's creeping me the eff out that you're talking to us like you know we're town.In post 140, Toranaga wrote:you totally can't, you only got there last game because you were pretty sure I was subbing into scum anyway and then I was literally caught next gameday after convincing you I was town.- Toranaga
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yes, that's the only game he read me correctly and that's cause of youIn post 155, CheekyTeeky wrote:
You mean the one you were convinced RC was scum and I had to reassure you multiple times he wasnt?In post 150, Toranaga wrote:
that's the game I was hydraing with cheeky teeky you geniusIn post 148, RadiantCowbells wrote:idk my selective memory allows me to remember twin trap
every other game has been exactly this with RC- Toranaga
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btw cheeky the only reason I'm bringing up you're not good at reading me is because you decided to just call me scum instead of interact with me in any manner, and that's whatever really, I don't mind, but you shouldn't be this confident and I wish you'd find me in this game instead of call me scum for whatever reason you're calling me scum. I don't mean to be rude, just keep in mind you don't have a strong handle of my game.- Toranaga
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I'm embracing flicker's townread on me and I'll live in his pocket for the rest of the gameday- Toranaga
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wasn't that always your read? I don't remember you saying otherwise at any point.In post 215, RadiantCowbells wrote:I kinda think Elsa is scum too now lel- Toranaga
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I'd be ultimately townreading a couple of things TW said so far (I like his entrance and like his snark @ RC at some point) but I know TW can be a lot townier than this and I don't like his actual thoughts in the game so far. feels noncomittal and lacks depth.- Toranaga
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I think flicker is town. I like his townread on me cause there's nuance there. he is also the only person who understood what my read was re: elsa, or at least the only one who expressed it.- Toranaga
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it's notIn post 233, CheekyTeeky wrote:
This post is very contridictory. >.>In post 228, Toranaga wrote:I'd be ultimately townreading a couple of things TW said so far (I like his entrance and like his snark @ RC at some point) but I know TW can be a lot townier than this and I don't like his actual thoughts in the game so far. feels noncomittal and lacks depth.
I'm townreading tone and not townreading content. so when he opens with voting "no lynch", I find it towny. when he expresses his thoughts on flicker, I find it not towny. and I know he can be transparent when he is town.- Toranaga
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lmaoIn post 251, northsidegal wrote:-shrug-
i'm disappointed that you're misreading me but i expect you to realize your mistake soon enough.
i hope you realize that if i was scum i would be lurking now waiting for someone to get you angry so that you'd tunnel them and ignore me.- Toranaga
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uh ohIn post 287, the worst wrote:I don't really think Flicker is scum tbqh she feels about as awkward and uncomfortable as I'd kind of expect with her experience. scumreading her me drawing content out of her is kinda.... idk kinda really preschool level play but that might be because I'm TMI on my own alignment
is there a reason to scumread like either of us other than armchair "not enough scumhunting FRKM Flicker!!!!1!1!1!1!" or is this just a poor s/s read?
I have a popcorn scum tell on you from yesterday that you displayed here
this thing about you having TMI on your alignment and therefore yadda yadda- Toranaga
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yeah I thought that post nsg made scumreading flicker was scummy, but when she reiterated RC should "wait" on his read and what she'd do as scum instead, I really feel that comes from town!nsg quite often. her self meta feels genuine too. she doesn't post as scum and would wait for RC to choke himself instead of arguing with him and being ITT like she is, at least from what I know of her scum game.
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what's the difference? I eventually voted someone else. I don't remember when was the last time I unvoted someone for any reason other than to avoid a majority lynch.In post 332, CheekyTeeky wrote:
Then why didn't you unvote her?In post 319, Toranaga wrote:yeah I thought that post nsg made scumreading flicker was scummy, but when she reiterated RC should "wait" on his read and what she'd do as scum instead, I really feel that comes from town!nsg quite often. her self meta feels genuine too. she doesn't post as scum and would wait for RC to choke himself instead of arguing with him and being ITT like she is, at least from what I know of her scum game.
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never do what?In post 339, Reasonably Rational wrote:
I need to pay more attention on my reads. Hopefully Drixx will do a more thorough reading later, but yeah, I missed this.In post 332, CheekyTeeky wrote:
Then why didn't you unvote her?In post 319, Toranaga wrote:yeah I thought that post nsg made scumreading flicker was scummy, but when she reiterated RC should "wait" on his read and what she'd do as scum instead, I really feel that comes from town!nsg quite often. her self meta feels genuine too. she doesn't post as scum and would wait for RC to choke himself instead of arguing with him and being ITT like she is, at least from what I know of her scum game.
How significant is this Toranaga? Does scum!nsg never do this?
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scum!nsg doesn't even play the game at all so her self meta is probably accurate.- Toranaga
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why don't you give me a reason? so far you're just calling me scum for nothingIn post 343, CheekyTeeky wrote:Guys I'm pretty sure Tor is scum.- Toranaga
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agreeIn post 341, the worst wrote:hrm Cerby you read different here to Heroes Wanted. why is that?- Toranaga
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I like my own posting :shrug:In post 359, CheekyTeeky wrote:
My reason is that I've played enough with you to know you're better than this and you take a more aggressive stance which inadvertently leaves you leading the town. You're sheeping, tmi'ing, and not bouncing reads off me at all, which you do when you think I'm town.In post 356, Toranaga wrote:
why don't you give me a reason? so far you're just calling me scum for nothingIn post 343, CheekyTeeky wrote:Guys I'm pretty sure Tor is scum.
I don't wanna be aggressive, because if I'm aggressive I'll self vote and tell everyone to go fuck themselves because I don't wanna deal with any of your tunnels right now. I don't like playing with RC, I don't like being pushed for nothing scummy I did or because I'm being misinterpreted and I find your way of reading me through having me getting wagoned pretty annoying but I don't wanna be a dick so I'm not being one.- Toranaga
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and I was bouncing reads off of you until you went "blablabla I'm so sad you're scum"
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am I supposed to follow you around until you notice me? I'm here solving, girl. I reached out to you, you ignored me, kept tunneling me, and now you're saying I'm the one who stopped. if you think my reads are crap and I'm not playing well enough to be town, that's cool.In post 381, CheekyTeeky wrote:
True I guess we were disagreeing on Elsa. But why would you stop just because I called you scum? That doesn't change the way you see my alignment and it in no way helps me to correct my read if you withdraw?In post 378, Toranaga wrote:and I was bouncing reads off of you until you went "blablabla I'm so sad you're scum"
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