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Post Post #17 (isolation #0) » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:13 am

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so many cheesy jokes

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Post Post #19 (isolation #1) » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:16 am

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In post 15, Garmr wrote:Last time town rushed it and got another townie killed. Then day 2 scum did it. Then town was like derp he must be town. Then scum shoot me for saying the guy was probably scum (i think thats why)died.
lol, I was thinking of reading people this way...

btw, the game is nightless, so isn't dueling in the early game phases like super harmful?
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Post Post #21 (isolation #2) » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:06 am

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every time someone posts a cheesy joke, god kills a kitten

stop making this world sad you damn idiots
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Post Post #23 (isolation #3) » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:28 am

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In post 22, BuJaber wrote:
In post 19, ejjinami wrote:
In post 15, Garmr wrote:Last time town rushed it and got another townie killed. Then day 2 scum did it. Then town was like derp he must be town. Then scum shoot me for saying the guy was probably scum (i think thats why)died.
lol, I was thinking of reading people this way...

btw, the game is nightless, so isn't dueling in the early game phases like super harmful?
Because of white flag? Maybe but like ... towncred + potentially killing a townie + veng kill if they lose.
wait, what?
are you talking about town or mafia? I'm not following
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Post Post #28 (isolation #4) » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:45 am

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Io wrote:I mean, really I don't think the duels do anything.

It just makes the game go by faster because it makes it double lynch nightless.

Duel is literally just another lynch as it's the exact same mechanic.
I don't think the duel mechanics should be used early in the game, because it brings town more harm than good.
Like, there's no need to rush to get the additional day lynch, because scum aren't able to kill at night anyways
so we can just take our time and not worry about all of that

and even though people might think that they've got solid reads early in the game, all of that usually ends in everyone changing them later anyways
so forcing people to vote among 2 people early in the game is illogical.

It might make sense, late in the game, if scum get near majority, but doing it early on is just not needed
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Post Post #39 (isolation #5) » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:03 am

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In post 30, Shoshin wrote:Hey Ejji, help me lynch Walt?
why watt?
In post 31, Io wrote:
In post 26, Walt wrote:Except you're locked in to two wagons that aren't necessarily consensus

Pedit: @io
And?

It's still a second lynch. Although you have less choices it's still the same as a lynch.
Are your early reads perfect? Don’t you ever change them later on?
If yes, why rush things when you can’t even back out of it later? You’ll just end up in a situation where you (conf town from your pov) are in a duel with your previous SR, which is now a TR.
While the risk might be worth it late in the game, why rush it early on? Wouldn’t it be better to just wait a few days more just to get that chance to back out if sth unexpected happens?
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Post Post #40 (isolation #6) » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:04 am

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In post 32, Io wrote:I'm just saying I don't think it changes anything.

Lynching 4 people is the same as dueling 2 players and lynching 2 only it's day 3 instead of day 5.
it being day 3 instead of day 5 makes a big difference imo
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Post Post #42 (isolation #7) » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:07 am

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In post 36, Io wrote:Guess it's a perspective thing.
Also kind of depends on how you use the duels.
We could always for example as a majority force 2 players we think are scum to duel each other.
wait, actually, that's an interesting idea :I
idk how would it work, but you've got my attention
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Post Post #45 (isolation #8) » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:25 am

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In post 41, Io wrote:Yes, I am flawless. No I do not change reads unless I'm a Cop.
Why rush things? Because last time I decided to make compromises and let someone I was confident scum not hang they survived to the end and scum won.
But yeah no. If you're confident someone is scum you'd be stupid to let them live and not try to lynch them, duel them, or make a case on them.
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In post 32, Io wrote:I'm just saying I don't think it changes anything.

Lynching 4 people is the same as dueling 2 players and lynching 2 only it's day 3 instead of day 5.
it being day 3 instead of day 5 makes a big difference imo
Not really since duels add time almost equal to a whole day anyways.
but you can't back out of it
it's good late game, because of the rising scum influence, but early in the game it's just unneeded
jeez, that's what I was talking about the whole time

i guess it would be hard to convince someone with a really confident read,
but...
if most of the players in the game are town...
and they think your read is weak..........
and the game is in its early stages, so you'll have a lot of time to observe your target and see if it's you or them who is being stupid...
...........

sigh, I mean, it obviously doesn't apply to people with an obvious meta and stuff like that

but idk, I guess it depends on experience :/ I don't think I'll be dueling anyone early on anyways.
Perhaps later in the game, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
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Post Post #46 (isolation #9) » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:27 am

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In post 43, Io wrote:
In post 42, ejjinami wrote:
In post 36, Io wrote:Guess it's a perspective thing.
Also kind of depends on how you use the duels.
We could always for example as a majority force 2 players we think are scum to duel each other.
wait, actually, that's an interesting idea :I
idk how would it work, but you've got my attention
Well it's mostly a thing for when there are only 2 scum left.
If we come to a consensus "Player X duel player Y" then if they are both scum they will not duel each other because scum would instantly lose by default.
Therefor it can be used as a sort of Parity Cop where we know if both refuse to duel then they both have to be scum but otherwise if they agree we know at least 1 is town.
whoa :O that's kinda cool
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Post Post #48 (isolation #10) » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:31 am

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In post 47, Io wrote:I don't know why people act like not being able to back down is a bad thing.
This is the wild west not flag football. Step up and have some confidence in your reads.
and die miserably later on

idk, it might be just me. I generally tend to get paranoid about every single read when I get to lynching them
I mean, there are exceptions, but they don't happen very often
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Post Post #54 (isolation #11) » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:47 am

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Io wrote:I don't know about ya'll but in great state of Texas we shot first ask questions later.

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Post Post #57 (isolation #12) » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:53 am

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Hey walt, based on the stuff that was written till now, what is your read on sho?
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Post Post #347 (isolation #13) » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:11 pm

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In post 60, Shoshin wrote:It's actually kinda amazing how many words they've both said without moving the game anywhere useful.

Sigh, so do you agree with me or not?
You seemed to agree a few posts ago so if you really think about it, what you’re saying is dumb.

I’m not going to be very active in this game btw. I’ve been overworking myself for the past few weeks and I’m still not in a very good situation rn so I’m not planning to force myself to be active here. This is more or less a test if I can still play or not
I mean, I’ll still do stuff, cuz otherwise it wouldn’t be any different from just spectating , but just not to that extent as I normally want myself to do.

and I got prodded... lol -_- but that should be a one-time thing, I had a really rough day
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Post Post #348 (isolation #14) » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:13 pm

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In post 114, RadiantCowbells wrote:Walt is lockscum that reaction is never town
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Btw it's not just the rolling town

All the things he was thinking are straight up scum thought process
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Post Post #349 (isolation #15) » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:18 pm

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In post 116, BuJaber wrote:If the scumslip is legit Wh4t is town.
I don't think Walt wagons his buddy in RVS.
That’s might be just as dumb as the post I’m quoting, but I think that’s town indicative

The logic here is just awful. That post def felt like an easy sheep on RC’s read on Walt. Calling that a scumslip as if that was an obvious and final thing is also funny

And that should rather come from town than scum imo. Idek if I can explain it well, but the carefree stupidity doesn't really fit any scum motivation
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Post Post #350 (isolation #16) » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:20 pm

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In post 117, Walt wrote:I think the "I'm so sad I rolled town" routine is an act. I think you're painting it as a slip because you're doing what you said you'd do and try to lynch anyone who suspects you.
RC's dissatisfaction post is NAI imo. The irritation isn't linked to this game in particular, but to all games in general, so while the post might have been triggered by people SRing him, it doesn’t even have to be connected to his alignment.
And tbh if he tries to lynch anyone who suspects him, that would prob give a better read than this post.
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Post Post #351 (isolation #17) » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:22 pm

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In post 122, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 121, BuJaber wrote:
In post 110, RadiantCowbells wrote:Not so convinced on Ejjnami scum

Walt has very high scum equity here
What changed your mind?
Mostly that I think Walt freakout on me while saying I didn't trust my reads maybe maybe makes Ejjnami more town than not.
Lol, wait, you really are confident that walt is scum

I didn’t have any serious interactions with him, so if you were SRing me and him before, how did you get that “not SvS” read?
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Post Post #352 (isolation #18) » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:24 pm

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In post 68, Shoshin wrote:
In post 67, RadiantCowbells wrote:I wish I rolled scum here so I wouldn't have to deal with being town in this setup
That feels like a lie.
btw, that’s rather not SvS
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Post Post #357 (isolation #19) » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:34 pm

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wait, waht the fuck,why did you duel what? freaking hell, is it really that difficult to wait a few more days AND GO THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCEDURE WHEN IT CAN ONLY HELP YOU TO DO THAT? Like, what did you even gain by doing that>
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Post Post #359 (isolation #20) » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:37 pm

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wait, was it wh4t or walt
freaking hell, just what teh fuck
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Post Post #360 (isolation #21) » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:39 pm

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i need a break
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Post Post #448 (isolation #22) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:58 am

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In post 164, Garmr wrote: ejjinami-Says a whole of nothing a big fluff poster but the fluff isn't the joke game but the kind that looks like they are doing something. Can anyone confirm this is their playstyle/meta. Otherwise scum read.
that’s actually kinda hypocritical
I don’t get why do people SR me for that, I did what I wanted and I def think it was a good thing. If people don’t appreciate it then honestly fuck you.

I do not usually take that long to get reads. In my last games I went crazy with the early/overblown pushes and tbh even though it was prob good, it felt absolutely disgusting later on when I had to actually act on them or change them. You can find some of my previous town games on the site, it should not take long
As for scum games, those are my last ones:
ISO link (mafia neighbour)
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The posts in the ISO in the 1-st link are listed in reverse, so if you want to check, you have to start from the last one and go up. Idt it’ll take long, the game was a rather short one
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Post Post #449 (isolation #23) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:01 am

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In post 447, Nicolas Cage wrote:Alright walk me through the argument on Ejji. Is it just cause he does a lot of lamist posting? Cause I think he would do that as town too.

Are there specific posts that ping you or is it more the whole package?
how do you know I do that as town? I'm really confident I haven't ever played with you before
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Post Post #451 (isolation #24) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:07 am

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Ok, Walt’s last posts are actually terrible
The interactions with RC feel extremely fake
In post 143, Walt wrote:What the hell? You start a duel on someone who hasn't even posted because you don't want to play with them for some reason unrelated to this game? How is this helpful? Is this part of your game winning plan? If you hate being in this game so much why didn't YOU replace out?
In post 145, Walt wrote:But how is this helpful? Are you always such a selfish player?
That’s kinda ironic
In post 117, Walt wrote:I think the "I'm so sad I rolled town" routine is an act. I think you're painting it as a slip because you're doing what you said you'd do and try to lynch anyone who suspects you.
The change of attitude from “RC is scum” to “being set on asking about a town motivation in RC’s posts” is feels fake.
There was nothing in between the posts which could insinuate that Walt’s read on RC has changed, so his sudden change of attitude feels like he got scared to comment on RC’s duel, when he “knew it’s not scum motivated”
He’s beating all around the bush instead of simply stating his own opinion on the matter, as if he was afraid to do so
In post 212, Walt wrote:
In post 210, the worst wrote:
In post 209, Walt wrote:@RC help me understand something. Why would it have made a difference if wh4t had had a longer replacement deadline?
what do you expect to gain from asking this fam
Had a theory, but it sounds like it doesn't matter.

It seems most likely to me that this was a town fuckup.
In post 215, Walt wrote:
In post 213, the worst wrote:
In post 212, Walt wrote:Had a theory, but it sounds like it doesn't matter.
What's ths theory? Matters a lot.
I was trying to figure out why he thought the duel would have been any better with more time before the replacement deadline. Like, why not just wait and do the duel if they join the game if he thinks playing with them is so awful. It just didn't make sense.

So my theory was I thought maybe he had meant to duel me and got our names mixed up and then when he realized his error he felt like he had to lie about the reason for the duel.

But if he's not contesting the lynch, I don't think it really matters why.
Those posts are also awful. It feels like he was trying to analyze RC’s actions not to “determine his alignment” but just to “find out why are they NOT scum motivated”.

It’s obvious the duel WASN’T TOWN MOTIVATED. Honestly, I’m leaning on RC being town here maaaainly because of the interactions, but even if he is town, that was at least close to gamethrowing.

The action doesn’t make sense from a town pov
Especially the last post.
Walt taking the time to “hint” at him having a “theory about RC”, but not taking the time to read his alignment feels so much like stressed/disoriented scum
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Post Post #452 (isolation #25) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:11 am

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In post 273, Garmr wrote:I'm pretty tempted to just not post till rc is lynched or just replace out. Because Radiant is annoying me with their behaviour and attitude and I'm finding it a lot trouble to bite my tongue and be nice.
In post 274, RadiantCowbells wrote:fuck yourself mate it's not my fault you rolled scum.
Hey, it seriously is demotivating and it makes the game unpleasant to play when you only respond to players with either ignorance or insults. It really does hurt to get only that as responses to you putting in effort to play
A little empathy wouldn’t hurt
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Post Post #454 (isolation #26) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:17 am

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Actually Garmr might be scum. The reads in his posts felt kinda as if he put them there “just to have reads”. He doesn’t actually seem to care to interact with the other players to get better reads and most of the interactions I remember are from him yelling at RC. That’s not an entirely confident read, cuz I can see where could his focus on RC be coming from, but I don’t really like the stuff I’ve read from him thus far
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Post Post #456 (isolation #27) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:36 am

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In post 455, Nicolas Cage wrote:What's your read of xxtheworstxx?
I really don't like his playstyle. Most of his posts give me the feeling he could be easily bullshitting through all of his reads
and he's getting away with it so easily...
idk if it even means anything because no one is saying anything and I have no idea if that's AI for him or not. I literally don't know how to read it and it doesn't give me a good feeling
In post 218, the worst wrote:gut read Walt scum
other than that, this ^ originally pinged me as a possible town reaction, cuz he wrote that as a "spontaneous" response to the posts I'm SRing Walt for.

but the interaction is just so weak...


idk, if I don't get a solid read on him soon, it'll all prob end in me looking through his games later on.
I have no idea how to evaluate him rn
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Post Post #457 (isolation #28) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:37 am

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In post 294, XxtheWORSTxX wrote:RC isn't toxic
my school and teachers are toxic
he is
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Post Post #458 (isolation #29) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:39 am

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In post 306, BuJaber wrote:Garmr I felt seemed town because he was the only one discussing setup in a way that I felt was very well and clearly thought.
- trying to increase odds of lynching scum
- using past games' mistakes to change the approach this game
- discouraging early duels
It does happen a lot that people have ideas about the mechanics-strategies pre-game. I’ve seen it be planned more often than not, so that’s def not a good way to read him
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Post Post #459 (isolation #30) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:40 am

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Actually, I’m so freaking happy that I didn’t read the thread while it was happening. The last few pages were filled with so much shit
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Post Post #460 (isolation #31) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:46 am

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In post 324, Walt wrote:
In post 321, Shoshin wrote:That's not a towntell for RC.
Makes this duel all the more straightforward then, as long as I have a townread on PP
In post 323, AnonymousGhost wrote:
In post 317, Walt wrote:
@MOD can you clarify the plurality mechanic? The clock ALWAYS runs down, correct? There's no majority hammer mechanic, correct?
Yes, when plurality is used - instead of majority - then it's all determined by the clock and when it runs down. Whomever has the most votes behind them when time runs out will get removed from the game.

If it's still not clear, do not be afraid to ask for further clarification!
VOTE: RC
VOTE: PP
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Honestly, I ‘ve got no idea how to read PP, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it ended up being TvT, but I just really want to laugh rn
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Post Post #461 (isolation #32) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:48 am

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In post 335, Walt wrote:
In post 330, Shoshin wrote:Walt, why is PP town?
He's acting like there's a real chance he could lose this duel. Seems towny to me.
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Post Post #462 (isolation #33) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:54 am

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Spoiler:
In post 367, Garmr wrote:
In post 361, XxtheWORSTxX wrote:Wh4t.

Ejji is town

pedit: then that you should take
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If you look at what they're posting you'll not see a definitive read. They aren't pushing anyone they are just commenting on the situation. None of the comments are hard hitting or indicative.


The closet thing to trying to sort here is.
In post 352, ejjinami wrote:
In post 68, Shoshin wrote:
In post 67, RadiantCowbells wrote:I wish I rolled scum here so I wouldn't have to deal with being town in this setup
That feels like a lie.
btw, that’s rather not SvS
There's no attempt to sort him.
In post 350, ejjinami wrote:
In post 117, Walt wrote:I think the "I'm so sad I rolled town" routine is an act. I think you're painting it as a slip because you're doing what you said you'd do and try to lynch anyone who suspects you.
RC's dissatisfaction post is NAI imo. The irritation isn't linked to this game in particular, but to all games in general, so while the post might have been triggered by people SRing him, it doesn’t even have to be connected to his alignment.
And tbh if he tries to lynch anyone who suspects him, that would prob give a better read than this post.
Pretty much a defence of rc while avoiding stating what alignment they think they are look at any post involving rc it's a defence of him but not stating their read on rc.


There reason why there's no attempts of trying to sort players in ejinnami posts are because scum don't need to. They just need to look like they are doing something and stay out of peoples eyes.

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Post Post #463 (isolation #34) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:55 am

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In post 375, Shoshin wrote:the worst is scum, 100%
why?
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Post Post #464 (isolation #35) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:03 am

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In post 398, Garmr wrote:
In post 393, RadiantCowbells wrote:also I went back and verified my meta on garmr
not only is he perfectly willing to be as big and random of a toxic dick as he has been this game as scum
him being like this strongly points towards him being scum
STFU you are the toxic piece of trash not me you wouldn't got my backlash if you weren't.

Also if it's calling someone toxic and trash I've done that as town before (been banned for saying worse as town. When I told someone to shove something up their anus and fuck themselves among other things.)
shhhh, calm down sweetie, it's not your fault that the game is a really unrewarding one. Try to ignore RC and interact with the other players
Can you elaborate on your reads on the other players (except me and RC)?
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Post Post #468 (isolation #36) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:20 am

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In post 465, BuJaber wrote:PP is so town right now man did you read his answers to my questions and circumstances of his rep in?
can you quote them for me?

I don't remember him doing anything that would make me lean strongly on him in either way, but I'm kinda TRing RC rn, really SRing Walt and Walt does have a reaaaally awful read on PP. While I'd prob have to reread RC's and Walt's interactions, cuz taking RC's character, I'm not actually sure how much of it could be a scum gambit, Walt's read on PP is awful enough to make me want to lynch him just because of it.
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Post Post #472 (isolation #37) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:28 am

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In post 466, Garmr wrote:
In post 448, ejjinami wrote:
In post 164, Garmr wrote: ejjinami-Says a whole of nothing a big fluff poster but the fluff isn't the joke game but the kind that looks like they are doing something. Can anyone confirm this is their playstyle/meta. Otherwise scum read.
that’s actually kinda hypocritical
I don’t get why do people SR me for that, I did what I wanted and I def think it was a good thing. If people don’t appreciate it then honestly fuck you.

I do not usually take that long to get reads. In my last games I went crazy with the early/overblown pushes and tbh even though it was prob good, it felt absolutely disgusting later on when I had to actually act on them or change them. You can find some of my previous town games on the site, it should not take long
As for scum games, those are my last ones:
ISO link (mafia neighbour)
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The posts in the ISO in the 1-st link are listed in reverse, so if you want to check, you have to start from the last one and go up. Idt it’ll take long, the game was a rather short one
How is it hypocritical? What did you think you contributed with your posts till that point?
Look at the post numbers and see which page was I on back then. I didn't have any good reads back then, but there wasn't anything till then, which I'd want to base my reads on.
and neither did you nor prob the majority of the game.
So it's obviously invalid
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Post Post #473 (isolation #38) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:38 am

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In post 469, Garmr wrote:@EJJ

Can you tell me in dot points. What actions have you have done to further the game and what results have you got out of them?
  • I'm playing.

I don't actually care how much I do, because as I said before, I'm not going to force myself to do stuff, cuz it ALWAYS ends up in me getting overworked, worn out, stopping to read the thread just to get some sleep and having to wear myself down even more because of all of the catchups later.
You can look at my latest games in here, cuz I started and then replaced out of A LOT of games lately. I can even give you a few recent examples from the other forum I play on. The reasons I give are almost always the same

I still think I can play, cuz I feel rather good about this game, but do not expect me to go all crazy for contribution and progressing the game. If you want my reads, most of them are in the last few posts I made.
I could elaborate on the other players, but they're mostly null to me rn
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Post Post #475 (isolation #39) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:45 am

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actually, gotta go rn, so if you want me to write my opinions on some players, just write it and I'll do it later
Garmr wrote: That's not what hypocritical means. I think you mean unfair. Ok I will let that one slip a bit. Why did you do nothing to improve it with that fluffy style of saying nothing then. Because those posts after you got bumped were fluff as well.
nope, look at my posts till then and then look at your own posts. They are nearly identical imo considering the sheer amount about mechanics posts

idk, I think I've got rather good reads rn? I know who I want to lynch and I'm not really tempted to look into people's posts when there's the easier way of reading them through interactions.
I prob will do it if the interactions don't give results, but I really think I'm fine rn.
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Post Post #476 (isolation #40) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:53 am

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oof, just realized how terrible the grammar is in my last few posts...
but you get the point
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Post Post #515 (isolation #41) » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:34 am

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In post 477, Garmr wrote:So the only thing none fluff a was a scum read on me which can easily be addressed.
Hey @garmr, what exactly will you gain by telling me how much of a piece of shit you think I am?
If you want to look at what I wrote, then just look through my posts. It’s as easy as that.
I am not going to summarize my iso for you nor am I going to argue with you about it. The way I’m playing right now is good and I really don’t give a shit that you’re trying to prove how much better you are compared to me.

Will it give you any sort of benefit?
No.
So don’t waste my time
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Post Post #516 (isolation #42) » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:35 am

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Your push on me feels terrible btw. You’re taking my posts and turning them all around their tails while taking the opportunity to showcase how much more town motivation is in your posts than in mine.
That whole conversation is worthless

You’re tunneling me for close to no reason and you’re just freaking wrong
If you’re really trying to do sth here, then focus on some other players or just get a better argument, because what you’re doing right now literally makes no sense
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Post Post #517 (isolation #43) » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:36 am

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In post 501, FA_Q2 wrote:and...

VOTE: RC

This should not require explanation.
it does. Elaborate on your vote please
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Post Post #519 (isolation #44) » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:42 am

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In post 518, RadiantCowbells wrote:Ejj is town btw

like all of the time
omg, stop flip flopping
In post 502, BuJaber wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 366, PenguinPower wrote:RC is town. I wouldn't have replaced in if I didn't think he was.

BuJaber is still scum. Ejj is mebee. WorstBird is balancing between right now. Walt I dunno. Garmr prob town. Shoshin...not sure if I can townread, but townlean? Io is town that will probably end up scum. Nic Cage feels off so I'm going to put him in the middle with WorstBird right now until I can figure it out.

tfw RC is the only good townread you have and it's D1.
In post 429, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 427, BuJaber wrote:PP why does RC's alignment make a difference to you repping in or not? And did you know he duelled your slot before repping in?
I wouldn't want to lose a duel to scum!RC...I don't mind to town!RC. Yes, I knew he dueled my slot before requesting to replace it. It's the reason why I replaced in...this slot was never not going to end up losing the duel, and I'm quite sure that most people don't want to rep in to a gladiated slot, let alone one against RC.
In post 432, PenguinPower wrote:I agree with 2 out of 3 of his scum reads. I trust RC to influence this town more than I can.

p-edit

I've already answered that.


@ejj ^ the quotes you asked for

VOTE: RC
Actually, those are p good. :/ I can see where you’re getting it from

I’ll prob try to read RC again today, and prob walt just to see how confident I am in reading both of them like that, but I don’t actually mind switching to RC

Lol, that would be more of a PL rn
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Post Post #520 (isolation #45) » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:47 am

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In post 514, Garmr wrote:@ejj

Do you scum read Penguin power
No, he was kind of a null to me before, but I agree that his attitude towards getting lynched might be town indicative.
Honestly, both of the duelers are most prob town… idk what to do about it
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Post Post #521 (isolation #46) » Sat Oct 06, 2018 10:48 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #523 (isolation #47) » Sat Oct 06, 2018 11:06 am

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In post 522, RadiantCowbells wrote:ejj scum want me to die today because i'm onto them

not because PP is scum.
ik, honestly, one of the big reasons I want you alive is that you SR waltz and gamma and you'll give me an additional vote without me having to overexert myself to convince the others
and there's the interactions thingy, but tbh I prob shouldn't depend too much on it before actually getting a flip
I don't think I can actually read you besides that
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Post Post #637 (isolation #48) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:26 pm

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First off, @gramr Do not insult me. If you want to talk, tone it down a bit please, I really don’t want to be dealing with all of that right now.
In post 526, Garmr wrote: Also it took this long for them to comment on the reads of RC and penguin power even it took me enquiring specifically about penguins slot.
I do not feel obligated to post my reads on people if they are weak. I mean, I might, but that’s sth that would usually take me way more time than it’s worth it.
Again, IF you want to hear my opinion on someone, just ask.
I’ve been saying this for a while already, so do not just suddenly come at me yelling that I should have done sth, when you could have just asked for it if you really thought it was necessary.
Just let me go at my own pace

Besides, you obviously didn’t even bother to look through my posts before writing that. I did write my read on PP at least twice before you asked your question. The first one was in the post where I voted PP and the 2-nd one in , when BJ asked me to comment on PPs posts.
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Post Post #638 (isolation #49) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:28 pm

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In post 526, Garmr wrote:
In post 516, ejjinami wrote:Your push on me feels terrible btw. You’re taking my posts and turning them all around their tails while taking the opportunity to showcase how much more town motivation is in your posts than in mine.
That whole conversation is worthless

You’re tunneling me for close to no reason and you’re just freaking wrong
If you’re really trying to do sth here, then focus on some other players or just get a better argument, because what you’re doing right now literally makes no sense
You were the one who compared my posts to yours then I told you how I used mine to get reads and why they were different.
That was a conversation from the very beginning of the game. You SR me in for not having any content in my posts and I said that the read is kind of hypocritical. I wasn’t able to play for a while due to college and work reasons, so you were SRing me for my posts till page 4 and all you didn’t write much more till page 4 either.
This conversation has nothing to do with the posts later on.

You listing your posts and how were all of them town motivated felt unnecessary and kinda lamist.
I do not have a lot of time to play the game and I’m not going to waste time to look through my posts and list them for you while showing how town motivated they were, because you can do it for yourself.
Yes, I do think that I was actively contributing in this game.
And no, I do not plan to stop fluffing. Being positive and ranting about what comes to my mind generally tends to calm me down a bit, so you can just skip it if you don’t like reading it.
I’ve been trying to force myself to keep up that tough façade, push people immediately and be pro-active in FM for quite some time now, which tbh usually only kept made things worse and tended to end in me replacing out. Feel free to check my previous games, I think I linked a few scum ones and you can check my town games on MS, so it shouldn’t take long to skip through at least the first few pages of them.
Anyways, that’s a change I’m making intentionally and I don’t think I want to stop doing it. It prob wouldn’t be an improvement for me and tbh it doesn’t even hurt you or the game that much.

You might be right that I fluff a lot, but do not freaking simply “ignore” my posts, when I’m not.
You clearly didn’t even bother to look through my ISO even once, because if you did, you wouldn’t be devaluating me as much as you have been. Your pushes are big and emotional but they're based on nothing. If you say that talking about mechanics is fluff, then yes, I did fluff a lot in the first 3 pages, but you obviously didn’t even bother to look at my other posts since then.
It feels like, you’re either focusing just solely on the fluff posts for some reason or just simply pushing me without actually caring for your reasons, which is just simply bad.
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Post Post #639 (isolation #50) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:29 pm

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For example, this one felt absolutely terrible.
In post 477, Garmr wrote:
In post 473, ejjinami wrote:
In post 469, Garmr wrote:@EJJ

Can you tell me in dot points. What actions have you have done to further the game and what results have you got out of them?
  • I'm playing.

I don't actually care how much I do, because as I said before, I'm not going to force myself to do stuff, cuz it ALWAYS ends up in me getting overworked, worn out, stopping to read the thread just to get some sleep and having to wear myself down even more because of all of the catchups later.
You can look at my latest games in here, cuz I started and then replaced out of A LOT of games lately. I can even give you a few recent examples from the other forum I play on. The reasons I give are almost always the same

I still think I can play, cuz I feel rather good about this game, but do not expect me to go all crazy for contribution and progressing the game. If you want my reads, most of them are in the last few posts I made.
I could elaborate on the other players, but they're mostly null to me rn
So the only thing none fluff a was a scum read on me which can easily be addressed.
That was an OBVIOUS misrepresentation. I don’t know if you were just mindlessly trying to pick a fight with me or what, but that never comes from someone who legit cares about what they write. Had you read just only my last few posts, you’d notice how much bullshit that statement is.
In post 367, Garmr wrote:If you look at what they're posting you'll not see a definitive read. They aren't pushing anyone they are just commenting on the situation. None of the comments are hard hitting or indicative.

The closet thing to trying to sort here is.
In post 352, ejjinami wrote:
In post 68, Shoshin wrote:
In post 67, RadiantCowbells wrote:I wish I rolled scum here so I wouldn't have to deal with being town in this setup
That feels like a lie.
btw, that’s rather not SvS
There's no attempt to sort him.
Yes, a lot of my posts were simple comment or question ones. That was related to me catching up and still having at least twice as many pages to read later, so this is just sth you’ll have to deal with.
And yes, if I think that someone’s read is wrong I will comment on it regardless if I think I have an actual read on their target or not.

Reads are not freaking everything that can be done here.
The statement that my best read was the “non SvS” one was also a misrepresentation which honestly feels like shit.

That’s a link to my ISO starting from post 347, when I started catching up.
I’m not gonna say that I contributed an incredible amount of idek what, but the way you’re describing me is just a straight up lie

If you want to push me, then just don’t freaking distort the facts.
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Post Post #640 (isolation #51) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:31 pm

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In post 526, Garmr wrote:
Also a note eji said she town read both of the duelist but pushed penguin over rc. RC has shown to be anti town and dragging the game through the mud with their quick duel no brain thinking. You would think as a townie you wouldn't want to vote someone that impulsive if they are town reading both slots.
I didn’t TR PP at the time when I voted him and I had a TR on RC, which I explained a few times already.
Again, Do Not Distort My Posts.
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Post Post #641 (isolation #52) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:31 pm

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In post 542, Io wrote:when I looked back through Ejj's posts I noticed saying it was defiantly not a SvS duel.
That was Sho and RC, not Wh4t and RC. Actual-reads aside, I don’t think I’d be actually confident in interaction-reading RC for that duel, because he seems to be the type that might like to play risky.
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Post Post #642 (isolation #53) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:32 pm

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In post 553, RadiantCowbells wrote:That said the utter presumption of me being town + garmr's unexplained townread there gives me fairly good feelings about that flipping scum, SO like
let's say TW is really scum

that would make shoshin town
RC town
Penguin town (very very probably)
Nicholas cage town (very very probably)
IO i'm fine calling town OR scum that won't even matter because they are never getting lynched before endgame, just gotta track down dem partners
Ejjnami town

so

Walt
Gamr
Bujaber
FA_Q2

containing 3 scum
Can you elaborate on Nicolas? Is it an interaction read or do you have any other reason?
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Post Post #643 (isolation #54) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:37 pm

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In post 555, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm actually kind of happy to call it

FA_Q2->Garmr->Bujaber

or some variant

like Garmr first is optimal but I'm fine-ish letting Shoshin or whoever lead on FA_Q2
I disagree on BJ btw. I think there were quite a few posts which are town indicative and I didn’t actually notice anything from him that would strike me really bad.
In post 114, RadiantCowbells wrote:Walt is lockscum that reaction is never town

Let's look for a scum #2 so he can't vengekill anyone until we have solve.
In post 116, BuJaber wrote:If the scumslip is legit Wh4t is town.
I don't think Walt wagons his buddy in RVS.
I already wrote it before, but I don’t really see that reaction coming from a scum pov. That was a reaction after you wrote your spam of posts that Walt is lock-scum, while not really giving a reason for it.
That post felt like a dumb, spontaneous mental note caused by him “going with the flow” and overreacting to your early push on Walt.
That generally comes more often from town than scum.
I could prob see that as scum if BJ was scum with Walt and stupidly wanted to go for the easy distancing, but tbh I don’t really feel him doing it rn.

And I really didn’t get the feeling that BJ’s vote on you was a “stress reaction” caused by “you having good reads”. If that really was a stress reaction, you dueling a random guy would have been a PERFECT argument for him to use to lynch you. You could easily go as a PL and most prob no one would have even argued with that.
But BJ didn’t mention you in his reads for a long time and tried to convince others that PP should be town.
In post 465, BuJaber wrote:PP is so town right now man did you read his answers to my questions and circumstances of his rep in?
In post 502, BuJaber wrote:
Spoiler:
In post 366, PenguinPower wrote:RC is town. I wouldn't have replaced in if I didn't think he was.

BuJaber is still scum. Ejj is mebee. WorstBird is balancing between right now. Walt I dunno. Garmr prob town. Shoshin...not sure if I can townread, but townlean? Io is town that will probably end up scum. Nic Cage feels off so I'm going to put him in the middle with WorstBird right now until I can figure it out.

tfw RC is the only good townread you have and it's D1.
In post 429, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 427, BuJaber wrote:PP why does RC's alignment make a difference to you repping in or not? And did you know he duelled your slot before repping in?
I wouldn't want to lose a duel to scum!RC...I don't mind to town!RC. Yes, I knew he dueled my slot before requesting to replace it. It's the reason why I replaced in...this slot was never not going to end up losing the duel, and I'm quite sure that most people don't want to rep in to a gladiated slot, let alone one against RC.
In post 432, PenguinPower wrote:I agree with 2 out of 3 of his scum reads. I trust RC to influence this town more than I can.

p-edit

I've already answered that.
@ejj ^ the quotes you asked for

VOTE: RC
In post 503, BuJaber wrote:My read on PP is strong and from I see so far this playerlist is too stubborn to listen to anyone.
That feels more like town thought process imo.
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Post Post #644 (isolation #55) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:38 pm

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In post 558, RadiantCowbells wrote:Ejji at some point you have to raelize that Garmr isn't just pushing on you because he's wrong town, he's scum setting you up for a mislynch.
I am SRing Garmr. My early read on him might have been inaccurate, but I didn’t really get a great feeling from my interactions with him. I explained it just a few posts before, but my interactions with him felt like he didn’t actually care to check the validity of his read and was just using strong words and distorting the facts he already accepted before, to push the read forward.
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Post Post #645 (isolation #56) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:39 pm

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In post 608, Io wrote:Honestly Walt's a town read for me. I like a good deal of their posts and I feel like they are coming from town.
There's also that Gramr's been fencesitting about Walt which is indicative of a scum unsure how to read their ally.
But if I'm wrong about someone it'd be Cage or Walt. Though I don't really see that as a concern as we only need to lynch 2 scum and if Walt is that deep in hiding in the town then I don't really want to risk lynching them out of paranoia and having them flip town.
Can you comment on my case on walt? ()
And what do you think of my interactions with garmr
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Post Post #704 (isolation #57) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:55 am

Post by ejjinami »

Sorry, but I'll have to replace out. :( I mostly won't be able to play for a few days and there's actually quite a chance it's not one-time-only.
I prob shouldn't have joined at the start, but it was just stronger than me... I'll prob take a few months break from FM.

Garmr is prob scum because of the way he kept pushing me, Walt is scum because of his reaction to RC's duel.
Idrk about the rest, but if I were to guess, I'd say the most likely ones to be town are B-sth, PP and RC. I think I explained my reads on each of them before.

VOTE: PP
that vote is p much useless now, but tbh that's still where I'd like to lynch. I really doubt that RC is scum by his last few posts

Sorry for being a pain
gl
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