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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:31 am

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In post 193, Invisibility wrote:VOTE: soulshade
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In post 265, Invisibility wrote:how do i feel about soulshade L-1
hmm
anyone that lynches soulshade is a guilty man
not seeing this post is not an excuse
soulshade is at L-1
Your vote is part of what is keeping him at L-1, yet your second post makes it seem like you don't feel great about your vote.

People can and do do reckless things as both town and scum. I would think if you had genuine concern here, you'd unvote. IMO L-2 is for wagon pressure and L-1 is for a genuine desire to lynch, letting your target know this is his last chance to put up a defense. His contributions have not been great, but it seems like the intent here is to get him to say more and that conclusions have not yet been made about him.

So...your actions here are kinda odd.
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:33 am

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In post 299, Doughboy wrote:I’m getting too into this game. I need a break. Be back tomorrow.
Cool. I look forward to 10 more 1-sentence posts about how you think AP is guilty and little else.
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:16 am

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In post 300, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
In post 193, Invisibility wrote:VOTE: soulshade
fuunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfun
with my masterful deduction skills i have determined the this truly is the mafia
In post 265, Invisibility wrote:how do i feel about soulshade L-1
hmm
anyone that lynches soulshade is a guilty man
not seeing this post is not an excuse
soulshade is at L-1
Your vote is part of what is keeping him at L-1, yet your second post makes it seem like you don't feel great about your vote.

People can and do do reckless things as both town and scum. I would think if you had genuine concern here, you'd unvote. IMO L-2 is for wagon pressure and L-1 is for a genuine desire to lynch, letting your target know this is his last chance to put up a defense. His contributions have not been great, but it seems like the intent here is to get him to say more and that conclusions have not yet been made about him.

So...your actions here are kinda odd.
now you draw attention to it I guess that is saying “no lol hammers please”

Rather than what you said
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:22 am

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oh yeah if I haven’t already stated this my townread on ninja is now a scumread
Also telling people not to hammer = I’m not confident about my vote ok
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:25 am

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Btw I was memeing when I called soul the mafia because he told me to figure it out
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:28 am

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In post 302, profii wrote:
In post 300, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
In post 193, Invisibility wrote:VOTE: soulshade
fuunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfun
with my masterful deduction skills i have determined the this truly is the mafia
In post 265, Invisibility wrote:how do i feel about soulshade L-1
hmm
anyone that lynches soulshade is a guilty man
not seeing this post is not an excuse
soulshade is at L-1
Your vote is part of what is keeping him at L-1, yet your second post makes it seem like you don't feel great about your vote.

People can and do do reckless things as both town and scum. I would think if you had genuine concern here, you'd unvote. IMO L-2 is for wagon pressure and L-1 is for a genuine desire to lynch, letting your target know this is his last chance to put up a defense. His contributions have not been great, but it seems like the intent here is to get him to say more and that conclusions have not yet been made about him.

So...your actions here are kinda odd.
now you draw attention to it I guess that is saying “no lol hammers please”

Rather than what you said
I've read your post like 5 times and I still don't understand what you said.
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:32 am

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I hope you read my post one times yah yeet
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:56 am

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In post 305, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
In post 302, profii wrote:
In post 300, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
In post 193, Invisibility wrote:VOTE: soulshade
fuunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfunfun
with my masterful deduction skills i have determined the this truly is the mafia
In post 265, Invisibility wrote:how do i feel about soulshade L-1
hmm
anyone that lynches soulshade is a guilty man
not seeing this post is not an excuse
soulshade is at L-1
Your vote is part of what is keeping him at L-1, yet your second post makes it seem like you don't feel great about your vote.

People can and do do reckless things as both town and scum. I would think if you had genuine concern here, you'd unvote. IMO L-2 is for wagon pressure and L-1 is for a genuine desire to lynch, letting your target know this is his last chance to put up a defense. His contributions have not been great, but it seems like the intent here is to get him to say more and that conclusions have not yet been made about him.

So...your actions here are kinda odd.
now you draw attention to it I guess that is saying “no lol hammers please”

Rather than what you said
I've read your post like 5 times and I still don't understand what you said.
invis is saying

“Anyone who lynches soul [*****without going through the intent to hammer deal******] is scum [*****so no lol hammers please*****]
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:58 am

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In post 301, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
In post 299, Doughboy wrote:I’m getting too into this game. I need a break. Be back tomorrow.
Cool. I look forward to 10 more 1-sentence posts about how you think AP is guilty and little else.
Except I’ve done other things. I’ve definitely done more than you have. You have a vanity vote on LE. You aren’t trying to get others to join you. You aren’t trying to convince people that he’s scum.

Why? You can’t lynch le by yourself so why not be more proactive?

Like your knock against me is actually a compliment. You’re saying I’m working hard to lynch my scum read.

Thanks. You’re stil probably scum.
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:59 am

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In post 306, Invisibility wrote:I hope you read my post one times yah yeet
I usually have to read yours 2-3 times as well actually...
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:01 am

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Ninja knows what you said. He knows what invis was saying. He’s misrepping invis and playing dumb with you. What you said was very clear.

Now. Can you respond to my post I made to you a little while ago?
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:01 am

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In post 307, profii wrote:invis is saying

“Anyone who lynches soul [*****without going through the intent to hammer deal******] is scum [*****so no lol hammers please*****]
Yes, I understand that. And what I am saying is if he's really concerned about lol hammers, he should cancel his vote to guarantee that they do not happen. It's like locking away money in your safe vs. trying to tell robbers not to steal the money sitting right in front of them.

His motivations don't seem to align with the actions he would take if he really had such motivations.
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:02 am

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In post 270, profii wrote:
mod - is it possible to tidy that up ?
where's the fun in that? :lol:
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:04 am

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In post 311, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
In post 307, profii wrote:invis is saying

“Anyone who lynches soul [*****without going through the intent to hammer deal******] is scum [*****so no lol hammers please*****]
Yes, I understand that. And what I am saying is if he's really concerned about lol hammers, he should cancel his vote to guarantee that they do not happen. It's like locking away money in your safe vs. trying to tell robbers not to steal the money sitting right in front of them.

His motivations don't seem to align with the actions he would take if he really had such motivations.
L-1 is pretty pressury soul slot needs pressure
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:06 am

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In post 312, Skygazer wrote:
In post 270, profii wrote:
mod - is it possible to tidy that up ?
where's the fun in that? :lol:
Yea on 2nd thoughts it’s funny leave it in :D
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:07 am

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soulshade55r (L-1): BrightEyedFish, invisibility, Sephiroth, RCEnigma, Light Ethos, Sashaddin
Light Ethos (2): SuperfluousNinja, profii
AP (1): Doughboy
BrightEyedFish (1): tictac
profii (1): Kop
Doughboy (1): soulshade55r
invisibility (1): AP

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 will end in (expired on 2018-10-18 08:00:00).
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:10 am

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In post 308, Doughboy wrote:You aren’t trying to convince people that he’s scum.
In post 290, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
In post 288, profii wrote:I meant the bad wagons of AP and Soul

To be clear LE was not on Seph at all and that doesn’t factor into my vote

Yes I was on the AP wagon but once we fleshed it out, on balance of things AP isn’t the way to go right now - that’s why we wagon people right? Right... anyway most of my vote is based on him rushing over to soul - it just seemed like a safe vote that LE can argue he shouldn’t be criticised for later

So if I think back to the reason LE was on AP - he was way up in the technicalities of was it a vote or not right? Again, let’s say for sake of argument I’m right and AP flips town because LE is scum pushig it - afterwards he can argue well of course we should have voted that mess

Again - safe vote so yea
Gotcha. I guess I didn't think of the soul wagon as a "bad" wagon, but I can see what you mean about him jumping onto a new wagon and being able to share the blame if it goes awry.

In the last game I played with Light Ethos, he put the microscope on so many different things and a lot of different people. He had so many questions and so much suspicion that it was as if he felt like there were twice as many scum in the town than are actually possible. That was in a game with just NINE people. And now we're in a game with THIRTEEN people, yet somehow his energy is now focused on FEWER people, mostly just one guy far more than the rest. That just isn't like him. TL;DR I agree with your vote.
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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:12 am

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In post 308, Doughboy wrote:Like your knock against me is actually a compliment.
Trust me, the 1-sentence posts part was no compliment.
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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:22 am

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In post 313, Invisibility wrote:
In post 311, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
In post 307, profii wrote:invis is saying

“Anyone who lynches soul [*****without going through the intent to hammer deal******] is scum [*****so no lol hammers please*****]
Yes, I understand that. And what I am saying is if he's really concerned about lol hammers, he should cancel his vote to guarantee that they do not happen. It's like locking away money in your safe vs. trying to tell robbers not to steal the money sitting right in front of them.

His motivations don't seem to align with the actions he would take if he really had such motivations.
L-1 is pretty pressury soul slot needs pressure
Oh it IS pressury. I am not doubting that in the slightest, nor did I give even a hint of a suggestion that it was not pressury. My point is that L-2 is pressury as well and accomplishes the same goal of getting him to post more while not running the risk of an lol hammer.

Your post seems more like you're playing into something that a townie ought to say moreso than being a genuine townie comment. That's what my instincts are telling me.
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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:24 am

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In post 316, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
In post 308, Doughboy wrote:You aren’t trying to convince people that he’s scum.
In post 290, SuperfluousNinja wrote:
In post 288, profii wrote:I meant the bad wagons of AP and Soul

To be clear LE was not on Seph at all and that doesn’t factor into my vote

Yes I was on the AP wagon but once we fleshed it out, on balance of things AP isn’t the way to go right now - that’s why we wagon people right? Right... anyway most of my vote is based on him rushing over to soul - it just seemed like a safe vote that LE can argue he shouldn’t be criticised for later

So if I think back to the reason LE was on AP - he was way up in the technicalities of was it a vote or not right? Again, let’s say for sake of argument I’m right and AP flips town because LE is scum pushig it - afterwards he can argue well of course we should have voted that mess

Again - safe vote so yea
Gotcha. I guess I didn't think of the soul wagon as a "bad" wagon, but I can see what you mean about him jumping onto a new wagon and being able to share the blame if it goes awry.

In the last game I played with Light Ethos, he put the microscope on so many different things and a lot of different people. He had so many questions and so much suspicion that it was as if he felt like there were twice as many scum in the town than are actually possible. That was in a game with just NINE people. And now we're in a game with THIRTEEN people, yet somehow his energy is now focused on FEWER people, mostly just one guy far more than the rest. That just isn't like him. TL;DR I agree with your vote.
Have you only played with LE once? Or have you played with him more than once?
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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:29 am

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Anyway I'm going to step back for a while, both because of RL stuff going on today but also because I've said more than my fair share for now. So don't plan on any text from me for at least 8 hours or so.

Doughboy, I'm done talking to you. I think I've answered enough of your questions and the rest of what you have to say is "this is my opinion on you; what's your response?" My response to every single one of those questions is, you've drawn the incorrect conclusion. If you have a question for me, there's your answer. You drew the incorrect conclusion. Beyond that, I am throwing in the white flag of "this is just a game" and acknowledging that not only is it not fun to try and talk to him, it actually makes me incredibly pissed off and bleeds into my personal life which defeats the whole purpose of me playing a game. So yeah, I'm done with you man. Good luck with your scum hunting. Even if both AP and I were scum, there's still one more scum out there, so please start focusing your energy on finding that third person.
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:30 am

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In post 319, Kop wrote:Have you only played with LE once? Or have you played with him more than once?
Only once, admittedly.
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:32 am

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I agree with your vote =/= Actively pushing for his lynch.

You have more posts trying to stop an AP lynch or defending AP than you do trying to convince people to vote le.

That’s a red flag to me

I like the path kop is taking with that question
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:37 am

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In post 320, SuperfluousNinja wrote:Even if both AP and I were scum, there's still one more scum out there, so please start focusing your energy on finding that third person.
I’ve been focusing on more than you two though and if I actually caught 2 scum on day 1, I don’t really need to look for a 3rd.

I have 3 scum reads though. I even have a potential 4th.

So I’m good.
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:47 am

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In post 263, tictac wrote:@AP could ya link yourself trying to self-lynch as town semi-recently?
How about this? A self-hammer on D1

I man, I'm sure I've done it more, but not as a hemmer vote.
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