Mini Normal 2035 : Duck Mafia Part 1 : GAME OVER


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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:40 pm

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In post 438, FA_Q2 wrote:
In post 432, Tchill13 wrote:I don't think it should be her choice.
Why?

If she really is town vengeful then why give scum the opening to try and control the shot? What scenario do you think it is better that a revenge shot completely controlled by town should be not be so?
This is a good point, but I have a question about it -- do you think there is scum you think is trying to direct the shot? Or is this just a general principle you're talking about?
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:48 pm

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vote count 2.10
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nonny
(0) :
FA_Q2
(2) : Gamma Emerald, Flavor Leaf,
UnaBombaH
(0):
davesaz
(0) :
Completly Trustworthy
(0) :
Gamma Emerald
(0) :
Reundo
(0) :
Flavor Leaf
(0) :
Carcalilly
(3) : FA_Q2, wilky, Tchill13
Tchill13
(0) :
wilky
(1) : Reundo

not voting:
nonny, davesaz, Carcalilly, UnaBomaH, Completly Trustworthy

with 11 duckies alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

day two will end with no lynch in (expired on 2018-10-09 09:00:00)

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- wilky v/la until 8/10/2018
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:53 pm

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Going mostly from memory because I didn't get time to do that deep re-read, and most of this is low quality unless stated otherwise.

nonny - lurker
FA_Q2 - weak scum
Unabombah - saw a couple things I thought probably came from town
davesaz - role pm says town ;)
Completly Trustworthy - Doesn't seem to be stretching for scumreads quite as much as the last game we played together, probably town
TheHolySpirit - I copied and pasted the list from the OP and when I got to this one I went WTF? Is this player even in the game? replace by someone? I don't want to open another tab so I'll figure out where the issue was later.
Reundo - lurker and scummy
Flavor Leaf - town for the gambit
Carcalilly - vengeful claim, don't have an independent read on the slot
Tchill13 - isn't doing the normal leaping about and jumping to conclusions that I normally scumread him for when he's town. I see the post explaining that. I think I'll wait for some replies to decide
wilky - dunno, scum side of null I think
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:54 pm

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Ah, Gamma replaced TheHolySpirit. Townish feels there.
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:56 pm

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Somethings's wrong with my list because too many of the possible scum are lurkers. Gotta go do another thing for my wife, hopefully someone's awake to post while I'm doing that.
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:08 pm

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In post 478, davesaz wrote:Ah, Gamma replaced TheHolySpirit. Townish feels there.
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:06 pm

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In post 461, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Flavor Leaf, I think vengeful townies can kill anyone, not just people on their wagon.
I’ve seen it both ways.
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:07 pm

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In post 473, davesaz wrote:
In post 232, nonny wrote:
In post 231, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 229, Flavor Leaf wrote:Not gonna lie, I’m pretty pissed about that night kill.
But it makes sense.

Which is why this next part is gonna be fun.

I’m an odd night watcher. 2 people targeted Profii last night.

I am disappoint. Very disappointed.
You don’t have to say names but do you know which two?
This could be scum trying to check whether it's safe to lie or not.

Yeah, i thought this as well.

This is the most work I’ve ever seen Dave do, for what it’s worth. I’ve seen him as scum more often than town, too.
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:41 pm

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In post 481, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 461, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Flavor Leaf, I think vengeful townies can kill anyone, not just people on their wagon.
I’ve seen it both ways.
Vengeful can kill anyone
Super saint is locked to hammerer (but that’s not normal anyway)
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:50 pm

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In reply to Gamma Emerald, you haven't taken any of the weird stances that make it harder for me to read you. So far this game is an exception to the general rule that I can't figure out where you're coming from.
In post 139, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 135, profii wrote:
In post 131, Gamma Emerald wrote:Carca and Profii: you should be voting
Where should I vote
I’d like it if you’d vote TiphaineDeath
But you should have a vote SOMEWHERE.
In post 179, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay
I was figuring you were going to say sheeping, I was gonna ask why not one of the other wagons if that was your answer
In post 301, Gamma Emerald wrote:I want everyone to vote in their next post with a one sentence explanation of why they’re voting who they are voting
I think these are town motivated. In a game with short deadlines it's essential to get votes out there sooner rather than later.
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:14 pm

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In post 479, davesaz wrote:Somethings's wrong with my list because too many of the possible scum are lurkers.
A very "aware" notion imo.. while good, I havent seen anything like this from you ever before, so feels a bit weird though? :lol:

But I'll try to turn this into a question now -
in this specific game, don't you think we could actually, for once, have a full lurkerteam of scum?
:]
I have my own thoughts on this, and will share them in full if dave first gives his in-depth answer..
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:21 pm

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In post 483, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 481, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 461, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Flavor Leaf, I think vengeful townies can kill anyone, not just people on their wagon.
I’ve seen it both ways.
Vengeful can kill anyone
Super saint is locked to hammerer (but that’s not normal anyway)
I meant like I’ve seen vengeful only be able to choose from the people on the wagon. I know the supersaint stuff.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:32 pm

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Idk I’d the wagon-only thing is normal-allowed with the strict rules about roles having one way to function
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:51 pm

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In post 487, Gamma Emerald wrote:Idk I’d the wagon-only thing is normal-allowed with the strict rules about roles having one way to function
Variant, but yeah, i get ya. I think Ive only seen it like that in themes, so yeah.

I don’t really have much else to say in this game.

I’m liking dave right now, though.
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:23 am

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In post 461, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Flavor Leaf, I think vengeful townies can kill anyone, not just people on their wagon.
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:24 am

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In post 465, Completly Trustworthy wrote:On second thought, I don't really think that lynching Carca is a good decision. There are probably 8 townies and 3 mafia assuming a 10:3 setup. Lynching Carca creates a scenario where killing a townie results in mylo if the night kill succeeds. There will probably be seven townies and 3 mafia if Carca is lynched, so the risk of that scenario is 70%. Its a better move for everyone to say who they would prefer Carca to vengekill and then to lynch whoever is suspected the most.
Save my Lynch for later so we might still have a chance in mylo or lylo? :p
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:05 am

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In post 485, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 479, davesaz wrote:Somethings's wrong with my list because too many of the possible scum are lurkers.
A very "aware" notion imo.. while good, I havent seen anything like this from you ever before, so feels a bit weird though? :lol:

But I'll try to turn this into a question now -
in this specific game, don't you think we could actually, for once, have a full lurkerteam of scum?
:]
I have my own thoughts on this, and will share them in full if dave first gives his in-depth answer..
I think I question my own reads often, if that’s what you’re talking about in the first part.

It’s seeming more likely that at least 2 scum are lurking. We don’t see anywhere near as much agenda pushing as normal imo. No time for a wagon switch, my candidates for venge if it’s real would be nonny and wilky I think.

VOTE: carcalilly

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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:32 am

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Alright, there seems to be no time left.
VOTE: Carcalilly

Carca, please kill FA, Nonny, or Wilky.
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:49 am

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Badcuse me one second
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:49 am

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Ok yeah
Intent to hammer
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:06 am

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Did somebody say L-1?

VOTE: Carcalilly
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:07 am

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In post 492, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Alright, there seems to be no time left.
VOTE: Carcalilly

Carca, please kill FA, Nonny, or Wilky.
I agree with this
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:10 am

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OK, agree with the notion for Carca's shootpool then.
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:26 am

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Is that for sure lynch? Feel silly adding one more vote for nothing.

Understand why I’m in the pool so not going to argue with it, can see outside perspective where it looks I’m lurker, agree with the other options.


Apologize for my activity level, I should have /out’d before this started because accidentally over committed, but really don’t want to replace. Should be able to give more attention here if I’m around for day 3. (Not trying to AtE just feel need to give explaination, take it how you will).
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