Boundaries of Reality - [Game Over]

[hebichan]

Why is nancy assuming that there is a scum desperado?I've read the set up and I don't get why you would assume sum would have a dayvig.

Ugh toss up between that and lady right now.

Guess I can see nancy's stuff coming from paranoid town.

VOTE: lady

[Wisdom]

because read previous fg games, hebi

[Varsoon]

Did the previous FG games have a scum role that killed -and ended the day-?
That's the important part
Like scum getting a gated vig, whatever
but if it ends the day
eugh

Like I said, the conclusion that makes more sense is that scum would have a miller, but, then again, I was leaning more into that when I thought desperado died when hitting Millers soooo
I dunno.

[Wisdom]

if they can only shoot millers its limited enough, no? Its not like they can kill whoever they want

[hebichan]

If they can only shoot millers, wouldn't it make sense they are angling to shoot millers?

[Wisdom]

yup but they may opt to not claim desp at all

[Varsoon]

Yeah that does,
I messed up earlier because I'd thought the role said it'd fail on town and millers.
But what I'm saying is that even if it is gated like that for scum, ending the day seems like a huge deal and contrary to how mafia tends to work where the day-death that ends the day is decided by town.

[Varsoon]

Why would desp claim in the first place?

[hebichan]

I don't really see a point to it this early on.

[Varsoon]

Why is nancy assuming that there is a scum desperado?I've read the set up and I don't get why you would assume sum would have a dayvig.

I think the logic is that in previous games by this mod there's been a running theme of
~5 people with a basic, kinda useless role (like Miller here)
~3 people with a more useful role (like Desperado here)
At least 1 scum with one of those roles

So the assumption is that scum would have something to key them into the fact town has a lot of desperados or millers, and likely scum has a miller or desperado, but scum having a desperado is a more mechanically interesting design even if it's problematic because, as the mod made real clear, any death during the day ends the day.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why is nancy assuming that there is a scum desperado?I've read the set up and I don't get why you would assume sum would have a dayvig.

I think the logic is that in previous games by this mod there's been a running theme of
~5 people with a basic, kinda useless role (like Miller here)
~3 people with a more useful role (like Desperado here)
At least 1 scum with one of those roles

So the assumption is that scum would have something to key them into the fact town has a lot of desperados or millers, and likely scum has a miller or desperado, but scum having a desperado is a more mechanically interesting design even if it's problematic because, as the mod made real clear, any death during the day ends the day.

This is why Kokichi asking for a hip fire on me is a scum play fyi

[Wisdom]

it was silly but i dont think it was scummy

[Varsoon]

I don't exactly understand
is it 'cus scum could lie and claim the kill since you're miller?

[Varsoon]

Wait
no one would want to claim the kill if you flipped miller though
I don't get it

[Wisdom]

varsoon they kill via bolding inthread

its not like they can

not

claim the kill

[Varsoon]

Like maybe I could see them trying to play it off like "Oh I was the one who shot them"
but it seems like a lot of people have come to the conclusion that scum could have a desperado so
what's to stop that from just getting turbolynched rather than considered town-by-role?

P-EDIT:
Oh, okay, that makes a lot more sense

[Gamma Emerald]

It’s because he’s essentially calling for the day to end on page 7, when there’s still plenty to discuss

[Varsoon]

Also makes more sense
And then because people are pretty sure scum's got a desperado
even if you flip miller
it doesn't clear whoever shot you
so it's a scum thing to ask for
Yeah that's fucked up

[Wisdom]

anyway, lady votes. Both of you

[Varsoon]

:/
I still want Nancy to respond
but yeah she probably will even without my vote being on her
What's Lady currently at?

[Wisdom]

she has 3 or 4 votes i think

[Gamma Emerald]

I’ll read what you said about LA

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t see what super scum indicative there? The combined thoughts in LA’s first post was explains exactly how I figured it would be, and while I dislike her pushing me, it’s a fair analysis

[Varsoon]

the one-for-one parrot of what you said really sticks out to me
Kokichi feels worse given what I've realized this page but
VOTE: Lady
I think scum is more likely to try to come in, say some townie things, then coast and avoid desperados by being out of people's attention

[Wisdom]

Ill make it easy for you

Marquis is right tho, Dunn claiming miller doesnt change a thing.
But I dislike more Gamma randomly coming and going "Oh yeah im a miller too" after other people claimed miller.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald
That miller claim is super shaky and more looks like you jumped on it for town points than an actual miller claim.

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If you're a desperado. I say hip fire gamma since his Miller claim was not early or first post

why would you encourage desperados to hit millers

Kokichi asking players to desperado millers when the desperado role kills millers like scum is a little ridiculous on day one. Wouldn't it be better to wait and reduce the number of possible misfires first?