mini normal 2027: advice mafia (endgrame)

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VOTE: CT

you know what u did

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he knows

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h

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yea u would say that wouldnt u

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i feel like i single handedly inspired that mod note

i'm not sure what that saud entrance was actually it felt v forced

VOTE: Saudade

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i remember you now
you lynched me as vanilla town in our previous game together for the exact same reason
dont remember your alignment tho but you might want to review how you read people

wrong I SR'd you in 733 for AtE and lack of reads

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I didn't say I was voting for him because he declared himself town

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I was talking to RC sorry

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oh hey this game

reading more in depth tonight

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Sheeping RC hasn't done me wrong before

VOTE: Wh4t

ok but fr gonna try to catch up now

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like reading a back and forth like that is so draining especially when the gamestate indicates most of yall are probably town

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*most of yall arguing

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finally

heck off

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RC pls stay like ur my only townread based on play here, I promise things'll get zestier from my end if not today then def D2

also I feel like Wh4t just scumclaimed there

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actually it might get zesty tonight i just quit quitting smoking n my brain is less fried for now unless i end up getting dr*nk tonight

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does ur government give out free patches? can u buy a vape? i got some free patches the first time i quit for real, the second time my roommate gave me her vape but it broke

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I'll be goin through my reads slowly tonight

RC is locktown, like he was town since his claim but he also just spewed himself as town w that replace out imo unless im angleshooting myself in the foot

Saudade is 90% town based on play/gamestate but fck ive been tempted to push their lynch just for policy

also i need to watch airplane probs

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everybody else is ??? but im going to push through some sorting tonight and see what i arrive at

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OH and CT is town, like the overeager approach im seeing here matches up rlly well with what I saw in 1882, I don't think someone that new could perfectly replicate their town game like this as scum

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I think horror gave me town pings w that replace out, for a while I was thinking he could be coasting on this game state but nope he replaced out

I think after just finishing two games w town HWS and scum HWS respectively so hopefully i'll be able to sort that slot better but I don't remember any of the posts he's made off the top of my head atm

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FA_Q2 iso:
I think 102 is more likely to come from paranoid town even if it is misguided
but 105 is rlly meh
106 is ??? like an accusation of active lurking on like page 5 feels like they're just looking to shade ppl
108 and other interactions w Wh4t means that FA is unlikely scum w Wh4t i think?
247 at least shows he has townreads so he's at least sorting or trying to look like he's sorting

I think this could get sorted with a Wh4t flip if we're lucky so I'm not going to worry about it until he posts more, nothing else there rlly worth commenting on

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this night has not been the best,, if anyone wants to send some vegan ice cream my way im down for any flavor

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i was about to do a really snarky post about frederick's iso but decided against it

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im fine tho i just had my parents cancel on me and my roomie go away to housesit w/o telling me she was planning on being away this weekend so i'm just kinda suddenly alone right before the start of my last semester n its rlly disorienting when combined w general anxiety and that kind of stuff

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I like wh4t they gives me the fuzzy town feelings.

Would also like to point out Saudade is acting the same way he did in the scum game I mentioned before.

Hard scum reads
Doubting thomas,Saudade

Null scum-
IAI

Null-town
WH4T, Tex Kitty Cat

Town
Havo

Confirmed Town
garmr

Fixed

maybe garmr? idk
pedit: lmao

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ye i mean i'm not rlly feeling scum-CT atm anyways but that's mostly for meta

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I haven't looked into IAI yet

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brb smonkin

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i just looked at IAI's iso and suddenly realized why i had no thoughts on them yet

i don't think an IAI lynch would yield any info until that slot gets replaced so the fact that he's getting wagoned is ???

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i think you said something about this already or something similar about their isos but the way havo hops on the IAI wagon and wh4t puts IAI at L-1 shortly after, both with little reasoning, makes it unlikely in my mind for havo and wh4t to be scum together

like,, that'd be way too reckless for two scum to do, right??

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quick (keyword: quick) meta dive makes me think DT's posts are town

maybe null at worst

n like i don't see scum playing that vocally here, esp in this game state

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RC how can you town read Doubting Thomas I don't care your scum reading me but how can you be that bad to town read doubting thomas?

"i don't care about being scumread so i'm definitely not deflecting or anything but btw this person is scummier than me"

agree w/ RC tho and like a wh4t scum flip here will solve like most of the puzzle we've been workin on

like RC is 100% town and is 100% confident in his wh4t read so

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the way you talk to me scares me

it means so much to me if my completed scum games have you this shook

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RC how can you town read Doubting Thomas I don't care your scum reading me but how can you be that bad to town read doubting thomas?

"i don't care about being scumread so i'm definitely not deflecting or anything but btw this person is scummier than me"

agree w/ RC tho and like a wh4t scum flip here will solve like most of the puzzle we've been workin on

like RC is 100% town and is 100% confident in his wh4t read so

How can one be deflecting when a case hasn't been laid.

i mean RC has laid out his reads and ur actively trying to push suspicion onto someone else instead so

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this particular thing is not a meta thing ftr

worry about me D2 bb

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i mean i do like to buddy as scum

i think, barring one of our deaths, that RC will have me at locktown D2

not gonna elaborate further

u have a fair point tho

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a fair point regarding trying to convince RC about DT

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goin to bed now see yall tomorrow

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sleep is for the weak

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Hey finally it’s getting interesting.

ufh why does havo pop in after not posting for ~two days just to say this? like no thoughts, doesn't stick around, just says the obvious and disappears again

maybe im reading too much into it

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I feel like saudade's abrasiveness comes from town

I feel like when there was a state of a bunch of 2-3 person wagons scum was p content with that because nothing happened for so long and that also points towards saudade town

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well then

VOTE: Garmr

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eat vegetables

never

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yes i agree that thinking misogyny exists on the internet is a flawed ideology

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HI TW ARE YOU IN THIS GAME NOW

quack

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in b4 tw is a bulletproof tracker "vig"

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I think I'm gettin better at reading tw tho so this is v good

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tw if ur scum just go ahead and start open wolfing now itll make this easier for the both of us

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what do you see in texcat?

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I cant say shes town but i def wouldnt put her at the bottom when looking at others

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i was hoping i could get my town reads to read gamma for me here im not sure if ill be able to read them

why are garmr and wh4t null?

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whats ur read on schadd_?

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schadd_ + tw + ??? scumteam confirmed

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Spoiler: for skygaxsrs eyes only and if you're not skygaxsr don't click

I am clearly pocketing schadd_. stop this theatre silliness at once, this was not the plan.

also @anyone but skygaxsr if you're reading this you SUCK

gosh just let me bus u okay

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@sky what are your thoughts on tw's entrance

surface level the entrance is kinda bleh. like his townreads are kinda uncontroversial but i don't think he'd go for texcat of all people as scum? i feel like he'd sheep onto one of those two-vote wagons. and like while trying to figure out why his reads are where they're at was frustrating, i feel like he'd try harder at explaining his reads here as scum

unless i'm just overthinking all this

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i'd reevaluate after a garmr or wh4t scumflip because of those null reads

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i haven't completed any games with texcat so i didn't know she's easy to push with little resistance

tw why are you townreading RC?

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beetlejuiced

still too lazy to contribute rn though im too busy bingewatching avatar episodes

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they just found out omashu fell to the fire nation its some good shit

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hey RC

regardless of my alignment I wouldn't have asked you to stay if I knew that this game would continue to affect you this negatively and I feel like shit for keeping you in an environment like this, so,, sorry :/

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phase two in operation pocket tw

upload a duck avatar

um things are a little weird with the duck dont worry about it

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thanks bb

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i saw it in avatar n like while i cant be bothered to stop watching avatar to contribute ill def pause and take a screenshot and crop and upload for something that cute

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i guess u could call it an avatar avatar

...sorry

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i can try to photoshop together a weird combination

it'd probs be an abomination but thats even more tempting

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no regrets

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ive been told i have that effect

it wears off in about an hour

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rc u just called me beautiful that means we're scum buddies now

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lemme know when to stop the shitposting btw

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strategic prodge

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VOTE: FA_Q2

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hey RC see anything that changes ur mind about me?

its v subtle

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we're lynching your girlfriend first

is everyone here deadset on making me feel weird or

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like in this game:

ive been told im not gonna be a young hot lady forever

ive been accused over and over of buddying rc when i wanted him to stay in this game because i respect him as a player and enjoyed the few times ive interacted with him and wanted to try and make a bad experience more fun for him

not to mention that i started working more with RC *after* he pointed out how similar our town bloc is before i even knew his town bloc yet still thats somehow blatant buddying to you guys?

and like other things that genuinely upset me that i shouldn't bring up

and yall are wondering why im just shitposting and lurking rn?

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tw you are completely fine

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not at all

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I held my tongue which im usually good at but im kinda getting snarkier after seeing stuff like that and after just coming out of a game where someone mocked they/them pronouns

like i feel kinda jaded with this site at the moment. oh well. understandable that im still being suspected of buddying. dont worry, ill find a way to spew town eventually.

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gonna step away from this for the night sorry if ive been a downer

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oh hey im feeling better

was considering replacing out but decided against it

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thanks bb

rc why are you trying to give bread to a duck

the crumbs destroy their tummy

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apparently insects

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whats a ducks fave snack

quackers and cheese

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rc howd you find my secret gameplan

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tor is the_worst now

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I don't think RC is scum here

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I mean, I thought FA was scum too

That push does not look like it comes from someone that knows a mason flip is imminent

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RC is by no means obv town to me by the way

But he definitely isn't a good lynch today

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VOTE: Wh4t

I think this is a good lynch

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No game solving at this point beyond RC being scum

If I'm right about RC being town then RC is an easy mislynch today that scum-Wh4t could make with little effort

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CT and GE posted I think?

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Hi RC whats up

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its ok bb

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VOTE: Garmr

Knowing what I know there's like a 95% chance this is a fakeclaim unless town is way overpowered

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Umm I missed the part where he said he was planning on faking a guilty in a game soon.

FMPOV this really doesn't make sense as a legitimate claim.

I want to see what RC makes of this.

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VOTE: Wh4t

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prodge?

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gamestate wise with no one really pushing anything i think scum is probably fine with the game state here??

like Wh4t is still likely scum tho so i think that means associatively scum has settled with bussing to distance themselves

gonna try to work on more sorting tonight but i have a recital in three days that im not fully prepared for lol

ive been slow rolling some things and i think that its highly likely that whoever has been scumreading/shading RC without pushing may be scum trying to set up a later mislynch

now i just need to reread to figure out who that matches up with

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im fine w this

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we absolutely should not lynch rc

pagetopping this for emphasis

pedit: oh

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@schadd: can wh4t and ruby be prodded pls

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ty schadd_ !!

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UNVOTE: or we could wait for a replacement to show up or something ya know its not like we have 7 days or anything

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um he hasnt logged in in 6 days thats more site flakey than anything

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Hey tw just trust me that RC is town

r u scum

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like Wh4t is still likely scum tho so i think that means associatively scum has settled with bussing to distance themselves

there's three people on that wagon that aren't you when you said this

so you're gonna have to be a bit more specific and start naming names here

RC is not bussing here
between tw and (was it Havo?) i'm having trouble solving them at the moment

tw hasn't been openwolfing which like i can usually spot but he hasnt obvtowned yet either? ill look more into him after another flip cause i dont wanna lynch him

and no im not

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VOTE: Wh4t

wh4tever this is fine

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tw im p sure ur town here believe it or not

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so now that i know tw is town

VOTE: Havo

game state points towards bussing when RC, me, Havo, and tw were on the wagon. RC was town. I'm town. TW is town.

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There were no other big pushes going on at the time with scum sitting at the biggest wagon which points to scum being content with the wagon on wh4t which points towards bussing

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hi this is hell weekend for me but ill try to be around

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ruby tw flips green thats a bad vote

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@gamma ye but immediately after RC scumread ruby and got reactions he came back in and put them as their top townread so like it felt like a reaction test that ruby had passed

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so like that makes me very much not want to lynch ruby

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Can people put up cases instead of just giving naked reads like I am scum and TW is town, please show examples of scummy or towny things we've done this game?
Also, Skygazer, what changed between 1534 and 1611. How did you sort The Worst?

tw is town (:

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postin on page 69

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gut is telling me this isn't the same texcat that played as scum in 213 tbh

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CT-slot is still town btw for meta and being overeager town

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Town (Rough Ordering):
the worst (not explaining this too much just take my word that this is town-tw due to meta and stuff)
Ruby Red (sheeping RC's strong read here)
CT-slot (overeager town, matches town meta, feels like an easy mislynch tbh)
Garmr (have reason to believe the fake guilty comes from town after that one mini normal that I can't remember the number from)
texcat (feels different than 213? this is the weakest town read)

leaving Gamma, HWS, and Havo

I honestly am not sure how to read Gamma. I haven't seen any obvious differences from their town play and scum play here. Need to reevaluate but I probs wouldn't lynch this today.

HWS feels so different from 214 tbh and reminds me a lot of a newbie game we played together where he was scum and he would just pop in and make a reasonable post and disappear for a bit.

Havo I've talked about already.

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im kinda just getting back into the swing of things around here tonight because my first recital happened today and was p successful!

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woah there i almost got pocketed for a second :p

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(ill get back into this when replacements arrive)

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temptation to lolhammer... rising...

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but seriously garmr is likely town

like why aren't we lynching havo

and with two town slots likely to be modkilled that could both be townflips (CT is 85% town, HWS has like a 50% chance of flipping town imo) why are we just suddenly shifting to garmr here

ugh

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VOTE: Ruby Red

bad vote

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ugh my townreads keep dying

i would say rn my reads sit at:

town
Havo
BrianSkies
RubyRed

scum
Gamma
Nauci
Texcat

town is ordered, scum list has a lot of uncertainty

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im a little hurt i never received a fruit tbh

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oh right i have stuff to answer sorry itll happen tonight

have been kinda spacey lately

i agree wrt mass claim

should we come up with an order or do popcorn or?

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ditto

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early prodge

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I am a loud traffic analyst

N1 I checked RC and they couldn't communicate
N2 I checked the_worst and they couldn't communicate
N3 I checked Havo and they also couldn't communicate

Spoiler: softing/crumbs

I don't think RC is scum here

Also, hi *2 skygazer

Hi RC whats up

ive been slow rolling some things and i think that its highly likely that whoever has been scumreading/shading RC without pushing may be scum trying to set up a later mislynch

we absolutely should not lynch rc

Hey tw just trust me that RC is town

RC is not bussing here

tw im p sure ur town here believe it or not

the sky is green

so now that i know tw is town

...

TW is town.

ruby tw flips green thats a bad vote

Also, Skygazer, what changed between 1534 and 1611. How did you sort The Worst?

tw is town (:

Town (Rough Ordering):
the worst (not explaining this too much just take my word that this is town-tw due to meta and stuff)

ugh my townreads keep dying

i would say rn my reads sit at:

town
Havo

I didn't believe garmr's fakeclaim whatsoever with my role - while the masons serve to neuter it somewhat, if they're revealed i effectively become a cop until there's only one scum left. a watcher and a quasi-cop would be extremely overpowered set-up wise imo even with some scum buffs. i wanted to lynch the claimed mason because 1) RC was absolutely right that their interactions didn't look like a mason pair whatsoever 2) lynching one mason confirms krazy who could've likely been protected based on RC's jailkeeper enabler claim suggesting that there was a jailkeeper in the game 3) having the masons mod-confirmed would give my role a lot more functionality

like, in the ideal world we were supposed to have 4 clears here but that didn't exactly work out so

considering that it's known that there is no traitor, the only conceivable world in which Havo could be scum is if this game is 11:2 which i don't think is the case

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popcorn ruby!!

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in hindsight yeah i was beating myself up pretty heavily but i was hoping best case we'd lynch scum, second best we'd have a clear in krazy who's p competent and who i thought was likely to be protected by the jailkeeper

this is maybe 5th best scenario :/

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Spoiler: colorful vca

Vote count 1.1
Brian Skies (3): Nauci, Skygazer, Gamma Emerald

FA_Q2

(2):

Havo

,

Wh4t

Gamma Emerald (1): Brian Skies

Garmr

(1): texcat
Nauci (1):

FA_Q2

not voting (5):

the worst

,

Garmr

,

RadiantCowbells

,

Krazy

, Ruby Red

Vote count 1.2
Brian Skies (3): Nauci, Skygazer, Gamma Emerald

FA_Q2

(2):

Havo

,

Wh4t

Gamma Emerald (1): Brian Skies

Garmr

(1): texcat
Nauci (1):

FA_Q2

RadiantCowbells

(1): Ruby Red
not voting (4):

the worst

,

Garmr

,

RadiantCowbells

,

Krazy

Vote count 1.3
Ruby Red (3): Skygazer, texcat,

Havo

Brian Skies (2): Nauci, Gamma Emerald
Gamma Emerald (2): Brian Skies,

FA_Q2

FA_Q2

(2):

RadiantCowbells

,

Wh4t

Garmr

(2): Ruby Red,

Krazy

Krazy

(1):

Garmr

not voting (1):

the worst

Vote count 1.4
Gamma Emerald (3): Brian Skies,

FA_Q2

, texcat
Ruby Red (2): Skygazer,

Havo

Brian Skies (2): Nauci, Gamma Emerald

Garmr

(2): Ruby Red,

Krazy

FA_Q2

(1):

Wh4t

Krazy

(1):

Garmr

texcat (1):

RadiantCowbells

not voting (1):

the worst

Vote count 1.5

Garmr

(5):

Krazy

, Ruby Red,

RadiantCowbells

, Completely Trustworthy, Skygazer
Gamma Emerald (2):

FA_Q2

,

Havo

Krazy

(2):

Garmr

, Nauci
Brian Skies (1): Gamma Emerald

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

not voting (2):

the worst

, texcat

Vote count 1.6

Garmr

(5):

Krazy

, Ruby Red,

RadiantCowbells

, Completely Trustworthy, Skygazer

Krazy

(2):

Garmr

, Nauci
texcat (2):

the worst

,

FA_Q2

Gamma Emerald (1):

Havo

Brian Skies (1): Gamma Emerald

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

not voting (1): texcat

Vote count 1.7

Garmr

(3):

Krazy

, Completely Trustworthy, Skygazer

Krazy

(2):

Garmr

, Nauci
texcat (2):

the worst

,

FA_Q2

Gamma Emerald (1):

Havo

Brian Skies (1): Gamma Emerald

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

FA_Q2

(1):

RadiantCowbells

Skygazer (1): Ruby Red
not voting (1): texcat

Vote count 1.8

FA_Q2

(5):

RadiantCowbells

, Skygazer, texcat,

Havo

,

the worst

Garmr

(1):

Krazy

Krazy

(1): Nauci
texcat (1):

FA_Q2

Brian Skies (1): Gamma Emerald

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

Skygazer (1):

Garmr

Gamma Emerald (1): Ruby Red
not voting (1): Brian Skies

Vote count 1.9

FA_Q2

(6):

RadiantCowbells

, Skygazer, texcat,

Havo

,

the worst

, Nauci
texcat (2):

FA_Q2

, Ruby Red

Garmr

(1):

Krazy

Brian Skies (1): Gamma Emerald

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

Skygazer (1):

Garmr

not voting (1): Brian Skies

Vote count 1.10

FA_Q2

(6):

RadiantCowbells

, Skygazer,

Havo

, Brian Skies,

the worst

,

Garmr

texcat (2):

FA_Q2

, Ruby Red

RadiantCowbells

(2):

Wh4t

,

Krazy

Brian Skies (1): Gamma Emerald
not voting (2): Nauci, texcat

d1 final vote count

FA_Q2

(7):

RadiantCowbells

, Skygazer,

Havo

, Brian Skies,

the worst

,

Garmr

, Gamma Emerald

RadiantCowbells

(3):

Wh4t

,

Krazy

, texcat
texcat (1):

FA_Q2

Skygazer (1): Ruby Red
not voting (1): Nauci

Vote count 2.1

Wh4t

(3):

RadiantCowbells

, Skygazer,

the worst

Garmr

(1): texcat

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

the worst

(1): Brian Skies
texcat (1):

Garmr

not voting (4): Gamma Emerald,

Havo

, Ruby Red, Nauci

Vote count 2.2

Wh4t

(4):

RadiantCowbells

, Skygazer,

the worst

,

Havo

Gamma Emerald (2): texcat,

Garmr

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

the worst

(1): Brian Skies
not voting (3): Gamma Emerald, Ruby Red, Nauci

Vote count 2.3

Wh4t

(4): Skygazer,

the worst

,

Havo

, Gamma Emerald
Gamma Emerald (2): texcat,

Garmr

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

the worst

(1): Brian Skies
not voting (3): Ruby Red, Nauci,

RadiantCowbells

Vote count 2.4

Wh4t

(4):

the worst

,

Havo

, Gamma Emerald, Brian Skies
Gamma Emerald (2): texcat,

Garmr

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

not voting (4): Ruby Red, Nauci, Skygazer,

RadiantCowbells

Vote count 2.5

Wh4t

(5):

the worst

,

Havo

, Gamma Emerald, Brian Skies,

RadiantCowbells

Gamma Emerald (2): texcat,

Garmr

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

not voting (3): Ruby Red, Nauci, Skygazer

d2 final vote count

Wh4t

(6):

the worst

,

Havo

, Gamma Emerald, Brian Skies,

RadiantCowbells

, Skygazer
Gamma Emerald (2): texcat,

Garmr

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

not voting (2): Ruby Red, Nauci

Vote count 3.1

Havo

(2): Skygazer,

the worst

texcat (1):

Havo

Brian Skies (1):

Garmr

not voting (5): Gamma Emerald, Brian Skies, Ruby Red, texcat, Nauci

Vote count 3.2

Havo

(1): Skygazer
texcat (1):

Havo

Garmr

(1): texcat
Nauci (1): Brian Skies

the worst

(1): Ruby Red
Brian Skies (1):

the worst

not voting (3): Gamma Emerald, Nauci,

Garmr

Vote count 3.3
texcat (3):

Havo

, Gamma Emerald,

Garmr

Havo

(2): Skygazer,

the worst

Garmr

(1): texcat
Nauci (1): Brian Skies

the worst

(1): Ruby Red
not voting (1): Nauci

Vote count 3.4

Garmr

(3): texcat, Ruby Red,

Garmr

Havo

(2): Skygazer,

the worst

texcat (1): Gamma Emerald
Nauci (1): Brian Skies
Gamma Emerald (1):

Havo

not voting (1): Nauci

d3 final vc

Garmr

(5): texcat, Ruby Red, Brian Skies, Gamma Emerald,

Garmr

Havo

(2): Skygazer,

the worst

Gamma Emerald (1):

Havo

not voting (1): Nauci

[Skygazer]

whoops

[Skygazer]

Spoiler: corrected colorful vca

Vote count 1.1
Brian Skies (3): Nauci, Skygazer, Gamma Emerald

FA_Q2

(2):

Havo

,

Wh4t

Gamma Emerald (1): Brian Skies

Garmr

(1): texcat
Nauci (1):

FA_Q2

not voting (5):

the worst

,

Garmr

,

RadiantCowbells

,

Krazy

, Ruby Red

Vote count 1.2
Brian Skies (3): Nauci, Skygazer, Gamma Emerald

FA_Q2

(2):

Havo

,

Wh4t

Gamma Emerald (1): Brian Skies

Garmr

(1): texcat
Nauci (1):

FA_Q2

RadiantCowbells

(1): Ruby Red
not voting (4):

the worst

,

Garmr

,

RadiantCowbells

,

Krazy

Vote count 1.3
Ruby Red (3): Skygazer, texcat,

Havo

Brian Skies (2): Nauci, Gamma Emerald
Gamma Emerald (2): Brian Skies,

FA_Q2

FA_Q2

(2):

RadiantCowbells

,

Wh4t

Garmr

(2): Ruby Red,

Krazy

Krazy

(1):

Garmr

not voting (1):

the worst

Vote count 1.4
Gamma Emerald (3): Brian Skies,

FA_Q2

, texcat
Ruby Red (2): Skygazer,

Havo

Brian Skies (2): Nauci, Gamma Emerald

Garmr

(2): Ruby Red,

Krazy

FA_Q2

(1):

Wh4t

Krazy

(1):

Garmr

texcat (1):

RadiantCowbells

not voting (1):

the worst

Vote count 1.5

Garmr

(5):

Krazy

, Ruby Red,

RadiantCowbells

, Brian Skies, Skygazer
Gamma Emerald (2):

FA_Q2

,

Havo

Krazy

(2):

Garmr

, Nauci
Brian Skies (1): Gamma Emerald

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

not voting (2):

the worst

, texcat

Vote count 1.6

Garmr

(5):

Krazy

, Ruby Red,

RadiantCowbells

, Brian Skies, Skygazer

Krazy

(2):

Garmr

, Nauci
texcat (2):

the worst

,

FA_Q2

Gamma Emerald (1):

Havo

Brian Skies (1): Gamma Emerald

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

not voting (1): texcat

Vote count 1.7

Garmr

(3):

Krazy

, Brian Skies, Skygazer

Krazy

(2):

Garmr

, Nauci
texcat (2):

the worst

,

FA_Q2

Gamma Emerald (1):

Havo

Brian Skies (1): Gamma Emerald

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

FA_Q2

(1):

RadiantCowbells

Skygazer (1): Ruby Red
not voting (1): texcat

Vote count 1.8

FA_Q2

(5):

RadiantCowbells

, Skygazer, texcat,

Havo

,

the worst

Garmr

(1):

Krazy

Krazy

(1): Nauci
texcat (1):

FA_Q2

Brian Skies (1): Gamma Emerald

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

Skygazer (1):

Garmr

Gamma Emerald (1): Ruby Red
not voting (1): Brian Skies

Vote count 1.9

FA_Q2

(6):

RadiantCowbells

, Skygazer, texcat,

Havo

,

the worst

, Nauci
texcat (2):

FA_Q2

, Ruby Red

Garmr

(1):

Krazy

Brian Skies (1): Gamma Emerald

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

Skygazer (1):

Garmr

not voting (1): Brian Skies

Vote count 1.10

FA_Q2

(6):

RadiantCowbells

, Skygazer,

Havo

, Brian Skies,

the worst

,

Garmr

texcat (2):

FA_Q2

, Ruby Red

RadiantCowbells

(2):

Wh4t

,

Krazy

Brian Skies (1): Gamma Emerald
not voting (2): Nauci, texcat

d1 final vote count

FA_Q2

(7):

RadiantCowbells

, Skygazer,

Havo

, Brian Skies,

the worst

,

Garmr

, Gamma Emerald

RadiantCowbells

(3):

Wh4t

,

Krazy

, texcat
texcat (1):

FA_Q2

Skygazer (1): Ruby Red
not voting (1): Nauci

Vote count 2.1

Wh4t

(3):

RadiantCowbells

, Skygazer,

the worst

Garmr

(1): texcat

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

the worst

(1): Brian Skies
texcat (1):

Garmr

not voting (4): Gamma Emerald,

Havo

, Ruby Red, Nauci

Vote count 2.2

Wh4t

(4):

RadiantCowbells

, Skygazer,

the worst

,

Havo

Gamma Emerald (2): texcat,

Garmr

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

the worst

(1): Brian Skies
not voting (3): Gamma Emerald, Ruby Red, Nauci

Vote count 2.3

Wh4t

(4): Skygazer,

the worst

,

Havo

, Gamma Emerald
Gamma Emerald (2): texcat,

Garmr

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

the worst

(1): Brian Skies
not voting (3): Ruby Red, Nauci,

RadiantCowbells

Vote count 2.4

Wh4t

(4):

the worst

,

Havo

, Gamma Emerald, Brian Skies
Gamma Emerald (2): texcat,

Garmr

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

not voting (4): Ruby Red, Nauci, Skygazer,

RadiantCowbells

Vote count 2.5

Wh4t

(5):

the worst

,

Havo

, Gamma Emerald, Brian Skies,

RadiantCowbells

Gamma Emerald (2): texcat,

Garmr

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

not voting (3): Ruby Red, Nauci, Skygazer

d2 final vote count

Wh4t

(6):

the worst

,

Havo

, Gamma Emerald, Brian Skies,

RadiantCowbells

, Skygazer
Gamma Emerald (2): texcat,

Garmr

RadiantCowbells

(1):

Wh4t

not voting (2): Ruby Red, Nauci

Vote count 3.1

Havo

(2): Skygazer,

the worst

texcat (1):

Havo

Brian Skies (1):

Garmr

not voting (5): Gamma Emerald, Brian Skies, Ruby Red, texcat, Nauci

Vote count 3.2

Havo

(1): Skygazer
texcat (1):

Havo

Garmr

(1): texcat
Nauci (1): Brian Skies

the worst

(1): Ruby Red
Brian Skies (1):

the worst

not voting (3): Gamma Emerald, Nauci,

Garmr

Vote count 3.3
texcat (3):

Havo

, Gamma Emerald,

Garmr

Havo

(2): Skygazer,

the worst

Garmr

(1): texcat
Nauci (1): Brian Skies

the worst

(1): Ruby Red
not voting (1): Nauci

Vote count 3.4

Garmr

(3): texcat, Ruby Red,

Garmr

Havo

(2): Skygazer,

the worst

texcat (1): Gamma Emerald
Nauci (1): Brian Skies
Gamma Emerald (1):

Havo

not voting (1): Nauci

d3 final vc

Garmr

(5): texcat, Ruby Red, Brian Skies, Gamma Emerald,

Garmr

Havo

(2): Skygazer,

the worst

Gamma Emerald (1):

Havo

not voting (1): Nauci

CT's name had two different spellings and i only did the find and replace w/ brian's name on one

[Skygazer]

Nobody will be a cop, a psychologist, a ninja, or a traitor

[Skygazer]

trying to think this through

like i town read ruby and the mason claim checks out

but that's a shit ton of town power

gonna do some setup thoughts soon

[Skygazer]

Mason
Mason
Mason
Loud Traffic Analyst
3 shot Jailkeeper
Fruit Vendor
VT?
VT
VT
VT

vs

??
??
Goon

[Skygazer]

If there's two scum then I lose the ability to create clears after one lynch

but that'd be horrible unbalanced

[Skygazer]

rolecop
roleblock
joat
informed modifier
ascetic

some combination of these here would make this more balanced i think

esp ascetic removes a guilty for me and cant be jailkept

[Skygazer]

plus there'd be a significant chance of me outting the masons accidentally

[Skygazer]

considering i got a result yes

[Skygazer]

eh the only times ive been nightkilled were from being mechanically cleared or from straight up claiming. i find that scum like to keep me around as lynchbait and i think i did a good job in letting RC push me in ways that made me a less attractive night kill option

i think tw being nightkilled also points towards scum having a role cop or vanilla cop??

[Skygazer]

consider that tw never pushed me for my sudden unexplained huge town read after not being able to get a read on him all game

pedit um

[Skygazer]

traffic analyst is whitelisted tho

[Skygazer]

Another four more roles/modifiers are being added to the whitelist:

Roles:

Traffic Analyst:

target a player. You will learn whether or not they have the ability to communicate privately. This requires that they are in a private topic (neighborhood, masonry, or scum) with at least one other person also alive in that private topic. It should return a negative result if they are the only person left alive in any private topics they have access to, and should resolve after kills.

Alien:

target a player. That player will be roleblocked, and any actions targeting them will fail. Roleblock + rolestop, analogous to jailkeeper's roleblock + protect.

Modifiers:

Indecisive:

you may not use your night action on the same player two nights in a row.

Compulsive

: you must use your night action every night. This modifier has long been pseudo-blacklisted because resolving missed actions is difficult to do effectively. Therefore, this modifier has a couple additional rules if used: the role PM for a compulsive role must specify that the player with the role, when they confirm, must include an ordered list of all players in the game. If they ever fail to submit an action, their action must be resolved as targeting the first player on that list that is still alive. They are allowed to change the order of the list at any time, e.g. if they think they might accidentally fail to submit a night action.

The opening post will be updated with a note for this.

May 28

[Skygazer]

well you managed to strengthen my townread on you at least

[Skygazer]

well you managed to strengthen my townread on you at least

Eh why?

i feel like scum would know the claim is true and not push me incorrectly like that, it was pretty town spew

[Skygazer]

sorry nauci that sucks :/ if you need anyone to talk to about stuff you can message me or like im good friends w tw if you wanna discord w us some time!!

[Skygazer]

Havo has been sort of cleared by Sky (could be sole scum, or could be ascetic or ?).

if Havo was ascetic i'd get a no result so really the only world where havo is scum is if there's only two scum left which we probably shouldn't even consider until there's three players left and we still haven't lynched another scum

[Skygazer]

i feel like i want to vote texcat here, her posts have been kinda pockety/buddying towards me today??

[Skygazer]

taking a short mental health break - need to decide if i need to replace out or not but probably not

[Skygazer]

yeah im back sorry for the apathy i had like an anxious episode thing but some friends came through for me yesterday

[Skygazer]

I'll start with Brian Skies:

I still believe that CT was extremely town based on his meta. If you go and look at his newbie games he's played (or at least the ones that I've played in), you'll see the same sort of eager to play town vibe that I've gotten from him here. His pushes seemed believable and he was active. I also have to give town points to Brian Skies for the way he pushed me when he thought I was lying about my role. He seemed so excited to have caught scum and I also don't think that sort of push comes from someone that knows I'm town. He's been pushed but not necessarily voted by a lot of people and it makes me think he was supposed to be a designated mislynch today or in lylo based on my read.

[Skygazer]

Ruby Red:

RC was hard town reading ruby after reaction testing against them. Saudade was town af in hindsight and played a lot like I've seen town-Saudade play. The mason crumbing checks out. Like, if that was a fakeclaim, Saudade would've had to set it up by somehow knowing that they were masons in advance. The Krazy crumbs aren't like 100% confirmable ofc but that absolutely seems like something Krazy would do.

[Skygazer]

I'm not sure how to towncase Havo here considering I was scumreading them but I have a result that fmpov doesn't need to be reevaluated until we get to 3 players left with no scum flip

[Skygazer]

not to be over defensive here but im town i swear on my mother

VOTE: Saudade

And I could speculate on why Saudade's opening post is overly defensive and why he needs to declare that he's town, but most of that speculation would involve him being scum, and so I'll just vote him.

part of an early wagon that was being pushed on a slot who was lynchbait and who is 99% town right now

@texcat then why not put the pressure there?

OK.

VOTE: I am Innocent

jumping to another large wagon for pressure

VOTE: FA_Q2

Sheeping RC + OMGUS + I think we need to start consolidating.

I could also vote for Worst or Gamma. Gamma is a little more townie than IAI was, but is still on the scummy side.

jumping onto another wagon with literally only "sheeping," "omgus" and "consolidation" as listed reasons

and girls too obv

I don't not want skygazer and tex to vote because of their gender

Not going to happen. I'm not voting claimed masons on D1.

VOTE: Radiant Cowbells

I thought this was town, but I can't see town continuing the push to lynch claimed masons.

these two posts look like they're coming from someone who knew the mason claim was legit and the way she doesn't follow through on D2 makes me think she realized that it'd be a really hard mislynch to push

FA_Q2 (7):

RadiantCowbells, Skygazer, Havo, Completly Trustworthy, the worst, Garmr, Gamma Emerald

These people can't all be scum, but this is a good place to start.

VOTE: Garmr

seems kinda like a convenient way to push VCA

Let's try this...

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

leaves garmr after no one else rlly follows them onto that wagon, is content to have a scumread voting with them until:

VOTE: Garmr

I was silly to move off of him after that dreadful fake guilty on me. Strange thing is...he thought I was scummy enough to fake a guilty on, but then he followed my vote onto GammaE. Throw in a scum flip of the alternate and I think Garmr just about has to be scum.

here, where they just vote park on confirmed town until end of day

[Skygazer]

the first time texcat even mentions wh4t is page 56 (based on ctrl+f)

[Skygazer]

I'd like to hear from Wh4t before anyone hammers.

Wh4t (5):

RadiantCowbells, Skygazer, the worst, Havo, Gamma Emerald

And I'm not likely to hammer when the wagon consists of the same people who lynched the masons.

shading the people on the wh4t wagon

[Skygazer]

We need to start talking again, if we keep posting at the same rate, we're handing the game to the scumteam.

It bothers me that Wh4t has just disappeared when he is the vote leader, but I'm not sure that means anything as far as his alignment goes.

@mod -- Could we get some prods for Wh4t and Gamma please?

weak flip-floppy distancing

[Skygazer]

gamma and nauci isos later

[Skygazer]

Why Nauci over Gamma or texcat?

Consider this: if nauci flips town and scum has a roleblocker I'll likely be roleblocked if there is one (the fact that RC was a jailkeeper and Krazy still died makes me think there's a heavy chance RC could've been RB'd) and Ruby will be night killed leaving no one mechanically clear in lylo. texcat is my biggest scum read here atm and the fact that she just quickly jumped onto Nauci reeks of survivalism and makes me think that Nauci flips town here because it doesn't feel like distancing. I feel like we should wait for a replacement to come in and give actual sortable input which Nauci gave us none because of her situation so we can actually narrow down which two of Gamma/tex/nauci is scum.

[Skygazer]

like it worries me that people are trying to tie me into a havo scum team because neither of us flip town and scum certainly doesnt want to kill me if they can leave me alive with no further results through a rb or whatever

esp because my flip creates a clear

[Skygazer]

did i incorrectly locktown CT

cause that was one of RC's strong scum reads and like the way Brian just voted Nauci with texcat is eh

[Skygazer]

prodge

[Skygazer]

tried to check texcat because low odds of being night killed

got "no result" rather than a "can't communicate" type of thing so

[Skygazer]

rb'd/ascetic?

[Skygazer]

i think i'm a good pl today because i apparently couldn't clear myself and i dont want paranoia about my slot to set in in lylo

but considering there's only one scum left Havo is cleared whether I'm telling the truth or fakeclaiming

[Skygazer]

me flipping town doesnt automagically make textcat scum, I received no result which means texcat is either an ascetic or there's a multitasking roleblocker

in either case texcat would not have been visited by me

[Skygazer]

I'm SRing Gamma the most atm

there's no reason for brian to have gone for nauci there imo as scum so my scum read there is gone after the flip

i crumbed loud D1 i can dig that up soonish

[Skygazer]

I held my tongue which im usually good at but im kinda getting snarkier after seeing stuff like that and after just coming out of a game where someone mocked they/them pronouns

like i feel kinda jaded with this site at the moment. oh well. understandable that im still being suspected of buddying. dont worry, ill find a way to spew town eventually.

second paragraph here is loud

thanks bb

rc why are you trying to give bread to a duck

the crumbs destroy their tummy

apparently insects

first post starts with t and mentions crumbing, my post immediately after that starts with a

[Skygazer]

hi i tried to visit brian

still no result

so its definitely a roleblocker and not ascetic

[Skygazer]

thats quite the quick vote there

[Skygazer]

considering scum has a multitasking roleblocker there's no reason to kill me considering ruby red was clear and havo was clear. With one scum left I can't get any results and with the roleblocker there's no way for me to clear myself.

I checked Brian because if texcat was an ascetic then getting a result on brian would've confirmed that and brian would know im town.

[Skygazer]

so if you're town (which im kind of doubting after that snap lylo vote), please unvote

[Skygazer]

driving my friend home brb

[Skygazer]

brian if ur town its kind of really shitty to just drop a vote in lylo and disappear

especially immediately at the start of lylo with no discussion

like im getting anxious thinking texcat is going to show up and quickhammer any second now and just ugh

[Skygazer]

cool tex is conf town

like i've said, i was rb'd, so you voting me for not receiving a loud message doesn't make any sense at all considering by all accounts you shouldn't have received a loud message

we established this yesterday

[Skygazer]

VOTE: brian

[Skygazer]

and the way you unvoted me yesterday and hammered gamma with no given intent spews me as the designated lylo mislynch

like you know i wouldn't be able to get a message out after roleblocking me yet you're using that as an excuse to instavote me in lylo

[Skygazer]

intent is still needed there even if everyone has said something that day

stating a scumread isnt the equivalent of giving intent to naked quickhammer the day before lylo

[Skygazer]

like there's still almost 10 days left in the day 5 deadline

and we had a conftown in havo that was going to die

and you trying to just brush off the quickhammer thing is scummy af

and why havent you addressed my point about you couldnt possibly know my alignment based off of the lack of message? as i stated, i received no result which means i was roleblocked so there's no way to possibly justify just quickvoting me in lylo like that

[Skygazer]

hi i tried to visit brian

still no result

so its definitely a roleblocker and not ascetic

VOTE: Skygazer

like the vote comes immediately after stating my night action which looms like a reaction to me stating my night action and youve said nothing about scumreading me today or townreading me today

if you're coming into lylo with a straight up naked vote with no stated reasoning then thats worse

[Skygazer]

and so many people were scum reading CT and I just kept arguing that CT was town on meta which is really frustrating in hindsight

like i shouldve checked CT since he was something of a consensus scum read but no i had to get paranoid about RC overnight like I did in the other game that just finished

[Skygazer]

that game also featured me clearing a scum player based on an incorrect meta read so

ugh

[Skygazer]

so she's just supposed to believe you have a super secret reason to read one of us that you dont wanna talk about at all in lylo?

[Skygazer]

like honestly it seems to me like youre just trying to buy time to justify whatever led you to quickvoting me esp considering you didnt talk to me

at all

after voting for me

[Skygazer]

im kind of tilted rn so im gonna take a break for now

[Skygazer]

sorry texcat

[Skygazer]

ye i made a ton of misplays there whoops

[Skygazer]

ehhh i thought my fakeclaim relied way to heavily on nauci surviving hence the backpedal there

should've definitely gone with three shot but when it was claim time i was worried that having a role like that would've seemed too convenient considering how end game was coming up

instead i had to go with an even more unlikely excuse when nauci died whoops

[Skygazer]

yeah um i felt really bad about that because it was kind of an impulse post that i couldnt really figure out how to take back

[Skygazer]

like i turn into such an emotionally manipulative piece of shit when im scum and my town game sucks and i have so much rl stuff on my plate that im making sleep-deprived misguided choices so im generally considering not signing up for new games for a long time