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[Alchemist21]

Are you all forgetting that time RC was here and death tunneled me until whatever made him stop. And then around that same time nobody listened to me about Invis and that was fun. And if we’re gonna talk wagon resistance here I will point you all to the wagon on
Pure Sadness’ slot that a lot of people said they’d join and then never did?

[Chara]

doesn't matter there, Alisae replaced in an obvtowned.

[Irrelephant11]

Hi @alch, do you still want a chickadee lynch? What do you think of the RC/Titus slot now?

dunnstral, you're gonna have to do a lot more to get maria lynched, or give up on maria for the day
I don't really townread her but the momentum isn't really there and there's definitely scummier slots given the worst things she did were TMI Gamma's alignment (which she says she can always do) and scumread you which makes sense given your gammer

pedit: who do you want to lynch tho
pedit2: eh I don't know I'd call alisae obvtown unless it's a meta thing

[Chara]

not really a meta thing, though i do have a bit of relevant meta that provides a little insight to me personally.

elephant, i said the same things about Gamma that Maria did.
also i laughed at 'gammer'.

[Alchemist21]

Hi @alch, do you still want a chickadee lynch? What do you think of the RC/Titus slot now?

dunnstral, you're gonna have to do a lot more to get maria lynched, or give up on maria for the day
I don't really townread her but the momentum isn't really there and there's definitely scummier slots given the worst things she did were TMI Gamma's alignment (which she says she can always do) and scumread you which makes sense given your gammer

pedit: who do you want to lynch tho
pedit2: eh I don't know I'd call alisae obvtown unless it's a meta thing

I was kinda Townreading RC’s tunnel on me. Don’t think Titus has even done anything unless stuff happened with her while I was V/LA. And yeah I’m fine with a chickadee lynch unless someone has a Towncase there.

[Irrelephant11]

Let's shake things up!


Titus ISO, every d1 post on Gamma (the only player he voted):

titus vote alch

No Alch looks town vote elsewhere. Like Gamma!

Why

VOTE: Gamma

Because Gamma has not seen Star Wars: The Last Jedi.

I want a 4 person scumpool from everyone, this will help us get a bearing on who is viable as a lynch
My scumpool:
Alchemist
Jiffy
Titus
Dunnstral

Why is your pool largely omgus?

Every d2 post from Titus on Chickadee:

VOTE: Chickadee

For the VCAs.

VOTE: Chickadee

For the VCAs.

Can you explain? I tried looking through her iso and couldn't quite find what you're talking about. Though I admit from that I did get the idea that she could possibly be scum that doesn't quite know where to push and so basically settles for anything.

I am voting Chickadee because I want to sort her to resolve the d1 wagons.

VCA without scumflips is fine but wagon placement alone is bad VCA you gotta look at the context of the votes as well.

Correct, if I felt it necessary to have an overarching theory but it's too early. Knowing Chickadee's alignment suggests how scum felt day 1. Then we can work outward.

@irrelephant It means with Chickadee's flip we can assess likely scum motivation yesterday. If Chickadee scum, we can infer massive peeling yesterday. If Chickadee town, scum likely did not care which die (unless one was right).

This reeks of Chickadee scum based on gut wagon thoughts. More detail tonight.

I've said already why Alchemist's alignment can be either town or scum and RC's play around the slot would still be scummy. Anyway I can't really read RC but just from reading Titus this doesn't look like laissez faire town it looks like opportunistic scum
VOTE: Titus

[Chara]

i think it's entirely possible Titus is scum with Dunnstral. this game has a lot of scum so i think PoE is even more useful.
i'm pretty confident in Maria/elephant/Invis/Cobbler town.
Chickadee/Toranaga could also be in there.

[Chara]

VOTE: Titus
actually this is good.

[Irrelephant11]

What happened to your Alisae townread?

my townreads are me/chara/lavos/probably invis/probably cobblerfone
Why are you townreading maria confidently?

[Irrelephant11]

oh wait lol alisae is cobblerfone now lollllll
too many replacements this game

[Chara]

Maria's stream of consciousness case on Dunn, mostly. i've been fooled by her in the past as scum due to thinming i knew how to townread her.
i guess she's not as confident as the others but i still like her for town and i won't question that just because of paranoia for no reason to. reading her by her reads alone as well.
in class now, back later.

[MariaR]

I'm done with this game honestly might sub out I'll think about it just a time killer atm

[Alchemist21]

Kinda think everyone is done with the game.

[Chickadee]

Maria, instead, will you help lynch Titus?

VOTE: titus

[Invisibility]

im specifically not done on this game
VOTE: tistsus

[Majiffy]

Tistsus

[Invisibility]

majiefey

[Majiffy]

Insverstibly

[Chickadee]

Jiffy join me <3

[Invisibility]

alch of chemistry can you scumcase me beyond voting you like a frickingboss

[Majiffy]

Jiffy join me <3

I dun wanna I wanna Lynch Mary's slot

[Majiffy]

Maru*

[Chara]

I'm done with this game honestly might sub out I'll think about it just a time killer atm

i hope you stay, but don't force yourself to. i think the game can get energy again though.

[Alchemist21]

alch of chemistry can you scumcase me beyond voting you like a frickingboss

I could but honestly don't care enough to do it right now. If anyone gives a damn they can probably just ISO me and do a ctrl + F for "invis"

[Invisibility]

jk i hate maria's entrance more
VOTE: maria

What did you dislike about her entrance?

Well I’ve asked Invis about his Maria read but he hasn’t answered yet. There’s nothing else for me to do right now and the only reason I’m arguing about your read on me is because you directly engaged me.

i was incorrect about mariarre
UNVOTE:

I still want you to answer what you found scummy in the first place and also tell me what changed your mind about them.

VOTE: Invisibility

I think your vote on me is likeliest to be scum. It’s a lazy sheep vote.

VOTE: Invisibility

I think your vote on me is likeliest to be scum. It’s a lazy sheep vote.

ew

Oh yeah? With 3 votes on me in quick succession I’m certain one of you is scum, so if it’s not you then who is it?

i guess you could call me opportunistic but 1 wagon
super eh
it would really only make sense with a lot of wagon hopping
also what made me voting on a wagon more likely to be scum than chickadee?

i guess you could call me opportunistic

Gamma’s hop is also very bad. I also think if there’s any scum that would actually be afraid of my Town game it’s him so the more shade he throws the more that read will solidify.

Nobody's even mentioning Invis here. Guess scum don't want to bring attention to him.

Nobody's even mentioning Invis here. Guess scum don't want to bring attention to him.

you do realize you could have said real things about me instead of weird shady stuff

No. People are in here talking about Maru and Gamma and just ignoring you. It's clear as day that scum don't want the game looking at you at all. If you were Town this wouldn't be the case.

Counterpoint: what has invisibility said thats worth responding to on any level?

Look at his hop onto my wagon and the timing of it. Then look at how he doubled down on it after I called him on it. Are you telling me you don't have any opinion on that?

@Maria why do you think Invis is Town?

Talk to me about other people I can give you a better answer than Invis who is legit just a "uhhh he's kinda obv" read

What do you think of Chickadee and Jiffy?

Talk to me about other people I can give you a better answer than Invis who is legit just a "uhhh he's kinda obv" read

What do you think of Chickadee and Jiffy?

Chickadee had a few towny moments in the game I found the "I'm exhausted so tell me if I'm wrong" post quite towny. I think her whole reason for defending Jiffy is NAI and people are blowing it way out of the water. If I want Chickadee solved I'd lynch Jiffy first. (Speaking of)
Jiffy is just...here he doesn't really have many towny parts to him just a lot of posting that feels meh to me I can see him being scum easily and if I had my choice of info and scum lynch I'd kill Jiffy
VOTE: Jiffy
Pedit: Answer my question rc thanks.

I still have Jiffy as null. Just seemed a bit early to me for anyone to have claimed a meta read on him when Chickadee did it. Actually, poking Jiffy more might give some meaningful reactions.

VOTE: Jiffy

I’m already voting Jiffy, you know, that guy you said is my buddy? Invis is also someone I would vote.

I’d join the Chickadee wagon. I didn’t realize she had a wagon until a VC showed she had 4 votes.

Still, unless people who know Alisae can tell me what makes them Town it’s telling to me that a bunch of people said they’d join that wagon but never did. I’ll have to check back when I have time but I think there was significant overlap between those players and the players who resisted the Invis wagon I wanted earlier.

i bet that dunnstral is the mafia more than alch actually

Why don't you lay out your thought process to get this game moving

ur scummy
frick i forgot why
VOTE: alch better actually

So when you get challenged on a read and can’t back it up you just run?

Are you all forgetting that time RC was here and death tunneled me until whatever made him stop. And then around that same time nobody listened to me about Invis and that was fun. And if we’re gonna talk wagon resistance here I will point you all to the wagon on
Pure Sadness’ slot that a lot of people said they’d join and then never did?

alch of chemistry can you scumcase me beyond voting you like a frickingboss

I could but honestly don't care enough to do it right now. If anyone gives a damn they can probably just ISO me and do a ctrl + F for "invis"