In post 603, GuiltyLion wrote: In post 490, Lady Angel wrote:And no, I'm not taking his word on it. I looked at how RC was acting at his peak of trying to lynch NSG and it matched up well with how RC tried to lynch a scum MathBlade in Lynch the wolves, right down to the frustration at not being listened to. Simply put, regardless of RC's level of read proficiency, his reaction and attempt to push her indicate that he was extremely confident in it. Does that mean it's right? No, it could be a mislynch or a scum push, but so far, from what I've seen of RC, that level of confidence seems difficult to engineer. And were it to flip town, I would be very glad to lynch RC tomorrow.
I only brought up "100% read proficiency" in the original post twice, once prefaced by the word "claiming", ie, I wasn't taking it as fact, and a second time as a direct reference to another game. In neither situation could anyone reasonably read it and come up with the conclusion you did without really stretching it.
Lastly, how did you get me assuming he was town out of that post when I specifically brought up that there was a chance it could be a bus, which you yourself even brought up? Yeah, right now I'd be willing to think RC isn't scum since I don't see him trying to hard bus my other two scumreads day 1 in this fashion (NSG and DS, with DS also only being bussed after subbing in), but as I said up there, if NSG flips town we lynch RC afterwards.
I sort of feel like you read that post with a lens of assuming I'm scum going into it as opposed to just... reading it? Some of the stuff you pointed out was flat-out wrong on a reading comprehension level and while it's fair that I can't meta-read someone off of one game, I also only know of/had time to read one game of his since sleep is required for the human body to function.
I'm very confused by this
your argument for scum!NSG was ... what exactly? As simple as possible. I saw a bunch of questionable assertions about RC and RC meta, and nothing about NSG's play in this game. So I took your argument to be "either town!RC is right or scum!RC is bussing, either way NSG is scum". Which I just don't buy, and that's where I thought half of your argument was predicated on RC being right about NSG.
Please tell me, without using the words "RC", why NSG is scum, in your own words.
NSG has a high chance to be scum because another player's reaction lines up with what was seen of him in previous games upon hitting scum. If she isn't scum, I'm going to try and lynch that player. Logically, there's a higher than usual chance of there being scum in these two players for reasons I've already said.
In post 606, GuiltyLion wrote:
if he's never seen one before, he's town.
so do you think he's lying or did you just admit that you think he's town here?
I find it incredibly hard to believe that anyone who's played a lot would really never see a scum tracker before. He doesn't even have to get it, he just has to be in a game where it flips or even a postgame if hosts on this/other sites regularly do that. It's a little hard to believe unless he's played exclusively non-role madness games.
This... is completely awful and the mafia equivalent of walking up to a guillotine and sticking your head in it, then screaming out someone's name until the blade falls. Like, if you die because you post something like this, it's way more likely the actual mafia trying to make me look bad than getting killed because of any involvement I had, because posts like this essentially ask for it.
Second off, why would scum ever kill the one person going for their head if that person can't get anyone on the wagon with them? It just makes them look bad.
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