Boundaries of Reality - [Game Over]

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I'm a miller

Im also a miller

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More than one apparently

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and since its mentioned we can be killed by desperados im expecting some of those too

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also shooting millers is safe in both cases while with everyone else they risk dying

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dva have you played with nancy before?

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varsoon have you?

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because you scumread her for nancy-nai things

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4 so far

Pretty sure miller is the new gunsmith

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VOTE: lady angel

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Desperadoes are essentially dayvigs (of either alignment) except they replace the lynch and do it publically.

Desperados die if they shoot town

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Nancy wanna vote lady angel with the cool kids?

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Is making 10+ posts where you try to justify yourself also NAI?

yes

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and nancy is right, scum desperado is very likely

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Like, i was scum gunsmith in forgotten hourglass which was useless for scum utility
All it helped me do is pass as town
Same will happen here

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do it then

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oh look walls im not reading

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ut prolly another scum?

nancy votes are terribad

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If you're a desperado. I say hip fire gamma since his Miller claim was not early or first post

why would you encourage desperados to hit millers

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scum desp is going to be looking for an excuse to do it

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marquis i want to think youre town

stop voting obvtown and vote lady with me

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Lady continues parroting and proving shes scum

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because read previous fg games, hebi

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if they can only shoot millers its limited enough, no? Its not like they can kill whoever they want

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yup but they may opt to not claim desp at all

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it was silly but i dont think it was scummy

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varsoon they kill via bolding inthread

its not like they can

not

claim the kill

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anyway, lady votes. Both of you

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she has 3 or 4 votes i think

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Ill make it easy for you

Marquis is right tho, Dunn claiming miller doesnt change a thing.
But I dislike more Gamma randomly coming and going "Oh yeah im a miller too" after other people claimed miller.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald
That miller claim is super shaky and more looks like you jumped on it for town points than an actual miller claim.

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If you're a desperado. I say hip fire gamma since his Miller claim was not early or first post

why would you encourage desperados to hit millers

Kokichi asking players to desperado millers when the desperado role kills millers like scum is a little ridiculous on day one. Wouldn't it be better to wait and reduce the number of possible misfires first?

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ie scum-parroting

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Its also in the miller role pm @sakura

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doubt its a red herring

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me, cakez, nancy, varsoon i think

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eh ill give gamma a pass for now

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drixx they cant just shoot and expect to get away with it

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Dva and drixx join ut on my radar for non lady scum

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That last few pages are a fucking mess. I'll slog through that shit if and when it becomes relevant.

Lady angel has 6 votes, is that relevant enough?

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drixx continuing to ignore the lady wagon and encouraging a miller shot
have we got our second scum?

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VOTE: maria
dont like any of her posts today

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I mean yes, lady died from her own shot, that's how a desperado works.
I was thinking one or both could've died from their own shot too, but the different message makes me think that they were probably killed.

thats what i was thinking too but guess not
weird because neither makes much sense for scum to kill

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Still dont like them
And sakura is town

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I will also gladly vote drixx or ut

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most likely dva was a vig shot i think

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Or, another random thought i had: scum have the reverse of a desperado, ie he can kill town as long as they arent millers

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gamma is town

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dunn is town

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i believe him

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whatever Maria

who is scum

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And yet you tell people nka is shit without even knowing what theyre talking about

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pretty sure maria is scum

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maria pls
Theres a conftown
And scum didnt kill it
And youre arguing talking about that is shit

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whats the wifom?

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thats generic shit

and nobody's discussing why cakez or dva was killed

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Maria wouldn't play this badly as scum. So shes town for now

i disagree
It strongly feels like scum maria who argues bs just to argue with no real point to be made

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meanwhile she has still not read shit and thus has given zero input about the game

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I keep thinking that MariaR using "I as scum wouldnt miss D1" is worse than she arguing that NKA is crap.

that too yeah

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Who were the main pushes of the Lady angel wagon.

I was. Everyone else sheeped me.

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dva was among the people i was suspecting so i can see it

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Or, another random thought i had: scum have the reverse of a desperado, ie he can kill town as long as they arent millers

Is there an actual role like that?

dont see why fg cant make one

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the problem with my theory is that cakez/dva could have been millers who didnt claim so eh. Would they risk it?

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VOTE: ut

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she meant in private topics not egopost

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So ... elephant in the room time. If there's a pile of desperados ... do we really believe all those miller claims?

what do you mean?

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All I remember off the top of my head is Gamma.

Dunn, me, nos

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VOTE: maria

this is still the best

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all of the miller claims look town to me
if theres a scum miller its an unclaimed one but i don't think there is

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nancy hes right, that argument doesnt make sense

But ut is scummy regardless

Marquis looks like the typical town who meets you for the first time and doesn't know your meta

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is scum miller just a named goon

desps can kill them

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nvm, yeah

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from experience that will result in her calling what you did ate
@marquis

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VOTE: ut

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Will also gladly lynch Maria who continues being awful

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Third probably sakura

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VOTE: maria

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{nancy, dunn}
{gamma, nos}
{marquis}
{varsoon, sakura}
{Maria, ut}

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she hasn't been as town as i expect of her, her votes have all been on flipped town plus idk who else it can be

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why am i scum maria?

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ok thanks

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who else is scum, sakura?

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my instict is to vote sakura but ill stay on Maria

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btw three kills
Dunn claimed one
If the other stays unclaimed its confirmed scum have an extra kill

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and given they didnt use it n1 i think i was probably right

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nancy why is sakura town?

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nancy why is sakura town?

Her argument with Nico. Her insistence that I’m town. Her tone is pure. I honestly don’t even get how you are scumreading her? I was right about Drix/hebi. I think I think this looks like town!Sakura to me.

I isod her and i saw no posts that indicate town sakura
What argument with Nico?

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None of this is town indicative for sakura

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nancy you've entered your "I know everything and nobody cam convince me otherwise" mode
I hate this mode

I have more experience than you do with sakura and im telling you with certainty that she has not exhibited behavior that indicates she is town. Whatever reason you think you have for her town is wrong.
I am not convinced she is scum, but she is the most likely candidate for scum after ut and maria.

I do not know why marquis said that. Maybe he just meant to listen to his scumread on me if he ends up dead. Maybe he hinted at role usage. He will tell us when he posts.

Kokichi was not literal. He often posts things to test people.

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VOTE: sakura

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I insist that scum have a desp that can only kill town non-millers

bp/gf is unlikely

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can you also see sakura/ut/varsoon?

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idk the circumstances of that game but having a desp gf here would be awful because desps only get 3 people they can shoot without dying - making one of them immune means you conftown a scum and kill a town for shooting correctly

so even worse than a gf

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why not 3/3?

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Im least confident on varsoon
Why is he scum?

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I isod him and im back to thinking hes town
Idk who the third is. Maybe nos

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varsoon vote sakura with me

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maria pls

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Why?
To both those things

because shes scum
As is ut

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Wisdom is scum aiming to mislynch me tho.
I dont trust him.

you can fake better conviction than this

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iso him, it will take less than 30 seconds

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VOTE: ut

lets do it

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nah. Vote ut.

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nope

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and Kokichi because they thought he was doc.

what is this based on

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I was scumreading drixx so

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claiming will feed scum who the doc is, if there is even one. Let them wonder and we massclaim tomorrow

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how is it mylo
lylo is tomorrow

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youre reading some other gane because im not hardpushing anything

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It really didn’t sound particularly scummy to me. Marquis’ sounds worse.

and thus we know youre confbiased

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nancy clear your mind
Its not mylo
We're not claiming today
Marquis is town
UT and Sakura arent town
Im not hardpushing anyone

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Because i say so

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P.edit, who is the 3rd scum in your POE?

idk, nos probably

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you have really silly reasoning for things

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also ut didnt vote hebi

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nope was an answer to if i know about the setup

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sure
doesnt stop me from pointing it out when i see it
Like youve surely seen two scum being on the same wagon yet youre trying to argue its a tell

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Because i don't claim until its necessary
If im alive tomorrow, i will

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Again, ut didnt vote hebi

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because newsflash scum try to play the game too

stop assuming scum isos will be full of nothing but scum actions

youre not a newbie anymore, youve played enough and you should not make these rookie questions

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also you (once again) didnt read that properly. Ut did not try to stop him from voting kokichi.

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you know full well im town sakura
no excuses

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no he didn't
he just asked a question

Youre giving yourself a headache because you confbias

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yep.

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I dont need to explain my reads because i have already
You just wave my reasons away

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Ut iso is a scum iso
Sakura has not done a single town thing
The rest of the playerlist is townier than both
Its not a complicated thought process

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and yes gamma is obvtown

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im sorry you feel that way

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nancy just accept im right and its ut and sakura

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youre not ic
Youd be ic if the mod said you are confirmed town

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what ignorance? She knows you were shot by a desp, hence the gf theory

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nancy you amaze me sometimes

The gf theory came up because she knows you were shot

What are you having trouble understanding

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you dont make any sense but ill drop it because im tired

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you dont make any sense but ill drop it because im tired

If she sincerely believes in the gf theory, then she obviously doesn’t know my alignment. Duh.

And if she has a green role pm, she is also town
Not helpful

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and what indicates shes sincere about the gf theory?

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sometimes i dont know if nancy cant understand or if shes actively trying not to

i dont think anyone does the latter ever

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hammer/shoot ut please

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Maybe their extra kill is even night

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yeah I guess they would have killed you with their normal kill n1

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if they only had a n2 extra

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anyway no need for speculation
We will see how many kills tomorrow and massclaim

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then tell us why im scum

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shes just scum dude

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what idk is who the third is
is nos or marquis more likely

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talking to nancy is not ai

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what is your point? I wanted to make you express your reads

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yep its not like anything changed rrom yesterday to tomorrow

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from*

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yep its not like anything changed rrom yesterday to tomorrow

to today*

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285 was kneejerking to maria's vote on you
It had more to do with disliking maria than townreading you

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That's... quite a lot of death

VOTE: Sakura
This feels fake considering it's a fakegod game and I don't think sakura should be shocked at this at all.

VOTE: maria
dont like any of her posts today

VOTE: maria
dont like any of her posts today

They're my only posts today come on.

Still dont like them
And sakura is town

I think its pretty clear in context

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Dunn there might not be any more desps

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the desp would shoot ut, nancy

With the hammer we get one alignment, with the shot two

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Anyhow, sakura next

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i mean 7 desps arent a small number

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and how will they save us in lylo exactly?
If anything id rather not have a loose cannon who suicides in lylo and loses the game

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I was blocked

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same as gamma
I targeted sakura

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guess the extra kill was one shot or even night
which makes sense

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how do you know?

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because reads evolve

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wrong

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Sakura and moment

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VOTE: moment

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nancy youre doing the annoying thing again so im disengaging

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good one, varsoon
I only once considered you when i was running out of poe and even then it was only for a moment