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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I'm in!"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Will do a proper read and catchup-post tomorrow morning, seven pages is nothing to me!"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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..yet somehow I have a feeling neither of us has really BEEN here yet. If that makes sense.In post 138, Flavor Leaf wrote:Oh, my Unah’s here. I’ll spend time with this game a bit later. Sorry, got busy!
I am thinking we will find at least one scum in the profii-voters today. That wagon felt like such an easy thing to jump aboard..
For now, UNVOTE: and I'll place a vote on a player with reasoning."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Apparently I'll wait as well?
#BoonThings"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Didn't move.
I guess the floor is yours Boon, my man.. I'm off to bed but cant wait to see what you have up in your sleeve!"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I'm not sure what to think of Boon here..
Like, don't get me wrong - this is def. town!Boons play as much as it could be scum!
It's just that one of these days it's actually scum!Boon doing this fake-gambit -gambit, and I don't want to be on the losing side of it when it happens..
I'd also like to point out that I knew for a near certainty that it was a gambit from the get go. Mainly because I was asked to be the last one, and there's absolutely no result Boon could have that would suggest me doing anything last night.
What hazes me the most though, is that with the way he formatted his play, I'd guess either Dave or Carca SHOULD have then been his main suspect?
That is because I can see Boon trusting me not to ruin his gambit, and saving me for last would shroud his actual suspicions towards the 2nd to last / 3rd to last..
Does this make sense to anyone else?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Like..he says that Carca IS scum, I can see that in conjuction with his gambit, but then Chill/Gamma/Me?
That is the part that bothers me the most."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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First of all - note that I replaced in shortly before the end of D1, and the hammer came rather quickly after I had finally managed to catch up.In post 302, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Una has given no real reads or made any pushes, the only posts with much content are 292 and 293, which seem like fence sitting to me.
I'm sure my predecessor didn't get to post much either since they got replaced(?), but read there if you want to base your read on something D1..
D2 starts with Boon to finish his gambit, but you still manage to discredit my two posts that actually attempted to stir conversation?
Nah man, you are either trying to forcefully shade or just miss the contexts of my posting (or lack of it) completely.
I'm not saying Boon is null. Don't put words to my mouth.In post 302, Completly Trustworthy wrote:It seems odd that despite talking about how Boon's behavior bothers him, he says that nobody should think he believes that Boon is probably scum instead of null.
I just wanted to make it 100% clear to everyone else that I know what Boon is. Like, people who haven't played with him much/dislike his gambits often want to straight up lynch him after such a gambit without any further reads.
I am always 50/50 on Boon until I feel certain."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I simply wanted to see where Boon goes from there.In post 303, FA_Q2 wrote:On that same token: una does the same shit in 292 - the entire second statement:
"I'd also like to point out that I knew for a near certainty that it was a gambit from the get go. Mainly because I was asked to be the last one, and there's absolutely no result Boon could have that would suggest me doing anything last night."
Me formatting like that was mainly directed at him - not to try and create any appearances for the rest of you.."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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While I agree with FA making some solid arguments (accurate in their reads or not), I think you areIn post 306, Tchill13 wrote:Great points FA. Does make me feel a bit better about you.
I don't feel like I've got a solid foundation for throwing a vote on someone yet.capableof making reads here Chill.
Funnily enough though - one of the reasons why I think you are town here is the fact that you haven't tried to fake any reads.
You are brave enough to be passive -> town!Chill to me for now."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I think this part here is on the nose.In post 307, Reundo wrote:Gamma's initial Flavor vote seemed like a knee-jerk reaction tbh, and the switch onto Carcalilly seemed more based on him rethinking things rather than being influenced by anything in the thread. Not that scum can't think "Oh, this vote was actually a terrible idea, let me switch off real quick", but his switch was definitely not overtly scum-AI, and with regards to his play as a whole I feel he's been fairly involved in the game and doing his part to contribute -- I can't see a clear scum agenda from him.
..you'll regret saying this once you see what I've whipped up during work just now!In post 307, Reundo wrote:Una seems like the most likely to be scum out of Flavor's pool so far -- it feels like he's just coasting so far, and his content is pretty sub-par even for someone who recently replaced in.
Sorry to everyone who hates my monologue-spams, but this is how I'm able to form my reads the best and have found the most success in my past games.
This part here feels the most like fence-sitting, even if it ends with a vote on me..In post 307, Reundo wrote:Outside of the whole gambit, I'm not getting a good vibe from wilky since his contributions so far have been bare-minumum. I'm still not keen on nonny either -- her posting in RVS was fine since it seemed based on a misunderstanding of the vote count, but I didn't like her comment on profii, and her questions to Carca were just more/less echoing everyone else's concerns, but re-reading her ISO I'm not as confident on my scum-read of her. I might have to take some time to consider this whole gambit a bit more, but for now I'm content with this vote.
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So...I'm seeing a connection between Reundo and Completely Trustworthy here.
I think they both see a good potential mislynch for today, and furthermore might have been alerted by the way I answered Boons query about last nights actions..
What actually makes my Boon-paranoia rise here is the fact that I think he ought to have jumped on my answer, but didn't.
And it's not beyond him to coach his buddies (Reundo and CT in this scenario) to do the jumping instead of him!
@Boon- wanna comment?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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VOTE: Completely Trustworthy - to make it feel like it's OMGUS to the max!"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Yes.
Was just about to ask what you had in mind, and I wholeheartedly agree with this idea - the problem being that only two players are currently voting Carca?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I'm really liking Boon for town now.
Chill feels very strongly like his town-self. (I have had a knack for scumreading him correctly whenever it has been the case)
Carca is always somewhat "surface-level" scummy, or as someone else might put it, lynchbait-y, so not gonna townlock them, but not seriously scumreading them for now.
Gamma has seemingly been very on-point with their analysis so far (the way I see it), and vocal enough to get some solid towncred from me for now...
I'm off to bed now, but I'm starting to like our chances already. (plz get a wagon rolling before I wake up! )"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Lol, one more thing before I'm off to bed - I love me some actively posting Boon!
I was going to look for this post in the morning too, but since you already brought it up.In post 347, Flavor Leaf wrote:
This is the only thing that holds me back from potential ScumFA.In post 305, FA_Q2 wrote:Honest question here FL: If I remember correctly you were the "did someone say L-1" and then hammer guy every time. Should we expect you to turbohammer anyone at L-1 or has that changed?
I feel like this promotes a towny mindset(?) in a way that feels like an odd thing to ever fake..errr...if that makes sense?
Like"a thing I don't see a scum bringing up just to appear as towny"- and it really feels like it's coming from a towny pov, so..?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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UNVOTE:
"CT shouldn't live to LyLo" and all that Jacuzzi.
Also want to make sure that CT understands - my vote on you was by no means an OMGUS.
I'm starting to lean on just sheeping Boon today and then"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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..clicking submit on phone before I get to say what I"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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+In post 379, Tchill13 wrote:Boon consistently pointing out scum is on the profii wagon when he was the one to hammer, among reasons I already stated, means he's probably scum.
I actually didn't realize Chill made a mistake here either!In post 385, Flavor Leaf wrote:I didn’t hammer Profii, i hammered tip
Do we think here that profii was killed because he had softed/outright claimed a PR?
Because if we do, I'd argue scum was probably off-wagon more likely than on.. (at least most of them?)
I think we want to hear from the less active slots before we end this gameday - especially wilky is a big to me for now.
And I've played both scum and town with them, so I'd say I have some usable insight there as well..
I also want dave grilled before sleepysleep, and carca giving something less trippy before we go night-night.
Also want to see the nonny-catchup before I take a nappynap..?
If you didn't guess it already, these three slots are my "hardest to sort -lineup"."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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CT was on profii all of D1.
profii was the nightkill.
CT claims even-night(?) Doc.
What are the odds we ever get that role confirmed?
But would scum!CT stick to a wagon of an assumed PR and then nightkill them N1 to make that connection stand out even more?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Hold the phone!
Novice Vig + EVEN-NIGHT Doc?
Scum-role much?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Carca - I have played with you in multiple games before so I know your somewhat peculiar style of posting.
But I guess not everyone here has.
So want to try and make a more cohesive "readlist" for everyone?
As of now, I'm very much teetering on a scumline with you, simply because of the way you casually imply a Vengeful role (no need to beat around the bush with what you have already said this gameday), but yet you didn't feel the need to ACTUALLY claim it? What does town!Carca achieve with that?
Also, if you have been serious with your "softing", how does that affect your stance on CT claiming an Even-Night Doc?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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So hows everything else Boonsky?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Oh wow, thanks!In post 425, Carcalilly wrote:Happy birthday unabombah!!!!"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I'm thinking about the Doc-claim from CT..In post 441, Tchill13 wrote:Better question. Who thinks we should control carcallilys shot?
If that is a scum-doc, we either leave the decision for Carca, or Carca shoots CT (perhaps not smart:lol: )
I'd say give Carca a pool of three.
FA / wilky / ???"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Did I townbin you too early after all?In post 452, Tchill13 wrote:Wilky, popo and Dave should be the options."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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A very "aware" notion imo.. while good, I havent seen anything like this from you ever before, so feels a bit weird though?In post 479, davesaz wrote:Somethings's wrong with my list because too many of the possible scum are lurkers.
But I'll try to turn this into a question now -in this specific game, don't you think we could actually, for once, have a full lurkerteam of scum?
I have my own thoughts on this, and will share them in full if dave first gives his in-depth answer.."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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OK, agree with the notion for Carca's shootpool then.
VOTE: Carcalilly - in case it wasn't a hammer yet."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Damn if we actually managed to name 2/3 scum in the shoot-pool..In post 499, nonny wrote:Not trying to AtE just feel need to give explaination, take it how you will"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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So my first impression here.
CT will claim masons/neighbours with Gamma next.
Flavor was apparently saved/blocked by a loud modifier(?)
It apparently WASN'T our already claimed Doc in CT (because why mention anything in that case but not name them? They have already claimed?)
Unless this is another Boon-gambit.
But this leaves me with a question -who did you save last night CT?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Realize that this might have huge implications for what happened last night."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I started to make a long post about what I'm most skeptical about, but realized that I want to hear from CT first.
CT HAS TO CLAIM THEIR TARGET FOR LAST NIGHT ASAP, and depending on what they claim, BOONS CLAIMED ACTIONS MIGHT HAVE TOTALLY DIFFERENT IMPLICATIONS.
We can't look beyond that potential connection before continuing."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I'll throw it back at you - what would be the scum-motivation behind making it clear I'm on a mislynch-wagon?In post 523, FA_Q2 wrote:Why throw another vote out there when the hammer was pretty clear? Why even post this? If that was not the hammer, how does that help town?
I really thought Carca was either scum or her shot would have benefited us..apparently she should've just shot you instead?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Boon, let me guess something once CT has claimed their action for last night.
For now, I think I have two mutually exclusive scenarios running in my head at the same time, and both of them have AT LEAST ONE of Boon/Chill as scum.
Thoughts on that Boon?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Damn, CT posted already..I'll post when I get home in ~2hours."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Is this you giving townpoints to FA for saying it?In post 543, Tchill13 wrote:This is what I was looking for when I said we should control carcas shot. I was looking for someone, more than one person but it's fine, to hesitate to do that."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I'm not set on one specific team yet, I'm trying to figure this shit out.In post 529, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Unabombah, you appear to have a suspicion as to what the scumteam is, can you elaborate on that theory?
But getting to my tryhard-post after this "catchup".
This is the very same argument why I'm thinking that if Boon is scum after all, then so are you!In post 530, Tchill13 wrote:My main concerns are:
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Una (anyone comfortable playing scum with boon while day chat is allowed is a danger to town and will not be easy to sniff out)
I can see this perspective, as I have some good experience with the bro myself.In post 530, Tchill13 wrote:Boon is a better player than for us to get this far and he not know who scum is, or even been on a scum push yet. This is his ultimate downfall as scum. His reads are usually too good as town to be this bad.
But I also have a theory on why he has played the way he has here - he wanted to make sure him ever potentially dying of his night action would result in two deaths (because scum wouldn't exceptionally want to kill him here), and therefore lead to a guilty because of his crumbs.
I'm hoping he trusted in me being town, because I would've been on them like a hound if he ever died during the night and we had another kill at the same time.
(Remember Blessed Mafia? )
Well, it might already be too late in my books if you are town after all of this.In post 531, Completly Trustworthy wrote:I have a confession to make Unabombah. I'm a vanilla townie, not a PR. I'm admitting this now because I feel like its unlikely I'll be nightkilled soon and the chance of accidentally outing a PR is too high at this moment. Also, I feel like the scum may try to push me now due to my claim being uncomfirmable, so its better to come clean now rather than later.
I have a feeling your loud visitor might be to thank for that.In post 532, Flavor Leaf wrote:Well, I know I’m town and if I wasn’t roleblocked that means Chill is town.
I hope they have already managed to slip something towards you or at least will soon enough.
I'm really starting to lean towards scum!Chill, but we'll see..
These four slots, all 4 of them to be exact, does not make sense to me. At least one scum in here.In post 534, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m town reading Unah, Tchill, Dave, and CT.
Not true 100% of the time.In post 537, Flavor Leaf wrote:Regards to CT, scum has no reason to backtrack the claim right here.
I'll try to write stream of consciousness after this wall.
...and we actually got this post before I got to writing!!!In post 544, Tchill13 wrote:VOTE: completely trustworthy
That's a terrible reason to claim. You also know as scum that someone would be pointing out the fact you hadn't died yet by now. This has red flags all over it.
I think this might confirm my thoughts on the scumteam."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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So, this post might be a bit lacking in formatting, likely no quotes, just me rambling my brains empty before I go to sleep.
Try to get something coherent out of this if at all possible.
Why I'm starting to feel certain Boon is town now?
With all the killing roles/potential "bonus" deaths this game I'm starting to feel 100% certain we have a protective role around.
Even if we were to fully question Boons "weak" modifier, we still had a Venge AND a Vig in a game that has yet to flip a protective.
One investigative.
So Boon being a "weak investigative, heh" as a weak Visitor makes perfect sense to me. IF we have something like a JK/Doc.
I had my reservations about CT's claim yesterday (or atleast it being town and not just scum ) but I realized when Boon claimed weak visitor, that town could actually value a protective role heavily in this game.
And now that CT has removed the WIFOM around themselves completely, I have no doubts in my mind that Boon was protected last night.
Them bringing a loud modifier up the way they did implies town to me as well.
So with "town!Boon", a protective exists. Making more sense to me role-wise, and also meaning that Chill has NOT been confirmed town (if I understand weak correctly?)
And to add even more - scum!Boon has no reason to townconf. Chill here.Meaning that either they are both town, or Chill is scum and Boon got saved by Loud McLeod.
I'm deciding that Boon is locktown as of now, and if I'm wrong, so be it.
So why was I initially worried about Boon/Chill?
I felt almost certain CT was going to claim a protective somewhere other than Boon, making Boon town-confirm Chill with his weak-modifier.
AND NOW IMAGINE IF THAT WOULD BE OUR SCUMTEAM.(CT+Boon+Chill) Everyone now trusting Boon+Chill to be town AND CT being the only one at risk to die because they were a claimed doc who doesn't die)
I played a game with Chill and Boon being scum together (Blessed Mafia, recommend checking it out if you want to see how scum!Boon+Chill can destroy a mans life.)
I decided that it was paranoia, and IF Boon were to be scum, they would've coached CT to likely stick to their claim.
What is the scumteam then?
I'm thinking CT for "obvious" reasons.
The fakeclaim was hastily put together D2, on the spot I think.
The repercussions of him being unable to die at night weren't thought of beforehand, which is why they got cold feet today and they backed out of the claim altogether.
The potential "ninja" and "rolecop" were thrown out to try and gather SOMETHING to maybe explain SOMETHING.
CT still hasn't explained why they "knew" that Gamma didn't see anyone N1 although "gamma watched profii".
I mean, there are tons of reasons, and I actually wanted them lynched D2 already, and that wagon got destroyed by the Doc-claim alone mind you.
...and because I'm thinking CT, I'm also thinking Chill. Yap.
No quotes as promised, but I'm absolutely positive Chill did some clever distancing towards CT yesterday and now today.
Check his latest post AND VOTE TOWARDS CT.
Chill just said that the reasons for fakeclaiming were bad, and totally skated over the more damning (in my opinion at least) argument that CT also claims to have knowledge of Gammas actions N1..and still absolutely no reason why they didn't die last night.
It becomes a chain in my mind at this point.
I'm thinking CT+Chill is a lock to me at this point, if town!Boon is a lock.
Since town!Boon is feeling solid, we almost certainly have a protective -> making scum!Chill still a possibility.
Turning it around in my head: if Boon were to be scum here, Chill would still be scum with him.
And the third scum would still likely just be CT anyway.
So CT+Chill = scum. We just need to find the assumed third scum to take this home."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Lol, read my ramblings above.In post 547, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Unah - you’re right within that 4...I’m starting to feel like Tchill is scum. I don’t feel my target mattered, tbh. I was likely blocked."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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To be fair, I somehow missed this.In post 544, Tchill13 wrote:You also know as scum that someone would be pointing out the fact you hadn't died yet by now. This has red flags all over it.
Chill DID point this aspect out."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Oh, lost thought so I just sent that wall, but I now remembered one thing I wanted to address.
I'm thinking CT (or their teammates) thought it wiser to backtrack the whole claim rather than try to come up with faked targets.
It still wouldn't change the fact they didn't die last night themselves, and assuming they were town and wanted to make a reasonable claim for a target..they would have to claim having saved Boon.
And now here's the kicker - having heard Boons claim, they didn't want to "UNCONFIRM" Chill as town!!!
So they couldn't claim a protect on Boon with the hope that Chill survives from the back of Boon "confirming" them, so they decided to not claim protect on anyone else either -> backtrack the whole claim."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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(I just recommend it to everyone because I still caught all three of you out on that gambit, and got praised in the dead thread )"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Only if I'm invited."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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BTW, wanna bet Chill is going to come back into this thread saying we are scum together right outta the gates?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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You never returned my return to your serve.In post 577, FA_Q2 wrote:Scum is ct/una
In Tennis, that would be advantage, Una..
I think your name has been thrown around the most in the last two days. Yet I have a feeling you are not even trying to solve, but just disrupt and hope people leave you alone?
FA+CT as scum then?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Hey Boon, if you actually had to throw a whole scumteam on the table right now, what would it be?
I don't feel as energetic as I did last night after a few beers, so I'm not going to be able to do the heavy lifting necessary to point out every scummy connection I currently see whenever CT or Chill posts..but I do see a lot.
I'm just worried it's more than 50% conf.bias, if I'm really the only one who thinks CT+Chill makes sense..
Please give me some fresh perspective! (I'll read tomorrow)"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I was just about to suggest something like this to you, but I hear you loud and clear!In post 618, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Unah - Wifoming scum with this one, but I’m trusting you with it. No further comments shall be made with this, as it makes it irrelevant.
Let's focus on who to lynch today instead then.
If I'm reading this situation correctly, we more or less have to land a scum!lynch today or we lose.
Giving us something like a ~20% chance to survive one more day with a mislynch today..depending how good I am with my guesses.
Which lynch feels like the safest to everyone?
I'm really finding it hard to shake my suspicions towards CT+Chill.
Every post from either of them today has only strengthened my pairing-read of them.
And if I've understood correctly, Chill "scumreads" CT and CT now "scumreads" Chill?
Unless I'm absolutely wrong with thoughts here, I'd say there's close to a 100% chance at least one of them is scum!
Because the way I see it, it's either that they are both scum and trying to do their best to distance, or one of them is scum, and doing their best to tie in with the other to maybe get a mislynch on them tomorrow..
Does that make sense to anyone else?
And if it does, let's assume one of them is town.Which of them?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I know it would be silly to ask of you whether you agree with my scumread on you two, but I'll phrase it like this:In post 621, Tchill13 wrote:Somebody say something I want to see takes on unas idea lol.are you objectively able to see where I'm coming from?"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Thought the exact same!In post 636, Flavor Leaf wrote:Lol, and the award for scummiest post in the game goes to Nonny.
So, for funsies before going to bed: I'm going to be assuming scum!nonny for this post, to maybe try and squeeze something out of this one..Guessing one buddy for now in here..?
But I guess more likely two in the "townreads" than two in the "scumreads" IMO, considering how well the scum team has seemingly done so far.
Leaving me with one/two of FA/Chill..go figure.
This is rather surprising to me, as I'd guess there's likely no need to list at least both scumbuddies into scumreads at this point?
Meaning at least reundo wouldn't perhaps ever be scum with nonny then? (unless CT somehow read their role-PM wrong? )
Also want to point out, that I got the feeling of "need" to put a separate "SR on CT" after the two scum"leans".
It's only dave andIn post 635, nonny wrote:Everyone else is fuzzy and I need to sort.nonnynot listed in this post...and I think you might townread nonny, or..? So, uh...not much fuzzy to clear then, eh?
In short: I think scum!nonny would be teamed with 2/3 from the ones I've colored red.
"BUT UNA, YOU HAVE JUST DONE NOTHING USEFUL, SINCE IT'S STILL HALF OF THE REMAINING PLAYERS YOU HAVE THERE!"
Up yours, I'm off to bed. (and what I think this opened up to me, is that reundo+nonny doesn't seem to make a lot of sense)"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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OK, that^^ was supposed to be a one-off post with a silly-little for an agenda.
But it actually got me thinking whether Gamma had crumbed any investigation-results, negative or not, and what else could've been overlooked D2 because of that whole Vengeful-thing.
Didn't find anything at first, but then found myself reading until I was at the start of D3.
Then multiple things hit me in succession and I went deeper back in the game..and this is the story of what I found.
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My own first impressions from what had already been posted at the start of D3.In post 519, UnaBombaH wrote:Flavor was apparently saved/blocked by a loud modifier(?)
It apparently WASN'T our already claimed Doc in CT (because why mention anything in that case but not name them? They have already claimed?)
Notice how I automatically got stuck with the thought that CT can't be the one Boon is talking about -> another protective/blocker could be afoot.....OR SIMPLY CT HAD IN FACT FAKECLAIMED D2.
Just a reminder:
Now back to D3, and it becomes more understandable that CT might want to back out of their claim.In post 388, UnaBombaH wrote:CT was on profii all of D1.
profii was the nightkill.
CT claims even-night(?) Doc.
What are the odds we ever get that role confirmed?
They are now feeling certain there's an actual town!protective moving around (and so was I ), and they are certain to get in a 1v1 with them if they stick to their fakeclaim.
So I think I accidentally did something very good in here by ending my post with:
..and this obviously soon led to the retraction of the whole claim.In post 519, UnaBombaH wrote:But this leaves me with a question - who did you save last night CT?
Meaning to say - I think CT revealing their claim to be fake was by no mean towny.
In fact, it was more clearly scum when I go back to D2 for another moment...followed by..
...and..
..finally leading into:In post 366, Carcalilly wrote:You'd have to ask the mod what will happen when you Lynch me in lylo
Now that I went back and read that all in succession it hit me even harder.In post 371, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Also, I claim even night doctor.
CT claimed Doc for two reasons.
To avoid being the lynch there, sure.
BUT MORE LIKELY TO JUST TRY AND SNIFF OUT THE TOWN!PROTECTIVE THAT HAD JUST BECOME VERY MUCH LIKELY, maybe even obvious!
We had a Vig-flip, and a Venge-not so-softclaim in a very short period of time.
Had CT not made it out of that situation, it would've likely been just because our protective would've had to counterclaim!
Scum were becoming aware of the fact that we would likely have someone to stop some kills, and CT seemed to be going down anyway. Why not try and milk it while potentially even avoiding the lynch altogether?
So, with all that in mind..I still wanted to check what CT had to say in their next longer post after this.. (colorings and boldings in quotes are my own obviously)
..which they apparently did? How inconvenient.In post 377, Completly Trustworthy wrote:, but he's claiming a PR. Therefore;I still feel like Flavor Leaf deciding to vote me because I was on the Profii wagon was a little suspiciousits best to let the scum team sort out his alignment. They won't let him run unchecked.
Did you get a better case then?In post 377, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Tchill I personally townread at this point.
-- He was also one of the first people to express suspicion of me and was consistent in that, he didn't seem to just sheep popular opinion. I would like a better case from him though.
You liked the rest of his game so much you just couldn't help but to kill him the following night?In post 377, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Gamma's vote for me was extremely sudden as I said, I would like to know why he suspects me since he has experience playing with me before.I've liked the rest of his game so fardue to meta experience and his relative abundance of content compared to other posters.
I'm feeling bold right about now. I'd be willing to bet there's only one scum in here.. Call me a genius.In post 377, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Right now I'd be willing to lynch Una, Wilky, Nonny, or FA."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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..and before I really go to bed..see what Chill to say right after post #377!
I'm not making this shit up!
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--> reason to keep scumreading Boon after Carca flips town?In post 379, Tchill13 wrote:So we can lynch carca now and if she flips scum then boon is probably town.....
..I'd like to add CT to the list.In post 633, Tchill13 wrote:I think the nonny/tchill scum team is the only one that makes any sense objectively if you're attacking me.
I mean, you are one of my favorites Chill, but.. You are either so far off as town here that I don't think I've ever seen before, or you are just scum with CT, and you gave your whole game away with that Doc-claim.
And now I'm off to bed."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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I'd like to hear arguments for this.In post 643, Tchill13 wrote:Flavor if you're town you'll vote una with me.
If I haven't been transparently town to you so far, I propably can't do much to convince you anyway.
I'm trying to think of a town motivation for Chill to say something like this, and all I can think of, is a scenario where town!Chill is still paranoid of Boon.
Which still makes very little sense to me.
I'll humor you Chill, and assume for a moment that you are town here regardless of all the interactions I've found.
For you to be town, it would likely mean that CT is town as well then? Or have they been able to weave these connections between the two of you just to get you lynched alongside themself?
Give me a scumteam I'm able to understand and accept then!
I'm starting to feel good about nonny/reundo not being on the same team.
You can't name me without casing me properly, and if you're trying to be transparently town here, I'd advice against trying to case me anyway..
So if you want to make a solid argument for a scumteam, you are actually quite limited with where to point.
But please do try.
Like, not just name a team, try to show how you get there."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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At least one scum, sure.
I'll go even further, I'd say there's likely one scum in FA/nonny, but currently I'm thinking not two.
A lynch in that trio is in my eyes a 33% successful lynch, while lynching in Chill/CT/FA/nonny is pretty much 75%.
For you to suggest such a trio that excludes both of you (well obviously you need to exclude yourself, not gonna argue that ) and CT, makes me think (yet again, even more strongly) that one of nonny/FA is a mislynch."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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To format my thoughts into two separate parts, while still keeping the logic same:
I'm thinking that if we lynch CT/Chill = 100% scum.
Therefore (obv. assuming 3 scum) lynching in FA/nonny/dave/reundo is 25% to me.
I'm obviously leaving myself and my top townread in Boon out of this all, andI'm gonna narrow this just a little more.
I think I've heard just enough of dave to sort them as town (I'm thinking Boon agrees?), and out of nonny/reundo, nonny has the latest scummy post, and more tie-ins with my top scumreads as well, leaving reundo out.
FA has been suspected by multiple players so far, and was one of Gammas top scumreads as well (if I remember correctly). Their D3 has also felt very much empty as well, so no trouble seeing scumpotential there.
..leaving me with a good feeling about having one scum in FA/nonny, so a 50% there.
Combine that with CT/Chill and it's 3/4 -> 75%.
I'm starting to feel like there isn't much more I can say at this point, but I feel like I'm ready to lynch anyone in that group of four IF Boon agrees with my logic.
If we are lynching in CT/Chill, I don't even care who's on the wagon because I'm certain we'll hit scum.
So leaving the mic open for anyone else to take it now.
I'll be checking the thread every day, but don't feel like spamming anymore until something actually gets done by someone else."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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These kind of reads and interpretations are always formed one way or another (the opposite).In post 652, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Also, I feel like you are indeed being influenced by confirmation bias slightly. You said that a member of the scumteam has no need to put both their partners as scumreads in 637. On day three I've consistently scumread Fa, Nonny, and Tchill13. You're currently suggesting I'm teammates with Tchill and one of FA/Nonny, wouldn't it be odd for me to do that then?
Unless it wasn't clear before - a singular scum who isn't/hasn't been widely scumread so far has no reason to try and "distance" from their teammates beforehand. (as they won't likely be the lynch themselves)
Especially if it might risk their buddies becoming the lynch for the day. (and scum potentially needs only one more mislynch to win)
The thing is obviously upside down for someone like you, who has been mentioned as a potential lynch candidate for a while now.
You would need to try and distance from your teammates at this point, especially considering that you have previously been too tightly knit together with Chill."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Wrong assessment.In post 660, Tchill13 wrote:UNA has aggressively tried to get me lynched today. Latched on to that suspicion immediately this day phase.
Haven't "tried to get you lynched".
I heavily scumread CT for their fakeclaim, and had them as my #1 lynchcandidate before they claimed Doc anyway.
The way you have been tied together with CT, and the way your reads have been very uncomprehensable both indicate scum on you as well.
So if you really "scumread" me for scumreading you this game.."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Oh, and unless it wasn't clear to everyone already - at least one of nonny, Reundo and Completly Trustworthy are basically confirmed scum now. OR we are facing a scumteam that just flat out sucks at coordinating.
Keep discussing people, I'll just keep popping in from time to time.
I'm going back to work today (had a week long holiday), so I might be busy today specifically.
Otherwise not much will change."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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We are in MyLo right?In post 688, nonny wrote:
Can you expand on this? Not sure I fully get what you mean.In post 687, UnaBombaH wrote:Oh, and unless it wasn't clear to everyone already - at least one of nonny, Reundo and Completly Trustworthy are basically confirmed scum now. OR we are facing a scumteam that just flat out sucks at coordinating."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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Are you able to post in realtime Boon?
I'll leave for work soon, but I have some time."If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
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