Mini 2034: DnD uPick (Town Victory!)

[RightKnight]

Castle

[RightKnight]

Castle

~ Checkmate

[RightKnight]

Rest in pieces the 3DS

also, might makes right right knight?

I think smart, morelike.

I’m excited about playing this game, despite knowing nothing about DnD.

~ Checkmate

[RightKnight]

wtf no one commented on my scum slip you all suck

Lololol, I’ve seen that done so many times now, I defacto just read it as NAI.

~ CM

[RightKnight]

Rest in pieces the 3DS

also, might makes right right knight?

I think smart, morelike.

I’m excited about playing this game, despite knowing nothing about DnD.

~ Checkmate

SAME BRUH.

ive never played DnD before lmao

Thank

God

A50 for hydras.

[RightKnight]

Rest in pieces the 3DS

also, might makes right right knight?

I think smart, morelike.

I’m excited about playing this game, despite knowing nothing about DnD.

~ Checkmate

SAME BRUH.

ive never played DnD before lmao

Thank

God

A50 for hydras.

I mean Aristophanes.

My hydra partner is going to kill me now.

[RightKnight]

less risk of referencing talking w/ mod

( ･᷄ὢ･᷅ )

I keep getting them mixed up.

[RightKnight]

less risk of referencing talking w/ mod

( ･᷄ὢ･᷅ )

I keep getting them mixed up.

P.edit Right RC?

[RightKnight]

I wasn't even aware there was a level mechanic?

neither am i.

I mean, I heard something about it in the signups where you get more powers as the game progresses?

but idrk

This must be something connected with DnD, I think? I do know it’s a table top game where they “level up” with dice or something? I’m not sure how that would translate here.

Any experienced DnD players care to weigh in on this?

[RightKnight]

wtf no one commented on my scum slip you all suck

page 1/ page 2 scum claim NAI
>much first hand experience

We can instantly lose by levelling up too much? Seems strange.

I agree that it seems strange with ONLY what I have - my presumption is that SCUM, as they also should be able to level up, have an ability than secrues them an ensured victory. FOR the sake of game balance I doubt it will come up in most scenarios but I presume that it is important to state SINCE that is the major part of my role sofar. I preposterise it exists as a failsafe for end-game strategies that revolve around no-lynching CHEESE but that is mere speculation (ʃ⌣́,⌣́ƪ)

wtf no one commented on my scum slip you all suck

Kusukusu... (*・艸・)

im still really confused on what you even mean

I hardclaim town

OMG THIS IS SCUM
/s

Why?
Re: the bolded

[RightKnight]

Rest in pieces the 3DS

also, might makes right right knight?

Wrong. My Queen makes right. They do the checkmating. Right, Checkmate?

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Oh no I'm already a wagon did my opening post really seem that scummy partners?

Hey

scumbuddy

townblock mate, what do you make of my music choice?

[RightKnight]

Yes, in order to emulate characters learning more about their chosen profession as they adventure they can gain experience points which translate into levels. Wizards and other casters learn more spells and can cast more, rogues improve their stealthy capabilities and skill knowledge, and so on. Everything from combat to socializing can reward experience provided there is some sort of challenge to overcome! ヽ(〃･ω･)ﾉ

I think it is obvious that this translates to gaining abilities pertaining to role, and I can only presume that the enemy getting stronger and out of control can make the game unwinnable for us?

I’ve never played a game before where this has happened. Any idea how that might work?

[RightKnight]

wtf no one commented on my scum slip you all suck

Because we all know you’re in the town block <3

We feel it in our souls.

Or in my case my walls.

[RightKnight]

Rest in pieces the 3DS

also, might makes right right knight?

I think smart, morelike.

I’m excited about playing this game, despite knowing nothing about DnD.

~ Checkmate

SAME BRUH.

ive never played DnD before lmao

Thank

God

A50 for hydras.

I mean Aristophanes.

My hydra partner is going to kill me now.

Nope just gonna waggle my fingers at you. Hard.

[RightKnight]

Yes, in order to emulate characters learning more about their chosen profession as they adventure they can gain experience points which translate into levels. Wizards and other casters learn more spells and can cast more, rogues improve their stealthy capabilities and skill knowledge, and so on. Everything from combat to socializing can reward experience provided there is some sort of challenge to overcome! ヽ(〃･ω･)ﾉ

I think it is obvious that this translates to gaining abilities pertaining to role, and I can only presume that the enemy getting stronger and out of control can make the game unwinnable for us?

VOTE: Saske

Thou surely knows the art of shit post or reads day one yes?

Good do those. Otherwise you’re try harding.

[RightKnight]

Yes, in order to emulate characters learning more about their chosen profession as they adventure they can gain experience points which translate into levels. Wizards and other casters learn more spells and can cast more, rogues improve their stealthy capabilities and skill knowledge, and so on. Everything from combat to socializing can reward experience provided there is some sort of challenge to overcome! ヽ(〃･ω･)ﾉ

I think it is obvious that this translates to gaining abilities pertaining to role, and I can only presume that the enemy getting stronger and out of control can make the game unwinnable for us?

VOTE: Saske

Thou surely knows the art of shit post or reads day one yes?

~~Castle~~

Whoops forgot my sign
Good do those. Otherwise you’re try harding.

[RightKnight]

I’ve never played a game before where this has happened. Any idea how that might work?

Dost thou mean a game outside of a mafia game OR a mafia game? (´−｀) ﾝｰ

If you mean the latter THEN I think Eragon is almost right in that everyone is something like an advancing JOAT but we can only speculate until people level up and see what happens ┐(´-｀)┌

Checkmate means D&D

I am more the D&D buff

Checkmate’s gonna ruin the scum while I tell Checkmate what classes are.

[RightKnight]

Rest in pieces the 3DS

also, might makes right right knight?

Wrong. My Queen makes right. They do the checkmating. Right, Checkmate?

~~Castle

True, queens rule at chess. It would be cool if someone ever hosted a chess based Mafia game. I guess pawns would probably=vts in that case. Although technically since pawns can actually become queens, would that be bastard?

[RightKnight]

This must be something connected with DnD, I think? I do know it’s a table top game where they “level up” with dice or something? I’m not sure how that would translate here.

Any experienced DnD players care to weigh in on this?

OFCOURSE I know how to shitpost IF you are Almost50 thou hath LITREALLY seen me shitpost in a game before (눈_ლ)

How was I supposed to KNOW this was a shitpost it seemed genuine tome...

I am not almost 50

Checkmate got the name of the mod wrong

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Oh no I'm already a wagon did my opening post really seem that scummy partners?

Hey

scumbuddy

townblock mate, what do you make of my music choice?

Meh, mashups are okay when you like the actual songs but I’m sure it would be really fun in Google translate.

[RightKnight]

I am gonna go cast a spell of friendship and hang out with my friends.

For reals though look at Saske

[RightKnight]

Oh no I'm already a wagon did my opening post really seem that scummy partners?

Hey

scumbuddy

townblock mate, what do you make of my music choice?

Meh, mashups are okay when you like the actual songs but I’m sure it would be really fun in Google translate.

Oh god Look up Translator Fails Your stomach will hate me due to laughing so hard but your happiness quota will be amazed

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

wtf no one commented on my scum slip you all suck

Because we all know you’re in the town block <3

We feel it in our souls.

Or in my case my walls.

Not touching that.

~ Checkmate

[RightKnight]

I’ve never played a game before where this has happened. Any idea how that might work?

Dost thou mean a game outside of a mafia game OR a mafia game? (´−｀) ﾝｰ

If you mean the latter THEN I think Eragon is almost right in that everyone is something like an advancing JOAT but we can only speculate until people level up and see what happens ┐(´-｀)┌

A levelling up type Mafia game.

An advancing JOAT is an interesting concept.

[RightKnight]

I’ve never played a game before where this has happened. Any idea how that might work?

Dost thou mean a game outside of a mafia game OR a mafia game? (´−｀) ﾝｰ

If you mean the latter THEN I think Eragon is almost right in that everyone is something like an advancing JOAT but we can only speculate until people level up and see what happens ┐(´-｀)┌

Checkmate means D&D

I am more the D&D buff

Checkmate’s gonna ruin the scum while I tell Checkmate what classes are.

I hydra’d with you for a reason.

[RightKnight]

This must be something connected with DnD, I think? I do know it’s a table top game where they “level up” with dice or something? I’m not sure how that would translate here.

Any experienced DnD players care to weigh in on this?

OFCOURSE I know how to shitpost IF you are Almost50 thou hath LITREALLY seen me shitpost in a game before (눈_ლ)

How was I supposed to KNOW this was a shitpost it seemed genuine tome...

It wasn’t. I think Castle may be messing with you. lel

It was a serious question.

~ Checkmate

[RightKnight]

Okay SO apparently the leveling system is not public information!

So I guess only my role has knowledge of its existence WHICH makes sense! ^_^

Wasn't it in the sign-ups or am I imagining things

It was but the details weren’t if memory serves.

So I believe that whoever has knowledge of that should come forward.

~~Castle

And it was a serious ping Saske

[RightKnight]

You will be able to gain one shot abilities as well as you "level up."

I suppose it was part of Brass Herald’s original concept for the game, but Ari has specifically told me it is not public

pedit: I have knowledge of it existing so I suppose that is the design - though I was not told I got stronger or anything specific about it besides the loss condution

And OKAY I realized that BUT how was it evne a ping...

Because my brain works in mysterious ways. Weird things ping my gut I can’t explain.

Why me = fry me

If you’re town prove my ping wrong and scum hunt

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Idk but the thing pinging me from SIMYK right now is that we lose when we are at our most powerful level? Which is kinda contradicting for an rpg game?

That is why I speculate that it relates to a scum power but like I have elucidated to earlier it is probably better to no longer discuss it - it is MORE important to discuss reads and scumhunt now

And SPEAKING of which Castle IF you are going to accuse me of allocating exclusive attention onto mechanics despite the fact people were asking me QUESTIONS about my role, why did you not ask me about my townreads when I mentioned I possessed two?

I did not ask you because I like a narrow focus. I am trying to figure out if you have knowledge you shouldn’t.

[RightKnight]

Unfortunately bad pushes like these are, a majority of instances, not indicative of alignment for the Castle head

Yay instant assumptions of who I am for a meta I can’t possibly know without reading your mind. Fucking brilliant.

[RightKnight]

wtf no one commented on my scum slip you all suck

What would you want us to say?

"AHHHHH SCUUUUUMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1" and point fingers at you while the rest of the town gets pitchforks and torches?

I think the Messiah Complex has a town complex. (I townread them)

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

I hardclaim town

We cc. Looks like its you and us on the block today, everyone pick sides.

I pick neither since I townread both of you.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Yes, in order to emulate characters learning more about their chosen profession as they adventure they can gain experience points which translate into levels. Wizards and other casters learn more spells and can cast more, rogues improve their stealthy capabilities and skill knowledge, and so on. Everything from combat to socializing can reward experience provided there is some sort of challenge to overcome! ヽ(〃･ω･)ﾉ

I think it is obvious that this translates to gaining abilities pertaining to role, and I can only presume that the enemy getting stronger and out of control can make the game unwinnable for us?

VOTE: Saske

Thou surely knows the art of shit post or reads day one yes?

Good do those. Otherwise you’re try harding.

You obviously missed their post in the signup thread. It was exactly as showy as it is here. At least do a modicum of checking before voting someone based off posting style.

I am not voting based off playstyle I am trying to get something useful from them and see if they have knowledge I don’t. They seem informed.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Are we really going to talk about 1 game meta. Can we shift the topic to something more productive? 1 game isn't going to be a strong tell for any game what so ever nor should it be.
What do you think of joining me on schadd the other players? etc

I could see Saske and Shadd you feeling Saske and Schadd? I think they are scum.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Maria-chan I don't really want to vote schadd since because I am confident I could read him without pressure... But I am still pondering whom is the best vote at the moment since because nothing has really strongly pinged me sofar, I only have reason to townread people. Permit me a second to establish a LIST of reads just to ascertain what scale I am reading everyone as to see WHICH reads of mine are the weakest and go from there since because I am not keeping quantifying measures of my reads (´-｀)

Build a list please. Color me intrigued.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Maria HOW do you feel about Lovebird?

I did not ask you because I like a narrow focus. I am trying to figure out if you have knowledge you shouldn’t.

Are you claiming that I shouldn't know anything about Dungeons and Dragons...?? HOW does that even make sense...

Also schadd I think Eragon is town can you explain that read?

No. I am trying to figure out if you are scum with mechanics knowledge. The shade when the context is clear is entirely unwarranted. You’re trying to make me seem ridiculous.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

not really sowwy

(゜-゜)

pedit: Yes, Castle, I am informed about mechanics since because I am literally an informed townie...

pedit: Not at the present moment, UNLESS they are an alt I am not yet cognizant of?

If you are an informed townie why not inform us all of the mechanics?

Then we can see if what you say is true and read you off of it?

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

WELL since you asked:

MariaR, Eragon, Messiah Complex (Formerfish + Desperado), and Tatl and Tael (RadiantCowbells + Keychain) are my townreads - I THOUGHT I had more but I was mistaken. Schadd was an initial townread but I feel the others much more strongly so it is no longer in the same realm.

pedit: I do not need to apply any effort to do that, Castle :/. The POST you quoted was literally explaining to your other head HOW Dungeons and Dragons works so I do not know HOW they correlate.

pedit:

I possess NO repsonse

Again you misconstrue what I am saying. Either intentionally or not is to be seen.

You claim informed townie. Ignore the D&D for a moment. Why not tell us of what you are informed?

[RightKnight]

I possess NO repsonse

Why do you possess no response?

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

im still really confused on what you even mean

Basically if we accrue an exacerbated volume of levels (this is a mechanic that is incorporated into everyone's role) as a collective THEN the game becomes unwinnable for town! （＊〇□〇）……！

So if for example the LIMIT of levels is 115, and 6 people are at level 20 (the MAXIMUM), then town cannot win the game. BUT if they were all level 19 then there is still a shot!

I do not know if this is universal but I also know HOW I obtain additional levels and how many - and will not reveal this for ONVIOUS reasons. From how it is phrased either people level up at different rates OR they level up in different circumstances so IF there is a way to control leveling I think it is important to point out that we have a timer upon our heads!

You know how you obtain it. I do not know how I obtain mine. Others claim they do not know as well. You are not claiming anything new other than I know something you don’t. I did read the thread you have claimed literally nothing. I see no reason not to say how you get abilities here. (Made up reason) If it’s on a lynch then you’d be inherently motivated to move your vote around. (Another made up reason) if it is by not voting an abscence of a vote makes sense. By being transparent we could see if those apply to us and can read each other better. I don’t see a reason to hide how we level.

I am not asking what you do, I am asking HOW we level.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

I do not want to reveal when I receive powers, I believe only scum benefit from that knowledge at the present moment... If I felt it helped town I obviously would have claimed it.

And HOW is claiming that we are limited in the number of levels we have NOT claiming anything... （ ಠωಠ）??

pedit: You only asked me if I townread them not the reasons...

1) It benefits us as it’s possible we receive them in the same way. We also know if you do something “weird” we would know why. Or if you have to do something because of reasons we know why. It takes away the age old excuse of “reasons” that people can try in these setups. The more we have transparent the better we are as a whole.

2) Because it’s common fucking sense. If we had unlimited levels we would have unlimited days. If we had unlimited days it wouldn’t be a game.

[RightKnight]

I hardclaim town

We cc. Looks like its you and us on the block today, everyone pick sides.

I pick neither since I townread both of you.

~~Castle

Why are you townreading a slot with 2 posts and like a max of 10 words?

It’s actually less.

Because it’s Kokichi.

[RightKnight]

If we had unlimited levels we would have unlimited days. If we had unlimited days it wouldn’t be a game.

Then how do you explain other people being confused WHEN I stated there was a limit? The intuitive thing ot the theme is that we can all get to level 20 and nothing else happens after that - but that is not the case.

And I understand your prospective but I think it will be clear to everyone on the next day. BUT if other people would like me to claim then I will at this rate (´-｀)

I am gonna discuss this with my hydra partner.

I don’t really see why tomorrow is a good thing but I will defer to my hydra partner.

If you’re town then scum kill you we learn nothing.
If you’re scum then you’re just buying time because you’re poked.

I don’t see a reason to claim informed townie unless you go all the way and have intention to do so. Did you honestly think an entire game of players would go: “Oh Saske claimed something let’s judt pretend that didn’t happen?”

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Okay SO at least we know whom Castle is now and I no longer townread them...

I can already tell thisis going tobe a long game u__u;

Who do you think my partner is and how does that affect your reads? I’d bet money that your guess is wrong though.

~Checkmate

[RightKnight]

Idk but the thing pinging me from SIMYK right now is that we lose when we are at our most powerful level? Which is kinda contradicting for an rpg game?

That is why I speculate that it relates to a scum power but like I have elucidated to earlier it is probably better to no longer discuss it - it is MORE important to discuss reads and scumhunt now

And SPEAKING of which Castle IF you are going to accuse me of allocating exclusive attention onto mechanics despite the fact people were asking me QUESTIONS about my role,

why did you not ask me about my townreads when I mentioned I possessed two?

Shoot.

~ Checkmate

[RightKnight]

VOTE: Lovebird

Why?

[RightKnight]

VOTE: eragon ???

i odnt wanna vote lovebird anymore after having thot about it

This doesn’t really explain why you’re voting eragon?

~CM

[RightKnight]

wtf no one commented on my scum slip you all suck

What would you want us to say?

"AHHHHH SCUUUUUMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1" and point fingers at you while the rest of the town gets pitchforks and torches?

I think the Messiah Complex has a town complex. (I townread them)

~~Castle

Yeah, I think MC, Maria are probably town - T & T, maybe as well.

[RightKnight]

I hardclaim town

We cc. Looks like its you and us on the block today, everyone pick sides.

I pick neither since I townread both of you.

~~Castle

Why? Kokichi’s currently NAI for me.

[RightKnight]

Yes, in order to emulate characters learning more about their chosen profession as they adventure they can gain experience points which translate into levels. Wizards and other casters learn more spells and can cast more, rogues improve their stealthy capabilities and skill knowledge, and so on. Everything from combat to socializing can reward experience provided there is some sort of challenge to overcome! ヽ(〃･ω･)ﾉ

I think it is obvious that this translates to gaining abilities pertaining to role, and I can only presume that the enemy getting stronger and out of control can make the game unwinnable for us?

VOTE: Saske

Thou surely knows the art of shit post or reads day one yes?

Good do those. Otherwise you’re try harding.

You obviously missed their post in the signup thread. It was exactly as showy as it is here. At least do a modicum of checking before voting someone based off posting style.

I am not voting based off playstyle I am trying to get something useful from them and see if they have knowledge I don’t. They seem informed.

~~Castle

And you certainly would be able to ascertain that better than me, obviously.

[RightKnight]

If we had unlimited levels we would have unlimited days. If we had unlimited days it wouldn’t be a game.

Then how do you explain other people being confused WHEN I stated there was a limit? The intuitive thing ot the theme is that we can all get to level 20 and nothing else happens after that - but that is not the case.

And I understand your prospective but I think it will be clear to everyone on the next day. BUT

if other people would like me to claim then I will at this rate (´-｀)

I am gonna discuss this with my hydra partner.

I don’t really see why tomorrow is a good thing but I will defer to my hydra partner.

If you’re town then scum kill you we learn nothing.
If you’re scum then you’re just buying time because you’re poked.

I don’t see a reason to claim informed townie unless you go all the way and have intention to do so. Did you honestly think an entire game of players would go: “Oh Saske claimed something let’s judt pretend that didn’t happen?”

~~Castle

I dunno, I like Saske more than Schadd rn.

~ Checkmate

Just a vibe, I guess. *shrug*

The bolded makes me think you should reconsider your read.

[RightKnight]

I hardclaim town

We cc. Looks like its you and us on the block today, everyone pick sides.

I pick neither since I townread both of you.

~~Castle

Why are you townreading a slot with 2 posts and like a max of 10 words?

It’s actually less.

Because it’s Kokichi.

Is this like a "they are town until they arent" type of thing?

I think that Kokichi will make his alignment pretty clear, the more he posts.

[RightKnight]

are u tring tatl or tael

Arent they the same?

"from which head does the read source"

I know what you were asking, sorta. What I am saying is why would it matter which head the read was coming from? Do you trust their ability to read one head over the other? If the answer is one over the other what would that tell you? For me being part of a hydra is playing as one person. I know that isnt possible 100% but there shouldnt be much deviation from a base for the slot itself.

To each his own I guess. I mean you obviously have to agree on the final vote and obviously cannot be at odds with your hydra partner but having different ways of making reads and approaching the gamestate is, half the fun.

[RightKnight]

Might I inquire as to WHY you are not voting me or Eragon if we are apparently your scumreads? (^^ゞ

Or am I misapprrehending your pots?

i dont really. . sr either of you very hard but im . . . . . . . . . . . voting eragon

Why do you think eragon is scum?

[RightKnight]

Okay SO at least we know whom Castle is now and I no longer townread them...

I can already tell thisis going tobe a long game u__u;

Who do you think my partner is and how does that affect your reads? I’d bet money that your guess is wrong though.

~Checkmate

Mathblade and this is WELL within their scum range from what I have read...

It is also kind of obviously him so ya.

I will neither confirm nor deny this but you need to evaluate both hydra heads, to get a correct read on them.

[RightKnight]

gotta sleep for now.

making note to start catchup on page 9 next time i can

when u wake up can u show me a game u've played as maf or show something you have done this game that you think is unlike how you play as maf

VOTE: eragon ???

i odnt wanna vote lovebird anymore after having thot about it

This doesn’t really explain why you’re voting eragon?

~CM

it is a normal and non-detrimental thing that people do not explain votes as they make them

pedit: I was hoping thou wouldst at least forage an ATTEMPT to comprehend the inner machinations of my TWISTED mind (ᗒᗨᗕ)

sorry i am kind of doing that pwivately

All I did is question why you first voted Lovebird then switched to eragon? Yes, explaining your reasons for boting helps town decide both whether or not to sheep your votes, as well as how to correctly sort you.

The bolded strikes me a bit defensive, wouldn’t you say?

[RightKnight]

Do you guys not possess a private topic...? (・_・ヾ

Yeah, your point being?

[RightKnight]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Schaad

Rereading the game, I find many of his posts pinging. Many of his posts look more like busywork to me than actual solving.

He keeps on making posts that don’t really seem to be going anywhere and to look like he’s actually trying to solve, when he isn’t.

~ Checkmate

I ‘m not really sure my Castle is sr Saske but I think his slot’s alignment will become clearer as the game goes on.

[RightKnight]

Might I inquire as to WHY you are not voting me or Eragon if we are apparently your scumreads? (^^ゞ

Or am I misapprrehending your pots?

i dont really. . sr either of you very hard but im . . . . . . . . . . . voting eragon

Why do you think eragon is scum?

I would say Eragon is scum if and only if schadd is scum.

But I am gonna take a back seat to Checkmate for a bit.

In regards to the hydra PT yes we have one. I was sneaking on as I could and we have time zone issues so I just posted my thoughts in thread since I was phone posting as I could.

Instead of sneaking on today I will just let Checkmate do their thing since we both scumread schadd.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

This is my last post for now

What I mean is that I am NOT. A frozen wolf.
I have never had a problem acting causal/posting/having fun, so that is not a towntelln or a scum tell.
And catchups, what I mean is don’t townread me for POSTING catchups. I can MAKE catchups as scum or town just as easily.
If you like the CONTENT of the catchup, that’s up to your read, but jus tbecuase im posting catchups does not mean I’m town or scum

Agree with the concept. Your catchups are shit.

~~Checkmate

Couldn’t resist.

[RightKnight]

This is my last post for now

What I mean is that I am NOT. A frozen wolf.
I have never had a problem acting causal/posting/having fun, so that is not a towntelln or a scum tell.
And catchups, what I mean is don’t townread me for POSTING catchups. I can MAKE catchups as scum or town just as easily.
If you like the CONTENT of the catchup, that’s up to your read, but jus tbecuase im posting catchups does not mean I’m town or scum

Agree with the concept. Your catchups are shit.

~~Checkmate

Couldn’t resist.

I am Castle sorry!

Omfg I am braindead. Sorry!

[RightKnight]

im still really confused on what you even mean

Basically if we accrue an exacerbated volume of levels (this is a mechanic that is incorporated into everyone's role) as a collective THEN the game becomes unwinnable for town! （＊〇□〇）……！

So if for example the LIMIT of levels is 115, and 6 people are at level 20 (the MAXIMUM), then town cannot win the game. BUT if they were all level 19 then there is still a shot!

I do not know if this is universal but I also know HOW I obtain additional levels and how many - and will not reveal this for ONVIOUS reasons. From how it is phrased either people level up at different rates OR they level up in different circumstances so IF there is a way to control leveling I think it is important to point out that we have a timer upon our heads!

shrug

but

im assuming that town would start off at level 1 right

?

Eragon, this is the main reason Castle sr you. He assumed you had to be scum because he read it as you were NOT town, saying this. I pointed out to him, that this statement had to be NAI because it makes no sense for scum to have been disadvantaged in such a way, not to also start off at level 1.

[RightKnight]

This is my last post for now

What I mean is that I am NOT. A frozen wolf.
I have never had a problem acting causal/posting/having fun, so that is not a towntelln or a scum tell.
And catchups, what I mean is don’t townread me for POSTING catchups. I can MAKE catchups as scum or town just as easily.
If you like the CONTENT of the catchup, that’s up to your read, but jus tbecuase im posting catchups does not mean I’m town or scum

Agree with the concept. Your catchups are shit.

~~Checkmate

Couldn’t resist.

NOOO MY UNFULFILLED HEART.

It has been shattered like a glass king hit by a knight ;_;
I will die forgotten and lost without your approval

im still really confused on what you even mean

Basically if we accrue an exacerbated volume of levels (this is a mechanic that is incorporated into everyone's role) as a collective THEN the game becomes unwinnable for town! （＊〇□〇）……！

So if for example the LIMIT of levels is 115, and 6 people are at level 20 (the MAXIMUM), then town cannot win the game. BUT if they were all level 19 then there is still a shot!

I do not know if this is universal but I also know HOW I obtain additional levels and how many - and will not reveal this for ONVIOUS reasons. From how it is phrased either people level up at different rates OR they level up in different circumstances so IF there is a way to control leveling I think it is important to point out that we have a timer upon our heads!

shrug

but

im assuming that town would start off at level 1 right

?

Eragon, this is the main reason Castle sr you. He assumed you had to be scum because he read it as you were NOT town, saying this. I pointed out to him, that this statement had to be NAI because it makes no sense for scum to have been disadvantaged in such a way, not to also start off at level 1.

I didn’t even know you scumread me

*･゜ﾟ･*:.｡..｡.:*･'(*ﾟ▽ﾟ*)'･*:.｡. .｡.:*･゜ﾟ･*

I’m not but Castle did. We are not in sycnc on all of our reads. We both think MC, Maria and TT are likely to be town and sr Schaad but we’re clearly not on the same page on you and Saske.

[RightKnight]

Okay SO at least we know whom Castle is now and I no longer townread them...

I can already tell thisis going tobe a long game u__u;

Who do you think my partner is and how does that affect your reads? I’d bet money that your guess is wrong though.

~Checkmate

Mathblade and this is WELL within their scum range from what I have read...

It is also kind of obviously him so ya.

I will neither confirm nor deny this but you need to evaluate both hydra heads, to get a correct read on them.

It’s hard to evaluate both heads when
1. No one knows
2. Some posts have ‘names’, some posts are blank, and some posts have the wrong names

So it’s p. Hard to accurately evaluate both heads

Castle signed my name by mistake of on one of his posts. I think our posting styles are so radically different, I think it should be obvious which one of us is posting but we both will try to do better with the signing thing.

Also, he is an expert on DnD and I pretty much know jack about it, so there’s that too.

[RightKnight]

I hardclaim town

We cc. Looks like its you and us on the block today, everyone pick sides.

I pick neither since I townread both of you.

~~Castle

Why are you townreading a slot with 2 posts and like a max of 10 words?

It’s actually less.

Because it’s Kokichi.

But why “Becuase it’s kokichi”
I’ve only played with Kokichi once when we were both scum of opposing team multiball

do u possess a response to me

I am initiating to embody the thalposis that reading is not the strong suit of this playerlist (‘д’)

Most of us just speak a form of english that is not as evolved as yours. There have been a few posts from people where i literally have no vlue what that they are saying.

"i think this player list is bad at reading"

:YeeeThink:

If we had unlimited levels we would have unlimited days. If we had unlimited days it wouldn’t be a game.

Then how do you explain other people being confused WHEN I stated there was a limit? The intuitive thing ot the theme is that we can all get to level 20 and nothing else happens after that - but that is not the case.

And I understand your prospective but I think it will be clear to everyone on the next day. BUT if other people would like me to claim then I will at this rate (´-｀)

I am gonna discuss this with my hydra partner.

I don’t really see why tomorrow is a good thing but I will defer to my hydra partner.

If you’re town then scum kill you we learn nothing.
If you’re scum then you’re just buying time because you’re poked.

I don’t see a reason to claim informed townie unless you go all the way and have intention to do so. Did you honestly think an entire game of players would go: “Oh Saske claimed something let’s judt pretend that didn’t happen?”

~~Castle

Forgive me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the info for informed town given on the rolecard?
Like, as an “ability” of sorts?
Meaning the info will appear if the “informed towny” dies?

Also, didn’t they say that they’ve said pretty much all the information they have?

For me being part of a hydra is playing as one person.

that reminds me, when will desperado swing by?

Why do you ask?
Is it just OOG reasons or would you make a conclusion on it?

Interesting point.

~ Checkmate (no mistake this time. )

[RightKnight]

Prod dodge.

Fever more than 100 migraine from hell.

Haven’t read since last post.

Sorry Checkmate.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

hey keychain can we vote

town

knight.

Fixed it for you, RC.

I’m now questioning my Schadd vote since at least part of it was based on sheeping you, mistakenly thinking you had a half-decent scumdar or maybe my confident early townread on your slot was too quick? \_0_/

~ motherfucking TOWN Checkmate

UNVOTE:

[RightKnight]

This is my last post for now

What I mean is that I am NOT. A frozen wolf.
I have never had a problem acting causal/posting/having fun, so that is not a towntelln or a scum tell.
And catchups, what I mean is don’t townread me for POSTING catchups. I can MAKE catchups as scum or town just as easily.
If you like the CONTENT of the catchup, that’s up to your read, but jus tbecuase im posting catchups does not mean I’m town or scum

Agree with the concept. Your catchups are shit.

~~Checkmate

Couldn’t resist.

NOOO MY UNFULFILLED HEART.

It has been shattered like a glass king hit by a knight ;_;
I will die forgotten and lost without your approval

did u feel as though ur catchup(s) were particularly on point this game

Castle mistakenly signed his name to this post. It doesn’t reflect my view.
~CM

[RightKnight]

https://dnd-wiki.org/wiki/Voodoo_Doll_(3.5e_Spell)

Voodoo Doll
Necromancy [Evil]
Level: Assassin 2, Cleric 2, Sorcerer/Wizard 2
Components: V, S, F
Casting time: 1 standard action
Range: Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
Target: One corporeal living creature
Duration: Concentration, up to 1 minute/level (D)
Saving Throw: Will negates and Fortitude partial; See text
Spell Resistance: Yes
Cross the heart, hope they die, stick a needle in their eye.

If a target fails the save against this spell, the doll you hold in your hand takes on an appearance like them. You may proceed to push pin needles into the doll, subsequently injuring the actual creature. When the creature fails the save you can immediately push a pin in, and another each round as a standard action. Pins deal 1d6 points of damage per 2 caster levels (maximum 10d6 at 20th), and have an additional effect depending where you stab the target. The creature needs to possess the appropriate body part.

Arm: The target takes a -4 penalty to attack rolls.
Body: The target takes a -4 penalty to AC.
Face: The target takes a 20% miss chance as its partly blinded.
Leg: The target's non-fly speeds are halved.
Tail: The target takes a -10 penalty to Balance and Jump checks.
Throat: The target takes a 20% chance to be unable to speak, acting as spell failure for vocal component spells.
Wing: The target's fly speeds are halved.

[RightKnight]

this was an exhausting catchup
Im not familiar with like, anyone, in this playerlist besides maria, kokichi and messiah
And then half the posts i struggled to comprehend because of weird language

VOTE: lovebird

saske, maria, messiah are town

Lol, definitely agree. Plus all the hydras.

Though, don't agree with the read on messiah.

All the hydras includes MC.

[RightKnight]

Why do you think I would definitely be building up to a vote on you?

the way you have spoken about me is similar in memory to other times people have built up to voting me that have made me frustrated

you can compare to rightknight in this very game for example

I didn’t just unvote you because of RC, based on your recent posts, I’m now rethinking our read on you.

~ Checkmate

[RightKnight]

with all the hydras he meant that the hydras contribute to the chaos

definitely math or nancy in this hydra

Oh I was wondering why LB would be townreading to ALL the hydras but then post they were sr MC.

So, I think you could be town here Wisdom. Is LB still your strongest sr? And who do you think might be their partner(s)?

[RightKnight]

Another prod dodge sorry. Spent the day sweating and just nasty.
Checkmate is keeping me appraised.
I have a weird feeling I don’t know how to explain about things so am okay with Checkmate driving. Mainly I feel like something wrong is happening and I don’t know how to explain it.
~~Castle

[RightKnight]

idk im kinda doubting my sr there now
i should reread this mess prolly

Castle says that LB is scummy as either alignment.

~ CM

[RightKnight]

I'd find it useful if not everyone's username was distilled to 2 letter acronyms if possible because I'm going to lose track super quickly between RC, MC, CM, LB etc.

hey keychain can we vote scumknight

VOTE: RightKnight

I'm personally feeling better about ceejay (despite the increased support there - SIMYK if town I suspect your accuracy is higher than mine, I should be sheeping you before you sheep me) and kind of find Lovebird's vote there skeevy.

okay SO Kechain I think it would be most elementary for myself to elaborate upon my alexithymia regarding SCHADD by explaining what I LIKED and what I DISLIKED:

GOOD

• is MORE INTERACTIVE than I have seen in the past from him as scum!
  
• has not handed me a FREE townread and I still think he doth not townread me? so ya
  
• I AGREE with his reads except on Eragon and myself OBVI...
  
• I preposterise that it must be a reasonable action for schadd to initiate questioning my HISTORY of reading Raybells since because of our history/my INEPTITUDE in reading Raybells!

BAD

• WHAT he is interacting with seems LACKING but this game possesses an unfortunate DEARTH of content that is exciting... so that could be the reason why
  
• His frusttration with ERAGON seems a bit self-conscious?

WHILE there are more GOOD bullets in this specific repsonse it does not mean the townread outweighs the scumread for the purpose of the record! I do think that first bullet in the BAD column is MOST INTRIGUING when it comes to identifying IF schould is a MALICIOUSLY MALIGNANT MEMBER OF THE MALEVOLENT MAFIA - but there is also a good reason to be QUIZZICAL of its truth. I do not agree that TONE is a good method of reading him eithre so I do not agree with MariaF's vote so ya! (*^▽^*)

Thank you for this breakdown! I don't follow your analysis of his read on you - after 135 it didn't look like you would have expected a free townread from scumschadd. But I agree with the first and last points of both your lists.

On your question of why people weren't voting him - I was tempted but wanted to stick with ceejay a bit longer until he returned and to see what happened. And right now RC wants to vote RightKnight more than I want to vote schadd.

Summers over

on behalf of the southern hemisphere you're wrong and the weather's been improving every day


I like Messiah for town personally, probably going to hold that for a while.


-Key

Castle thinks you rolled scum here RC. Is he right?

If I can’t figure out a better vote, yours looks fine to me.

I guess hiding behind keychain was really just a ruse all along? Was it?

[RightKnight]

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

Because I can and he’s not getting away with hising behind his hydra partner.

~ CM.

[RightKnight]

hey keychain can we vote scumknight

What exactly was the point of this? You couldn’t ask her this in a PT?

[RightKnight]

I do not desire to vote for RightKnight since if Raybells is BIASED on his read then I do not want to instigate a fight by FANNING the wagon’s flames. If my reasoning about Checkmate townposting is WRONG (which it could be IF Checkmate is nancy), then I am confident Raybells can explain how Castle is SCUMPOSTING! ^_^

This was supposed to be a secret hydra so I get better at different things and I have work holiday stuff.

However that doesn’t look to be the chance with how many people are theorizing who I am.

I, Castle am MathBlade.

I suspect the RC/Key hydra of being scum. However I do not have the time nor energy to demonstrate such and any time I do RC turns toxic. Hell RC turns toxic based on strategy sometimes. I just kinda don’t want that.

I am about to go to urgent care. I am sorry for my inactivity to this game.

In regards to 396 I can’t speak to Checkmate’s thoughts. For myself I generally like having class info or flavor info on hand so that way if someone claims something like I am a fighter without magic. Then says they cast fireball I would go, really? We didn’t talk about each post ceejay

~~Math

[RightKnight]

with all the hydras he meant that the hydras contribute to the chaos

definitely math or nancy in this hydra

nancy or Nancy Drew...?

Nancy drew, is there another nancy?

There is. Whether this statement is true or false or a false dilemma I leave to Checkmate out of respect for them.

~~Castle (Math)

[RightKnight]

I do not desire to vote for RightKnight since if Raybells is BIASED on his read then I do not want to instigate a fight by FANNING the wagon’s flames. If my reasoning about Checkmate townposting is WRONG (which it could be IF Checkmate is nancy), then I am confident Raybells can explain how Castle is SCUMPOSTING! ^_^

To be fair, I myself can be biased I just don’t think I am here.

His pushes if you want to call them that are similar to Lynch all Werewolves.

Weak sauce then eventually RC fake claims something to support his argument or just starts screaming.
As town he sometimes pretends to have substance

Key is similar to mod is Mafia too wishy washy.

Yes that is a two second argument but that is all I have time for.

~~Castle (Math)

[RightKnight]

You know full well how I feel about playing mafia with you so don't sneak into a game with me on an anonymous alt where I can't WOTC you and then start bitching that I'm toxic.
The idea of me 'hiding behind' Keychain as scum is stupid and not something that you would ever say as an actual read on me: it's something you'd say because it sounds good.
I also happen to have a very good read on your hydra partner, and surprise surprise, I

also

think she's scum.

I've stopped short of declaring open war on your slot because Keychain doesn't like it but realize that the only reason you might survive today is her.

I actually didn’t sneak. We were preinned before you signed up.

I just didn’t feel like being an ass and outing myself and woto’ing you and was hoping not to be outed so we could play a game in peace.

As a secret hydra I can’t very well have woto’s without not being a secret hydra.

And I simply do not have time for this. I think you’re scum.
~~Math

[RightKnight]

Also, you were calling us town for

literally no reason

at the start of the game then when you realized we were onto you, you 180ed that read and started calling us scum.

You know my scum meta and this is full of shit.

I plan everything as scum. If you ever think I am scum I am town. Period.

If you push me that results in your death. So rethink this and play nice.

~~Math

[RightKnight]

VC 1.2

RightKnight

(3): Tatl and Tael 405, schadd_ 483, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis 487

Lovebird

(3): ceejayvinoya 96, Wisdom 278, MariaR 491

Tatl and Tael

(2): RightKnight 407, Dunnstral 501

ceejayvinoya

(1): Lovebird 355

Wisdom

(1): Messiah Complex 115

Not Voting

(3): EzekelRAGE, Kokichi Oma, Eragon 258,

With 13 alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.
D1 will end on Saturday October 20th at 1pm or in (expired on 2018-10-20 13:00:00)

Mod Notes:

EzekelRAGE has not posted and is being replaced.
Please aim to stay within your hydrae, as well as voting the hydrae not the heads for clarity's sake.
Thanks!

The lovebird wagon looks really pure lots of my townreads on it. If we aren’t lynching the cowbells hydra then lovebird’s a pretty good lynch to get a barometer up on the situation. And if something important was directed to me I missed it. Been in and out of docs office all day. Wisdoms the only one I am not as sure of being town because his scum game is good.

Mainly I can’t read lovebird for anything every time I play with lovebird they seem scummy and so I am trying to acknowledge that bias. What exactly is the game for lovebird scum?

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Ya, I think scum are voting me too. Everyone just pointing at things and saying they don't make sense or that I don't explain enough, but nobody actually says why I'm doing this as scum.

Why me = fry me
Which players voting you are scum and why?

If you expect people to provide why they think you’re scum you should be doing the same.

I don’t see that.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

This is a weird leap to make imo. I looked at Maria's iso and she had like 6 posts after the one you called scummy. Nothing blew me away in any of them, and then she votes you. You then say you no longer sr her. Why? It's hard to follow anything you're saying because it just looks like your reads are a pendulum swinging back and forth with nothing to back them.

Omfg, read closer. I already said I didn't scumread her yesterday. Voting me had nothing to do with it. You say I don't explain enough and then you can't even read my posts!

If you don’t scumread her then as indicated here, but do scumread her now, what specifically during that time changed your mind?

If you don’t scumread her now which of Ceejay/Wisdom do you think are scum and why?

[RightKnight]

Wtf? How is that "why me"? And, I already said who voting me I think is scum.

Ya, I think scum are voting me too. Everyone just pointing at things and saying they don't make sense or that I don't explain enough, but nobody actually says

why I'm doing this as scum

.

Why me = fry me
Which players voting you are scum and why?

If you expect people to provide why they think you’re scum you should be doing the same.

I don’t see that.

~~Castle

@Lovebird emphasis here. You said people aren’t explaining why you’re scum. You said that people aren’t explaining why you’d do certain things as scum. That’s not the standard of proof necessary. The standard of proof is whether someone believes you are scum and why they believe you are. They don’t have to go through all the minutia of every post you write. They provide a case and then defenses if needed occur. If there is no case and it’s just shade or name calling (eg obvScum) then there is no reason to ask why. I think you’re trying to move the goal posts.

[RightKnight]

If you don’t scumread her then as indicated here, but do scumread her now

Try again

You specifically said read closer.

I read that post closely.

Right now your vote is on ceejay. You aren’t explaining why you think ceejay’s scum. You just have a general broadness if scum are voting you. I want to know your opinions on things

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Ceejay's posts are bad. Empty. Pointless talking, doesn't go anywhere. I feel like voting him.

It seems like ceejay’s posting started a wagon on you so it is going somewhere.

Which of ceejay’s posts are bad? Find the “worst” or a really bad one and say why. It looks like you’re omgusing ceejay.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Lovebird you gotta realize when someone is straight scum pushing you.

Number 1) I am not scum. Since that is all you have said in regards to me that’s all that merits a response.

2) Assume I am scum then me asking lovebird for their opinions only strengthens town because if lovebird is town then it gets them talking and if they are scum then it’s wifom for us to analyze later.

Why are you so against me getting lovebird to share their opinion?

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

It seems like ceejay’s posting started a wagon on you so it is going somewhere.

Did it?

Their vote seems first in the votecounter?

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

For the purpose of the record, in my only game with Lovebird she was the D1 mislynch that I hard-drove since because she gave bad reasoning to scumread someone whom I was hard townreading... So IF her laconic THOUGHT PROCESS is your only reason to scumread her you should probably nuance your prospective or reevaulate first since because we were able to manipulate JUST that to easily lynch her.

I'll consider this

scummy post

I don’t see what’s scummy about it?

Please expand on that.

~~Castle

And why are you answering for lovebird? I want to read lovebird so I want lovebird to answer.

[RightKnight]

Their vote seems first in the votecounter?

That's not the same thing.

Pretty sure it is by definition.

If a person is first in a conga line by definition they start it.

There is a wagon on you. By definition ceejay started it.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Because letting you as scum push on Lovebird makes it easy for you to get Lovebird lynched and is bad for town

Again. This doesn’t merit a response. You are assuming incorrectly I am scum.

Secondly as scum I don’t push things I let town mislynch themselves. It’s my mantra and you know it.

So further accusations without reasons I am just going to ignore. I am going to hunt and quite frankly you saying I can’t ask questions of anyone is bullshit. I am asking Lovebird for her in-depth reasoning. She should communicate that to the best of her ability.

[RightKnight]

It doesn't take a lot of thinking to see that saying that someone's posting "started a wagon on someone" and that person's vote happening to be first aren't the same thing

Uhmmm they necessarily by literal definition are a starter of the wagon.

There’s at most three starters to a wagon:
1) The first voter
2) The first person to suggest they might be scum
3) The first person to be vocal about said person may be scum

Sometimes these are three different people. Sometimes they are the same.

The point is ceejay did indeed start the wagon. And you are dodging my question: Which if ceejay’s posts are bad to you and why? Quote some. I’ll wait.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Because letting you as scum push on Lovebird makes it easy for you to get Lovebird lynched and is bad for town

Prob lynching this if lovebird flips V and having it as lock town if lovebird flips W

That’s interesting. I wouldn’t do this. Why do you say this?

I would have them lock scum because apparently I can’t ask questions.

Oh no I must be pushing Maria R’s mislynch now /sarcasm

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

For the purpose of the record, in my only game with Lovebird she was the D1 mislynch that I hard-drove since because she gave bad reasoning to scumread someone whom I was hard townreading... So IF her laconic THOUGHT PROCESS is your only reason to scumread her you should probably nuance your prospective or reevaulate first since because we were able to manipulate JUST that to easily lynch her.

I'll consider this

scummy post

Okay that’s half of my question answered

Now why is that scummy to you? I don’t see how it is scummy.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Do you think I'm scum?

The more you refuse to state why you hold any opinion the more likely it is you are scum. I am asking a simple question:

Why is that post from ceejay scummy? You said it is. Back it up.

This shouldn’t be pulling teeth.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

The more you refuse to state why you hold any opinion the more likely it is you are scum. I am asking a simple question:

Does explaining more suddenly make me less likely to be scum?

Why is that post from ceejay scummy? You said it is. Back it up.

Gut.

It would have before you asked that. In general town talks things out. You’re adamantly resisting doing so. Things like gut aren’t why.

~~Castle

((Consider our hydra voting lovebird just wanna clear it with the partner))

[RightKnight]

Town Mathblade is stubborn as sin. Town mathblade comes in and has a gigantic fight with me because he has to prove that I'm scum because that's how he reacts to situations like this.
He's backing off and pushing an easy mislynch because he's scum and that's the safer play for him as scum. Take an easy mislynch, nightkill me, have his buddies refuse to vote him tomorrow.
This course of action, to immediately derail and start pushing someone else is not a part of Mathblade's playbook and he's going to insist he's gotten better about that but he objectively hasn't.
Math would be screaming and yelling that I'm scum and the problem and that everyone needs to immediately lynch me because he has an 100% read here.

For the record I told keychain before Maria's last post that if she didn't either call me scum or start attacking my ability she was 100% scum and it started so maybe she's town.

1) I am working with a hydra partner. That explicitly means I talk with them. I show them why I think what I do and we discuss things and we do things that we both agree on.

2) I can be just as stubborn as scum.

3) I have many games where I am NOT stubborn as town and have been working on fixing that flaw.

4) Again you are assuming that I am backing off you because you think I am playing strategically, I promised Checkmate I would give the benefit of the doubt and they would me. We talk about things whenever I am not on a sickness stay away from mafia moment.

5) On a new site I am actually good and have a 75/100% (its complicated) winrate as town. I admit I am human and I do have games where I fuck up.

Quite literally everything you have described is all in my last town game here. Talk about this game. If you think I am scum what is scummy here? I don’t think you can answer that question, instead you’re trying to lynch me because oh no Math can be a good scum player.

Well I can be a decent town player given the chance. Keep it in game.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Town Mathblade is stubborn as sin. Town mathblade comes in and has a gigantic fight with me because he has to prove that I'm scum because that's how he reacts to situations like this.
He's backing off and pushing an easy mislynch because he's scum and that's the safer play for him as scum. Take an easy mislynch, nightkill me, have his buddies refuse to vote him tomorrow.
This course of action, to immediately derail and start pushing someone else is not a part of Mathblade's playbook and he's going to insist he's gotten better about that but he objectively hasn't.
Math would be screaming and yelling that I'm scum and the problem and that everyone needs to immediately lynch me because he has an 100% read here.

For the record I told keychain before Maria's last post that if she didn't either call me scum or start attacking my ability she was 100% scum and it started so maybe she's town.

And I am a He dude. Not she stop it.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

1) I am working with a hydra partner. That explicitly means I talk with them. I show them why I think what I do and we discuss things and we do things that we both agree on.

2) I can be just as stubborn as scum.

3) I have many games where I am NOT stubborn as town and have been working on fixing that flaw.

4) Again you are assuming that I am backing off you because you think I am playing strategically, I promised Checkmate I would give the benefit of the doubt and they would me. We talk about things whenever I am not on a sickness stay away from mafia moment.

5) On a new site I am actually good and have a 75/100% (its complicated) winrate as town. I admit I am human and I do have games where I fuck up.

Quite literally everything you have described is all in my last town game here. Talk about this game. If you think I am scum what is scummy here? I don’t think you can answer that question, instead you’re trying to lynch me because oh no Math can be a good scum player.

Well I can be a decent town player given the chance. Keep it in game.

~~Castle

You're the one who keeps dragging it out of game Mathblade!
I've just said that you're scum, described the way that you play the game as town, explained how that's clearly not your approach in this game, and told everyone to lynch you.
Me lynching you when you roll scum isn't a personal attack, it's me attempting to play to my win condition. Stop repeatedly making comments along the lines of keep it in game when I have done absolutely nothing to make this an out of game battle besides to point out that I didn't know you would be in this game.

I didn’t say it was a personal attack.

What I did say is that all these references are outside the context of this thread of which you still haven’t done anything specific to this game. You’ve made meta points.

Which those things I have done as scum.

I have also done them as town. Your points are just meta. There’s nothing that is in this game to discuss.

I have a scum game and a town one. I know the number of people who can actually read me on one hand. You sir are not one of them.

~~Castle

I am stepping away from here. Take it as you will but I still do think you are scum. I want to sort a Lovebird and Maria. Far as I am concerned I have stated my opinion on you. I don’t want this to turn into RC v Math as there are a ton of other players.

Mainly Lovebird + Dunnstral that I want to sort out their interactions and why Dunnstral garcia’d there. Leads me to think there may be something fishy. I have scum games this is true. Unless you make it relevant to here and something that is not in my town game you’re literally just complimenting my scum game and saying lynch me for it. Which is again an argument to ignore.

[RightKnight]

You even implicitly acknowledged that I know how to read you when you said that you were trying to fool other people not me when I kept saying you were obvscum last game
so then you come into this game and be like oh RC doesn't know how to read me but he's also scum but i'm also going to randomly vote the biggest wagon for reasons

Last game I was scum with you.

I am still salty about it but I lied to make you look good last game. You quite frankly cannot read me.

There a lot of things about last game I don’t talk about because it’s not gentlemanly.

I am stepping away if you want to make a case for me being scum go right ahead. Until you make a post worth responding to I am ignoring you.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

~Noted~

So those actually did something?

Are you doubting my voodoo? Do you want to be voodoo'd?

Is being voodoo'd a good thing or a bad thing

I quoted a post from DnD Wiki I think. It doesn’t look like a good thing to happen to you, from what I read.

~ Checkmate

[RightKnight]

https://dnd-wiki.org/wiki/Voodoo_Doll_(3.5e_Spell)

Voodoo Doll
Necromancy [Evil]
Level: Assassin 2, Cleric 2, Sorcerer/Wizard 2
Components: V, S, F
Casting time: 1 standard action
Range: Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
Target: One corporeal living creature
Duration: Concentration, up to 1 minute/level (D)
Saving Throw: Will negates and Fortitude partial; See text
Spell Resistance: Yes
Cross the heart, hope they die, stick a needle in their eye.

If a target fails the save against this spell, the doll you hold in your hand takes on an appearance like them. You may proceed to push pin needles into the doll, subsequently injuring the actual creature. When the creature fails the save you can immediately push a pin in, and another each round as a standard action. Pins deal 1d6 points of damage per 2 caster levels (maximum 10d6 at 20th), and have an additional effect depending where you stab the target. The creature needs to possess the appropriate body part.

Arm: The target takes a -4 penalty to attack rolls.
Body: The target takes a -4 penalty to AC.
Face: The target takes a 20% miss chance as its partly blinded.
Leg: The target's non-fly speeds are halved.
Tail: The target takes a -10 penalty to Balance and Jump checks.
Throat: The target takes a 20% chance to be unable to speak, acting as spell failure for vocal component spells.
Wing: The target's fly speeds are halved.

Yeah that’s the one. I was trying to figure out what subclass voodoo fell into.

[RightKnight]

after 135 it didn't look like you would have expected a free townread from scumschadd.

It would depend on HOW he decided to interact with me! I think schadd as SCUM whom decided to townread me would just call me town and call it a day. BUT that is just a guess...

Also acutely accusing Raybells of accusing THROUGH Keychain is kindof disingenuous Checkmate, since because Keychain’s TONE and OPINIONS are clearly coming through in their posts. JUST because she agreed with giving Raybells her VOTE doth not coincide with her losing control over the hydra...

VOTE: Lovebird

So basically I’m townread Schadd againa and I liked Ceejay’s last posts so I could go here! Lovebird you should ANSWER my question about Formerfish when you acquire the capability!

Nah it wasn’t. I was annoyed that RC made that hey you want to vote our slot post and I wanted to put RC on notice that I won’t tolerate his shenanigans. I turned a blind eye to him hiding behind his partner, until he decided to pull this on us.

[RightKnight]

You know full well how I feel about playing mafia with you so don't sneak into a game with me on an anonymous alt where I can't WOTC you and then start bitching that I'm toxic.
The idea of me 'hiding behind' Keychain as scum is stupid and not something that you would ever say as an actual read on me: it's something you'd say because it sounds good.
I also happen to have a very good read on your hydra partner, and surprise surprise, I

also

think she's scum.

I've stopped short of declaring open war on your slot because Keychain doesn't like it but realize that the only reason you might survive today is her.

Also, you were calling us town for

literally no reason

at the start of the game then when you realized we were onto you, you 180ed that read and started calling us scum.

Both of these are on me RC, not Castle/Math. I initially sr Schaad and told Math, I felt good about my vote since you nailed scum D1 in Sneks and you were also on that wagon. I mistakenly interpreted his approval with tr you. Sorry.

[RightKnight]

I plan everything as scum. If you ever think I am scum I am town. Period.

And sure, hows this for a plan? "IF we call RC/Key town they'll townread us back. Oh wait, that didn't work. Let's call them scum and try to scare them off wagoning us."

I can’t speak for Math but I specifically voted YOU not your hydra, to let you know how I felt about your sneaky baiting post to Keychain and then she conveniently followed that us by what looked to me, like a naked vote on us. I didn’t appreciate that tactic and wanted you to know that.

[RightKnight]

If you're somehow town in spite of your godawful play this game, put Nancy on the phone. I don't want to talk to you because it's bad for me and the game.

Alright RC, yes it’s me Nancy and now I can’t sign my posts with Checkmate anymore which was like the coolest thing ever. I may never forgive you for that.

You know I’m personally rather fond of you, so if I tear into you here, it’s 100% game-related, right?

~ Nancy or the player formally known as Checkmate (until all my fun got ruined. )

[RightKnight]

1) town mathblade never comes out with a townread on me in the early game, and if they really believe that I always misread them (which is demonstrably untrue), they don't 180 because I scumread them.
2) amusingly enough I was moreso scumreading the hydra because of the other head's posts until Mathblade came in here and just hard spewed the slot scum on the last page.

I tr you, not Math and now that you know who I am, you should know that I’m town here.

[RightKnight]

Yes there is just “nancy” whom I can see hydraing with Mathblade

deadline delivery

???

I hardclaim that is not me.

[RightKnight]

Hey, you know how you can resolve this? you can lynch the scum hydra.

I have never seen more than 10 posts from nancy drew and not known her alignment correctly. she's scum this game.

I don’t know who the fuck this is but sorry Math, this is 100% scum here.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Music and Mail

RC vote was meant to be a protest vote, that’s why I voted him and not the hydra. I will review your LB case but I’d bet money, this flips red.

This type of post, almost never comes from town. It is likely scum who is aftaid I will eventually figure them oit. Who are you? Because it’s blatantly obvious you are threatened by me. I demand you out yourself ASAP!

Rn, I wish I was the one with voodoo powers.

[RightKnight]

I think the tone is way off for Nancy Drew as is the playstyle which is why I'm assuming that she's 100% scum if she is in fact Nancy Drew. But I'm scumreading them either way.

Can we please powerlynch this? Actually, after my flip, that will definitely happen anyway. Hopefully town isn’t that stupid to fall for this though.

While RC actually seemed to be making some effort to sort me, this scultroll hydra hasn’t read even 10 posts from me but proclaims themelves to be some kind of fucking expert on me. Really?

I mean, let’s call a spade a spade here. Whomever is behind this facade is blatantly open wolfing here and acks the guts to do it under their real nic.

The only player whomever claims to lock alignmentread me accurately is Ank and if she were in this game. we know she would have already locktowned me.

[RightKnight]

VOTE: rightknight ?

Schaad, if you are town here, can you not recognize an open scumclaim when you see it? No way in hell is M&Ms town in this game. No freaking way.

What town player claims to meta alignment lock a player, based on

less than 10 fucking posts

??? and under a secret hydra no less? In what world can this ever come from town?

[RightKnight]

I suggest you out, checkmate
given math outed speculating about you is only going to harm your slot and the game

Now I need scumtroll M&Ms hydra to do likewise.

[RightKnight]

I have never seen more than 10 posts from nancy drew and not known her alignment correctly. she's scum this game.

I think the tone is way off for Nancy Drew as is the playstyle which is why I'm assuming that she's 100% scum if she is in fact Nancy Drew. But I'm scumreading them either way.

Whoops

I really gotta, like, not play multiple hydra games at once lol

Dafuq????

Did you roll scum here RC? Is this you open wolfing here? I honestly don’t know what to think rn.

[RightKnight]

I do not desire to vote for RightKnight since if Raybells is BIASED on his read then I do not want to instigate a fight by FANNING the wagon’s flames. If my reasoning about Checkmate townposting is WRONG (which it could be IF Checkmate is nancy), then I am confident Raybells can explain how Castle is SCUMPOSTING! ^_^

This was supposed to be a secret hydra so I get better at different things and I have work holiday stuff.

However that doesn’t look to be the chance with how many people are theorizing who I am.

I, Castle am MathBlade.

I suspect the RC/Key hydra of being scum. However I do not have the time nor energy to demonstrate such and any time I do RC turns toxic. Hell RC turns toxic based on strategy sometimes. I just kinda don’t want that.

I am about to go to urgent care. I am sorry for my inactivity to this game.

In regards to 396 I can’t speak to Checkmate’s thoughts. For myself I generally like having class info or flavor info on hand so that way if someone claims something like I am a fighter without magic. Then says they cast fireball I would go, really? We didn’t talk about each post ceejay

~~Math

Well if you didn't post it I'm not asking you. Let your partner answer sheeeesh.

Of course he would post that and just go away. Sigh.

What a terrific answer.

Math is extremely respectful that way. <3<3 <3

[RightKnight]

ITT: scum rightknight realizes that they're not mislynching us so they try to score the easy mislynch on Lovebird first.

and, like, her being town wouldn't necessarily mean that town have to be on the wagon. towns are bad.

Lovebird is my 1 and only townread this game

, pretty typical that they're getting wagoned.

This is not good. This is typical of the sort of post that scum would make. Town=2 + toNreads, scum=only 1 and blatant scul, if their ONLY tr is is a player whose not obvtown to the majority of the playerlist.

This either means that LB is w/w with T&T or it’s w/v because T&T already knows what alignment LB is.



Both RC slot obvtown reading LB and scumlocking our slot, makes me think this could well be scum!RC here.

[RightKnight]

Wtf? How is that "why me"? And, I already said who voting me I think is scum.

Aren’t you even a little bit suspicious that you are T&T’s 1 and only townread in this game? Aren’t you at all concerned about possibly being pocketed by them?

[RightKnight]

Lovebird you gotta realize when someone is straight scum pushing you.

Pot.meet.kettle.



VOTE: Tati and Tael

[RightKnight]

Lovebird you gotta realize when someone is straight scum pushing you.

Number 1) I am not scum. Since that is all you have said in regards to me that’s all that merits a response.

2) Assume I am scum then me asking lovebird for their opinions only strengthens town because if lovebird is town then it gets them talking and if they are scum then it’s wifom for us to analyze later.

Why are you so against me getting lovebird to share their opinion?

~~Castle

My guess is that they are either w/w or w/v whom T&T want to keep around as a potential mislynch.

~ Nancy

[RightKnight]

Because letting you as scum push on Lovebird makes it easy for you to get Lovebird lynched and is bad for town

So is fucking pushing us but your strangely okay with this, why?

Seriously, convince me your town here, I don’t want to mislynch.

[RightKnight]

Because letting you as scum push on Lovebird makes it easy for you to get Lovebird lynched and is bad for town

Prob lynching this if lovebird flips V and having it as lock town if lovebird flips W

I’m legit confused by this?

[RightKnight]

I mean, you -can- ask questions of people, you just won't last long doing it.

Prob lynching this if lovebird flips V and having it as lock town if lovebird flips W

I'd rather you didn't try to pick a fight with me.

But it’s perfectly fine for you to do that with us?

[RightKnight]

Because letting you as scum push on Lovebird makes it easy for you to get Lovebird lynched and is bad for town

Prob lynching this if lovebird flips V and having it as lock town if lovebird flips W

That’s interesting. I wouldn’t do this. Why do you say this?

I would have them lock scum because apparently I can’t ask questions.

Oh no I must be pushing Maria R’s mislynch now /sarcasm

~~Castle

If RC really is town here, I’m going to be legit disappointed. He was GOAT in MU Throne of Lies. :/

[RightKnight]

Do you think I'm scum?

If you’re not even the slightest bit suspicious about your being T&T’s one and only townread, possibly.

[RightKnight]

The more you refuse to state why you hold any opinion the more likely it is you are scum. I am asking a simple question:

Does explaining more suddenly make me less likely to be scum?

Why is that post from ceejay scummy? You said it is. Back it up.

Gut.

Seriously LB, if you’re honestly town here - it’s really in your best interest to at least try to answer this.

~N

[RightKnight]

The more you refuse to state why you hold any opinion the more likely it is you are scum. I am asking a simple question:

Does explaining more suddenly make me less likely to be scum?

Why is that post from ceejay scummy? You said it is. Back it up.

Gut.

It would have before you asked that. In general town talks things out. You’re adamantly resisting doing so. Things like gut aren’t why.

~~Castle

((Consider our hydra voting lovebird just wanna clear it with the partner))

I think RC is blatant scum here but I don’t like LB not answering our questions but do you think Maria might be right here? I think we need to consider that.

I want to stay on T&T until Maria clarifies her reading their slots as being different alignments but by EOD, no satisfactory answers, I’m not opposed to sheeping 2 of my strongest townreads in this game.

~ N

[RightKnight]

Town Mathblade is stubborn as sin. Town mathblade comes in and has a gigantic fight with me because he has to prove that I'm scum because that's how he reacts to situations like this.
He's backing off and pushing an easy mislynch because he's scum and that's the safer play for him as scum. Take an easy mislynch, nightkill me, have his buddies refuse to vote him tomorrow.
This course of action, to immediately derail and start pushing someone else is not a part of Mathblade's playbook and he's going to insist he's gotten better about that but he objectively hasn't.
Math would be screaming and yelling that I'm scum and the problem and that everyone needs to immediately lynch me because he has an 100% read here.

For the record I told keychain before Maria's last post that if she didn't either call me scum or start attacking my ability she was 100% scum and it started so maybe she's town.

I think you’re almost certainly lockscum here. Happy?

~

Checkmate

Nancy

[RightKnight]

1) I am working with a hydra partner. That explicitly means I talk with them. I show them why I think what I do and we discuss things and we do things that we both agree on.

2) I can be just as stubborn as scum.

3) I have many games where I am NOT stubborn as town and have been working on fixing that flaw.

4) Again you are assuming that I am backing off you because you think I am playing strategically, I promised Checkmate I would give the benefit of the doubt and they would me. We talk about things whenever I am not on a sickness stay away from mafia moment.

5) On a new site I am actually good and have a 75/100% (its complicated) winrate as town. I admit I am human and I do have games where I fuck up.

Quite literally everything you have described is all in my last town game here. Talk about this game. If you think I am scum what is scummy here? I don’t think you can answer that question, instead you’re trying to lynch me because oh no Math can be a good scum player.

Well I can be a decent town player given the chance. Keep it in game.

~~Castle

You're the one who keeps dragging it out of game Mathblade!
I've just said that you're scum, described the way that you play the game as town, explained how that's clearly not your approach in this game, and told everyone to lynch you.
Me lynching you when you roll scum isn't a personal attack, it's me attempting to play to my win condition. Stop repeatedly making comments along the lines of keep it in game when I have done absolutely nothing to make this an out of game battle besides to point out that I didn't know you would be in this game.

We are not scum here and your complete lack of interest in sorting us, lock confirms that. I would seriously hope that you’re not the kind of player that would try to mislynch us based on personal animosity with Math? I definitely hope you’re better than that.

Don’t let me down.

~ Nancy

[RightKnight]

You even implicitly acknowledged that I know how to read you when you said that you were trying to fool other people not me when I kept saying you were obvscum last game
so then you come into this game and be like oh RC doesn't know how to read me but he's also scum but i'm also going to randomly vote the biggest wagon for reasons

The obvious point being RC, is that now that you know who Math really is and even more fucking important - who I am, for you to metalock me as scum, is disingenuous and agenday on your part.

I don’t buy for one goddamned second town!RC meatalock scumreads either of us here.

[RightKnight]

I already have made my case: that you make this play as scum but not as town.
The fact that you don't like the way I describe your town game is the single biggest flaw of your scum game, that you aren't self aware enough regarding your town game to understand how you actually come across and you play scum as an 'idealized' version of your town game where you play like you want to think you are as opposed to the way that you actually are.

The fact that you don't like my meta doesn't mean that it's not true or that you're not scum.

God, once again, fucking town.meets.fucking.kettle! You’re either scum here RC or your townplay has taken astronomical nosedive.

~N

[RightKnight]

Do you think I'm scum?

The more you refuse to state why you hold any opinion the more likely it is you are scum. I am asking a simple question:

Why is that post from ceejay scummy? You said it is. Back it up.

This shouldn’t be pulling teeth.

~~Castle

Are you talking to me or lovebird..?

I’m pretty sure he meant LB.

[RightKnight]

large picture warning

Spoiler:

???

[RightKnight]

Honestly it can be both? If lovebird is ML often I can understand it we still got a lot of time in the day so I'll let them progress

understandable.

and is Rightknight vs Tatl/tael TvT, TvS, or honestly unsure?

RC is either scum here or he is allowing his personal vendetta against Math, to adversely cloud his judgement. LB being his only tr, makes me lean the latter.

[RightKnight]

Honestly it can be both? If lovebird is ML often I can understand it we still got a lot of time in the day so I'll let them progress

understandable.

and is Rightknight vs Tatl/tael TvT, TvS, or honestly unsure?

With the way their egos are clashing? Coin flip they have history and seeing this clash doesn't shock me. If they start clogging the thread we can stop em but I don't really think they're being AI atm with the arguments being presented

It was 100% Math’s idea to be anonymous and RC was the obvious reason why.

[RightKnight]

Wisdom's play has been rather suspect he has history knowing lovebird is a ML now that I think about it with that cheet gameplay. Him also calling me obv town without question also makes me pause. Let's start something
VOTE: Wisdom

I think Wisdom is town here because of his Kokichi Saske!town post.

Unless you think Wisdom and Saske are w/w together, I think that kind of post comes from town!Wisdom. I could obviously be wrong because he early tr Ank in Hourglass but I really don’t think so.

I do know that town!Wisdom has read me correctly every game, save Necromancer, which obviously doesn’t count since he had no meta knowledge of me in that game.

[RightKnight]

I have a sudden burst of energy and I don't really know why. I won't question it though.
Also @RC am I not allowed to comment on you what so ever or something? That was the first comment I made at you and you were like "you wanna fight?" While yes the comment was in a bad light I don't want to fight you so I don't really know what you're expecting of me. You later say if I didn't comment on you I was scum. So if you expect !town me to comment on you...why that reaction?

I think RC being ridiculously defensive is NAI.

[RightKnight]

Well it was a pretty bad comment where you basically said that if my read on someone was right I was scum and if it was wrong I was locktown because my reads are bad or something? So I expected you to say something dumb that upsets me but it doesn't mean that I am happy about you saying something scum that upsets me.

There's plenty you can talk with me about that isn't literally just saying you're bad and if you're right its because you're informed scum.

Okay, but given that you scumread me literally all the time when I'm town and intellectually you can agree that your reasoning is bad, can you let go of it?

[RightKnight]

yes it’s me Nancy

damn im so good at figuring alts out

It’s not like I was actually trying to alter my posting style, which I actually did in anonymous MU Ditto game.

[RightKnight]

and now im officially against wagoning this hydra
Like i said, give nancy enough time and she will obvtown

Doubling down on Wisdom tr

Do you think RC is scum here or can he seriously be this clueless?

[RightKnight]

nancy im not very interested in reading rc right now

Lets focus on lovebird first

I’m not opposed because I didn’t like his responses to Math’s questions. I also want to know his response to mine. I want to hear why Maria is convinced that they have to be different alignments. Because LB being RC’s only tr makes me either think they’re w/w or v/w. So, our slot voting LB is dependent on sorting RC.

[RightKnight]

okay okay stop
I'm not scum, I'm willing to believe you're not scum
lovebird isn't scum either

VOTE: Messiah Complex

Why MC? And why are you so sure about LB being town?

[RightKnight]

if yall hadn't been anonymous or had wotced me out then I wouldn't have been stuck having to play with math.

Can’t you get beyond that though? He wanted us to be anonymous because of yours and his disagreement.

I still don’t understand how LB can be your only townread?

Honestly, that slot is null for me atm although Math thinks it’s scummy.

[RightKnight]

RC, I want to townread you. Convince me, please.

~Nancy

[RightKnight]

when a player blacklists you you just dont play with them
You dont make an anonymous alt and play with them anyway
ffs

We wanted to play this game. Why the hell shouldn’t we?

I try not allow personal issues to influence my game choices. I think that’s kind of immature in most cases. I did invoke WOTO in Hourglass on a player that never even signed up but I’m over that now. I’m not one to hold grudges and Math is a DnD expert, so I obviously wasn’t going to sign up with my main.

I also thought a secret hydra could be fun and I especially enjoyed signing my posts with ~ Checkmate.

Anyway, Math hasn’t done anything what I’ve seen so far to fuel this conflict and RC seems to have been pretty cool about it also. Maybe they’re not going to be exactly friends anytime soon but from what I’ve seen so far in this game, interactions have been relatively civil between them. so I think we made the right call here.

<3 Math

<3 RC

[RightKnight]

UNVOTE:

I suck so bad at getting sr on D1. *sigh*

[RightKnight]

respect other players' wishes
You cant force math and rc to play together if they dont want to
Some players just dont go together

That’s ridiculous. I have a right to play in this game. So does Math, so does RC. As I said their interactions here have been relatively cibil. I would be really upset if either one subbed out of this game because of that. I really think you’re making way too much of this Wisdom. I am not at liberty to elaborate on why but I’m sure RC understands what I mean.

[RightKnight]

whatever i dont care, but you better not hydra with a blacklistee of mine in a future game cuz you will be instantly blacklisted

I don’t even know who blacklists whom and I honestly DGAF. This is childish.

~ Nancy

[RightKnight]

Anyway RC, I apologize if I said anything to upset you. I think it’s pretty damn clear to everyone here that neither Math or you have any interest in fighting. I can tell you that Math made it 100% clear to me, he isn’t. Like you, he just wants to have a fun game.

[RightKnight]

and now im officially against wagoning this hydra
Like i said, give nancy enough time and she will obvtown

Doubling down on Wisdom tr

Lol. Didn't you just tell me not to get pocketed?

Good point.

Well, it actually hasn’t happened since he almost mislynched me in Necromancer, that he hasn’t townread me but I already was townleaning him but had he not correctly townread me, that would have been out the window, pretty much.

I have greater expectations of being read correctly by people familiar with my meta.

P.edit. Sorry mod.

[RightKnight]

I think Wisdom could be scum because he's not explaining any of his reads. What do you think of that?

you better not have killed saske
shes like the most obvtown so far

I suggest you out, checkmate
given math outed speculating about you is only going to harm your slot and the game

And then your read on shadd is bad because you assume what you dont understand comes from scum
What is the scum motivation for "kill me or leave me alone"?

and now im officially against wagoning this hydra
Like i said, give nancy enough time and she will obvtown

I don’t see that. While his most recent posts kind of pissed me off a bit, I see no reason so far, to think we aren’t seeing town!Wisdom here.

[RightKnight]

T-{Messiah, SIMYK)
NT-{MariaR, RightKnights, Tatl/Tael}
N-{Dunn, Ceejay, koki, ezekial}
NS-{Wisdom, schadd}
S-{lovebird)

Other than shadd thats almost identical to how im feeling

If it's other then schadd, then what are you even agreeing with except I'm scum? Two townreads?

Eragon, who the hell is ezekial???

[RightKnight]

Idk, there's not much explanation. Pretty scummy, right?

Are we reading the same posts?

[RightKnight]

A player that hasnt posted yet

@Mod, please prod Ezekial.

[RightKnight]

Maria answer this question with a yes or no. Nothing else. Answer with a quote.

Are you town?

oooh ooh can I has the question?

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Im still confused about why this is something you felt the need to insert yourself into. If Maria has such a problem with it she can engage Kok directly. This defense by proxy is weird.

ninja-

Kok, if maria says yes, or yeah will she die or be injured/nerfed?

Pretty sure Maria's town here, but I don't like this power fishing.

If Maria DOES end up nerfed for saying yes, that's when we look at Kok.

Not the other way around. We don't hunt townreads and ask them to out powers if any for scum.

Instead we make scumreads out powers so we can out them and force them to work in our parameters.

~~Castle

Pedit: If I get nerfed then I do. It's a game of finding scum not whose powers are shiniest.

Hell here you go

YES I AM TOWN.

I AM THE TOWNIEST TOWN TO EVER TOWN.

[RightKnight]

I mean, I guess I am hoping that he will just come back and say no, he would just be able to tell if shes lying.

I suppose maybe we wait for him to chime back in before we delve into pointless speculation based on nothing really.

Yup

~~Castle

VOTE: Lovebird

[RightKnight]

neither of our heads think that rightknight is town for anything that ND upon reflection. it is my view that we should power tunnel them because they're at worst a huge threat to the game, and are scum a massive amount of the time.
Keychain is opposed to me tunneling anyone because she feels like it's going to kill town engagement with the game. I think that avoiding town being engaged in shitlynching town is a good thing but I'm not in the mood for it.
I think that you guys all need to get the thirst for lynchbait out of your system so after we mislynch LB for absolutely no reason at all I'm going to come in tomorrow and we'll kill rightknight.

how does that sound?

1) Sounds like it will never happen as lovebird will flip scum more than likely.
2) Mislynching me and then if you're town your mislynch after is also shitty. It's why mainly I don't think you're town. Your reads are shit the only townread you had for the longest time was lovebird you don't have any sort of arguments 90% of your posts are RNG
And quite literally I don't give a fuck what you say until you actually try. Not like scream a hissy fit until you get your way try but actually cooperate with people and talk with them.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Math remember that you only survive today because I let you survive today.

uh huh

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

i'm not even that sure rightknight is scum i just really want them dead :shrug:

How the fuck are you not scum here again?

[RightKnight]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Tati and Teal

~Nancy

[RightKnight]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Tati and Teal

~Nancy

VOTE: Tati and Tael

Can’t I just vote lying RC hydra?

[RightKnight]

okay okay stop
I'm not scum,

I'm willing to believe you're not scum

lovebird isn't scum either

VOTE: Messiah Complex

Yeah, this slot is 100% locktown.

[RightKnight]

can you just stay on lovebird?

T&T is fucking open wolfing. I don’t know wtf they’re trying to prove but saying they want me dead and saying they’re not even sr me, is a blatant scumclaim.

I feel a lot more confident that this is flipping red than LB but I’m not opposed. I just don’t want open wolfing scum to be allowed to coast.

[RightKnight]

no its just rc being rc
can you just ignore him for now?

Okay, he’s just trying to bait our slot to get off LB.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Lovebird

[RightKnight]

Anyway RC, I apologize if I said anything to upset you. I think it’s pretty damn clear to everyone here that neither Math or you have any interest in fighting. I can tell you that Math made it 100% clear to me, he isn’t. Like you, he just wants to have a fun game.

@Mod, can you delete this post? You will be my favourite mod ever.

[RightKnight]

Anyway RC, I apologize if I said anything to upset you.

I think it’s pretty damn clear to everyone here that neither Math or you have any interest in fighting. I can tell you that Math made it 100% clear to me, he isn’t. Like you, he just wants to have a fun game.

@Mod, can you delete this post? You will be my favourite mod ever.

Actually, please only remove the bolded. Kthanx

~ Checkmate

(If Math is still going to sign Castle, then why not? )

[RightKnight]

no its just rc being rc
can you just ignore him for now?

So this seems like a majority of the “content”.

~~Castle

@Wisdom I am thinking RC/Key Schadd and Lovebird.

Thoughts? Where do you agree? Where do you disagree?

[RightKnight]

I dunno you're acting like I'm saying 'lynch this person because I'm RC and I'm the cutest person in the game' but that's not really what's been happening.

It’s really how you’re coming off.

~~Castle

If you think we’re scum or anyone else is come at it with an explanation. What you’re doing isn’t convincing or helping.

[RightKnight]

I think that {Saske/MC} has really high odds of being two scum. I don't understand the townreads SIMYK has: are you just locking her town for postcount because that's the only thing I can see.
I can't 100% say that Lovebird is town because I don't have a strong grasp of what her scum game looks like but I can say pretty confidently that no one can say that she's scum for what she's done this game. And given the contents of the wagon (sidenote: I'm not actually that sure Wis is scum, though I do think he's below null) if she's scum I'm pretty sure she's being bussed which also makes me less enthusiastic about voting there because it's no good to vote scum and in the process gives scum immunity the rest of the game.

Then why are you so quick to dismiss those with knowledge of lovebird’s scum game where it is what she does?

(See the upick where she was scum with LLD she lurksacked it out similar to here.)

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Sure, let's talk results.

My last finished town games:

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=77380

poed the game d1, still lost because my reads were ignored.

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=77043

had 2 scum pinned on D1, had enough townreads to poe the game, still lost because my reads were ignored.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=76181

literally mechanically guiltied 3 scum and had called all 4 scum on d2 with only 1 flipped scum (that I deathtunneled) and still lost the game because... my reads were ignored.

there's a pattern here.

This is gambler’s fallacy RC.

Just stop. Mafia isn’t a scientific game.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

that isn't gambler's fallacy

Yes it is.

It says I have rolled X a hundred times therefore Y is bound to happen.

When X has no direct impact on what Y could be.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Like LOVEBIRD HAS 58 POSTS.

YOU SAY SHE LURKS AS SCUM: I AGREE SHE LURKS AS SCUM

SHE IS NOT LURKING THIS GAME

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN ABOUT HER ALIGNMENT?

Lol she is lurking.

She has done nothing of note.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Like what's our game history?

0) You were town with every single wrong read in CIv mafia. I made you mislynch every town. scum won
>> Yes I was bad that game.
1) you fakeclaimed a guilty on me. I was town. I told you to leave me the fuck alone.

>> I did not fake claim a guilty. I had proof you weren’t a PGO and tunneled you for it. When someone fake claims it is a guilty. Every time.

2) You join a game despite me telling you to leave me the fuck alone and antagonize me to the point that I get banned for it. Note that UT at this point promised to force replace you if you do it again, which I just remembered now.
>> I already apologized for joining it. And yes he did. I should have outed the alt and WoTO’d You here. However I deserve the right to play in mafia games here without having to put everywhere I go. I hidden alted to get better and avoid this shit. I have been nothing but nice here and do not deserve what you are doing.

3) Attempted to negotiate ceasefire, replace into Mastina's game, call all the scum at different points, replace out because nancy was being an ass.

>>I don’t remember this game tbh.

4) A bunch of SvS games which went fine until the last one where you decided that it was incredibly toxic of me to bus you in a game where all scum weren't going to endgame and we needed to start earning major towncred early (you failed to do this and ended up losing the game as a result, I will note)

>> You literally gamethrew bussing me without consent when I was the only PR that could kill a scum. I had major cred and so did you til you decided For meta reasons you have to bus someone. You didn’t even explain in scum chat when you’d bus me. I was saying later then you went off the handle because you were bored.

5) this

>> You mean how you’re protecting lovebird and want me to fight you. I won’t. I will only defend if necessary.

so like it's pretty clear we don't work as anything besides scumbuddies, but given that I've outperformed you every time we've been TvT you'd think at some point you'd stop being like this.

We actually don’t work st all. I have been silent this entire game and all it has been is you don’t like me. That’s well established.

I am not changing our vote.

I am not fighting with you and turning the thread toxic. If you want to scream Math disagrees with me feel free but I have been rather lurky all game and not influencing well anything. If you want the Lovebird wagon to disappear because you believe Lovebird is town or more likely they are your buddy you are going to need to convince people through discussion not threats of toxicity.

I may suck but I am working on improving hence the hydra.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

can you just stay on lovebird?

T&T is fucking open wolfing. I don’t know wtf they’re trying to prove but saying they want me dead and saying they’re not even sr me, is a blatant scumclaim.

I feel a lot more confident that this is flipping red than LB but I’m not opposed. I just don’t want open wolfing scum to be allowed to coast.

RightKnight your cherrypicking is becoming frustrating. I think you're scum, I've said this and you not paying attention to that if while thinking we're scum is , but we're looking elsewhere right now because I think it's more useful and RC is working with that. We'll revisit you later.
In the meantime be helpful and protown, do the cooperative talking thing you want RC to be doing. Exclaiming we're open wolfing and blatantly scumclaiming, asking the mod to edit ingame posts ( ) and all that nonsense is just counterproductive noise, since it's unlikely to get us lynched. Assuming that's your goal with it.

i'm townreading maria, lovebird, kinda townreading dunn, vaguely townreading kokichi and schadd and ceejay, willing to sheep consensus on eragon

the leftover pool is

messiah
rightknight
simyk
wisdom
-empty slot-

I like how it sounds! But, not convinced on ceejay. Why consensus on eragon?

I didn't give this list but I'll give opinions. Personally I switched on ceejay because of the zero fucks given, that seems riskier to me as scum. I have messed up reads because of that before though, thinking about it. Consensus on Eragon is that I think he's town and some of the things he's said have been very on point, plus most everyone already thinks he's town so kicking that is probably not worth it. Him getting in between Kokichi and Maria was suuuuper awkward though. Possibly as awkward as Maria herself, though that looks resolved now.

Lovebird I'm sad you're scum this game

How do you feel about MC?

Literally who

I'm not the only one suffering!


-Key

Good, then get the fuck off of me, if you don’t like it. I’m not scum here and your partner 100% fucking knows it!

Meh, whatever.

~ N

[RightKnight]

ND there's an element of progression that I think you're missing. I did think you guys were scum. Now I'm not so sure. Keychain still thinks that you're scum outright. I'm not scum and I wouldn't push on you guys if I were scum because Mathblade is one of the most easily pocketed players in site history and town you wouldn't see anything amiss with me cozying up to your slot given that I did it every time we rolled town.

If you're town trust us to figure it out in the space that we're giving you, if you're scum trust us to not forget it and to powerlynch you into next week

I’ll trust you’re town, when I see TOL RC in this game and not a moment sooner.

[RightKnight]

rc logic
Whoever looks town is scum

Or more accurately
"I cant read anyone for shit so i want to lynch town looking people so they dont endgame if they are scum"

I think it’s a coin flip, wrt which head is using moonlogic and the one pulling reads out of their ass but the game’s still early.

[RightKnight]

UNVOTE: Lovebird

I need to do some reading

Please let us know your thoughts.

~~Castle

Schadd what are your views on the game right now?

~~Castle

Still ignoring RC so I can play.

~~Castle

Lunch break is over.

~~Castle

[RightKnight]

Castle remember that time I told you maria was town and that 2 people were scum and you did every single thing you could to derail it despite the fact that I had told you before that game that I don't want you following me into games without asking permission because you ruin games for me and then you ruined that game for me and then MariaR flipped town? Do you enjoy creating shitty situations like this for me?

@ND get your partner to unvote Lovebird or I am going to make this extremely ugly for both of you because I am pissed now.

Don’t you dare fucking threaten me, RC. If you really think LB is town here, this bullshit of yours is doing him no favours.

How ‘bout I convince him to vote you or Schaad instead? Better?

[RightKnight]

Like I don't want to try to force replace your hydra because of ND and I don't want to replace out either because of Keychain so I'd like to find some kind of compromise
but compromise isn't you continuing your streak of discrediting all my correct wagons on scum and handing scum free mislynches every day phase that you get active

It’s hard to take anything you say seriously, so long as you’re incorrectly reading our slot.

~ Checkmate

[RightKnight]

that isn't gambler's fallacy

Yes it is.

It says I have rolled X a hundred times therefore Y is bound to happen.

When X has no direct impact on what Y could be.

~~Castle

Like as a programmer I'd assume you have some concept of logic and are smart enough to put the fact that my reads are generally worthwhile in the category of X impacting Y.
But I guess that flies out the window when it involves me because your goal is to antagonize me or something? who knows. you won't piss me off enough to get me banned this time.
like you've just said something that either makes you incredibly stupid or makes you intentionally trying to piss me off. What conclusion should I draw, mathblade?

RC, you were the one who dealt the first blow -

in THIS game

.

[RightKnight]

no its just rc being rc
can you just ignore him for now?

Okay, he’s just trying to bait our slot to get off LB.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Lovebird

Anyway RC, I apologize if I said anything to upset you. I think it’s pretty damn clear to everyone here that neither Math or you have any interest in fighting. I can tell you that Math made it 100% clear to me, he isn’t. Like you, he just wants to have a fun game.

@Mod, can you delete this post? You will be my favourite mod ever.

don't be passive aggressive when you secret hydra in a game with a person who goes out of their way to ruin games for me and then claim they're not doing so.
like math is clearly either scum being disingenuous, or trying to ruin the game for me. the solution is to lynch them either way regardless of your attachment to them.
if you're town then get your partner to stop pulling this shit on me because regardless of what bullshit they peddle to you they are intentionally aiming to piss me off if town.

i don't want to force you to acknowledge this but i suppose this discussion follows from the assumption they are town which i would agree with

it could go either way. if they are actually town I'm doing my due diligence in preventing them from being a necessary mislynch.

“Passive-aggressive”, really? More like me being pissed at being fucking played by you. Don’t worry though - fool me once . . .

[RightKnight]

and for context which mathblade probably hasn't given you if you're town and has instead tried to claim some sort of moral highgruond:

mathblade fakeclaims a guilty on town me which pisses me off to the point that Titus force replaces me. town loses because of him.
immediately following this, mathblade joins a game after with me (and I had specifically said both in the previous game and in skype for them to stop joining games with me without asking)
mathblade agrees to be bussed then following the point of no return decides that i'm being super toxic and gets the mod to force replace me

I am personally against claiming fake guilties and anyone who would ever be foolish enough to try it, will regret it. Just ask bb. He pulled that shit on me, only to have to admit he was outright lying. At any rate, none of this has jack to do with me and it is really unfair of you to take this out on me. The proper place for us to have had this discussion is Discord, not here.

And since I’m town and Math is my hydra partner, that defacto makes him town too.

[RightKnight]

ND there's an element of progression that I think you're missing. I did think you guys were scum. Now I'm not so sure. Keychain still thinks that you're scum outright. I'm not scum and I wouldn't push on you guys if I were scum because Mathblade is one of the most easily pocketed players in site history and town you wouldn't see anything amiss with me cozying up to your slot given that I did it every time we rolled town.

If you're town trust us to figure it out in the space that we're giving you, if you're scum trust us to not forget it and to powerlynch you into next week

I’ll trust you’re town, when I see TOL RC in this game and not a moment sooner.

TOL RC was RC who got townread early and had their reads taken seriously and had the freedom to sort all the slots. That's why TOL RC was good.
You're trying to solve things in reverse order: I'll start taking a better approach to this game when I'm able to push people without having all this kneejerk resistance.

You’re kind of missing the point here, I trusted town!RC’s reads in that game because I really respected your play. Once you show me that, I’ll believe you may be town hrere but threatening me to make things “ugly”, if I don’t do what you want, is having the exact opposite effect of what you intended.

[RightKnight]

And I said all of this in Throne of Lies itself that it felt so liberating to be townread and I felt super confident as a result.
I don't obvtown under pressure and I don't obvtown when Mathblade is doing their best to discredit me and shut my play down and harass me.

RC, ffs, read the game! You’re the one who’s been pushing on our slot first and why are you even so fixated on Math, when Wisdom has made it clear that he isn’t exactly a fan either? When someone (or in your case, hydra) is incomprehensibly incapable of reading me, I instinctively dustrust their other reads. It’s not goddamned rocket science.

[RightKnight]

I don't think that I know how to read wisdom. maybe vaguely scummy based on their approach to the ND hydra not feeling super solvey but meh.

What??? Wisdom is scummy because unlike you - he is actually capable of reading us correctly this game? Okay.

[RightKnight]

Keychain is outright scumreading there, for the record.

RC, you were the one who dealt the first blow -in THIS game.

My 'first blow' was to scumread your slot: you reacted by making it super personal. I'm keeping it super personal because it's clear to me that it is super personal from your point of view and that makes it personal to me because you attacking me personally as opposed to attacking me mafia wise is a lot more antagonizing.

You should know I don’t handle bad pushes well - irrespective of who makes them and it felt like you were going out of YOUR way to antagonize our slot unnecessarily. When you made that post asking your partner for permission to vote us - right here in the thread, instead of in your PT.

You make a post, asking me to “stop” whatever and that you no longer sr us. I actually feel bad at that point for upsetting you and apologized because I was legit concerned that you might replace out because of me and I didn’t want that on my head on the slight chance you were actually town here. Then bang the next day, your partner makes it clear it was all a sham, so yeah - I’m legit pissed at you for that. I was being sincere and you basically made a fool out of me. I don’t even understand why this is at all surprising to you?

[RightKnight]

Also IDC who strikes the first blow this time. If a woman is getting beaten by her husband and when he comes home drunk and starts threatening her she stabs him is she at fault?

I applaud your sense of social justice here, eventhough I think you’re kind of being overly dramatic here.

[RightKnight]

Maybe I should just get listmod involvement instead of ruining this game for everyone else, I dunno.
Like I'd feel bad about doing that if you guys were just scum using mathblade's history of being an asshole to me for personal gain but like this is really enough.

We are not scum and we don’t want to fight with you, if you don’t. As I already said, I don’t react well to what I consider bad pushes. ISO every single game of mine on either MU or MS, if you really think I am making this personal. I’m not.

[RightKnight]

RC, you know I have nothing personal against you. If you believe nothing else, please believe that. I’m not a fan of how you’ve been treating our slot in this game - for whatever reasons.

This is the way I consistently react to treatment of this nature. I’m sorry if it upsets you personally but this is 100% game-related for me. I will react the exact same way to ANYONE who would do what you did in this game. It is nothing against you personally.

~ Nancy

[RightKnight]

Why is lovebird not lynched yet ughhh

What a terrible post

Does it seem like ceejay is so confident in me being scum that he says this?

Yeah Messiah's posts about Lovebird's shading looks about right to me. Like Lovebird calls posts scummy and that's it.

I think my vote stays on Lovebird

For the purpose of the record, in my only game with Lovebird she was the D1 mislynch that I hard-drove since because she gave bad reasoning to scumread someone whom I was hard townreading... So IF her laconic THOUGHT PROCESS is your only reason to scumread her you should probably nuance your prospective or reevaulate first since because we were able to manipulate JUST that to easily lynch her.

I'll consider this

Doesn't say anything about anybody else or anything else going on...

I don’t want to mislynch. I do know RC is messing with my head and him threatening our slot to unvote you, just made me want to do the exact opposite.

Anyway, I don’t want to mislynch, so I’ll unvote you for now.

UNVOTE:

I want to reread your ISO with a clear head and I’m pretty much incapable of doing that now.

~ Checkmate/Nancy

Spoiler:

The RC/Math thing makes me want to just bang my head against a wall, repeatedly. Ugh.

[RightKnight]

I don't think that I know how to read wisdom. maybe vaguely scummy based on their approach to the ND hydra not feeling super solvey but meh.

What??? Wisdom is scummy because unlike you - he is actually capable of reading us correctly this game? Okay.

Maybe it's not always town that townreads you and scum that scumreads you

Wisdom correctly townreading us doesn’t make him scum. What?

[RightKnight]

I have nothing against you and a lot against your partner Nancy.

And ftr I know what you're like. When I talk about making it personal I'm not talking about you. I expect a certain reaction from you. Mathblade me scumreading him into a whole bunch of bullshit about me hating him and not respecting his '75% winrate' on a different site and pulled that gambler's fallacy to discredit my reads.

Mathblade is a programmer, they're competent enough to apply gambler's fallacy, so that was either tactical discrediting or them being an asshole discrediting.

RC, first of all, good to know. However, you feel about Math, you do know that if you can read me correctly, it means you are also reading Math correctly as well. And tbf, I still don’t care for either yours or your partner’s reasons for scumreading our slot. I could of course elaborate on why it should blatantly so obvious I’m town here but I think that might be in violation of some rule here, so I won’t.

And I once again reiterate my point that so long as your slot wrongly scumreads our slot for bad reasons, it will be extremely hard to take any of your other reads seriously.

[RightKnight]

Lovebird just keep your vote on MC please.

Wisdom correctly townreading us doesn’t make him scum. What?

Doesn't make him town either. It is what it is.

I was townleaning him before he correctly townread us, that just sealed it for me. Lovebird seems to be implying that I should be suspicious of his townread on our slot and I see no good reason to be. I have plenty of meta with Wisdom and ever since he nearly mislynched me in Necromancer, he has accurately townread me, so yes - if he were to wrongly scumread me, it of course would make me suspicious but he has so far given me no reason to scumread him in this game and unless that changes - for whatever reason - I won’t.

[RightKnight]

Like nancy you have to realize that if you're town Mathblade is intentionally trying to piss me off then playing the victim in the situation. that's not okay. make him stop.
you don't have to blindly sheep what I say or anything, I'm not trying to bully you, but I want mathblade to not knee jerk oppose shit because I support it

If you’re really my friend here, please stop putting me in the middle of this. It is totally unfair to me.

[RightKnight]

Let's start by clarifying something: where has my head expressed a read on you since you actively started posting in the game?

I fell behind. Hydra fight getting kind of dirty didn't help. In future, if you're a secret alt preinned to a game and I sign up as a hydra with someone who for whatever reason you don't want to play with but don't want to out yourself to, please contact me and I'll find us another game

I think the tone is way off for Nancy Drew as is the playstyle which is why I'm assuming that she's 100% scum if she is in fact Nancy Drew. But I'm scumreading them either way.

Can we please powerlynch this? Actually, after my flip, that will definitely happen anyway. Hopefully town isn’t that stupid to fall for this though.

While RC actually seemed to be making some effort to sort me, this scultroll hydra hasn’t read even 10 posts from me but proclaims themelves to be some kind of fucking expert on me. Really?

I mean, let’s call a spade a spade here. Whomever is behind this facade is blatantly open wolfing here and acks the guts to do it under their real nic.

The only player whomever claims to lock alignmentread me accurately is Ank and if she were in this game. we know she would have already locktowned me.

VOTE: rightknight ?

Schaad, if you are town here, can you not recognize an open scumclaim when you see it? No way in hell is M&Ms town in this game. No freaking way.

What town player claims to meta alignment lock a player, based on

less than 10 fucking posts

??? and under a secret hydra no less? In what world can this ever come from town?

I suggest you out, checkmate
given math outed speculating about you is only going to harm your slot and the game

Now I need scumtroll M&Ms hydra to do likewise.

I have never seen more than 10 posts from nancy drew and not known her alignment correctly. she's scum this game.

I think the tone is way off for Nancy Drew as is the playstyle which is why I'm assuming that she's 100% scum if she is in fact Nancy Drew. But I'm scumreading them either way.

Whoops

I really gotta, like, not play multiple hydra games at once lol

Dafuq????

Did you roll scum here RC? Is this you open wolfing here? I honestly don’t know what to think rn.

What a ridiculous sequence of events. I don't know why but I feel like this confusion points town, though not strongly. Potentially a strategy in response to the RC scumread though, or an intense overreaction to an "unknown player" having a scumread. Also I'm laughing at the "acks the guts to do it under their real nic" bit, considering to my knowledge neither this hydra nor Music and Mail are anonymous. Maybe just a little self consciousness coming from the only hydra that even started out secret.

Though now that I think about it, the pivot back to "and because of this RC is scum" despite favourably comparing RC to M&M feels more like scum making a misstep and trying to steer it back to the scumread they're claiming to have, rather than town actually realising they made a mistake and using that to determine the read. Feels like the scumread came first and the reason later, does that make sense?

Wtf? How is that "why me"? And, I already said who voting me I think is scum.

Aren’t you even a little bit suspicious that you are T&T’s 1 and only townread in this game? Aren’t you at all concerned about possibly being pocketed by them?

Hello, this is Keychain. Lovebird is not T&T's only townread unless you filter out any posts I sign. I have stated my townread on Messiah (yes I noticed our vote is on them) and I also agree with the mostly consensus townreads of SIMYK and Eragon. I've also mentioned I found at least one of Lovebird's actions "skeevy", so that's some funny pocketing we're doing. I know it's easy to miss me, but I am here.

idea: keychain explains her reads with linguistics analogies to prevent rc from ghostwriting

I want to use diglossia to compare two reads but it's too early in the morning to come up with something good but I want you to know I thought about it

VOTE: Tatl and Tael

Missing their usual zeal

Me or him?


-Key

neither of our heads think that rightknight is town for anything that ND upon reflection. it is my view that we should power tunnel them because they're at worst a huge threat to the game, and are scum a massive amount of the time.
Keychain is opposed to me tunneling anyone because she feels like it's going to kill town engagement with the game. I think that avoiding town being engaged in shitlynching town is a good thing but I'm not in the mood for it.
I think that you guys all need to get the thirst for lynchbait out of your system so after we mislynch LB for absolutely no reason at all I'm going to come in tomorrow and we'll kill rightknight.

how does that sound?

to me it seemed like ND wanted to seem as sincere as possible in her scumread on me at certain points but it didn't mesh with her overall attempt to get me to back off of her and go somewhere else.
like the entire package doesn't add up to me, it doesn't feel like someone who actually thinks I'm scum at any point it feels like scum who wants to seem sincere on thinking so while their real goal fundamentally is to try to get me to back off. particularly with all of the stuff about the mathblade head that I don't like. particularly with what strongly feels like scum strongarming through the Lovebird mislynch.

i would say that there's almost never less than 2 scum currently voting on lovebird.

Math remember that you only survive today because I let you survive today.

i'm not even that sure rightknight is scum i just really want them dead :shrug:

can you just stay on lovebird?

T&T is fucking open wolfing. I don’t know wtf they’re trying to prove but saying they want me dead and saying they’re not even sr me, is a blatant scumclaim.

I feel a lot more confident that this is flipping red than LB but I’m not opposed. I just don’t want open wolfing scum to be allowed to coast.

RightKnight your cherrypicking is becoming frustrating. I think you're scum, I've said this and you not paying attention to that if while thinking we're scum is , but we're looking elsewhere right now because I think it's more useful and RC is working with that. We'll revisit you later.
In the meantime be helpful and protown, do the cooperative talking thing you want RC to be doing. Exclaiming we're open wolfing and blatantly scumclaiming, asking the mod to edit ingame posts ( ) and all that nonsense is just counterproductive noise, since it's unlikely to get us lynched. Assuming that's your goal with it.

i'm townreading maria, lovebird, kinda townreading dunn, vaguely townreading kokichi and schadd and ceejay, willing to sheep consensus on eragon

the leftover pool is

messiah
rightknight
simyk
wisdom
-empty slot-

I like how it sounds! But, not convinced on ceejay. Why consensus on eragon?

I didn't give this list but I'll give opinions. Personally I switched on ceejay because of the zero fucks given, that seems riskier to me as scum. I have messed up reads because of that before though, thinking about it. Consensus on Eragon is that I think he's town and some of the things he's said have been very on point, plus most everyone already thinks he's town so kicking that is probably not worth it. Him getting in between Kokichi and Maria was suuuuper awkward though. Possibly as awkward as Maria herself, though that looks resolved now.

Lovebird I'm sad you're scum this game

How do you feel about MC?

Literally who

I'm not the only one suffering!


-Key

ND there's an element of progression that I think you're missing. I did think you guys were scum. Now I'm not so sure. Keychain still thinks that you're scum outright. I'm not scum and I wouldn't push on you guys if I were scum because Mathblade is one of the most easily pocketed players in site history and town you wouldn't see anything amiss with me cozying up to your slot given that I did it every time we rolled town.

If you're town trust us to figure it out in the space that we're giving you, if you're scum trust us to not forget it and to powerlynch you into next week

[RightKnight]

If you're not willing to step in the middle of it then I'll just get the game mod / listmods to step in because this isn't going to work out any other way.

I appreciate that this really sucks to be you right now but I can't deal with Mathblade doing Mathblade things right now.

How about you two just ignore each other? Only address me and I will be the only one to address you?

[RightKnight]

I mean after 780 or whatever post I'm thinking of, for the record.

I'm intentionally not giving a read on your slot aorn.

You said since I’ve been actively posting, didn’t you?

And as long as either of your heads continue to make bad wrongheaded pushes on our slot, I am not going to be able to take your other reads seriously. And Keychain’s gotcha type posts on me for really dumb reasons - combined with the infuriating smugness aren’t helping matters any.

[RightKnight]

Castle Head V/LA until tbd I was rear ended and dealing with that