Mini 2034: DnD uPick (Town Victory!)
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I just thought about something that happened in this game and thought about something that might be a towntell for me and did some digging in past games
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In post 16, schadd_ wrote:my 3ds died and my charger doesn't ship until tuesday :[
i got 2-day shipping....... on wednesday..... and it just like openly said in checkout "yup thisll get here on the 9th"In post 27, schadd_ wrote:
: (In post 19, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:NO it is not an issue with the chrager as far as I can perceive - I have FULLY charged it but it just doesent turn on? (っ˘̩╭╮˘̩)っwhich of these 5 posts to you makes schadd town
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How I have lived my life so far without experiencing SIMYK I don't know. I'll laugh if she's scum and the levels stuff is made up to discourage town from gaining levels. Also iirc one of the other hydras here contains FormerFish? Hi Fish!
Good read. You're Tael though. Also don't self-meta please.
Hi <3
VOTE: ceejayvinoya
I'm not familiar with him but he's qualifying every one of his posts, his only ventured scumread is mechanics based on SIMYK but he's naked voted for Lovebird.
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Why? Or is that just because it lines up with a separate read on us?
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I mean, yeah. I think it's probably a good idea to let me front for now for several reasons. Are you not?In post 138, Messiah Complex wrote:
::waves:: hola! You comfortable with RC hiding under your skirt?In post 117, Tatl and Tael wrote:Also iirc one of the other hydras here contains FormerFish? Hi Fish!
This plus 226 up my scumread on you. It seems like you're scum trying to maintain your activity but in a fairly forced way.In post 139, schadd_ wrote:
oh i sorta misreadIn post 134, Tatl and Tael wrote:Why? Or is that just because it lines up with a separate read on us?
i believe him that such a thing exists, how about
if he is town and evaluated that thing in that way i think it would be possible he did so as wolf, or noticed it in the past as town, etc
Anyone reasonably familiar with us would probably boost their accuracy by reading us separately, because they can use their own knowledge of how we play. So it's a good question.In post 219, Messiah Complex wrote:
I know what you were asking, sorta. What I am saying is why would it matter which head the read was coming from? Do you trust their ability to read one head over the other? If the answer is one over the other what would that tell you? For me being part of a hydra is playing as one person. I know that isnt possible 100% but there shouldnt be much deviation from a base for the slot itself.In post 210, schadd_ wrote:
"from which head does the read source"In post 207, Messiah Complex wrote:
Arent they the same?In post 181, schadd_ wrote:are u tring tatl or tael
eh?In post 223, schadd_ wrote:
i am somewhat familiar with saskeismyyaoikismesis and i have expectations as to how she would be sorting the tatl and tael hydra that i am not sayingIn post 220, schadd_ wrote:i was trying to investigate saskeismyyaoikismesis's thought process for townreading a slot
she probably has an idea of it tho
eh?? What are these methods and why does my presence alter them I want to knowSaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:For the puprose of the record, Schadd, I am slightly altering those methods since because Keychain is in the hydra so ya...
pedit: I figrued... ( ̄へ ̄)
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Personal curiosity. I have no idea why you asked this.In post 242, schadd_ wrote:
yIn post 235, Tatl and Tael wrote:
eh?? What are these methods and why does my presence alter them I want to knowSaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:For the puprose of the record, Schadd, I am slightly altering those methods since because Keychain is in the hydra so ya...
pedit: I figrued... ( ̄へ ̄)
SCHADD why do you have a death wish? Also I disagree on your Eragon read and I'm interested in hearing you develop it further.In post 253, schadd_ wrote:
i am not confident that you are maf but yesIn post 252, Eragon wrote:
you cant explain the read yet you vote me because you think im scum?In post 169, schadd_ wrote:not really sowwy
please just vote me
I don't think he's made a single scum hunting statement without hedging/fencesitting/giving himself an out, which seems to me to be more likely to come from scum trying to avoid taking too firm a position too early.In post 247, Eragon wrote:
what do you mean by qualifying every one of his posts?In post 117, Tatl and Tael wrote: VOTE: ceejayvinoya
I'm not familiar with him but he's qualifying every one of his posts, his only ventured scumread is mechanics based on SIMYK but he's naked voted for Lovebird.
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What posts cause these moments? Reading through it looks like you had a townread earlier that dissapated (my phone doesn't think that's a word but I do so there), but it sounds like you're going back and forth. To me his activity sounds forced.In post 297, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:Well atleast I feel less dumb for those moments I townread schadd ┐(´-`)┌
In post 313, ceejayvinoya wrote:hi sorry ive been busy
ceejay I don't know anything about you but your posting is really bad. Are you generally this noncommittal?In post 314, ceejayvinoya wrote:great I missed nothing much
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I'd find it useful if not everyone's username was distilled to 2 letter acronyms if possible because I'm going to lose track super quickly between RC, MC, CM, LB etc.
VOTE: RightKnightIn post 376, Tatl and Tael wrote:hey keychain can we vote scumknight
I'm personally feeling better about ceejay (despite the increased support there - SIMYK if town I suspect your accuracy is higher than mine, I should be sheeping you before you sheep me) and kind of find Lovebird's vote there skeevy.
Thank you for this breakdown! I don't follow your analysis of his read on you - after 135 it didn't look like you would have expected a free townread from scumschadd. But I agree with the first and last points of both your lists.In post 324, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:okay SO Kechain I think it would be most elementary for myself to elaborate upon my alexithymia regarding SCHADD by explaining what I LIKED and what I DISLIKED:
GOOD- is MORE INTERACTIVE than I have seen in the past from him as scum!
- has not handed me a FREE townread and I still think he doth not townread me? so ya
- I AGREE with his reads except on Eragon and myself OBVI...
- I preposterise that it must be a reasonable action for schadd to initiate questioning my HISTORY of reading Raybells since because of our history/my INEPTITUDE in reading Raybells!
BAD- WHAT he is interacting with seems LACKING but this game possesses an unfortunate DEARTH of content that is exciting... so that could be the reason why
- His frusttration with ERAGON seems a bit self-conscious?
On your question of why people weren't voting him - I was tempted but wanted to stick with ceejay a bit longer until he returned and to see what happened. And right now RC wants to vote RightKnight more than I want to vote schadd.
on behalf of the southern hemisphere you're wrong and the weather's been improving every dayIn post 354, MariaR wrote:Summers over
I like Messiah for town personally, probably going to hold that for a while.
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You know full well how I feel about playing mafia with you so don't sneak into a game with me on an anonymous alt where I can't WOTC you and then start bitching that I'm toxic.
The idea of me 'hiding behind' Keychain as scum is stupid and not something that you would ever say as an actual read on me: it's something you'd say because it sounds good.
I also happen to have a very good read on your hydra partner, and surprise surprise, Ialsothink she's scum.
I've stopped short of declaring open war on your slot because Keychain doesn't like it but realize that the only reason you might survive today is her.- Tatl and Tael
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Okay, but I know you're scum.
You only talk like you're a wannabe RC when you're scum.You know my scum meta and this is full of shit.
I plan everything as scum. If you ever think I am scum I am town. Period.
If you push me that results in your death. So rethink this and play nice
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First off: I have a basically perfect record reading you. Same read that works on Titus works on you. You have the exact same tells. Town!you doesn't try this shit.
Second off: you want to have a battle let's have a battle. You think you're hot shit as scum but if you can't win Mastina's game in the position you were left in you're hopeless.- Tatl and Tael
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The truth about you Mathblade is that you try your best to be me but you fail at it, then when you fail at it you blame me for crossing boundaries you wouldn't.
Which isn't at all the difference, I don't get mad about being correctly pushed as scum in the way you're implying and youknowthat.
You pushed on me the entire game in MIM, Keychain only pushed me for one day phase, yet she was all but lock town and people were voting you post my flip.
I didn't get mad at anyone in that game for calling me scum, I got mad because you were objectively obvious scum and no one would listen to me.
So the idea that I'm toxic to people when they push on me as scum, not so sensible. That's more of a town thing and even then it's when its for stupid reasons.
Now, people should listen to me when it's a person that I have a super consistent read on and the lack of that happening pissed me off.
Which really isn't a scum thing at all, and if you leveraged the entire situation half as well as I would have the game would have been unlosable.
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Point here is just that Mathblade is overestimating his abilities as a scum player when they come in and say all this big shit, not something else.You pushed on me the entire game in MIM, Keychain only pushed me for one day phase, yet she was all but lock town and people were voting you post my flip.- Tatl and Tael
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And sure, hows this for a plan? "IF we call RC/Key town they'll townread us back. Oh wait, that didn't work. Let's call them scum and try to scare them off wagoning us."In post 431, RightKnight wrote:I plan everything as scum. If you ever think I am scum I am town. Period.- Tatl and Tael
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1) town mathblade never comes out with a townread on me in the early game, and if they really believe that I always misread them (which is demonstrably untrue), they don't 180 because I scumread them.
2) amusingly enough I was moreso scumreading the hydra because of the other head's posts until Mathblade came in here and just hard spewed the slot scum on the last page.- Tatl and Tael
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By the way: I've actually almost never landed in a game with Mathblade. As far as I know I've only been in a game as town with scum her once that wasn't a turbo, and I did call her scum there.
It's more that I occasionally spectate games she's in and have nailed her consistently. I can bring up discord messages to prove at least some incidences of this happening.- Tatl and Tael
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In post 479, Music and Mail wrote:I have never seen more than 10 posts from nancy drew and not known her alignment correctly. she's scum this game.
WhoopsIn post 482, Music and Mail wrote:I think the tone is way off for Nancy Drew as is the playstyle which is why I'm assuming that she's 100% scum if she is in fact Nancy Drew. But I'm scumreading them either way.
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Town Mathblade is stubborn as sin. Town mathblade comes in and has a gigantic fight with me because he has to prove that I'm scum because that's how he reacts to situations like this.
He's backing off and pushing an easy mislynch because he's scum and that's the safer play for him as scum. Take an easy mislynch, nightkill me, have his buddies refuse to vote him tomorrow.
This course of action, to immediately derail and start pushing someone else is not a part of Mathblade's playbook and he's going to insist he's gotten better about that but he objectively hasn't.
Math would be screaming and yelling that I'm scum and the problem and that everyone needs to immediately lynch me because he has an 100% read here.
For the record I told keychain before Maria's last post that if she didn't either call me scum or start attacking my ability she was 100% scum and it started so maybe she's town.- Tatl and Tael
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You're the one who keeps dragging it out of game Mathblade!In post 571, RightKnight wrote:1) I am working with a hydra partner. That explicitly means I talk with them. I show them why I think what I do and we discuss things and we do things that we both agree on.
2) I can be just as stubborn as scum.
3) I have many games where I am NOT stubborn as town and have been working on fixing that flaw.
4) Again you are assuming that I am backing off you because you think I am playing strategically, I promised Checkmate I would give the benefit of the doubt and they would me. We talk about things whenever I am not on a sickness stay away from mafia moment.
5) On a new site I am actually good and have a 75/100% (its complicated) winrate as town. I admit I am human and I do have games where I fuck up.
Quite literally everything you have described is all in my last town game here. Talk about this game. If you think I am scum what is scummy here? I don’t think you can answer that question, instead you’re trying to lynch me because oh no Math can be a good scum player.
Well I can be a decent town player given the chance. Keep it in game.
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I've just said that you're scum, described the way that you play the game as town, explained how that's clearly not your approach in this game, and told everyone to lynch you.
Me lynching you when you roll scum isn't a personal attack, it's me attempting to play to my win condition. Stop repeatedly making comments along the lines of keep it in game when I have done absolutely nothing to make this an out of game battle besides to point out that I didn't know you would be in this game.- Tatl and Tael
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You even implicitly acknowledged that I know how to read you when you said that you were trying to fool other people not me when I kept saying you were obvscum last game
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I already have made my case: that you make this play as scum but not as town.
The fact that you don't like the way I describe your town game is the single biggest flaw of your scum game, that you aren't self aware enough regarding your town game to understand how you actually come across and you play scum as an 'idealized' version of your town game where you play like you want to think you are as opposed to the way that you actually are.
The fact that you don't like my meta doesn't mean that it's not true or that you're not scum.- Tatl and Tael
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Well it was a pretty bad comment where you basically said that if my read on someone was right I was scum and if it was wrong I was locktown because my reads are bad or something? So I expected you to say something dumb that upsets me but it doesn't mean that I am happy about you saying something scum that upsets me.
There's plenty you can talk with me about that isn't literally just saying you're bad and if you're right its because you're informed scum.- Tatl and Tael
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I fell behind. Hydra fight getting kind of dirty didn't help. In future, if you're a secret alt preinned to a game and I sign up as a hydra with someone who for whatever reason you don't want to play with but don't want to out yourself to, please contact me and I'll find us another game
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Can we please powerlynch this? Actually, after my flip, that will definitely happen anyway. Hopefully town isn’t that stupid to fall for this though.In post 482, Music and Mail wrote:I think the tone is way off for Nancy Drew as is the playstyle which is why I'm assuming that she's 100% scum if she is in fact Nancy Drew. But I'm scumreading them either way.
While RC actually seemed to be making some effort to sort me, this scultroll hydra hasn’t read even 10 posts from me but proclaims themelves to be some kind of fucking expert on me. Really?
I mean, let’s call a spade a spade here. Whomever is behind this facade is blatantly open wolfing here and acks the guts to do it under their real nic.
The only player whomever claims to lock alignmentread me accurately is Ank and if she were in this game. we know she would have already locktowned me.In post 643, RightKnight wrote:Schaad, if you are town here, can you not recognize an open scumclaim when you see it? No way in hell is M&Ms town in this game. No freaking way.
What town player claims to meta alignment lock a player, based onless than 10 fucking posts??? and under a secret hydra no less? In what world can this ever come from town?In post 644, RightKnight wrote:
Now I need scumtroll M&Ms hydra to do likewise.In post 486, Wisdom wrote:I suggest you out, checkmate
given math outed speculating about you is only going to harm your slot and the game
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