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Post Post #1698  (isolation #200)  » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:55 pm

because I feel Reundo played a pretty good game, and would be obv. town in normal conditions.

but it seems like that should be the way for everyone

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Post Post #1699  (isolation #201)  » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:58 pm

how the fuck are both Tora and I at exactly 199 posts...

is this coincidence or fate!

either way, im at200 now.

haha

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Post Post #1740  (isolation #202)  » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:37 am

IM SORRY I COULDN'T RESIST

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Post Post #1741  (isolation #203)  » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:38 am

WAIT NO! why cant i use youtube tags

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Post Post #1743  (isolation #204)  » Fri Sep 21, 2018 8:41 am

oh...

thanks

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Post Post #1771  (isolation #205)  » Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:46 pm

In post 1768, Keyser Söze wrote:If Reundo/Nauci/Eragon are left in the game later on, I’m sure they put my lynch over the other players no?

Even if my lynch is the wrong lynch, it’s the right lynch potentially tomorrow just so those 3 players reset their reads and re-evaluate (even Irrelphant may be forced to put me in their PoE for tomorrow).


That’s actually a debate IMO

It would be between you/reundo

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Post Post #1800  (isolation #206)  » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:53 pm

Hey do we know how many votes are on reundo?

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Post Post #1801  (isolation #207)  » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:54 pm

I has a plan-maybe a bad plan-but I has a plan nonetheless

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Post Post #1803  (isolation #208)  » Fri Sep 21, 2018 6:56 pm

Let’s not what?

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Post Post #1869  (isolation #209)  » Sat Sep 22, 2018 10:36 pm

Sorry bois I had a golf tourney and visiting with a bunch o family today, so I was just like “fuck FM” fa r today
I’ll do thingies tommorow

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Post Post #1930  (isolation #210)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:52 am

k im actually having some time rn and will catchup

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Post Post #1932  (isolation #211)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:24 am

Spoiler:
In post 1876, Nauci wrote:I'm not loving Toranaga's posts today

idk if it means scum reading or anything just

I don't like the posts themselves

okay super busy through Monday I finally do my training to foster kittens in the morning! ~toodles


1. i dont really see anything bad with tora here>
2. KITTENS!!!!!!

In post 1895, Keyser Söze wrote:I preferably want a TW vs Reundo fight to the death today.


puncho puncho

In post 1901, the worst wrote:look I feel about as good as the Reundo solve as you all probably do on the TW solve so there's a world where it's wrong. the only potential solves I see in guilty conscience here are {Keyser, Tora} and there's a very fine line between nuance and guilt

Era feels like a wolf today but he's probably just...nott.....

NSG is right, if you think NSG is scum you're bad at mafia. even if she's scum. if Rel is scum I'll quit mafia etc. etc. Nauci is kinda harder to townread than usual but she's almost certainly town by gamestate and PoE


i dont think tora is scum at all and im starting to doubt my keyser read

why do you think i feel scummy today, when i've only posted a couple times?

In post 1905, the worst wrote:I mean his fakeclaim was meme levels of scum flailing
does like...anyone disagree? lmao

pedit: GNB's posting was garbage
look at any of his other games
his posting is garbage regardless of alignment

you guys need to read me, not my pred who can't play mafia

RIP GNB

In post 1910, Toranaga wrote:
In post 1905, the worst wrote:I mean his fakeclaim was meme levels of scum flailing
does like...anyone disagree? lmao

pedit: GNB's posting was garbage
look at any of his other games
his posting is garbage regardless of alignment

you guys need to read me, not my pred who can't play mafia

can you go through how you were so sure volxen was scum? I don't think volxen flailed, he had very consistent posting throughout and fought his lynch well. what did you see that was so clear?


eh, the watcher claim was kinda flailing imo, not the best option really.
it just confirmed me wanting to lynch him actually
In post 1917, Keyser Söze wrote:I understand Nauci’s scum read of me.
I understood Eragon’s scum read of me.

But your willingness to lynch me now...? Not good bro, not good.


oof

In post 1921, Nauci wrote:Pivoting to new viable mislynch targets as scum is an art form and I've only seen Irrelephant11 do it with absolute grace on this site

did you bring this up becuase you think TW is doing this?

In post 1922, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1912, the worst wrote:
In post 1911, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1908, the worst wrote:hardclaim opportunistic cornered town
I'll lynch Keyser over myself if you all agree not to mislynch me if he flips town

I'm just super worried we're both in the same position of having been irreparably PoE'd

Are myself and Reundo your bottom two reads now?

I haven't hard reassessed my reads based on the last few pages but you're dropping hard :c I still think Reundo needs to die before endgame but I think your flip is close to being a necessity

That said lynching through both of us feels.. bad

Necessity?

Why? Because Nauci/Eragon/Reundo scum read me?

WTF are you doing TW? If you’re town you’re f****g up the dynamics now.

im actually being reconsidering my read omn you, thinking i was reading too much into tone,
i do kinda agree here with TW being slightly opportunistic
although you did also got a bit opportunistic
In post 1926, the worst wrote:I'm laughing so hard rn
Keyser meltdown 11/10

poking da fire

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Post Post #1933  (isolation #212)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:27 am

i did notice that reundo was a bit over-defensive and finally starting to post now that consioderbale suspicion is on them.
it seemed like they were comfortabel to ride the waves of towncred from volxen, but now that they dont have it they finally need to do stuff

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Post Post #1948  (isolation #213)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:01 pm

hmmmm...

we have the numbers, so do i just follow the leader and vote ducky and win tommorow with reundo, or do i try to pull a reundo lynch across now?

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Post Post #1949  (isolation #214)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:03 pm

like, i could make a good scum case on both Reundo and TW, but my gut is saying reundo > TW

either are good

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Post Post #1951  (isolation #215)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:05 pm

VOTE: The Worst

probably wouldnt do this for anyone but you in this game tbh...

This is L-1

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Post Post #1952  (isolation #216)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:05 pm

im feeling the game-solved apathy rn and just like, cant bother

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Post Post #1965  (isolation #217)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:29 pm

lets hope this is the end

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Post Post #1966  (isolation #218)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:30 pm

honestly, this hads probably been my favorite game on MS to date, and one of my few top games ever

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Post Post #1968  (isolation #219)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:31 pm

In post 1967, Toranaga wrote:MS needs engaging, respectful people who are competitive about mafia whenever they're playing it

a mafia game only works if you care about it

I'm having kind of a frustrating experience with mafiascum recently because it feels a lot of people either stop caring midway through or never really wanted to play it in the first place. this game is good because almost every slot is engaging and trying.


agreed :3.

the thing about my home forum, is that almost everyone is super active, but like, 75% of people dont post content and are just a bunch of shitters

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Post Post #2007  (isolation #220)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:44 pm

In post 1975, Toranaga wrote:ffs don't be town :////


^poor ducky.

im sorry I should've stuck w/ my gut

In post 1976, Keyser Söze wrote:
In post 1972, the worst wrote:still town. sorry all.

Really?

I think we’ve lost then :cry:


boi we got numbers.
THERE IS STRENGTH IN NUMBERS.

They hunted us
They are coming for us
They know we are now strong
They fear us
We must prove them right
We must save ourselves and this plant
We fight as one
We need your help

(free towncred if you know the series im referring too)

In post 1979, Toranaga wrote:I don't like reundo's last post.

agreed here

In post 1983, the worst wrote:sorry.

yeah NSG is not scum. Rel is not scum. I'll literally need to take a break from mafia in general if I'm wrong on either of those because fuuuck
I don't want Keyser to be scum but there's a world where I'm wrong.

your never wrong on Rel, I dont think your wrong on NSG

In post 1984, the worst wrote:{NSG, Rel}
{Eragon}
{Nauci, Tora}
{Keyser}
{}
{Reundo}

last guesses.

I mean, Idk why you arent hard-towning Nauci, but you do you

In post 1986, the worst wrote:if Reundo is wolf and endgames this you're all bad

please please sort him with extreme prejudice tomorrow and act accordingly (was kinda my intention today but I was always eating a lynch so it's fine)

Reundo won't endgame us
Thus I swear

In post 1988, northsidegal wrote:assuming duck isn't twilight trolling I think my opinions have been made clear

don't get endgamed by toranaga

:facepalm:
tora be town

In post 1991, the worst wrote:
In post 1988, northsidegal wrote:assuming duck isn't twilight trolling I think my opinions have been made clear

this is such a townsidegal post too I think
wish I had the enthusiasm to twilight troll this hard

*GASP*
has he been misleading us!
(/s)

In post 1992, Toranaga wrote:this is suddenly one of the hardest games I've played

touche

In post 1994, the worst wrote:this doesn't read like what I'd expect from scum!you but I think after Heroes Wanted I probably have an unreasonably high opinion of town!Tora, which will totally mellow out.

I don't weak townread you necessarily I'm just super confident on NSG/Rel and would be surprised if Era flips red.


-insert dancing Pikachu gif here-

In post 1995, the worst wrote:we probably just needed a supervillain to scream at for a bit tbh


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

In post 1997, the worst wrote:yeah I'm completely on the same page, sans knowledge I've mentioned above

I can't really think if anyone here should have known better. wolfiest thing in Nauci's ISO is her rep in comment about my towngame then acting like it was a reaction test once I became lynchable but she doesn't feel like a wolf otherwise rip

you're fine though sorry for getting distracted. Heroes Wanted lategame was a super unique situation where very few of us realised that scum were steamrolling despite the early lunches and we had to make a lot of changes to turn things around. that kind of locktown level of gamestate read has happened to me... twice ever I think?


agree on Nauci, feels textbook town to me

In post 1998, Toranaga wrote:yeah tbh I was expecting a bit more from you this game as well

you had some brilliant moments of gut reading into stuff correctly with lots of confidence and didn't actually deserve to be lynched at all. I mean you totally dunked on volxen and dunn. it just looked like bussing when you did it.

rip in pieces ducky


DRIP!
ducky rest in peace

In post 2003, Toranaga wrote:volxen is actually a late sesq wagoner and only starts pushing her strongly once they've become competing wagons

what do you expect from volxen in a svs situation here? to roll over and die?


I dont know what you're trying to say here, but I dont really think Nauci is scum based on Volxen voting their replaces

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Post Post #2008  (isolation #221)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:45 pm

In post 2006, Toranaga wrote:
In post 2004, the worst wrote:given he did the fakeclaim I don't think it was his intention to roll over and die nah

good, so, if he claims vt, he gets lynched and then sesq gets lynched d2, right?

if he claims watcher, he might not get lynched, he might get sesq lynched and then claim towncred for it even if he doesn't draw a NK, he might out the real watcher and make sesq look good etc

I don't think this is spewed clear. I think it's the opposite. I think sesq would actually look better if volxen just rolled with a vt claim and died there.


those two thoughts can't go together, its one or the other

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Post Post #2011  (isolation #222)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:49 pm

In post 2009, Toranaga wrote:
In post 2008, Eragon wrote:
In post 2006, Toranaga wrote:
In post 2004, the worst wrote:given he did the fakeclaim I don't think it was his intention to roll over and die nah

good, so, if he claims vt, he gets lynched and then sesq gets lynched d2, right?

if he claims watcher, he might not get lynched, he might get sesq lynched and then claim towncred for it even if he doesn't draw a NK, he might out the real watcher and make sesq look good etc

I don't think this is spewed clear. I think it's the opposite. I think sesq would actually look better if volxen just rolled with a vt claim and died there.


those two thoughts can't go together, its one or the other

yes it's one or the other

he could get sesq lynched and claim towncred for it, or get lynched himself and make sesq look good as it happened

if he claims vt, we're steamrolling sesq next gameday 100% of the time, right? the reason we didn't lynch sesq next was because volxen claimed watcher


there is no reason for him to Lynch his buddy

why in the hell would mafia leave a claimed lookout alive?
So if Volxen wasn't NK'd, that makes them almost confirmed mafia at the point, which is 2 mafia down in 2 days(which, arguably, is what happened, but not for the same reasons)

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Post Post #2012  (isolation #223)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:50 pm

The mafia would have to be on a whole other level on the stupid meter to not kill the watcher

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Post Post #2014  (isolation #224)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:52 pm

and thats my point as well.

what good would come from bussing his partner D1 and then being lynched anyways D2

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Post Post #2016  (isolation #225)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:53 pm

other fun flavor

They will not stop until our plant is theirs
They will not rest until we are all dead
They have killed many of us
But we are done running
We are all that stands in their way
We know secrets they thought hidden
We have power they didn't expect.
THE TIME HAS COME FOR THEM TO FALL

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Post Post #2018  (isolation #226)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:55 pm

In post 2017, Toranaga wrote:the most likely scenario there would still be volxen getting lynched

someone else dying at night instead of volxen can be explained away by scum fearing the claim is a fake claim and not wanting to kill someone that's always getting watched by the real watcher

it's thin but there are reasons

my argument is that we shouldn't clear sesq for volxen pushing her because there are clear benefits for scum!volxen to play like he did when scum!sesq is the counterwagon.


why would the real watcher watch someone they know is fake claiming?

likely as scum

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Post Post #2021  (isolation #227)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:56 pm

In post 2019, the worst wrote:Era is durnk again

Pedit: totally agree just sort Nauci on Nauci imo
Sesq is a mess to read


I can't drink 0,0

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Post Post #2022  (isolation #228)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:57 pm

In post 2020, Toranaga wrote:
In post 2018, Eragon wrote:
In post 2017, Toranaga wrote:the most likely scenario there would still be volxen getting lynched

someone else dying at night instead of volxen can be explained away by scum fearing the claim is a fake claim and not wanting to kill someone that's always getting watched by the real watcher

it's thin but there are reasons

my argument is that we shouldn't clear sesq for volxen pushing her because there are clear benefits for scum!volxen to play like he did when scum!sesq is the counterwagon.


why would the real watcher watch someone they know is fake claiming?

likely as scum

I wouldn't watch someone who I know is fake claiming.
because I would be like, 90% certain they are scum

if sesq flipped scum, wouldn't you watch volxen n1?

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Post Post #2023  (isolation #229)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:58 pm

where the fuck did the text go?

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Post Post #2024  (isolation #230)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:58 pm

In post 2020, Toranaga wrote:
In post 2018, Eragon wrote:
In post 2017, Toranaga wrote:the most likely scenario there would still be volxen getting lynched

someone else dying at night instead of volxen can be explained away by scum fearing the claim is a fake claim and not wanting to kill someone that's always getting watched by the real watcher

it's thin but there are reasons

my argument is that we shouldn't clear sesq for volxen pushing her because there are clear benefits for scum!volxen to play like he did when scum!sesq is the counterwagon.


why would the real watcher watch someone they know is fake claiming?

likely as scum


if sesq flipped scum, wouldn't you watch volxen n1?

In post 2022, Eragon wrote:
In post 2020, Toranaga wrote:
In post 2018, Eragon wrote:
In post 2017, Toranaga wrote:the most likely scenario there would still be volxen getting lynched

someone else dying at night instead of volxen can be explained away by scum fearing the claim is a fake claim and not wanting to kill someone that's always getting watched by the real watcher

it's thin but there are reasons

my argument is that we shouldn't clear sesq for volxen pushing her because there are clear benefits for scum!volxen to play like he did when scum!sesq is the counterwagon.


why would the real watcher watch someone they know is fake claiming?

likely as scum


if sesq flipped scum, wouldn't you watch volxen n1?


I wouldn't watch someone who I know is fake claiming.
because I would be like, 90% certain they are scum

shit my b lol

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Post Post #2026  (isolation #231)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 7:59 pm

maybe the worts is right.

maybe I am drunk?

somehow?

underage drunk-ness without ever having dranken alcohol before?

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Post Post #2027  (isolation #232)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:00 pm

In post 2000, the worst wrote:if I'm right on Reundo too I want so much bread post-game. x( and that's a fair call, I think my current lack of investment is the death of my charisma which makes everything I do look shonky. :lol:



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chef kitty is coming for you

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Post Post #2028  (isolation #233)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:02 pm

jeezus this flavor actually really works for FM

They know the charm is broken
They know we're vulnerable alone
They are determined to kill us
They want to finish what they started
But they'll have to fight us first
We are joining forces
We are stronger together
We are prepared to sacrifice everything
POWER IN NUMBERS WILL SAVE US ALL


(again, free TC if you know the source)

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Post Post #2030  (isolation #234)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:06 pm

In post 2029, the worst wrote:fakeclaiming as town is pretty frowned upon in MS site culture like I think other sites are more tolerant of fps nonsense but it gains you a policy lynch more often than not here ~_~


shit.

I love fakeclaiming

also, theres this one dude on my homesite that literally always fake claims lookout
its pretty cool though
the last 2 town games I've played with him
1. he was escort, and claimed "lookout" D2 on the person the serial killer killed, and he actually was correct on the serial killer(too bad they weren't lynched)
2. he was citizen, and claimed "lookout" D3 saying this dude was mafia. Got them lynched, he was mafia

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Post Post #2032  (isolation #235)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:07 pm

In post 2031, Toranaga wrote:what's your home site, eragon?

looks cool


town of Salem

most of the people there are shitters, but the games are cool.

like, tbh, if ToS had MS player base, it would be lit

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Post Post #2033  (isolation #236)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:07 pm

this reminds me of a recipe for muffins

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Post Post #2034  (isolation #237)  » Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:09 pm

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Post Post #2042  (isolation #238)  » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:39 pm

Rest in Peace
colonel ducky.

I shall not fail you master.

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also, on that note
Is reundo scum?
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Post Post #2043  (isolation #239)  » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:41 pm

VOTE: Reundo

I believe majority is 3?

maybe 4 if we're lucky

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Post Post #2045  (isolation #240)  » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:42 pm

cool

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Post Post #2046  (isolation #241)  » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:43 pm

the really weird thing is...
im like, super confident on Reundo being scum, but I feel if I went back and read each post individually I would hard townread them

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Post Post #2048  (isolation #242)  » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:52 pm

In post 2047, Toranaga wrote:I've cleared reundo last time I went through his ISO, yes


so who do you think Is scum now?

I can't see Nauci/Rel/You really flipping scum if im being honest with myself

Keyser is like back and forth

Reundo is individually towny but overall I think wolf


Really my PoE right now is just Reundo and Keyser as the wolf

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Post Post #2054  (isolation #243)  » Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:14 pm

Spoiler:
I may not live to see our glory
But I will gladly join the fight
And when our children tell our story
They'll tell the story of tonight
Let's have another round tonight
Let's have another round tonight
Let's have another round tonight
Raise our glass to freedom
Something they can never take away
No matter what they tell you
Raise our glass to the four of us
Tomorrow there'll be more of us
Telling the story of tonight
The story of tonight
I may not live to see our glory
But I will gladly join the fight
And when our children tell our story
They'll tell the story of tonight
Let's have another round tonight
Let's have another round tonight
Let's have another round tonight
Raise our glass to freedom
Something they can never take away
No matter what they tell you
Raise our glass to the four of us
Tomorrow there'll be more of us
Telling the story of tonight
The story of tonight
Let's have another round tonight
Let's have another round tonight
Let's have another round tonight
Raise our glass to freedom
Something they can never take away
No matter what they tell you
Raise our glass to the four of us
Tomorrow there'll be more of us
Telling the story of tonight
The story of tonight
Raise our glass to freedom
They'll tell the story of tonight
Raise our glass to freedom
They'll tell the story of tonight
Raise our glass to freedom
They'll tell the story of tonight
Telling the story of tonight
Let's have another round tonight
The story of tonight

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Post Post #2062  (isolation #244)  » Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:38 pm

In post 2058, Nauci wrote:like let's evaluate the actual thoughts and not when any of us have an extra 4 hours to bang out some mafia essays


agree here.

I aint got shit time to do anything.

just a bit of time on the bus to and from school(and a couple patches like this), which most of the time I do HW

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Post Post #2063  (isolation #245)  » Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:41 pm

In post 2060, Reundo wrote:
In post 2056, Toranaga wrote:saying 3 people are never scum here isn't the sort of confidence you're supposed to have.


You didn't seem to have a problem when Eragon or Nauci did almost the exact same thing. Why is it a problem when I do it?

In post 2056, Toranaga wrote:I don't like that you're stalling yet again instead of posting your thoughts. seems like you're avoiding doing so cause crafting the fake reads will take a lot of effort from you


What thoughts have I avoided sharing? I've already stated my reads yesterday, which haven't changed going into today. At this point it's just a matter of me fleshing them out, which you can't expect me to do at the snap of a finger.

P-EDIT: Thank you, Nauci. That's exactly what I was trying to say.


ill say something on the first part,
I haven't really seen you do much since I replaced in, and not really much on the reads, so I get why it could be weird when your popping on at Daystart saying "these 3 are never scum" I dont think its neccesarily AI, but still different,

Like, Im pretty sure ive had that solid town core for like 1000 posts, and it hasn't really changed, give or take a few

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Post Post #2070  (isolation #246)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:02 am

In post 2068, Keyser Söze wrote:Wellplayed NSG - you were quality this game x

Need a reunion of this playerlist soon.

Hear hear.

To pretty much everyone
In post 2069, Nauci wrote:Someday we'll all Hydra together

It'll be a 300 page game


That will be confusing AF for who is posting what lmao

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Post Post #2111  (isolation #247)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:56 pm

In post 2097, Toranaga wrote:I'm reading d2 SOD and I'm very strong townreading eragon, keyser and I think irrelephant on them. this post:

In post 593, Eragon wrote:19999999999999% confirmed town{Nauci}
Spoiler:
kidding.



{Irrelephant, The worst, Keyser}
{toranaga, nauci}
{Ausuka, NSG}
{dunnstral, Reundo}


right now Im not very confident on the reads themselves, because I haven't had ISO dive time yet.
Basically this is just the strength of my reads, so the top bracket is my strongest town reads(but not, like, confirmed town, or "IMO never ever flips scum town")
second is town reads, but could sort of go either way
Ausuka and NSG are basically null
And dunn and Reundo are both small scum reads, but not very confident in them


eragon pretty much had the game nailed d2 SOD :P


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dont forget about making sure Volxen was the D1 Lynch.

(even though I wasn't caring att if he flipped scum or town, I just knew he was objectively the best Lynch)

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Post Post #2112  (isolation #248)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:00 pm

In post 2076, Irrelephant11 wrote:So fmpov either scum is eragon or one scum bussed the volxen lynch
that challenges some assumptions


you dont think any scum was on the volxen Lynch at all?

also, ftr I never even voted D1 lmao.
that was just Kop's left-over ???? vote.

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Post Post #2113  (isolation #249)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:01 pm

In post 2078, Toranaga wrote:yeah but we townclear his posts on d1, and he got increasingly scummy as the gamedays progressed.

yes he was the first on volxen. yes he cased the fuck out of volxen. but remember the reasons you had for townclearing me and keyser. they're still there. and I'm sure you didn't even ISO either of us to say you're at me/keyser. you're just looking at VCs.


basically this.

I find It very easy(and sadly: fun) to hard-bus a scum partner.

I have a very... lets say interesting... game that involves the entire mafia(5 people) just raging around hard-bussing

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Post Post #2116  (isolation #250)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:16 pm

In post 2114, Toranaga wrote:Image


quality meme

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Post Post #2117  (isolation #251)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:18 pm

In post 2115, Toranaga wrote:I cringe at my play this game tbh


eh you aren't playing bad

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Post Post #2119  (isolation #252)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:20 pm

In post 2118, Toranaga wrote:
In post 2117, Eragon wrote:
In post 2115, Toranaga wrote:I cringe at my play this game tbh


eh you aren't playing bad

o you have no idea


uh oh.

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Post Post #2120  (isolation #253)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:21 pm

why is it that my post count always feels so... low on MS?

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Post Post #2121  (isolation #254)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:22 pm

https://www.blankmediagames.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=88583

look at this thing...

I had 635 posts...

635...

not 25_ something

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Post Post #2122  (isolation #255)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:26 pm

holy shit lol.

I had 890 posts in 4 days as amnesiac-turned sheriff D3(I think it was during N2 that I remembered.)

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Post Post #2124  (isolation #256)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:29 pm

In post 2123, Toranaga wrote:looks like a fun site



fun games.
fun roles.
fun pace.
fun no-apathy
fun 24 hour nights
fun 96-120 hour days max
Stupid playerlists

Like, I would legit die for this playerlist to be in a ToSFM game

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Post Post #2125  (isolation #257)  » Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:31 pm

games on both sites are hard

games here are hard because almost everyone is a good player and hard to read

On ToS games are hard because you never know when people are scum or just being retarded.

I've literally had someone in a closed setup, say, hey, theres4 mafia , without any dead mafia or info from roles, and flip town

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Post Post #2128  (isolation #258)  » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:44 am

In post 2126, Nauci wrote:I'm so sorry guys but I can't handle playing rn with the news triggering panic attacks regularly. I only have the bandwidth for my mod duties which take priority.

@modI'll be V/LA through Monday, but possibly able to post on Saturday.


all good m8.

you deserve a break. you have done well padawan.

:D

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Post Post #2142  (isolation #259)  » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:27 am

I'm willing to end it in about 12 hours.

That would be at like, 7:30 PM my time.

Or I'm also willing to do it tommorw(Sunday) at any time.


I know people can get busy. So I'm willing to leave them an extra ~24 hours or so

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Post Post #2150  (isolation #260)  » Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:48 pm

In post 2149, frozenaga wrote:I think the accusation against brett is of him being at parties were girls were drugged, not that he actively participated in gang rapes, but I only read anything about it today. I'm not really interested either way, so if you say he is a rapist I believe you.


whoops

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Post Post #2151  (isolation #261)  » Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:49 pm

Rest in pieces Toranaga.

with a heart of ice.

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Post Post #2154  (isolation #262)  » Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:51 pm

been there done that.

my first game ever using an alt I slipped D1

my first hydra slipped D3 I think?

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Post Post #2156  (isolation #263)  » Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:53 pm

In post 2155, Toranaga wrote:well I slip constantly but it's usually the other way around


lol

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Post Post #2158  (isolation #264)  » Sat Sep 29, 2018 8:58 pm


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Post Post #2160  (isolation #265)  » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:02 pm

agreed,

although the only album I really really like is the Rise and Fall, Rage and Grace

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Post Post #2162  (isolation #266)  » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:10 pm

they're not bad, but its not like, up there with my favorites

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Post Post #2167  (isolation #267)  » Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:35 pm

In post 2165, Toranaga wrote:Image


FIGHT!

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Post Post #2177  (isolation #268)  » Sun Sep 30, 2018 9:03 pm

This is from reundo:


"This complete 180 on me doesn't make any sense at all, and I feel the only reason he's completely changing his read on me is that it's clear I'm a viable mislynch target and that scum-reading me is the new cool and popular opinion to have. This constant flip-flopping of me being town or scum makes absolutely no sense from town, and neither does his constant flip-flopping of his read on Dunnstral."

what about my flip flops on Keyser?
are those wolfy?
I bring this up because I thought Keyser sounded odd, was told that that was just him, close to locktowned him, and then scumread him heavily, and now(yesterday) TR him

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Post Post #2178  (isolation #269)  » Sun Sep 30, 2018 9:05 pm

also, I find it funny.

Reundo says
"I think Keyser is the scummiest person here, so ill do his ISO first"
>spends forever working on Keyser's ISO.
"Oh Keyser is super scummy how hasn't he been lynched yet"
>does nothing else except just make that single gigantic case on his already-confident scumread

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Post Post #2192  (isolation #270)  » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:52 pm

In post 2183, Irrelephant11 wrote:My gameplan is to continue to let Reundo catch up and post lots of words
Then pick a lynch with Nauci/Eragon
Is it bad that my scummiest read in this moment is Tor :lol:


I agree with letting reundo post
I agree with picking a Lynch with my bros
I disagree the scummiest person is tor, but I dont disagree he can't be scum( I need to re-evaluate)

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Post Post #2193  (isolation #271)  » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:57 pm

In post 2179, Nauci wrote:
In post 2177, Eragon wrote:This is from reundo:


"This complete 180 on me doesn't make any sense at all, and I feel the only reason he's completely changing his read on me is that it's clear I'm a viable mislynch target and that scum-reading me is the new cool and popular opinion to have. This constant flip-flopping of me being town or scum makes absolutely no sense from town, and neither does his constant flip-flopping of his read on Dunnstral."

what about my flip flops on Keyser?
are those wolfy?
I bring this up because I thought Keyser sounded odd, was told that that was just him, close to locktowned him, and then scumread him heavily, and now(yesterday) TR him


I want Reundo to answer in his own words, but I found your read changes narrated with posts that showed your thought processes, while Keyser and TW's did not
ye, I see this, I just wanted to hear why reundo thought this, or if he just ignored what I did because he thinks im not a viable push.

In post 2178, Eragon wrote:also, I find it funny.

Reundo says
"I think Keyser is the scummiest person here, so ill do his ISO first"
>spends forever working on Keyser's ISO.
"Oh Keyser is super scummy how hasn't he been lynched yet"
>does nothing else except just make that single gigantic case on his already-confident scumread


If there's only 1 scum left in the game, and one have one confident scum read, what if it's actually just on scum?

I mean personally, I still think the scummiest player all game has been Keyser for all sorts of psychological reads. I'd say there's a chance it's reundo or toranaga (that thought struck me at like 3 AM last night but I don't have time to re-evaluate for a while), but that it's rather slim.

Keyser, did you still feel that you'd be okay with being lynched so long as reundo was lynched after, like you offered yesteray?

Side note, I wish I had a dollar for every time scum sacrificially offered to be in a lynch-chain. I could buy a foot long sub.


I mean yea, but to me it just felt like, Reundo didnt even TRY to think about Keyser, and that wasn't even my main point.
My main point was that Reundo already had Keyser as their strongest SR, and everyone knew it(well, duh), and they just spent hours(im assuming based on the word dump) ISO diving Keyser just to prove to themselves even more that they think Keyser is scum?
ya hear me?
I can go both ways on Keyser, overall a couple of his posts ping me but their not huge scum tells IMO.
I think I just got biased d2 with conf! bias and both of us SR'ing each other, and I looked for anything to be construed as scummy in the posts I quoted.
I probably need to go re-evalute him too without bias.
lol @the Lynch-chain stuff :3
tbf I have seen town do it, but I do kinda agree?

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Post Post #2194  (isolation #272)  » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:59 pm

In post 2181, Keyser Söze wrote:[I've got 9 days to re-read 4 players though... because if Reundo is town here, this is the last day I'm being town read by you guys :giggle: Even I can admit that]


tbh, if you are town, and you can solve between(or at least give your opinion on) tora/Reundo, I think we are doing pretty good.

Irrelephant obv town.
im me.
I feel Nauci has obv. towned, and they played a very damn good game if they are scum(yes, they same can be said for others, but im babbling)

so IMO its between you(Keyser), tora, and Reundo
leaning in this order
Reundo > Keyser > tora

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Post Post #2195  (isolation #273)  » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:06 pm

In post 2188, Irrelephant11 wrote:I wonder if tw and nsg are shouting at us from the dead thread
who else was in this game? :giggle:

[redacted]
I had some game thoughts above but I removed them because I think the lynchpool needs to share everything they're gonna share before I go into detail...


poor ducky ;_;
may he rest with pieces of bread.

In post 2189, Irrelephant11 wrote:Keyser if you're the watcher I feel confident saying you should claim as soon as Reundo has cased Tor

Image
In post 2190, Keyser Söze wrote:I think this game is all in Reundo’s hands to win or lose (no pressure Reundo!)


Will start looking at Nauci tonight (weekend was mad)


why reundo over anyone else?

In post 2191, Toranaga wrote:I'm trying my best to pay attention to reundo's case against keyser, but almost nothing reundo points as scummy of keyser are things I find scummy and it just seems like reundo is picking on small details on keyser's ISO that can be pushed, instead of trying to determine if keyser is really scum. I'm not saying Reundo is definitely scum, but I don't think his case on Keyser is genuine scumhunting.

I see this too
(on top of the fact I read 2-3 posts of the case then get bored)

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Post Post #2198  (isolation #274)  » Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:30 pm

Agree there for sure

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Post Post #2200  (isolation #275)  » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:33 am

well, if we see Reundo/Keyser as the lynchpool...

and Reundo is 100% backup

why do we bother trying to out whether or not Keyser is backup or watcher???
if he claims backup, whats going to really change? he gets added to the lynchpool? :lol: :lol:
if he claims watcher, then he wouldnt have a chance to catch scum tonight and people would lynch Reundo anyways probably.

i mean, sure, if we decide keyser is the scummier of the two, then we can have him claim as he normally would, but i disagree with having him claim jsut to sort out reundo

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Post Post #2201  (isolation #276)  » Tue Oct 02, 2018 8:33 am

obviously the watcher claims tommorow

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Post Post #2216  (isolation #277)  » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:40 am

sorry ill be able to post on the way home from school.

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Post Post #2217  (isolation #278)  » Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:57 pm

>turns in 3 page essay for a 2-3 page assignment
>teacher says not enough detail
>thinks for a bit, and can’t find any more detail to add
>trashed the essay and is forced to completely rewrite the essay in one night
>can’t play FM

fuck my life

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Post Post #2220  (isolation #279)  » Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:55 pm

Spoiler: Pretty accurate
Define your meanin' of fun
To me it's what we do when we're bored
I feel the heat comin' off of the blacktop
And it makes me want it more
Because I'm hyped up, outta control
If it's a fight I'm ready to go
I wouldn't put my money on the other guy
If you know what I already know
It's been a long time comin'
And the table's turned around
'Cause one of us is goin'
One of us is goin' down
I'm not runnin'
It's a little different now
'Cause one of us is goin'
One of us is goin' down
Define your meanin' of fun
To me it's when we're gettin' done
I feel the heat comin' off of the blacktop
So get ready for another one
Let's take a trip down memory lane
The words circulate in my brain
You can treat this like another all I'm sayin'
But don't cry like a bitch when you feel the pain
It's been a long time comin'
And the table's turned around
Cause one of us is goin'
One of us is goin' down
I'm not runnin'
It's a little different now
'Cause one of us is goin'
One of us is goin' down
This is hardly worth fightin' for
But it's the little petty shit that I can't ignore
When my fist hits your face
And your face hits the floor
It'll be a long time comin'
But you got the message now
'Cause I was never goin'
Yeah, you're the one that's goin' down
One of us is goin' down
It's been a long time comin'
And the table's turned around
Cause one of us is goin'
One of us is goin' down
I'm not runnin'
It's a little different now
'Cause one of us is goin'
One of us is goin' down
One of us is goin' down

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Post Post #2223  (isolation #280)  » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:09 pm

I don't know
I don't know
I don't know anymore
Thought I had
Thought I had it under control

Hear my voice, here it goes
Hear it louder than most
Here it goes, here it goes
(1 2 3 4)


It's not worth it
It's not workin'
You wanted it to be picture perfect
It's not over,
You don't have to throw it away.


So scream if you wanna, shout if you need
Just let it go (take it out on me)
Fight if you need to, smash if it helps you
Get control (take it out on me)
So scream if you wanna, shout if you need
Just let it go (take it out on me)
Fight if you need to, smash if it helps you
Get control

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Post Post #2224  (isolation #281)  » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:10 pm

Sorry I just need some relief from my schedule

Or I might explode inside

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Post Post #2225  (isolation #282)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:54 am

Honestly, let’s just end this

Reundo has 1:41 left on his prod, its unlikely he’ll pick up
And i would rather not bother some poor soul to eonpletely replace into a scummy slot at this point in he game and have to catch up with the people we have left.

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Post Post #2226  (isolation #283)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:55 am

If you want to wait for a replacement, I’m chill with it I guess, it just doesn’t feel like it’ll help much or at all

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Post Post #2228  (isolation #284)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:33 am

welp we are here again

chill

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Post Post #2251  (isolation #285)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:46 pm

In post 2233, Irrelephant11 wrote:on another note I laughed out loud at tor casing himself
I never thought tor was scum I just wanted to see if Reundo would take advantage of my "strongest scumread" and suddenly find tor to be scummier than keyser

@reundo can you explain why you've been so quiet overall?

In post 2229, Keyser Söze wrote:Well if you’re scum you’ve lost.

And if you’re town you’re gonna die too: while your read on Volxen was glorious on D1, since then your pro-active urgency to find scum and reads have been hideous.

I’m not scum.
I was hoping you could turn the game on it’s head. You have invested too much “equity” into one player and not enough looking at the whole playerlist - something that you should have done today as you have been such a distant figure.


FYI: Flip flopping isn’t scummy. And it’s especially not NAI if I keep flip flopping to lynch scum.


I agree here
(With the fact reundo won’t win as scum here)

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Post Post #2252  (isolation #286)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:46 pm

I umm forgot to comment first post

Just LOL or whatever
Same

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Post Post #2253  (isolation #287)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:47 pm

In post 2235, Keyser Söze wrote:VOTE: Reundo :twisted:


The dome of thunder is a continuity of history

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Post Post #2255  (isolation #288)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:48 pm

In post 2236, Keyser Söze wrote:Reundo’s ‘Tora re-read’ became the ‘even more reasons why Keyser Söze is scum re-read’ :giggle:


(—),(—)

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Post Post #2256  (isolation #289)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:49 pm

In post 2241, Irrelephant11 wrote:I think reundo is more likely to flip scum
I think leaving scum!Keyser for mylo is the scarier option


The truth

Do we want to have the best chance of winning RIGHT NOW, with a tough MyLo
Or do we want to have the easiest LyLo IF we are wrong

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Post Post #2257  (isolation #290)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:50 pm

In post 2250, Nauci wrote:
In post 2240, Reundo wrote:I'm not really sure. I guess on a subconscious level I care more about how I come off than I really should, and I think that plays into why I don't post that much. I also think my drive for playing mafia is kind of waning a bit. Like, if I get started on posting then I'd probably spend a good few hours straight analyzing the game, but finding the motivation to actually get started writing something is kind of hard for me. Whenever I try to post something it takes me way longer than it should, like I'd pop in hoping to whip up a quick post in 10 minutes and it ends up taking me an hour for some reason, and the sheer time sink required from me just steers me away from posting in general, and I've had a lot less time on my hands overall than I used to.


Whatever your alignment is, I'm with you on this one.

I have so much trouble casually posting that I'd procrastinate on really playing like it's homework.


but causal posting is the BEST!

Just have FUN!

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Post Post #2258  (isolation #291)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:50 pm

In post 2254, Irrelephant11 wrote:great, eragon and nauci are here
do we lynch keyser the top poster or reundo the bottom poster


Read my other post

Reundo is the risky lynch with the best scumchance

Keyser is the safer lynch with a smaller scumchance

That’s exactly where I stand

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Post Post #2259  (isolation #292)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:52 pm

And back to class I go

;_;

Someone save meeeeee

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Post Post #2296  (isolation #293)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:56 pm

In post 2260, Toranaga wrote:stay strong brother

pay attention to your classes


Fresher,
Like it's the first semester
Rock it like Queen when I'm Under Pressure
While the rest are of these cats all siesta
Get loose like change when its on your dresser
Boom
Here comes the real volume
Had enough to wake up and shake this tomb
I can act like skate decks in concrete rooms
We're about to face what makes this move
People used to tell me that I'm on my own
They said I'd never make a distance on this microphone
Cause there's a million other people who can sing this song
I said thanks for the push, 'cause you are alone
You wanna try to take me under
I'll never bow till I'm six feet under
Listen to the sound of rolling thunder
You can't break me
You'll never take me down

In post 2261, Irrelephant11 wrote:oh wait it's actually just lylo because there isn't a no lynch option
Let's see

If we lynch Reundo and he flips town
Someone claims watcher tomorrow, and they pretty much get to pick the lynch (unless scum is out-there enough to cc, which I doubt)
Keyser, if town & not watcher, has a reaalllll uphill battle to find and lynch scum
Keyser, if scum, has an uphill battle to lynch tor

I'm just gonna interrupt myself to say IF IT'S ERAGON, SO HELP ME

If we flip Keyser and he's town
Reundo just gets lynched, I guess, since he's already claimed backup and is the obvious PoE


Since Reundo's lynch is more inevitable than Keyser's, I think it makes more sense to lynch him today? Plus then we don't have to deal with "oops we outed Keyser the watcher AND Reundo flipped town"
'cause the watcher is our best hope of fixing a mislynch either way

Whatever let's flip Reundo already, in honor of the worst

i agree?
but i feel reundo has more of an uphill battle to stay alive in LyLo/MyLo if Keyser does flip town
ALSO AM I ABLE TO HELP YOU IF I CANT EVEN HELP MYSELF???

In post 2270, Nauci wrote:TBH I kinda just skimmed Reundo's posts but I can't get over the reasons I have for scum reading Keyser

Short list that's probably not comprehensive (am on mobile at a doctor's office because I was accidentally 90 minutes early oops)

-Total lack of calling out Volxen's weird obsession with him (there's like no universe where the town Keyser I know would just ignore this)
-VCA that makes sense as scum: it was too late to jump off of the volxen train by the time he got back to the thread; his changes on dunnstral were
-Weird flip flopping on dunnstral that was very... self conscious
-non-stop defense by saying that things I and others have called him out on are things town would do, totally ignoring their context, INSTEAD of explaining how he arrived at those views
-spent a lot more time actively trying to dictate the game state/pace that far outweighed presenting cases and evidence (which feels pretty similar to his play here)
-I read a lot of Keyser posts I could understand the motivation for in AP and here

Like as far as I can tell, the case y'all have one Reundo is low activity compared to his other game?

But can anyone show me where Keyser's scum read changes ever made sense? Like even his pivot to Reundo after hard town reading him? That pivot was like grossly opportunistic to me. Same with the hard pivot to scum reading TW. All of the pivots were when someone else gave reasons to doubt someone, like when Irrelephant and I questioned TW's posting or when Irrelephant questioned Reundo. Every time we have Keyser + someone else in our bottom 2 he pushes the other player HARD.

Like I just don't see why people town read Keyser besides post count, which is totally non-alignment indicative for him.

P.S. Keyser since you're talking a lot about Reundo being tunneled, what are your reads? Did you ever end up doing the ISO of me you promised like, last weekend or something?


i dont have input on the first, cuz
1. i wasnt really around
2. i dont have a keyser!Meta to look at
second,
I find that part of the read sort of WIFOM-y, because jsut because "he makes sense as scum with that VCA", means really nothing? you hear?
definitely agreed on the flip-flopping, and i beleive i also caslled that out
fourth, i noticed that a couple times too, but thats not really a strong reason to lynch someone
fifth, so more meta, im ignoring that
more meta, which i wont base my read off of, but i can see viability i guess?
On reundo, not neccesarily only low activity, but the fact he seemed normal D1, then just lost all WIM after that and hasnt really done anything, except make "ISO cases" that have done really nothing but prove Keyser "is scum"
I do think the self-preserve was awkward, but i dont feel its Scummy, so-to-speak, but more a red flag
and im not sure how many people are actually townreading keyser? i think its more, "could be scum but Reundo's worse"

In post 2274, Nauci wrote:
In post 2261, Irrelephant11 wrote:oh wait it's actually just lylo because there isn't a no lynch option
Let's see

If we lynch Reundo and he flips town
Someone claims watcher tomorrow, and they pretty much get to pick the lynch (unless scum is out-there enough to cc, which I doubt)
Keyser, if town & not watcher, has a reaalllll uphill battle to find and lynch scum
Keyser, if scum, has an uphill battle to lynch tor

I'm just gonna interrupt myself to say IF IT'S ERAGON, SO HELP ME

If we flip Keyser and he's town
Reundo just gets lynched, I guess, since he's already claimed backup and is the obvious PoE

Since Reundo's lynch is more inevitable than Keyser's, I think it makes more sense to lynch him today? Plus then we don't have to deal with "oops we outed Keyser the watcher AND Reundo flipped town"
'cause the watcher is our best hope of fixing a mislynch either way

Whatever let's flip Reundo already, in honor of the worst


Can you do the exercise of looking at whether Keyser's various vote changes/pushes have made sense to you from a town perspective? If so, can you explain them to me?

Because I absolutely just do not see them, while I very much understand the bits of reundo's posts I've had time to read. I'll go read them now since I"ve got another half hour to burn here lol.

But then I'm out the rest of the day because I'm getting my eyes dilated again lol. BUT SOON I WILL HAVE LASIK AND SEE SUPER GUD (well, theoretically by Oct 20)


Glasses are the key to survival.
i personally would hate lasic because i heard it effects the other type of your vision that is good

In post 2275, Nauci wrote:
In post 2272, Irrelephant11 wrote:if it's keyser, nauci and reundo deserve an award
I unvoted because I'm willing to wait for Keyser to answer Nauci's question


I am not wanting Keyser to answer me though because he has repeatedly shown me that his answer is "but town also does X"

I want YOU and Tor and Eragon to look at my points and try to follow Keyser's narratives and trains of thought

i dont really follow it and i dont think its "towny" but i dont think its as scummy as you think.
i remember one game that i was playing normally and this person called me out for not vote-dropping and that was p.much the only basis for their push, even though i explained it. so some people just have their playstyle that they get called out on, and that could be it. im not arguing that its not "good or towny" though.

In post 2285, Nauci wrote:I TRIED SO HARD

AND GOT SO FAR

but in the end

Still waiting for the doooooctor


It starts with one,
one thing, i dont know why
it doesnt even matter how hard you try
becuase in the end it comes down to fate

In post 2291, Keyser Söze wrote:If Reundo is town the game is already over guys, lynch me or Reundo.

didnt you say that about the worst?
is the game over?
no.
We still have a chance to win even if reundo is town.

In post 2292, Keyser Söze wrote:VOTE: Keyser Soze (for the benefit of those still angling a Keyser counter wagon).

(Will force myself to do one final read with 5 days to go).

if your town, and you think reundo is always scum, why the hell do you self-vote??
IMO this is trying to act non-self-preserving
also, you say if reundo flips town its game over?
what if you flip town?

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Post Post #2321  (isolation #294)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:50 pm

Do you find it weird that someone has less than half the posts of the host

0.0

I’ve honesty never seen that happen lol

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Post Post #2327  (isolation #295)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:30 pm

Nauci
Toranaga
Eragon
Keyser Söze
Irrelephant11
Reundo

6 people.

if the person we Lynch today is town

5 people (4 v 1)
the mafia night kills someone
4 people(3 v 1)

There is a nolynch option there
I wouldn't recommend it, but its there.

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Post Post #2333  (isolation #296)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:44 pm

In post 2331, Toranaga wrote:eragon we've been playing this for a month and you still didn't know we couldn't no-lynch :D


im smert

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Post Post #2334  (isolation #297)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:44 pm

too be fair, I was right that it WOULD work

if it COULD

:3

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Post Post #2336  (isolation #298)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:54 pm

In post 2335, Toranaga wrote:absolutely yeah. we've discussed this too. if we could no-lynch the game would be gruesomely townsided of course.


:mrgreen:

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Post Post #2337  (isolation #299)  » Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:57 pm

I have two things,

1. @Nauci are you currently thinking Reundo is scum, or at least probably scum if Keyser flips tow

2. I dont personally feel Nauci has been Agenda-y, I could maybe see it a little, but also the circumstances I definitely see it being harder to post. AFAICT they have had a busy Game-day(relatable) and I know that when you hardly have time, as town or scum, it makes you wolfier. I can't really explain it much more, but ive definitely seen it happen.

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Post Post #2363  (isolation #300)  » Sun Oct 07, 2018 10:51 am

What meta do I have that you are thinking of?

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Post Post #2365  (isolation #301)  » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:09 pm

:facepalm:

You have my ‘meta’ based off of like half a day of play?

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Post Post #2366  (isolation #302)  » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:10 pm

That’s like saying

“I meta read ____ as town becuase I his D2 play is town and it looks like his play now”

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Post Post #2371  (isolation #303)  » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:14 pm

I don’t know what else to do

Nauci/irrelpehant NEVER flip scum

If I’m correct on my read on Tora, which I believe I am, he is town

And that leaves Reundo and keyser.
I’m pretty sure I’ve already given my thoughts on both of them, and I’m confident it’s game solved

I get really apathetic when I feel comfortable in a solved game

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Post Post #2372  (isolation #304)  » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:15 pm

I suppose I should re-evaluate Tora tho :/

I’ll do it either tonight(game time)

Or if I actually have time I’ll try to do it today

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Post Post #2373  (isolation #305)  » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:16 pm

{Nauci, Irrelpehant, Eragon}

{Tora}




-null




{keyser}





{reundo}

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Post Post #2377  (isolation #306)  » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:30 pm

*waves*

hiya

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Post Post #2383  (isolation #307)  » Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:46 am

just for fun:

Micro 827 just ended while i was scum:

Game: "Eragon wins by doing nothing except getting mad at being scumread for having fun"

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Post Post #2424  (isolation #308)  » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:39 pm

Not watcher

Nauci conf!town then?

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Post Post #2425  (isolation #309)  » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:41 pm

I think Tora was scummy after that hammer, by I don’t see why Tora would kill reundo other for than this exact reason, WIFOM

So I’m not sure if the scum is (Tora/irrelelphant)

If ireelephant is scum they honestly deserves this game

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Post Post #2427  (isolation #310)  » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:50 pm

I’ll be able to respond to thugs at lunch and do ISOS on the bus

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Post Post #2445  (isolation #311)  » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:33 pm

In post 2432, Toranaga wrote:
In post 2425, Eragon wrote:I think Tora was scummy after that hammer, by I don’t see why Tora would kill reundo other for than this exact reason, WIFOM

So I’m not sure if the scum is (Tora/irrelelphant)

If ireelephant is scum they honestly deserves this game


killing reundo works for scum!me too. not only because it creates WIFOM, but also because trying to kill the watcher will either create another watcher (who could have been reundo even) or out me as scum if I get it wrong. imagine I'm working with a POE of you/irrel/nauci for watcher. if I kill nauci and irrel is watcher, he is likely watching her, and vice versa. if I kill you and you're the watcher, we'll have a new inno today which could be reundo and I'm running against nauci/irrel who are townier than I am.

it works even better for you of course, and works perfectly for irrel. if irrel is scum, this is the play. he can't target nauci on the risk of getting outed for it, and he is the most townread slot out of everyone alive so he doesn't need the reundo mislynch.


I didnt even think about that lmao. I agree, the "easy" kill is much more likely to come from someone in a strong TR position, unless thats what scum wants us to think. so its all WIFOM on this? i dont think we should really make notes on what the NK did, because (me/tora/Irrel) are all experience players and had an objectively good game and all are able of making WIFOM-y plugs, so i certainly wouldnt bank the game on that.

In post 2433, Toranaga wrote:I never scumread anything irrelephant did and think his attitude both around the keyser lynch, pushing me for my hammer, and today after the reveal are genuine

I was strong scumreading eragon through most of d2. I'll revisit those posts this gameday.


i agree with you about irrel, but im still going to have to inspect his posts.

In post 2436, Toranaga wrote:check the post numbers so you can see how the wagons progressed

In post 395, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.13

Sesq (5) - Dunnstral , northsidegal , the worst , volxen , Ausuka
volxen (3) - Reundo , Sesq , Keyser Söze
Keyser Söze (1) - Huntress
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant11
Huntress (1) - Eragon

Not voting: Toranaga

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).


In post 411, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.14

volxen (6) - Reundo , Sesq , Keyser Söze , Toranaga , the worst , Ausuka
Sesq (3) - Dunnstral , northsidegal , volxen
Keyser Söze (1) - Huntress
Toranaga (1) - Irrelephant11
Huntress (1) - Eragon

Not voting: N/A

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).

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    - @Keyser Soze: The deadline in this vote count and the first post of the thread are both current and accurate.


id be entirely shocked if no one bussed volxen with a vote.
So, where im at looking at the votes.
Tora was on Volxen, and #4, which is honestly one of the best spots, because its not super early and trying to get them lynched but its not so late it is apparant bussing.
My vote was still from Kop's apparant first vote??? RvS? honestly im not sure??
And if tora is scum then Irrelephant nailed you D1, but if its vice versa then Scum!Irrelephant would rather have a vanity wagon on Tora than vote volxen for towncred? i kinda feel rel would have voted Volxen or stated direct intent the way to day was ending.


In post 2438, Irrelephant11 wrote:Eh Eragon was all "volxen is the play nobody change your votes" at EOD and I offered to hammer
Regardless of which of us is scum volxen was at least bussed in word if not in deed

i agree here, but i find words are less bus-y than actual voting.

In post 2439, Nauci wrote:I am the worst watcher ever

Scum you have outplayed me so hard

I am so sorry guys T_T

I watched Eragon last night thinking there's no way scum would take out the best bet of a mislynch

But I should have guessed because they've been taking out almost every single top mislynch opportunity the whole game

its fine nauci. you have played well either way, even if this game was mostly vanilla, we all had good games.


In post 2441, Nauci wrote:Last scum was much more scared of watcher guilty than of being figured out by town though

However

Kudos because with everyone's tunneling out of the way this should be just the most fascinating last day

KEYSER I'M SORRY

My top suspect for now is Irrelephant11 and I'll try to get to ISOs before end of week.

I agree about the scare, but i dont think thats neccesarily distinguishable, because i think EVERYONE is scared of being caught by watcher going into LyLO? does that make sense?
im hoping that we can get a lot out of this day and win the game here, but it will take a lot of effort from all of us.

In post 2442, Irrelephant11 wrote:I'm ISOing myself for clues :giggle:

In post 1043, Irrelephant11 wrote:Hmmm: Volxen never has any interaction from his side with the Kop[Eragon] slot or Dunnstral, except to welcome Eragon to the game. I think this is mostly meaningless for Eragon, less certain on what it means for Dunnstral, who actively tried to shift people off the volxen wagon early on.


This might be a clue

pedit: I wonder if scum knew that Nauci would think it was me here
ftr Nauci there's no way scum!me takes you to mylo

unless you were worried about being seen by the watcher, right?
because thats the only way i ever envisioned you being lynched.
also, i believe volxen only made like 2-3 posts overall after i had replaced in? and kop only had 14 short posts, so i wouldnt see much interactions anyways?


In post 2444, Irrelephant11 wrote:er, I guess this is lylo
Yeah Nauci there's a 0% chance I continually pass up the opportunity to nightkill you

Not to mention I would have had to bus both my partners which is not my style - and I definitely had my pick of who I wanted to push lynches towards both d1 and d2. You might think I'm trying to change my scum meta to avoid you catching me out but scum!me bussed one of my partners before you were even in the game

Scum!relephant gets to 8-way mylo with both partners alive and you dead, or at least 6-way with dunnstral still alive

Kinda hurt you think this is my new scum meta actually
I recognize that's AtE but it's deserved I feel


This is actually gonna be an uphill battle which is incredibly frustrating given how much work I've already put into this game
As an aside I think I scumread Toranaga's trajectory this game but there's also more points this game from Tora that seem harder to fake as scum
I don't think I have the emotional energy to work more on this right now. This is like simultaneously a fascinating and extremely disheartening endgame


again, nauci was probably the second towniest person in the game, other than you, so i think that is also a strong watcher risk that you wouldnt be able to risk.
i wouldnt really consider bussing/defending volxen AI, especially because from what i remember you werent one of the STRONGEST pushers(please correct me if im wrong) so i dont think bussing that is that hard of a prospect from anyone's perspective.
i dont feel we should read you based on meta at all, as obviously you are a skilled enough player as town OR scum to not fit into meta.
this goes for Tora and I as well, i feel we have outgrown meta s2s.
I do feel you deserve AtE, because if you are town you played a hell of a game and if your scum you played even better, so i dont think its wrong.
im hoping i can easily clear you for some reason, but im paranoid going into this situation, and dont want to be hard-duped.
take your time catching up, i agree this is disheartening with the difficulty, but i feel we need to stand strong and push through the apathy of the last few days.

I have felt confident in this game being solved for a long time, so i admit i was very apathetic.
Going into this Endgame LyLo, with 4 great players, i am honestly happy with how this turned out, and this game was amazingly fun no matter the result, so i have good WIM for this game, and a desire to win. But Win/Lose, this game was amazing.

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Post Post #2450  (isolation #312)  » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:41 pm

In post 2448, Nauci wrote:Irrelephant11 I guess we're town block because I refuse to believe you'd let dunnstral die like that

Thinking hats on!


so your willing to lock-town irrel here?

im honestly fine with losing to irrel because i dont think anyone even had a doubt until very end-game


if your fine with towning rel here at least i know who the scum is FMPOV

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Post Post #2451  (isolation #313)  » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:42 pm

In post 2449, Nauci wrote:I extremely regret not faking watcher results


that would have been fun :3

i think i said earlier this game theres a dude on my forum who always fakes lookout(watcher) and one time he caught serial killer D2 as escort(faking lookout) but sadly let it go
and another game as citizen he faked lookout and "caught" scum N2, and they flipped scum.

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Post Post #2461  (isolation #314)  » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:53 am

In post 2460, Nauci wrote:I want to say Eragon was the most apathetic about solving yesterday when he was absolutely not in danger of being lynched (I mean, I'm in full blown burnout and still tried to at least case Keyser?)

am I remembering correctly?


ye/.

i was apathetic and i admit to being apathetic because i was confident in a solved gamr

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Post Post #2462  (isolation #315)  » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:57 am

In post 2457, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 2456, Nauci wrote:RNGESUS


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Okay I'll have energy for this today
But also I need to focus on IRL things more than usual so I'll be back
First thought is eragon's ISO is much shallower and his reaction to you calling me locktown is odd

what about it is odd?
im willing to mostly trust Nauci here if they believe you are fully town, because i believe you are either town or deserve the win

In post 2458, Nauci wrote:
In post 2425, Eragon wrote:So I’m not sure if the scum is (Tora/irrelelphant)


good catch, Rel

this is indeed odd


:nerd: :?:

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Post Post #2463  (isolation #316)  » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:58 am

In post 2459, Nauci wrote:wait I missread

but that statement was odd nonetheless


why is the statement above odd?

it shows that thats the people im looking at today,

it might be stating the obvious a little, but ... why is it odd?

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Post Post #2484  (isolation #317)  » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:32 am

The shame is real.

Tbh I completely forgot about MS for like 2 days b/c school/had a golf tournament yesterday, and I didn’t remembr it until I got the Email :/

I have another tournament today but I should be able to post after I get back home

I’m working on trying to lower the amount of games I play in at once jsut because it’s so hard to keep up with hem all and still do adequate in school. I’m still in 5, hoping to be in 4 or 3 soon.

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Post Post #2506  (isolation #318)  » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:37 pm

In post 2497, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 2496, Irrelephant11 wrote:
Eragon
Reasons to Scumread:
> Dunnstral and volxen both treated him consistently with the way they treated each other
---> Dunnstral soft defended both him and volxen d1 and was otherwise pretty quiet (sidenote: dunnstral did this for tor D2)
---> volxen ignored both the dunnstral and kop/eragon slots entirely
> lolposting as late into the game as last game day. Post count probably decreases dramatically if you remove every joke-y post
> Very careful with his votes
> Kop and Eragon both got prodded before this game day, unlike Tor

Reasons to townread:
> Always felt pretty reasonable
> Townread Kop

Toranaga
Reasons to scumread:
> Flip-flopped on Dunnstral D2 in an opportunistic way
> Scumread Poseidon
> NSG thought Tor was scum, and it's NSG
> Ausuka was really sure of it too for all of d2 (sidenote: was also willing to vote Eragon by EOD2)
> is pretty scummy after starting that game day with "irdk who it is"
> is also pretty scummy on its own
> Huntress kill makes more sense as a Toranaga/dunn team kill than an eragon/dunn team kill

Reasons to townread:
> volxen and Toranaga wanted each other dead before it was certain either of them would get a wagon
> Toranaga shifted wagon movement onto volxen near EOD
> Highest post count in the game for a player which a meta skim says post count is AI
>
>Swung his votes wherever his reads moved
> is towny in retrospect, given he was either protecting *only himself* (not Dunnstral) or was accurately aiming at *both scum*

Question marks????
> , votes dunnstral after Ausuka and Keyser already had done so with the caption "scummy posting imo"
> Started this game day with "I think it's Nauci"


@Nauci quote and add things until we have all the puzzle pieces filled in


1. volxen only made 1-2 posts after i replaced in, so i dont think you can get much "treatment" from those
2. i do see a bit of the soft defense for kop, but for the same reason i see the reasons? if i saw someone being called out for something with commas, i would A) laugh; B) laugh; C)chainsaw/defend them as any alignment.
3. kop had about 14 ?content? posts and volxen only made 2 posts(or something small like that) after i replaced in so again i dont think that you can get "entirely ignored" that slot from that.
4. lol-posting is NAI. in Micro 827(granted i was scum) NSG called me out for lol-posting and i got super tilted and pretty much quit on the game because it was so retarded. I play FM to have fun, be happy, do cool things, and hopefully lynch scum. Im not super serious or uptight like some people, i like to post gifs/memes/cute pictures and p.much anyone who legit scumreads me for that should stop playing FM/makes me want to punch them.
5. i am normally careful with votes, i view votes as a weapon not a tool.
6. Life sux m8. i get prodded as town too.

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Post Post #2507  (isolation #319)  » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:39 pm

In post 2480, Nauci wrote:
In post 2477, Toranaga wrote:so you guys do the reading, I'll sit back and enjoy not having to do that

:sunglasses:


So you both lock town Irrelephant11? Why?


im pretty sure ive explained that if irrelphant is actually scum, they deserve the win for playing perfectly, and without suspicion, and also i just have townread 85% of their posts, and those 15% that i dont are because i either didnt read them or didnt think about them.

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Post Post #2508  (isolation #320)  » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:40 pm

In post 2487, Nauci wrote:Sorry I'm like ultra busy right now will post tomorrow

I want to see Eragon and Tora actually case each other instead of POE :p


ill do it tommorow if i have time on the bus, i only have a few minutes rn, so no time

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Post Post #2511  (isolation #321)  » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:09 am

In post 2509, Nauci wrote:I'm leaning eragon thus far

Oddly enough I think Tora being paranoid I'm scum was rather town


i mean, once you were confirmed watcher its not really good to SR you, and by the time i got back to the thread the only 2 people to claim were us, meaning you were confirmed watcher already.

if you werent confirmed watcher i probably would have been suspicious as well.

Tora conf!towned you after you were confirmed watcher as well.


i dont think that is AI at all.

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Post Post #2512  (isolation #322)  » Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:11 am

In post 2510, Nauci wrote:Irrelephant, what did you think about Dunnstral's treatment of NSG when she was talking about Kop's posts having an odd cadence? Potential chainsawing?


i gave a response to it, already, but why not again?

i do see the defense, and i can see where you are coming with the read, but what i also know is that i would have done the same exact thing as town or scum, because it was stupid. I find anything being pushed about semantics or how you say it is normally being pushed by scum or really bad town. I would have defended kop just the same if i felt that NSG was kinda thinking that kop was scum based on commas or some shit.

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Post Post #2531  (isolation #323)  » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:22 pm

Spoiler:
It starts with one thing
I don't know why
It doesn't even matter how hard you try
Keep that in mind
I designed this rhyme
To explain in due time
All I know
Time is a valuable thing
Watch it fly by as the pendulum swings
Watch it count down to the end of the day
The clock ticks life away
It's so unreal
Didn't look out below
Watch the time go right out the window
Trying to hold on, but you didn't even know
Wasted it all just to watch you go
I kept everything inside
And even though I tried, it all fell apart
What it meant to me
Will eventually be a memory of a time when
I tried so hard
And got so far
But in the end
It doesn't even matter
I had to fall
To lose it all
But in the end
It doesn't even matter
One thing, I don't know why
It doesn't even matter how hard you try
Keep that in mind
I designed this rhyme
To remind myself of a time when
I tried so hard
In spite of the way you were mocking me
Acting like I was part of your property
Remembering all the times you fought with me
I'm surprised it got so
Things aren't the way they were before
You wouldn't even recognize me anymore
Not that you knew me back then
But it all comes back to me in the end
You kept everything inside
And even though I tried, it all fell apart
What it meant to me will eventually be a memory of a time when
I tried so hard
And got so far
But in the end
It doesn't even matter
I had to fall
To lose it all
But in the end
It doesn't even matter
I've put my trust in you
Pushed as far as I can go
For all this
There's only one thing you should know
I've put my trust in you
Pushed as far as I can go
For all this
There's only one thing you should know
I tried so hard
And got so far
But in the end
It doesn't even matter
I had to fall
To lose it all
But in the end
It doesn't even matter


im trying to find time to do stuff, but im just swamped to the neck.
im HOPING that I can defend/do ISO on the way back home from school tommorow if I dont have too much HW, but its just really hard to promise anything right now.

If it wasn't LyLo and I didnt have so much ingrained and invested into this game(At the start) I probably would have replaced out.

im really really sorry I can't be around more, just this sophomore year of high school is going like a whirlwind taking 4/7 honors/AP and trying to make varsity golf

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Post Post #2541  (isolation #324)  » Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:17 pm

its the weekend finally.

i should hopefully have time to post this weekend

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Post Post #2544  (isolation #325)  » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:45 am

Fucking damnit I forgot about this game again


Not that I had a ton of time to do anything but that’s beside he point


I don’t think I have time to post tommorow

I have a golf tourney, 15 god-like drawings to do by Monday, and the rest of shit tommorow

Honestly idgaf about this game anymore

Win/lose I had fun while it was going on and I just don’t really feel into it anymore as well as me trying to cut back on FM.

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Post Post #2545  (isolation #326)  » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:46 am

I’m not gonna self hammer cuz I don’t want to do that to you Nauci/irrel but I don’t really see a scenario where you pick Tora over me



Your choice

I’m letting you follow through this game.


Win it for us

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Post Post #2549  (isolation #327)  » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:43 pm

Spoiler:
Look out, they're closing in on you now
Wake up, or you'll wake up six feet down
Nobody's got your back in this town
Knock em in the teeth now
Out here there's no negotiation
No room to start a conversation
Before you get a taste it's taken
Never let ya guard down

Get back, put your hands up
Kinda messed up, but it's tough luck
And I'm sorry, but I don't feel bad for you
Cause I know if, you could switch this
You'd be dishin' out the same shit, sayin' sorry, but I don't feel bad

Now I know
There's no one I can trust
I used to think there was
Tell me that I'm cut throat
I think your got your eyes closed
Feel the fear
And swallow back the tears
Let weakness disappear
There's nobody but me here
The killer in the mirror

Killer in the, killer in the, killer in the mirror
Killer in the, killer in the, killer in the mirror

Where did, all of the good people go?
They hide, behind the bars on windows
In hopes, they can forget we're close
Tryna get some of what they've got
Cause I, used to believe in justice
A place, where there was better judgment
But now, I'm feeling so disgusted
By the have it's and the have nots

Get back, put your hands up
Kinda messed up, but it's tough luck
And I'm sorry, but I don't feel bad for you
Cause I know if, you could switch this
You'd be dishin' out the same shit, sayin' sorry, but I don't feel bad

Now I know
There's no one I can trust
I used to think there was
Tell me that I'm cut throat
I think your got your eyes closed
Feel the fear
And swallow back the tears
Let weakness disappear
There's nobody but me here
The killer in the mirror

Killer in the, killer in the, killer in the mirror
Killer in the, killer in the, killer in the mirror

Knock em in the teeth now
Never let ya guard down
Get some of what they've got
Have it's and the have nots
Knock em in the teeth now
Never let ya guard down
When they step in your house
Knock, knock, knock em all the fuck out!

Now I know
There's no one I can trust
I used to think there was
Tell me that I'm cut throat
I think your got your eyes closed
Feel the fear
And swallow back the tears
Let weakness disappear
There's nobody but me here
The killer in the mirror

Killer in the, killer in the, killer in the mirror
Killer in the, killer in the, killer in the mirror
Feel the fear
And swallow back the tears
Let weakness disappear
There's nobody but me here
The killer in the mirror
Killer in the, killer in the, killer in the mirror
Killer in the, killer in the, killer in the mirr

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Post Post #2552  (isolation #328)  » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:15 pm

you know what.

fuck this apathy

fuck this game

i can't do this to you nauci/irrel
its not fair to you who actually tried in endgame and throughout the entire game for me to just roll over and let us lose.

Ima kick school to the curb for the next day or two(I'll still focus but w/e) and help prove this game

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Post Post #2555  (isolation #329)  » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:01 pm

Spoiler: Page 1 of tora's IS)
In post 165, Toranaga wrote:
In post 104, volxen wrote:
In post 22, GameNBurger wrote:Also nobody dare TR me for that I did a bunch of shitty math only to come to the conclusion that its business as usual as far as claiming goes
in my last game a bunch of people town read me simply for effort and It blew my fucking minds as to why
I put up with it because I was town and people were having a hard time reading me but I'd like to get it out there that effort is not a one to one correlation with scuminess
a lack of effort is a good indicator of scum but a presence of effort does not indicate town

Anyways let that be a lesson to never do gametheory math late at night because youre bound to make idioitic mistakes, theres still a not great part of the stupidly simple model i used that doesn't account for the fact that T contains M in it, I should have broken it into P=t+M for more generalized use to make the death equation a bit easier to see the relationships


Why did you feel the need to "remind" us not to townread you for posting a mathematical proof? I find it a bit odd to automatically assume that people would give you free towncred just for that one early game contribution. I get your point about people making the mistake of townreading based on effort alone, but I really don't think it was necessary to explicitly say that you don't deserve towncred for sharing a mathematical proof.


ok, and so what? do you townread it, scumread it, null read it? who cares if it's unnecessary? is it scummy?


this is a very thin read, but from the very start, the fact that there is no daychat could mean that he is signaling volxen to see what Volxen's plan is and how hes gonna do the reads.

In post 166, Toranaga wrote:volxen/sesq/271 all fine lynches



Rule of 3's?
throws in noob!scum, and 2 town as lynches

In post 190, Toranaga wrote:keyser, idk man, I lost interest with this game cause nobody is playing it

half the slots are scummy so idek where to vote

then says half the slots are scummy, when he only wants to lynch 3

In post 337, Toranaga wrote:
In post 278, the worst wrote:@mod any chance of a deadline extension? :good:

this is already the towniest motherfucker on the planet


this feels like a pocket, i dont really see how an extension would be so good and towny for asking, because thats an easy fake, so Tora either is pocketing the worst or vice versa

In post 400, Toranaga wrote:I ISO'd sesq and it's a lot of self contradictory posting that IDK if it's scummy or towny or what


this is very fencesitty, and its a way to leave Sesq's wagon as an option w/out having to be seen as a main pusher.

In post 539, Toranaga wrote:
In post 538, Keyser Söze wrote:Toranaga, bad news.. during my re-read I had you down as the scum partner who bussed Volxen :(

Do you want me to talk through the scum narrative I have in my head?

nah, I know my reads are so good it feels like TMI

lynch me ahead bro


this just feels like deflection, instead of wondering whats the reason and (maybe) worried that he'll be seen as the busser, he just says "nah i know my reads are just too good"

In post 546, Toranaga wrote:it's TORanaga

TOR

not taranaga

I can take being called toranga, but not taranaga

ok now onto your thing

"
Taranaga name drops his scum partner’s name and two other viable wagons.
Does not go into detail or present his scum case on any of them."

UNEXPLAINED READS? MUST BE A WOLF. you saw how volxen explained every single thing he thought or saw in the game, right? and what did he flip? yup.

"
Taranaga asks this question to Volxen: it’s a very non-aggressive/rhetorical question you would ask your scum partner. I suspect it was soft-distancing."

I'm getting around the idea that this is a wolf making pointless reads/questions etc there. it felt like fake work and I wanted to see what he'd respond to it. this isn't distancing, this is me smelling wolf from his post.

the rest of it I can't really respond to. I'm not in the mood to read this until I need to and I don't need to.

"
hey Taranaga, please give me a rating for a) effort b) believability c) sincerity"

a for effort
b for delivery
a for sincerity

I'm locktowning you for trying to case me, it's really cute from you


locktowning from casing is ??? and i think its to stop keyser from actually voting/casing Tora, because its harder to scumcase people townreading you than people scumreading you

In post 551, Toranaga wrote:VOTE: dunnstral

scummy posting imo


doesnt explain whats scummy, just goes "scummy posting" and votes, and later goes through DUNNSTRAL's ISO and calls it TOWNY.

i charge you of 3rd degree distancing.

In post 605, Toranaga wrote:alright dunn

I ISO'd you and didn't think it was too bad. there's some towny moments like making fun of NSG and asking a bunch of seemingly relevant questions while providing no follow up. little towny things here and there.

you seem only focused on ausuka this gameday and I can't townread anything this shallow.


"theres some towny things and then little towny things here yada yada yada"
after saying dunn was posting scummy...
feels like backing off from bussing

In post 606, Toranaga wrote:I'm gonna townread dunn's last post cause he is attacking my perspective on mafia in general other than read/my alignment or whatever

it's just a towny thing to do


attacking your mafia perspective is towny?????
thats the first i heard, this is just reaching for a reason to give a strong TR to dunnstral

In post 614, Toranaga wrote:
In post 230, Flicker wrote:Votecount 1.08

volxen (4) - Reundo , Irrelephant11 , Sesq , Keyser Söze
2 718281828459 (1) - Kop
Dunnstral (1) - northsidegal
Reundo (1) - Ausuka
Sesq (1) - Dunnstral
[GameNBurger] (1) - volxen

Not voting: [GameNBurger], Toranaga , 2 718281828459

The deadline for Day 1 is 1:52 pm CT on Tuesday, September 4, in (expired on 2018-09-04 14:51:53).


what a beautiful vc. this wagon feels pure. I didn't read irrelephant or reundo to any depth but the posts keyzer soze mentioned are a great look for reundo who seemed to be onto volxen from the very beginning and for all the correct reasons why he was a wolf (the superficial highly descriptive posting that never really went anywhere). keyser is very towny and I think sesq is town for a lot of added up thin reads on both players in that slot.

alright good start.


and the wagon was pure, is it TMI? especially saying that he didnt read rel/reundo and still called them pure.

In post 620, Toranaga wrote:VOTE: ausuka

let's do this dunn

you and me baby


after saying dunn had wolfy posting and then towny posting, just sheeps dunnstral on Ausuka...

In post 649, Toranaga wrote:
In post 647, Keyser Söze wrote:Came into D2 thinking Toro-Dunn (but they’re both united over scum-Ausuka, who in turn doesn’t town read them! how perfect :twisted: ) so this is going to be an interesting day. So I’m now sat here with my popcorn, waiting to see the uncensored interactions between those players (so far they’ve talked about eachother, but not engaged one another).

maybe tora but I think dunn is town mate


p.much scumclaiming and giving dunn a higher read than himself.

i know its probably a joke, but sometimes jokes have effect.
if you claim scum as a joke, is it a joke or real???

In post 660, Toranaga wrote:
In post 657, Irrelephant11 wrote:My last thought (about Toranaga) got me thinking about how the wagon on volxen happened and I went back and found this

In post 399, the worst wrote:hot take: we need to hammer Sesq who will do nothing to defend themselves or flashwagon volxen who is one rung townier and will become extremely obvious later if scum

:]


Which, given scum don't have day chat, is VERY INTERESTING.
If volxen "will become extremely obvious later if scum", why be concerned about lynching him now? (wagon movement was still more toward sesq, who tw says here is scummier)
Unless he's trying to hint to his scum buddy that it's time to bus

Toranaga immediately followed it up with the move to vote volxen, which tw followed. Tor has tried to claim towncred for them both this game day, and has since lampshaded "inb4 partners" which, admittedly, would be bold, but would also make anyone who called them partners look a little silly

Any thoughts on this? tw has come across as feeling v towny in tone but I can't get over the combo of
-GNB's weirdness
-volxen's long, drawn out nullread of the slot
-tw's TMI of the lynch

And then Toranaga
-Has directed attention off-wagon without reasoning
-Has lots of interactions with tw that are really very friendly and (significantly) once tw joined the game Tor was much more interested in playing

Tor was also pretty scummy last game day imo (see: Keyser's case, which was mostly ignored?)

Thoughts anyone? They happen to both be independently possible scum but ISO the two of them + GNB and see if you see what I see

For now I'll start with VOTE: Toranaga

pedit: hi sorry :lol:


Image


same as above, the faking "Scumclaiming" seems as a way to show "scum would never act like they are caught just cuz someone scumreads you"

In post 661, Toranaga wrote:when have I directed attention off wagon though? I came in, read the wagons, thought volxen was scummier and booya it was scum

the crowd goes wild woohoo


this seems like going overboard with trying to get towncred for helping get volxen lynched.

In post 662, Toranaga wrote:everyone casing me is town

how about that read brothers and sisters


i said this earlier, this state of mind is wolfy AF and very pocket-y

In post 676, Toranaga wrote:
In post 355, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 239, Ausuka wrote:VOTE: volxen

In post 345, Ausuka wrote:Hi duckling.

VOTE: sesq

Probably a decent vote tbh my tr on them kind of feels like it was probably an inaccurate shitread.


Joining around 4th/5th on both wagons without any explanation


here

sheep this god of mafia

dunn you're so good with this ausuka push

the fuck was I thinking misreading you as a wolf


this just reads weird, "the fuck was i thinking misreading you as a wolf"
i mean, bringing attention to this just is a bit "oh no im so bad at reading your obvious town" with giving reasonings like "thats a good push"
Tora's interactions with dunnstral are extremely telling

In post 722, Toranaga wrote:
In post 714, Ausuka wrote:
In post 699, Toranaga wrote:I'll let someone else do it cause it's a lot of long complicated posting that'd require too much from me lol

I just dropped by to say ausuka has literally dropped the 3 names pushing her the hardest as her top scumreads

it's OMGUSing so hard that it's probably the first time I use the term seriously

This is also horrible, and ignores the fact that a) I was scumreading Dunnstral from before he voted me and b) town are naturally inclined to suspect people pushing them. Like in this case scum are legitimately on my wagon because the push on me is awful but even if they're not any townie is often inclined to say people pushing them is town. Honestly I think Toranga is far too experienced to not know this.

I'm townreading everyone that thinks I'm scum other than you cause I know you're doing this out of desperation. you're just scumreading everyone that scumreads you lol. and dunn is town so you're 100% wrong on all the reads.


or your trying to keep the lynch option open instead of calling ausuka town

In post 744, Toranaga wrote:
In post 22, GameNBurger wrote:Also nobody dare TR me for that I did a bunch of shitty math only to come to the conclusion that its business as usual as far as claiming goes
in my last game a bunch of people town read me simply for effort and It blew my fucking minds as to why
I put up with it because I was town and people were having a hard time reading me but I'd like to get it out there that effort is not a one to one correlation with scuminess
a lack of effort is a good indicator of scum but a presence of effort does not indicate town

Anyways let that be a lesson to never do gametheory math late at night because youre bound to make idioitic mistakes, theres still a not great part of the stupidly simple model i used that doesn't account for the fact that T contains M in it, I should have broken it into P=t+M for more generalized use to make the death equation a bit easier to see the relationships


aaaaaaand gamenburger is already never scum because he is lecturing no one in particular on how townreading him for effort is wrong, before anyone said anything.

also I find his watcher claiming content something that doesn't even go through scum head in the first place... it's one thing to say a bunch of LAMIST-y stuff just to get townread. this man is going depths to understand how to best play the set up.

so yeah that's yet another evidence that the worst is pretty much always town here.


i agree here, but if your so confident in TW!town, why were you fine with him being lynched D3(iirc you were fine with it)

In post 773, Toranaga wrote:yeah sure, why not?

did you notice when I voted volxen? you're scumreading me when you did read the game which is probably much worse


brings up the fact that he VOTED VOLXEN YET AGAIN

In post 782, Toranaga wrote:
In post 781, the worst wrote:
In post 770, Ausuka wrote:duckling why do you townread toranga so much?

his reaction to my entrance pinged town, he's quite organically reached a few of the same thoughts I have and I think his fluctuations in energy levels are pretty genuine from him.

legit starting to t/tread u two as well

so good at mafia, this kid

I'll literally let you tell me which one of dunn/ausuka is best today, I think you're leaning dunn and that's fine by me tbh

I did like his ausuka wolfread a lot on d1/today and I like that he mocked NSG as a towny thing to be doing


the first sentence sounds like extreme pocketing, and the second is also pocketing but also the switch on Dunn again, he had been saying Dunn's clear town just a couple posts before,

In post 859, Toranaga wrote:keyser/duckling always town too, right?

I hope so

and is fine lynching duck

In post 967, Toranaga wrote:wouldn't town!northsidegal be completely sure someone is scum already?

wouldn't she be building these beautiful walls of literature about it?

where is all of it? where is any of it?


scumreading someone because they havent found scum(FTPOV) is extremely shallow and reachy.

In post 979, Toranaga wrote:I agree dunn backtracking on his ausuka scumread is towny of dunn, idk what that means re: svs tvs svt or anything. it's a good look for him regardless and I think based off d1 the way dunn shaded ausuka doesn't really happen as a svs interaction at all.

calls dunn towny AGAIN

In post 1028, Toranaga wrote:ok lets lynch dunn, sure

but if it's town

aus/nsg is still where I'm at

VOTE: dunnstrall


and then votes dunn with intent to hammer(in a different post) which i find wolfy compared to the fact he had strongly been TR'ing dunn

In post 1045, Toranaga wrote:VOTE: northsidegal

not voting anything else today. I read another 10 posts from her ISO and none of them are towny, many are scummy. it's literally just blending in without a single post that indicates an actual attempt at solving the game. her progressions are non existant, her scum reads are empty, her town reads are blend, this isn't NSG's town game and IDC what your meta is. anyone can make 64 air balloons in posting form as scum, even the person who hates scum the most. IDK what the hell are you guys seeing here, I really don't.

sorry if wrong, don't think so.


says hes not voting anywhere else, but ends up hopping on the dunn wagon, probably for towncred of ANOTHER bus



In post 1053, Toranaga wrote:dunn is totally scum, his ISO is horrible


this is REEAALY wierd especialyl after having such a hard town read on Dunn, pretty much like a "told you so"
In post 1091, Toranaga wrote:ok, real talk

anyone scumreading dunnstral needs to read him shading the volxen wagon when it was L-2 and actually pushing people who voted there. is this in his scum range? because this is objectively towny. a player's first instinct while watching a wolf team mate go down, is to distance themselves from it. universally. dunn is not only not doing that, but actively pushing people with good reasoning behind it. this does not seem like he knows volxen is scum at all.

[spoiler=]
In post 244, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 220, Reundo wrote:I don't really understand the town-reads of volxen. Everything he's posted seems like surface-level scum-hunting based mostly around points that have already been brought up by others, and as a whole it seems like he's much more interested in garnering why player X scum-reads player Y than providing scum-reads of his own. I'm more worried about him than 2.718 at the moment.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: volxen

In post 221, Irrelephant11 wrote:VOTE: volxen

In post 222, Sesq wrote:Yeah, i can see that

VOTE: volxen

In post 224, Keyser Söze wrote:VOTE: volxen

:twisted:

In post 239, Ausuka wrote:VOTE: volxen


This momentum is pretty weird - I don't think Reundo's case in 220 is that compelling. Sesq looks bad here.

In post 245, Dunnstral wrote:Who was town reading Volxen?

In post 246, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 222, Sesq wrote:Yeah, i can see that


Can you point it out for me?


In post 285, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 246, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 222, Sesq wrote:Yeah, i can see that


Can you point it out for me?


Now would be a good time to explain this Sesq


In post 353, Dunnstral wrote:Still think sesq is question dodging

Ausuka votes are kind of weird, though


and then he townreads dunn again, and then votes dunn again at EoD

In post 1252, Toranaga wrote:I'll maintain that both wolves are in ausuka/nsg/dunn and if we kill all of them we win the game most of the time

if you wanna lynch dunn this gameday, I'm not gonna stop you.


here is another rule of 3's, and he is fine with dunn lyncheven with his "strong TR"

In post 1268, Toranaga wrote:yeah idk man

I think dunn gets lynched regardless of this read on him

I think with you that at least 3 if not more people, that think the way he defended volxen doesnt really happen as svs. I'm the one who initially postulated this idea ITT and I think it's correct, but it's absolutely very very thin and his attitude/posts outside of that are not towny. it's quite the hero read given the context where dunn is just potatoing the game really hard.

I absolutely don't understand anything on your paragraph about NSG. also I think between her and ausuka, ausuka is a lot townier and the town between the two if there is one town between the two.


i think town!Tora would try to save someone he strongly TR's[/spoiler]

-the assocations with Dunn are absolutely horrid, he completely flips back and forth with the read, calls it scum/town/scum/town calls it hard town and doesnt try to save it at EoD
theres more, read the post
-he claimed scum technically, it could be a joke, but also its probably deflection and WIFOM, "scum wouldn't claim scum saying they were caught cuz one read"
-keeping his mislynch options open, like when he townread EVERYONE EXCEPT AUSUKA for casing him????
-pocketing, much with TW
-townreading people casing him because it makes it less likely for them to strongly push him

thats the main gist of page 1, probably some more in my wall i forgot to note here, but yeah

these are extremely telling

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Post Post #2556  (isolation #330)  » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:01 pm

the fuck happened with that quote

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Post Post #2557  (isolation #331)  » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:05 pm

In post 2550, Toranaga wrote:got prodded so lol

let me put the nail in the coffin and seal this game for us, win or lose

what eragon just posted here was scummy and needs death

he is treating irrel as conftown when he is not, and he is doing that while putting zero work in the game this gameday. the self hammer part is senseless to be something he is thinking of doing when he is town, and pointing it out just feels to me like he is adding layers to his scum!eragon AtE. the whole "idgaf" thing just doesn't feel genuine, does it? yeah maybe rl is taking over, it happened to me too, but "honestly idgaf about this game anymore"? why even say that? and now, 102 pages in after so many dead people worked so hard for town to win this. he is gonna say he doesn't give a fuck? I call it scum.

alright if I'm wrong I'm wrong, let's kill eragon and figure it out yes nauci?


ill respond to this post singly because its on the same page rn

Yes i am treating irrel as conf!town until i can do things and get a read, and i am 99% confident they are town, ever since beginning of the game.
isnt the "self-hammer" stuff also senseless as scum? plus the fact i said i would do it but 1. its gamethrowing and 2. nauci/irrel dont deserve it, shows i wasnt really serious, and you pushing over this is reachy AF.
idgaf was perfectly true, and i do believe i explained why i said that, because i had had fun during the game, and didnt want to ruin it in end-game with a bunch of shit/hate

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Post Post #2560  (isolation #332)  » Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:20 am

im tired and i did have a fuck ton of homework today but ill do the next page/maybe next next page tommorow evening

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Post Post #2568  (isolation #333)  » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:29 am

VOTE: Toranaga

i cant let town lose without even trying to change the wagons

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Post Post #2576  (isolation #334)  » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:12 pm

Rip

If I had killed irrel I woulda won lmao

I was too worried about watcher and if irrel was watcher or watcher was on irrel

Then I just freaked out in maf chat and killed reundo


Well played town, this was areally fun game(while I was actually playing it)

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Post Post #2578  (isolation #335)  » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:16 pm

In post 2577, Irrelephant11 wrote:Idk Nauci would have been cleared town and she had Reundo as locktown as much as she had me as locktown, it still would have been a battle
But yes I will take credit for making sure you were the lynch :D
I thought I accidentally made it obvious I wasn't watcher when I told Keyser to claim when we were all still deciding between keyser & reundo
Also the way I was nearly swayed by volxen's D1 watcher claim for like 5 minutes

But I did indeed expect watcher to go on either me or nauci. Well played eragon! You soaked up towncred so subtly for so long, for things that didn't really earn you towncred! lol


I know lol

I was wondering how it was so easy to be tiwnread

^_^

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Post Post #2586  (isolation #336)  » Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:30 pm

In post 2584, volxen wrote:
In post 2576, Eragon wrote:Rip

If I had killed irrel I woulda won lmao

I was too worried about watcher and if irrel was watcher or watcher was on irrel

Then I just freaked out in maf chat and killed reundo


Well played town, this was areally fun game(while I was actually playing it)



That Reundo nightkill was seriously the most shocking thing that happened in this entire game! I mean I knew he was town of course, but I never thought in a million years that you would nightkill him. I thought for sure you were going to leave him alive as the last mislynch. But yeah with the state of the game being what it was, trying to nightkill either Irrelephant or Nauci would have been incredibly risky for you, since they both were highly likely to be watched by the watcher, and you had no way of knowing that Nauci was the watcher.

Did you actually think Reundo was the most likely person to be the watcher, or just that he was the least likely person to be watched given how suspicious everyone was of him?


Mostly least likely to be watched and tbph going into the night I thought people actually were towning reundo, like nauci, and I might have been able to lynch Tora based off the hammer and NSG’s read, but I just got really apathletic, busy, and annoyed at the overall game and just fucked up MyLo

I didn’t think he was ever watcher, I honesty felt irrel was he watcher who was always watching Nauci, or vice versa

So I just played it safe, and in retrospect it ended up bad

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Post Post #2597  (isolation #337)  » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:48 pm

Did anyone notice how like 4/5 of my “Never scum” reads ended up in endgame


;3

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Post Post #2598  (isolation #338)  » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:49 pm

In post 1231, Eragon wrote:TOWN CORE
-Eragon
-Irrelephant11
-Toranaga
-Nauci
-the worst


Town based on what other people said
-Reundo

PoE Bracket
-Ausuka
-northsidegal
-Keyser Söze
-Dunnstral

Probably the town
-Ausuka

probably the scum(yes i know theres three of them but i could see them all flipping scum, but i know one of them wont, i just dont know which)
-NSG
-keyser soze
-dunnstral


these are all in order of strength from top to bottom.

So Irrelpephant is my strongest TR(other than me)
and TW is my weakest Town circle(still like 90% positive hes town tho)
Reundo is in his own category because i havent seen him do anything at all today and im just going based off what others say
Ausuka is my weakest SR
While Dunn is my strongest, although its very very close between him/keyser/NSG and i am happy to go any way


This was F-4 minus the worst

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Post Post #2600  (isolation #339)  » Thu Oct 25, 2018 11:32 pm

@flicker btw you can release my mafia PT

:3

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Post Post #2607  (isolation #340)  » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:13 pm

In post 2605, Nauci wrote:Eragon you certainly outwitted my watching, big time

I felt so useless (ಥ_ಥ)

Well done


And in doing so fucked myself up in MyLo

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Post Post #2613  (isolation #341)  » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:26 pm

Image

this would be my choice

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