Mini Normal 2035 : Duck Mafia Part 1 : GAME OVER


Locked
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #168 (isolation #0) » Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:53 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #169 (isolation #1) » Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:53 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

I'm in!
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #170 (isolation #2) » Fri Sep 28, 2018 5:54 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Will do a proper read and catchup-post tomorrow morning, seven pages is nothing to me! :cool:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #211 (isolation #3) » Sat Sep 29, 2018 2:56 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 138, Flavor Leaf wrote:Oh, my Unah’s here. I’ll spend time with this game a bit later. Sorry, got busy!
..yet somehow I have a feeling neither of us has really BEEN here yet. If that makes sense.

I am thinking we will find at least one scum in the profii-voters today. That wagon felt like such an easy thing to jump aboard..

For now, UNVOTE: and I'll place a vote on a player with reasoning.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #254 (isolation #4) » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:32 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

Apparently I'll wait as well? :]
#BoonThings ;)
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #268 (isolation #5) » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:45 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Didn't move.
I guess the floor is yours Boon, my man.. I'm off to bed but cant wait to see what you have up in your sleeve! ;)
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #292 (isolation #6) » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:39 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

I'm not sure what to think of Boon here.. :lol:
Like, don't get me wrong - this is def. town!Boons play as much as it could be scum! :roll:
It's just that one of these days it's actually scum!Boon doing this fake-gambit -gambit, and I don't want to be on the losing side of it when it happens.. :]

I'd also like to point out that I knew for a near certainty that it was a gambit from the get go. Mainly because I was asked to be the last one, and there's absolutely no result Boon could have that would suggest me doing anything last night.
What hazes me the most though, is that with the way he formatted his play, I'd guess either Dave or Carca SHOULD have then been his main suspect?

That is because I can see Boon trusting me not to ruin his gambit, and saving me for last would shroud his actual suspicions towards the 2nd to last / 3rd to last..

Does this make sense to anyone else? :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #293 (isolation #7) » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:47 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

Like..he says that Carca IS scum, I can see that in conjuction with his gambit, but then Chill/Gamma/Me?

That is the part that bothers me the most.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #308 (isolation #8) » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:29 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 302, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Una has given no real reads or made any pushes, the only posts with much content are 292 and 293, which seem like fence sitting to me.
First of all - note that I replaced in shortly before the end of D1, and the hammer came rather quickly after I had finally managed to catch up.
I'm sure my predecessor didn't get to post much either since they got replaced(?), but read there if you want to base your read on something D1.. :roll:

D2 starts with Boon to finish his gambit, but you still manage to discredit my two posts that actually attempted to stir conversation?
Nah man, you are either trying to forcefully shade or just miss the contexts of my posting (or lack of it) completely. :]
In post 302, Completly Trustworthy wrote:It seems odd that despite talking about how Boon's behavior bothers him, he says that nobody should think he believes that Boon is probably scum instead of null.
I'm not saying Boon is null. Don't put words to my mouth.
I just wanted to make it 100% clear to everyone else that I know what Boon is. Like, people who haven't played with him much/dislike his gambits often want to straight up lynch him after such a gambit without any further reads.
I am always 50/50 on Boon until I feel certain.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #309 (isolation #9) » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:15 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 303, FA_Q2 wrote:On that same token: una does the same shit in 292 - the entire second statement:
"I'd also like to point out that I knew for a near certainty that it was a gambit from the get go. Mainly because I was asked to be the last one, and there's absolutely no result Boon could have that would suggest me doing anything last night."
I simply wanted to see where Boon goes from there.
Me formatting like that was mainly directed at him - not to try and create any appearances for the rest of you.. :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #310 (isolation #10) » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:17 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 306, Tchill13 wrote:Great points FA. Does make me feel a bit better about you.

I don't feel like I've got a solid foundation for throwing a vote on someone yet.
While I agree with FA making some solid arguments (accurate in their reads or not), I think you are
capable
of making reads here Chill.
Funnily enough though - one of the reasons why I think you are town here is the fact that you haven't tried to fake any reads.
You are brave enough to be passive -> town!Chill to me for now. ;)
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #311 (isolation #11) » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:22 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 307, Reundo wrote:Gamma's initial Flavor vote seemed like a knee-jerk reaction tbh, and the switch onto Carcalilly seemed more based on him rethinking things rather than being influenced by anything in the thread. Not that scum can't think "Oh, this vote was actually a terrible idea, let me switch off real quick", but his switch was definitely not overtly scum-AI, and with regards to his play as a whole I feel he's been fairly involved in the game and doing his part to contribute -- I can't see a clear scum agenda from him.
I think this part here is on the nose.
In post 307, Reundo wrote:Una seems like the most likely to be scum out of Flavor's pool so far -- it feels like he's just coasting so far, and his content is pretty sub-par even for someone who recently replaced in.
..you'll regret saying this once you see what I've whipped up during work just now! :lol:
Sorry to everyone who hates my monologue-spams, but this is how I'm able to form my reads the best and have found the most success in my past games. :]
In post 307, Reundo wrote:Outside of the whole gambit, I'm not getting a good vibe from wilky since his contributions so far have been bare-minumum. I'm still not keen on nonny either -- her posting in RVS was fine since it seemed based on a misunderstanding of the vote count, but I didn't like her comment on profii, and her questions to Carca were just more/less echoing everyone else's concerns, but re-reading her ISO I'm not as confident on my scum-read of her. I might have to take some time to consider this whole gambit a bit more, but for now I'm content with this vote.

VOTE: UnaBombaH
This part here feels the most like fence-sitting, even if it ends with a vote on me.. :igmeou:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #312 (isolation #12) » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:28 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

So...I'm seeing a connection between Reundo and Completely Trustworthy here.
I think they both see a good potential mislynch for today, and furthermore might have been alerted by the way I answered Boons query about last nights actions.. :]

What actually makes my Boon-paranoia rise here is the fact that I think he ought to have jumped on my answer, but didn't.
And it's not beyond him to coach his buddies (Reundo and CT in this scenario) to do the jumping instead of him! :lol:

@Boon
- wanna comment? :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #313 (isolation #13) » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:36 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

VOTE: Completely Trustworthy - to make it feel like it's OMGUS to the max! ;)
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #331 (isolation #14) » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:14 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Yes.
Was just about to ask what you had in mind, and I wholeheartedly agree with this idea - the problem being that only two players are currently voting Carca? :lol:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #348 (isolation #15) » Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:59 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

I'm really liking Boon for town now.
Chill feels very strongly like his town-self. (I have had a knack for scumreading him correctly whenever it has been the case)
Carca is always somewhat "surface-level" scummy, or as someone else might put it, lynchbait-y, so not gonna townlock them, but not seriously scumreading them for now.
Gamma has seemingly been very on-point with their analysis so far (the way I see it), and vocal enough to get some solid towncred from me for now...

I'm off to bed now, but I'm starting to like our chances already. :] (plz get a wagon rolling before I wake up! :lol: )
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #349 (isolation #16) » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:06 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Lol, one more thing before I'm off to bed - I love me some actively posting Boon! :lol:
In post 347, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 305, FA_Q2 wrote:Honest question here FL: If I remember correctly you were the "did someone say L-1" and then hammer guy every time. Should we expect you to turbohammer anyone at L-1 or has that changed?
This is the only thing that holds me back from potential ScumFA.
I was going to look for this post in the morning too, but since you already brought it up.
I feel like this promotes a towny mindset(?) in a way that feels like an odd thing to ever fake..errr...if that makes sense? :lol:

Like
"a thing I don't see a scum bringing up just to appear as towny"
- and it really feels like it's coming from a towny pov, so..? :?
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #382 (isolation #17) » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:51 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

UNVOTE:
"CT shouldn't live to LyLo" and all that Jacuzzi.
Also want to make sure that CT understands - my vote on you was by no means an OMGUS.

I'm starting to lean on just sheeping Boon today and then
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #383 (isolation #18) » Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:52 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

..clicking submit on phone before I get to say what I
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #387 (isolation #19) » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:53 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 379, Tchill13 wrote:Boon consistently pointing out scum is on the profii wagon when he was the one to hammer, among reasons I already stated, means he's probably scum.
+
In post 385, Flavor Leaf wrote:I didn’t hammer Profii, i hammered tip
I actually didn't realize Chill made a mistake here either! :lol:

Do we think here that profii was killed because he had softed/outright claimed a PR?
Because if we do, I'd argue scum was probably off-wagon more likely than on.. (at least most of them?)

I think we want to hear from the less active slots before we end this gameday - especially wilky is a big :?: to me for now.
And I've played both scum and town with them, so I'd say I have some usable insight there as well.. :igmeou:
I also want dave grilled before sleepysleep, and carca giving something less trippy before we go night-night.
Also want to see the nonny-catchup before I take a nappynap..? :roll:

If you didn't guess it already, these three slots are my "hardest to sort -lineup".
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #388 (isolation #20) » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:58 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

CT was on profii all of D1.
profii was the nightkill.
CT claims even-night(?) Doc.
What are the odds we ever get that role confirmed? :igmeou:
But would scum!CT stick to a wagon of an assumed PR and then nightkill them N1 to make that connection stand out even more? :lol:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #389 (isolation #21) » Thu Oct 04, 2018 9:59 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

Hold the phone!
Novice Vig + EVEN-NIGHT Doc?
Scum-role much? :lol:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #392 (isolation #22) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:18 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Carca - I have played with you in multiple games before so I know your somewhat peculiar style of posting.
But I guess not everyone here has.
So want to try and make a more cohesive "readlist" for everyone?

As of now, I'm very much teetering on a scumline with you, simply because of the way you casually imply a Vengeful role (no need to beat around the bush with what you have already said this gameday), but yet you didn't feel the need to ACTUALLY claim it? What does town!Carca achieve with that?
Also, if you have been serious with your "softing", how does that affect your stance on CT claiming an Even-Night Doc? :igmeou:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #405 (isolation #23) » Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:40 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

So hows everything else Boonsky?
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #442 (isolation #24) » Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:52 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 425, Carcalilly wrote:Happy birthday unabombah!!!!
Oh wow, thanks! :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #443 (isolation #25) » Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:58 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 441, Tchill13 wrote:Better question. Who thinks we should control carcallilys shot?
I'm thinking about the Doc-claim from CT..
If that is a scum-doc, we either leave the decision for Carca, or Carca shoots CT (perhaps not smart:lol: )
I'd say give Carca a pool of three.

FA / wilky / ??? :?
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #467 (isolation #26) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:37 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 452, Tchill13 wrote:Wilky, popo and Dave should be the options.
Did I townbin you too early after all? :facepalm:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #485 (isolation #27) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:14 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 479, davesaz wrote:Somethings's wrong with my list because too many of the possible scum are lurkers.
A very "aware" notion imo.. while good, I havent seen anything like this from you ever before, so feels a bit weird though? :lol:

But I'll try to turn this into a question now -
in this specific game, don't you think we could actually, for once, have a full lurkerteam of scum?
:]
I have my own thoughts on this, and will share them in full if dave first gives his in-depth answer..
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #498 (isolation #28) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:10 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

OK, agree with the notion for Carca's shootpool then.
VOTE: Carcalilly - in case it wasn't a hammer yet.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #500 (isolation #29) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:47 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 499, nonny wrote:Not trying to AtE just feel need to give explaination, take it how you will
Damn if we actually managed to name 2/3 scum in the shoot-pool.. :roll:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #519 (isolation #30) » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:19 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

So my first impression here.

CT will claim masons/neighbours with Gamma next.
Flavor was apparently saved/blocked by a loud modifier(?)
It apparently WASN'T our already claimed Doc in CT (because why mention anything in that case but not name them? They have already claimed?)
Unless this is another Boon-gambit. :lol:
But this leaves me with a question -
who did you save last night CT?
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #520 (isolation #31) » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:20 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

Realize that this might have huge implications for what happened last night.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #521 (isolation #32) » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:57 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

I started to make a long post about what I'm most skeptical about, but realized that I want to hear from CT first.

CT HAS TO CLAIM THEIR TARGET FOR LAST NIGHT ASAP, and depending on what they claim, BOONS CLAIMED ACTIONS MIGHT HAVE TOTALLY DIFFERENT IMPLICATIONS.
We can't look beyond that potential connection before continuing.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #526 (isolation #33) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:51 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 523, FA_Q2 wrote:Why throw another vote out there when the hammer was pretty clear? Why even post this? If that was not the hammer, how does that help town?
I'll throw it back at you - what would be the scum-motivation behind making it clear I'm on a mislynch-wagon? :lol:
I really thought Carca was either scum or her shot would have benefited us..apparently she should've just shot you instead? :roll:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #527 (isolation #34) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:59 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Boon, let me guess something once CT has claimed their action for last night.
For now, I think I have two mutually exclusive scenarios running in my head at the same time, and both of them have AT LEAST ONE of Boon/Chill as scum.
Thoughts on that Boon? :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #538 (isolation #35) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:44 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Damn, CT posted already..I'll post when I get home in ~2hours.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #545 (isolation #36) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:44 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 543, Tchill13 wrote:This is what I was looking for when I said we should control carcas shot. I was looking for someone, more than one person but it's fine, to hesitate to do that.
Is this you giving townpoints to FA for saying it? :?
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #546 (isolation #37) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:01 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 529, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Unabombah, you appear to have a suspicion as to what the scumteam is, can you elaborate on that theory?
I'm not set on one specific team yet, I'm trying to figure this shit out.
But getting to my tryhard-post after this "catchup".
In post 530, Tchill13 wrote:My main concerns are:
-----
Una (anyone comfortable playing scum with boon while day chat is allowed is a danger to town and will not be easy to sniff out)
This is the very same argument why I'm thinking that if Boon is scum after all, then so are you! :lol:
In post 530, Tchill13 wrote:Boon is a better player than for us to get this far and he not know who scum is, or even been on a scum push yet. This is his ultimate downfall as scum. His reads are usually too good as town to be this bad.
I can see this perspective, as I have some good experience with the bro myself.
But I also have a theory on why he has played the way he has here - he wanted to make sure him ever potentially dying of his night action would result in two deaths (because scum wouldn't exceptionally want to kill him here), and therefore lead to a guilty because of his crumbs.
I'm hoping he trusted in me being town, because I would've been on them like a hound if he ever died during the night and we had another kill at the same time.
(Remember Blessed Mafia? :lol: )
In post 531, Completly Trustworthy wrote:I have a confession to make Unabombah. I'm a vanilla townie, not a PR. I'm admitting this now because I feel like its unlikely I'll be nightkilled soon and the chance of accidentally outing a PR is too high at this moment. Also, I feel like the scum may try to push me now due to my claim being uncomfirmable, so its better to come clean now rather than later.
Well, it might already be too late in my books if you are town after all of this.
In post 532, Flavor Leaf wrote:Well, I know I’m town and if I wasn’t roleblocked that means Chill is town.
I have a feeling your loud visitor might be to thank for that.
I hope they have already managed to slip something towards you or at least will soon enough.
I'm really starting to lean towards scum!Chill, but we'll see..
In post 534, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m town reading Unah, Tchill, Dave, and CT.
These four slots, all 4 of them to be exact, does not make sense to me. At least one scum in here. :?
In post 537, Flavor Leaf wrote:Regards to CT, scum has no reason to backtrack the claim right here.
Not true 100% of the time.
I'll try to write stream of consciousness after this wall.
In post 544, Tchill13 wrote:VOTE: completely trustworthy

That's a terrible reason to claim. You also know as scum that someone would be pointing out the fact you hadn't died yet by now. This has red flags all over it.
...and we actually got this post before I got to writing!!! :lol:
I think this might confirm my thoughts on the scumteam.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #548 (isolation #38) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:37 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

So, this post might be a bit lacking in formatting, likely no quotes, just me rambling my brains empty before I go to sleep.
Try to get something coherent out of this if at all possible.

Why I'm starting to feel certain Boon is town now?

With all the killing roles/potential "bonus" deaths this game I'm starting to feel 100% certain we have a protective role around.
Even if we were to fully question Boons "weak" modifier, we still had a Venge AND a Vig in a game that has yet to flip a protective.
One investigative.
So Boon being a "weak investigative, heh" as a weak Visitor makes perfect sense to me. IF we have something like a JK/Doc.
I had my reservations about CT's claim yesterday (or atleast it being town and not just scum :lol: ) but I realized when Boon claimed weak visitor, that town could actually value a protective role heavily in this game.
And now that CT has removed the WIFOM around themselves completely, I have no doubts in my mind that Boon was protected last night.
Them bringing a loud modifier up the way they did implies town to me as well.
So with "town!Boon", a protective exists. Making more sense to me role-wise, and also meaning that Chill has NOT been confirmed town (if I understand weak correctly?)
And to add even more - scum!Boon has no reason to townconf. Chill here.
Meaning that either they are both town, or Chill is scum and Boon got saved by Loud McLeod.

I'm deciding that Boon is locktown as of now, and if I'm wrong, so be it.

So why was I initially worried about Boon/Chill?

I felt almost certain CT was going to claim a protective somewhere other than Boon, making Boon town-confirm Chill with his weak-modifier.
AND NOW IMAGINE IF THAT WOULD BE OUR SCUMTEAM. :lol:
(CT+Boon+Chill) Everyone now trusting Boon+Chill to be town AND CT being the only one at risk to die because they were a claimed doc who doesn't die)
I played a game with Chill and Boon being scum together (Blessed Mafia, recommend checking it out if you want to see how scum!Boon+Chill can destroy a mans life.)
I decided that it was paranoia, and IF Boon were to be scum, they would've coached CT to likely stick to their claim.

What is the scumteam then?

I'm thinking CT for "obvious" reasons.
The fakeclaim was hastily put together D2, on the spot I think.
The repercussions of him being unable to die at night weren't thought of beforehand, which is why they got cold feet today and they backed out of the claim altogether.
The potential "ninja" and "rolecop" were thrown out to try and gather SOMETHING to maybe explain SOMETHING.
CT still hasn't explained why they "knew" that Gamma didn't see anyone N1 although "gamma watched profii".
:lol:
I mean, there are tons of reasons, and I actually wanted them lynched D2 already, and that wagon got destroyed by the Doc-claim alone mind you.
...and because I'm thinking CT, I'm also thinking Chill. Yap.
No quotes as promised, but I'm absolutely positive Chill did some clever distancing towards CT yesterday and now today.
Check his latest post AND VOTE TOWARDS CT.
Chill just said that the reasons for fakeclaiming were bad, and totally skated over the more damning (in my opinion at least) argument that CT also claims to have knowledge of Gammas actions N1..and still absolutely no reason why they didn't die last night. :lol:

It becomes a chain in my mind at this point.

I'm thinking CT+Chill is a lock to me at this point, if town!Boon is a lock.
Since town!Boon is feeling solid, we almost certainly have a protective -> making scum!Chill still a possibility.
Turning it around in my head: if Boon were to be scum here, Chill would still be scum with him.
And the third scum would still likely just be CT anyway.
So CT+Chill = scum. We just need to find the assumed third scum to take this home.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #549 (isolation #39) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:37 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 547, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Unah - you’re right within that 4...I’m starting to feel like Tchill is scum. I don’t feel my target mattered, tbh. I was likely blocked.
Lol, read my ramblings above. :lol:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #551 (isolation #40) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:38 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 544, Tchill13 wrote:You also know as scum that someone would be pointing out the fact you hadn't died yet by now. This has red flags all over it.
To be fair, I somehow missed this.
Chill DID point this aspect out. :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #552 (isolation #41) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:43 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Oh, lost thought so I just sent that wall, but I now remembered one thing I wanted to address.

I'm thinking CT (or their teammates) thought it wiser to backtrack the whole claim rather than try to come up with faked targets.
It still wouldn't change the fact they didn't die last night themselves, and assuming they were town and wanted to make a reasonable claim for a target..they would have to claim having saved Boon.
And now here's the kicker - having heard Boons claim, they didn't want to "UNCONFIRM" Chill as town!!! ;)

So they couldn't claim a protect on Boon with the hope that Chill survives from the back of Boon "confirming" them, so they decided to not claim protect on anyone else either -> backtrack the whole claim.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #555 (isolation #42) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:51 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

(I just recommend it to everyone because I still caught all three of you out on that gambit, and got praised in the dead thread :roll: )
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #557 (isolation #43) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:52 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Only if I'm invited.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #559 (isolation #44) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:53 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

BTW, wanna bet Chill is going to come back into this thread saying we are scum together right outta the gates? :lol:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #579 (isolation #45) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:12 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 577, FA_Q2 wrote:Scum is ct/una
You never returned my return to your serve.
In Tennis, that would be advantage, Una.. :roll:

I think your name has been thrown around the most in the last two days. Yet I have a feeling you are not even trying to solve, but just disrupt and hope people leave you alone?
FA+CT as scum then?
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #599 (isolation #46) » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:12 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Hey Boon, if you actually had to throw a whole scumteam on the table right now, what would it be?

I don't feel as energetic as I did last night after a few beers, so I'm not going to be able to do the heavy lifting necessary to point out every scummy connection I currently see whenever CT or Chill posts..but I do see a lot.
I'm just worried it's more than 50% conf.bias, if I'm really the only one who thinks CT+Chill makes sense.. :?

Please give me some fresh perspective! (I'll read tomorrow)
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #620 (isolation #47) » Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:59 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 618, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Unah - Wifoming scum with this one, but I’m trusting you with it. No further comments shall be made with this, as it makes it irrelevant.
I was just about to suggest something like this to you, but I hear you loud and clear! :lol:

Let's focus on who to lynch today instead then.
If I'm reading this situation correctly, we more or less have to land a scum!lynch today or we lose.
Giving us something like a ~20% chance to survive one more day with a mislynch today..depending how good I am with my guesses.


Which lynch feels like the safest to everyone?

I'm really finding it hard to shake my suspicions towards CT+Chill.
Every post from either of them today has only strengthened my pairing-read of them.
And if I've understood correctly, Chill "scumreads" CT and CT now "scumreads" Chill?

Unless I'm absolutely wrong with thoughts here, I'd say there's close to a 100% chance at least one of them is scum! :lol:
Because the way I see it, it's either that they are both scum and trying to do their best to distance, or one of them is scum, and doing their best to tie in with the other to maybe get a mislynch on them tomorrow..
Does that make sense to anyone else?
And if it does, let's assume one of them is town.
Which of them?
:?
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #622 (isolation #48) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:46 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 621, Tchill13 wrote:Somebody say something I want to see takes on unas idea lol.
I know it would be silly to ask of you whether you agree with my scumread on you two, but I'll phrase it like this:
are you objectively able to see where I'm coming from?
:]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #637 (isolation #49) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:18 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 636, Flavor Leaf wrote:Lol, and the award for scummiest post in the game goes to Nonny.
Thought the exact same! :lol:

So, for funsies before going to bed: I'm going to be assuming scum!nonny for this post, to maybe try and squeeze something out of this one..
In post 635, nonny wrote:prior to reread I’m still TR
FA, chill
and slight on una.
Guessing one buddy for now in here..?
But I guess more likely two in the "townreads" than two in the "scumreads" IMO, considering how well the scum team has seemingly done so far.
Leaving me with one/two of FA/Chill..go figure. :lol:
In post 635, nonny wrote:Scumlean on flavor and reundo, and SR on
CT
.
This is rather surprising to me, as I'd guess there's likely no need to list at least both scumbuddies into scumreads at this point?
Meaning at least reundo wouldn't perhaps ever be scum with nonny then? :? (unless CT somehow read their role-PM wrong? :giggle: )
Also want to point out, that I got the feeling of "need" to put a separate "SR on CT" after the two scum"leans".
In post 635, nonny wrote:Everyone else is fuzzy and I need to sort.
It's only dave and
nonny
not listed in this post...and I think you might townread nonny, or..? So, uh...not much fuzzy to clear then, eh? :roll:

In short: I think scum!nonny would be teamed with 2/3 from the ones I've colored red.
"BUT UNA, YOU HAVE JUST DONE NOTHING USEFUL, SINCE IT'S STILL HALF OF THE REMAINING PLAYERS YOU HAVE THERE!"
Up yours, I'm off to bed. (and what I think this opened up to me, is that reundo+nonny doesn't seem to make a lot of sense)
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #638 (isolation #50) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:16 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

OK, that^^ was supposed to be a one-off post with a silly-little for an agenda.
But it actually got me thinking whether Gamma had crumbed any investigation-results, negative or not, and what else could've been overlooked D2 because of that whole Vengeful-thing.
Didn't find anything at first, but then found myself reading until I was at the start of D3.
Then multiple things hit me in succession and I went deeper back in the game..and this is the story of what I found.
My name is UnaB, and welcome to Jackass.
In post 519, UnaBombaH wrote:Flavor was apparently saved/blocked by a loud modifier(?)
It apparently WASN'T our already claimed Doc in CT (because why mention anything in that case but not name them? They have already claimed?)
My own first impressions from what had already been posted at the start of D3.
Notice how I automatically got stuck with the thought that CT can't be the one Boon is talking about -> another protective/blocker could be afoot.....OR SIMPLY CT HAD IN FACT FAKECLAIMED D2.
Just a reminder:
In post 388, UnaBombaH wrote:CT was on profii all of D1.
profii was the nightkill.
CT claims even-night(?) Doc.
What are the odds we ever get that role confirmed? :igmeou:
Now back to D3, and it becomes more understandable that CT might want to back out of their claim.
They are now feeling certain there's an actual town!protective moving around (and so was I ;) ), and they are certain to get in a 1v1 with them if they stick to their fakeclaim.
So I think I accidentally did something very good in here by ending my post with:
In post 519, UnaBombaH wrote:But this leaves me with a question - who did you save last night CT?
..and this obviously soon led to the retraction of the whole claim.
Meaning to say - I think CT revealing their claim to be fake was by no mean towny.

In fact, it was more clearly scum when I go back to D2 for another moment.
In post 227, The Mighty Ducks wrote:profii has been found dead.
he was a Town Novice Vigilante.
..followed by..
In post 325, Carcalilly wrote:maybe I wanna be lynched

ever thought of that gamma OwowoO
...and..
In post 366, Carcalilly wrote:You'd have to ask the mod what will happen when you Lynch me in lylo
..finally leading into:
In post 371, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Also, I claim even night doctor.
Now that I went back and read that all in succession it hit me even harder.
CT claimed Doc for two reasons.
To avoid being the lynch there, sure.
BUT MORE LIKELY TO JUST TRY AND SNIFF OUT THE TOWN!PROTECTIVE THAT HAD JUST BECOME VERY MUCH LIKELY, maybe even obvious! :lol:
We had a Vig-flip, and a Venge-not so-softclaim in a very short period of time.
Had CT not made it out of that situation, it would've likely been just because our protective would've had to counterclaim!
Scum were becoming aware of the fact that we would likely have someone to stop some kills, and CT seemed to be going down anyway. Why not try and milk it while potentially even avoiding the lynch altogether? :]

So, with all that in mind..I still wanted to check what CT had to say in their next longer post after this.. :igmeou: (colorings and boldings in quotes are my own obviously)
In post 377, Completly Trustworthy wrote:
I still feel like Flavor Leaf deciding to vote me because I was on the Profii wagon was a little suspicious
, but he's claiming a PR. Therefore;
its best to let the scum team sort out his alignment. They won't let him run unchecked.
..which they apparently did? How inconvenient. :roll:
In post 377, Completly Trustworthy wrote:
Tchill I personally townread at this point.

-- He was also one of the first people to express suspicion of me and was consistent in that, he didn't seem to just sheep popular opinion. I would like a better case from him though.
Did you get a better case then? :good:
In post 377, Completly Trustworthy wrote:
Gamma's vote for me was extremely sudden as I said, I would like to know why he suspects me since he has experience playing with me before.
I've liked the rest of his game so far
due to meta experience and his relative abundance of content compared to other posters.
You liked the rest of his game so much you just couldn't help but to kill him the following night? :roll:
In post 377, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Right now I'd be willing to lynch Una, Wilky, Nonny, or FA.
I'm feeling bold right about now. I'd be willing to bet there's only one scum in here.. Call me a genius. :cop:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #639 (isolation #51) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:26 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

..and before I really go to bed..see what Chill to say right after post ! :lol:
I'm not making this shit up! :lol:
In post 379, Tchill13 wrote:
Carcallily could easily be scum.
That's obvious.
+
In post 379, Tchill13 wrote:
Boon consistently pointing out scum is on the profii wagon
when he was the one to hammer, among reasons I already stated,
means he's probably scum.
+
In post 379, Tchill13 wrote:So we can lynch carca now and if she flips scum then boon is probably town.
--> reason to keep scumreading Boon after Carca flips town? :facepalm:
In post 379, Tchill13 wrote:
CT is town
because that's a tough fake claim to get away with.
....
In post 633, Tchill13 wrote:I think the nonny/tchill scum team is the only one that makes any sense objectively if you're attacking me.
..I'd like to add CT to the list. :roll:

I mean, you are one of my favorites Chill, but.. You are either so far off as town here that I don't think I've ever seen before, or you are just scum with CT, and you gave your whole game away with that Doc-claim. :lol:

And now I'm off to bed.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #647 (isolation #52) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 10:18 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 643, Tchill13 wrote:Flavor if you're town you'll vote una with me.
I'd like to hear arguments for this. :lol:
If I haven't been transparently town to you so far, I propably can't do much to convince you anyway.

I'm trying to think of a town motivation for Chill to say something like this, and all I can think of, is a scenario where town!Chill is still paranoid of Boon.
Which still makes very little sense to me.

I'll humor you Chill, and assume for a moment that you are town here regardless of all the interactions I've found.
For you to be town, it would likely mean that CT is town as well then? Or have they been able to weave these connections between the two of you just to get you lynched alongside themself?
Give me a scumteam I'm able to understand and accept then!
I'm starting to feel good about nonny/reundo not being on the same team.
You can't name me without casing me properly, and if you're trying to be transparently town here, I'd advice against trying to case me anyway.. :]
So if you want to make a solid argument for a scumteam, you are actually quite limited with where to point.
But please do try.
Like, not just name a team, try to show how you get there.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #649 (isolation #53) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:11 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

At least one scum, sure.
I'll go even further, I'd say there's likely one scum in FA/nonny, but currently I'm thinking not two.
A lynch in that trio is in my eyes a 33% successful lynch, while lynching in Chill/CT/FA/nonny is pretty much 75%. :]

For you to suggest such a trio that excludes both of you (well obviously you need to exclude yourself, not gonna argue that :lol: ) and CT, makes me think (yet again, even more strongly) that one of nonny/FA is a mislynch.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #650 (isolation #54) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:27 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

To format my thoughts into two separate parts, while still keeping the logic same:
I'm thinking that if we lynch CT/Chill = 100% scum.
Therefore (obv. assuming 3 scum) lynching in FA/nonny/dave/reundo is 25% to me.

I'm obviously leaving myself and my top townread in Boon out of this all, and
I'm gonna narrow this just a little more.

I think I've heard just enough of dave to sort them as town (I'm thinking Boon agrees?), and out of nonny/reundo, nonny has the latest scummy post, and more tie-ins with my top scumreads as well, leaving reundo out.
FA has been suspected by multiple players so far, and was one of Gammas top scumreads as well (if I remember correctly). Their D3 has also felt very much empty as well, so no trouble seeing scumpotential there.

..leaving me with a good feeling about having one scum in FA/nonny, so a 50% there.
Combine that with CT/Chill and it's 3/4 -> 75%.

I'm starting to feel like there isn't much more I can say at this point, but I feel like I'm ready to lynch anyone in that group of four IF Boon agrees with my logic.
If we are lynching in CT/Chill, I don't even care who's on the wagon because I'm certain we'll hit scum. :lol:

So leaving the mic open for anyone else to take it now.
I'll be checking the thread every day, but don't feel like spamming anymore until something actually gets done by someone else. :roll:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #653 (isolation #55) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:04 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 652, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Also, I feel like you are indeed being influenced by confirmation bias slightly. You said that a member of the scumteam has no need to put both their partners as scumreads in 637. On day three I've consistently scumread Fa, Nonny, and Tchill13. You're currently suggesting I'm teammates with Tchill and one of FA/Nonny, wouldn't it be odd for me to do that then?
These kind of reads and interpretations are always formed one way or another (the opposite).
Unless it wasn't clear before - a singular scum who isn't/hasn't been widely scumread so far has no reason to try and "distance" from their teammates beforehand. (as they won't likely be the lynch themselves)
Especially if it might risk their buddies becoming the lynch for the day. (and scum potentially needs only one more mislynch to win)

The thing is obviously upside down for someone like you, who has been mentioned as a potential lynch candidate for a while now.
You would need to try and distance from your teammates at this point, especially considering that you have previously been too tightly knit together with Chill. :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #686 (isolation #56) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:11 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 660, Tchill13 wrote:UNA has aggressively tried to get me lynched today. Latched on to that suspicion immediately this day phase.
Wrong assessment.
Haven't "tried to get you lynched".
I heavily scumread CT for their fakeclaim, and had them as my #1 lynchcandidate before they claimed Doc anyway.
The way you have been tied together with CT, and the way your reads have been very uncomprehensable both indicate scum on you as well.

So if you really "scumread" me for scumreading you this game.. :lol:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #687 (isolation #57) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:22 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

Oh, and unless it wasn't clear to everyone already - at least one of nonny, Reundo and Completly Trustworthy are basically confirmed scum now. OR we are facing a scumteam that just flat out sucks at coordinating. :lol:

Keep discussing people, I'll just keep popping in from time to time.
I'm going back to work today (had a week long holiday), so I might be busy today specifically.
Otherwise not much will change.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #689 (isolation #58) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:35 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 688, nonny wrote:
In post 687, UnaBombaH wrote:Oh, and unless it wasn't clear to everyone already - at least one of nonny, Reundo and Completly Trustworthy are basically confirmed scum now. OR we are facing a scumteam that just flat out sucks at coordinating. :lol:
Can you expand on this? Not sure I fully get what you mean.
We are in MyLo right?
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #691 (isolation #59) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:44 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

Are you able to post in realtime Boon?
I'll leave for work soon, but I have some time.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #693 (isolation #60) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:49 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 692, Flavor Leaf wrote:Tchill is seeming townier lately.

Gut says CT is town.
Both of these at the same time worry me a bit. (obv. mainly because I think they could both be scum so we would be trying to land one scum in the rest of the players..)

But like I said before, I'm willing to sheep you in a lynch if it's towards FA or nonny today.
I just fear that it's a 50/50.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #694 (isolation #61) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 7:50 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 692, Flavor Leaf wrote:Hmm, I could see a potential Tchill/Reundo pairing, and idk who the third would be.
But not Chill/CT?
Not Chill/nonny?
Can you show me your work, there has to be something I'm missing now.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #697 (isolation #62) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:16 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 695, Flavor Leaf wrote:Maybe I just really fell for the CT ScumGambit if CT is in fact scum, but i don’t see a reason for getting rid of the doc claim in that scenario as scum.
So you think that my and are completely wrong?
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #726 (isolation #63) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:37 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 723, Flavor Leaf wrote:Conclusion:
I’m pretty certain that the scum team is FA, Dave, and Reundo. Full stop.
Oh my what a ride it was to get here! :lol:

Most certain about FA apparently?
I'd say we lynch there then, and move on from there.
I do not feel like taking a risky lynch today.. :roll:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #733 (isolation #64) » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:38 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Wait, a Doc?
Why did I get the feeling Boon would've been blocked?
Also @dave - why didn't you counterclaim/push CT after their Doc-claim?~
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #756 (isolation #65) » Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:05 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

Yeah, I think this makes the most sense anyway.

VOTE: FA

@Boon - I know you like to live on the edge, but I bet you can't be compulsive and weak at the same time.. :lol:

Also to be sure we are all on the same page here - if FA flips town after all this back and forth,
dave has to get a save right or we lose.

@dave - Meaning that if FA flips town, you first flip a coin whether you save Boon or not, and if not, you throw a dice on your other townleans or something.

No need to discuss this post any further.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #773 (isolation #66) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:37 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 761, Tchill13 wrote:This is ridiculous. I'll be damned if someone who fake claimed an even night doctor AND NEVER GOT NK'D gets me lynched.

You've gotten a pass from others but that's scummy has hell man. You're just flinging shit at me to see if it'll stick at this point.
I actually fully agree with you on this.
No matter what FA flips, if I ever wake up to a D4 I'm still going after CT.
I'm willing to give my life into Boons hands for today, but I'm a bit worried he has given a pass to some players too soon..

One of Chill/CT is scum, I can still feel it in my bones.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #823 (isolation #67) » Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:39 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 811, Tchill13 wrote:ok the game is screaming FA/Una/Reundo atm. Based on what i just did and Reundo's iso.

CT i hate you for lying about being a protective as town. (jk of course)
I'll have time post later today, but one thing I want to ABSOLUTELY make sure before I go to work - there's 0% chance Boon visited me last night (and to add 0% chance I'm scum here).

And this team Chill is forming in his post is ridiculous.
Boon didn't crumb visiting me, he crumbed TO ME who he was going to visit.
Reundo is likely scum though.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #824 (isolation #68) » Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:45 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

We need to bag this in this day phase.
Meaning I need to try and interact with Chill directly to try and sort him for good.
Boon visited Reundo, Chill, or dave last night. I'll bet you a duck and a half for that.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #828 (isolation #69) » Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:54 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

Chill - you trying to force a town! CT makes me feel bad again.. :facepalm:

Homework for you guys while I'm at work - count the posts from CT that imply TOO MUCH INFO during D3.
Guidelines to help you all count: scum knew FA was likely going down yesterday, scum knew CT needed some Town points before EOD, scum likely guessed there really had to be a town!protective after that Venge-flip.

CT is still very much a candidate for scum.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #831 (isolation #70) » Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:58 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

You are mixing two days.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #834 (isolation #71) » Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:59 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 833, Tchill13 wrote:Una's pretty much gonna get an extra vote as long as i agree with him and the explanation makes sense to me.
..even if I end up deducing that you are scum? :roll:

I'm not even humble-bragging here, but I am going to solve this game before I go to sleep ~14h from now.
Scum is in reundo/CT/Chill/dave, town!nonny came as a surprise even to me today! :lol: (mainly because I think reundo and nonny aren't scum together, and I'm feeling certain reundo is scum because of last night.)
reundo was likely the visit, if not them, then it was dave or Chill.
In short - Boons crumb to me meant "townread who I townread" ("join my mind"), but also "going to visit outside of the lynchwagon" OR "going to visit the same person again" ("think outside of the box").
THE FACT THAT WE HAD A SCUM!RB FLIP MIGHT HAVE AFFECTED HIS DECISION TO RE-VISIT CHILL YOU SEE.

This leaves me with a dilemma in the aforementioned trio. (Chill, reundo, dave)
I however refuse to lynch dave as of now, unless this weird one-kill -night means something, and Chill seems to be playing more like themselves right now...don't want to get myself biased right now.
Gonna read and post tonight.

I still have a feeling that one of CT/Chill HAS TO BE scum because of all those weird connections and reads during D2 (go check my ISO and see those few long posts I made with color in them), BUT I'M TRYING TO NOT GET TUNNELED THERE ANYMORE.
I'll mainly use Boons material from yesterday, and wall this game to an end. :lol:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #835 (isolation #72) » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:01 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

Also @everyone - if you are town and come online during my work, please do post something.
Almost anything is fine, but preferably your interpretation of what happened last night.

Why did we have ONLY one death?
OR if you want to do it the difficult way - Why did we have EXACTLY one death? :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #854 (isolation #73) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:06 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 852, Tchill13 wrote:Because if Dave is scum he's probably a loud Rolecop.
Then tell me two things - who else has dave targeted? No one has claimed a loud visit before Boon did.
Are you saying a scum!rolecop holstered N1? For what reason? It still wouldn't explain how scum found out Gamma was a PR.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #855 (isolation #74) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:15 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

If dave is a scum!loud-ANYTHING, I do not see why he would visit Boon to put himself in the spotlight.
ESPECIALLY IF he is a scum!loud-ANYTHING, WHY WOULD THE SCUM KILL BOON TONIGHT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE FACT DAVE CAN'T SAVE BOON?? :lol:

I'm thinking dave is just town!Doc, and I'm guessing he is now out of shots.
I'm thinking that we had only one kill because Boon targeted scum...
OR
I'm thinking scum tried to shoot Boon even though dave was supposed to save him again, because they thought dave might actually be out of shots.. or scum has a Strongman..or something. :facepalm:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #856 (isolation #75) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:28 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Scum intentionally not killing doesn't make a lot of sense, but if you think about the end-result for just this one kill, this is the one that gives us the least information and leads to most WIFOM.

1)
Assume scum had killed dave.
Assume Boon dies as well.
We now KNOW that Boon targeted scum last night -> we get a guilty and dave as a WIFOM-target is gone.
We would be at LyLo, yes, but I'd say we would be better off. (since interpreting Boons hint correctly leads to scum and we don't have to be paranoid about dave)

2)
Assume scum had killed dave.
Assume Boon gets an inno.
We now KNOW that Boons result is reliable because a scum!RB has already flipped.
We have a townblock of Boon+Inno+Una.
Try to win that as scum. :]

3)
Assume scum tries to kill Boon / manages to kill Boon through a save.
and/or
Assume Boon dies because he visits scum.
We can't be sure what actually happened. (hence the and/or)
We have no townblock. We do not know who Boon possibly cleared/guiltied (I'm split 1/3 like said earlier)
dave is a suspect because he didn't die but his claimed save-target did.
Try to win this as town.. :lol:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #864 (isolation #76) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:06 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

So how do you explain CT then? :?
I do not see a version where CT is actually town.

Maybe I'm just feeling paranoid because Boon wanted me to be able to read his clues.. :(
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #866 (isolation #77) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:07 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

I don't fking know.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #867 (isolation #78) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:07 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

But didn't Boon agree dave is likely a doc before the night?
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #868 (isolation #79) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:08 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Also: why didn't dave just protect Boon again, and kill someone else then?
I still do not see WHY kill Boon if dave is scum.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #899 (isolation #80) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:19 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

OK, fck it.
I'm counting on you then.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #900 (isolation #81) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:20 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Dave+reundo?
I'll read with that in mind tomorrow.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #924 (isolation #82) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:28 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 923, nonny wrote:I agree the most likely night action from scum was a kill.
I doubt anyone is disagreeing with this?
Even I feel certain that scum DID post a kill, but was Boon the target?
That is my question.

I've done my reading with the given mindset of dave+reundo being the scumteam.

I have no reason to think the two of them could not be the two remaining scum.

However, I ran into a twist during my reading.
I have no trouble believing CT+reundo or Chill+reundo is the team either.
I do not see an alternative for daves assumed teammate however.
Does this mean that I should consider reundo conf.scum then?
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #926 (isolation #83) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:59 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 925, davesaz wrote:Who was most dangerous to scum in the whole game? I'd say Flavor without question.
Yes to this.
In post 925, davesaz wrote:They don't ever kill me in that situation because I'm perennial lynchbait. Tchill in particular knows this.
THIS EXACTLY makes my spine crawl.
Chill should see the WIFOM-aspect of all this, but somehow he just skates over it.
In post 925, davesaz wrote:Whether it's a no-kill + visit on scum or a kill+protect+visit on scum, it's still a visit on scum no matter what.
This was my point as well. Although, assuming you could be scum, you would have to say this anyway. :]
In post 925, davesaz wrote:Una, are you suggesting that we have another role that's undeclared?
Absolutely not. Although if anyone feels like claiming a role, please go ahead! :lol: I'm all ears.
And then all hands..tying a noose..for the claimer. :roll:
In post 925, davesaz wrote:Don't see how a kill attempt could have gone somewhere else unless there was another role available to stop it.
My hypothesis was that scum did try to kill Boon, in the hopes that you had A) fakeclaimed your 2-shot B) already used both of your shots. Or they have a strongman or something similar.
Still doesn't change the fact that Boon likely targeted scum last night.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #927 (isolation #84) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:22 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 841, Tchill13 wrote:I think scum here, any scum team here, would have killed Dave. It's a sure fire kill correct? Not only that but
if scum were to purposely kill boon it validates his night action.
I think your perspective is a bit flawed here. (the bolded)

Let's assume scum know where Boon is targeting.
Like, for certain KNOW where he is targeting.
If it's a visit on scum, they kill someone else (likely dave) to make it a LyLo, OR leave dave alive for the WIFOM of why he's not dead. (MyLo)
They win with just one mislynch on either scenario, so it doesn't matter from their perspective.
The only trusted town and the best "detective" is dead too.
All they need to do, is to make sure there isn't a one sure-fire way to read Boons "riddle" (I bet there really wasn't), and then just ARGUE ABOUT THE INTERPRETATION IF ANYONE SAYS BOON VISITED ONE OF THEM. :lol:
We really could be living through this scenario here.


If it's a visit on town, they want to kill that townie to give 0 actual confirmations AND they can still kill Boon the night after since dave will be out of shots. (we obviously know this didn't happen, but this was the alternative IF scum knew who Boon was about to target.)
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #928 (isolation #85) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:28 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

So you see, dave not being dead doesn't mean anything IF scum had a hunch or guess on who Boon was about to visit. (and it was going to be one of them)
I also feel quite certain Boon didn't want to make a "safe" visit.
Simply because we finally landed a scumlynch D3, AND that lynch was a Roleblocker, making it sure that his death would be a result of a visit towards scum.
I'm back to scanning Boons ISO to try and maybe find something more solid.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #929 (isolation #86) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:30 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Meanwhile, I'm feeling sketchy because Chill is pushing this angle so heavily because "Boons word is golden"..
You all want to know what were some of Boons last written thoughts before the night phase? (and yet Chill didn't even bring this up)
In post 773, UnaBombaH wrote:I'm willing to give my life into Boons hands for today, but I'm a bit worried he has given a pass to some players too soon..
One of Chill/CT is scum, I can still feel it in my bones.
+
In post 775, Flavor Leaf wrote:Yeah, I’m starting to feel that way. Don’t put it all in my hands, haha.
Boon agreed that one of CT/Chill was likely still scum.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #930 (isolation #87) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:32 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Wait, how did I miss this?????


Chill towards the end of last day phase:
In post 761, Tchill13 wrote:This is ridiculous. I'll be damned if someone who fake claimed an even night doctor AND NEVER GOT NK'D gets me lynched.

You've gotten a pass from others but that's scummy has hell man. You're just flinging shit at me to see if it'll stick at this point.
+
In post 762, Tchill13 wrote:This FA lynch is moving along too quickly imo.
:?: :!: :?: :!: :?:
In post 763, Tchill13 wrote:VOTE: completely trustworthy
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #931 (isolation #88) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:34 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

...that all was followed by Boon agreeing with me on one of Chill/CT being scum..how the fck did I sleep on that??
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #932 (isolation #89) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:35 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 877, Tchill13 wrote:We have at least 2 ppl going into conspiracy theory mode atm. Yall enjoy that and call me back when you're being sensible.
And stuff like this is just AtE now that I read it with a clear mind.

@Chill - you really did your all to play me this day phase? :lol:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #934 (isolation #90) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:40 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 882, Tchill13 wrote:UNA, which players am I supposed to believe are so good as scum that they thought of the idea of not killing this night phase? And why should I believe they were good enough to come up with that?
..and now that I'm re-reading these..I think this was actually you just taunting me?
Wtf man.. :lol:
In post 886, Tchill13 wrote:Una won't be able to provide me with reason when it comes to believing there is a competent scum team and it's gonna be rough depending on CT being town to win this game.
And this is you trying to turn CT and nonny to back you up?
In post 887, Tchill13 wrote:Yeah. If he's competent enough to know setup spec and guess one right, he thinks he's good enough to fake claim in towns best interest.

Doesn't that make sense to you una? I mean no spite. It's just a common thing here at MS where players tend to be more selfish than they should when they actually know a thing or two about how to play.
I'm still thinking that your earlier "analysis" on scum!CT was better.
But since you need him to vote with/for you now, you can't keep calling him scum anymore. :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #936 (isolation #91) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:03 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

SWEEPING DECLARATION TIME:

To anyone not named Chill - I'm starting to feel certain that Chill is scum.

He more than likely has been the whole game ( :lol: ) and this was the first time ever where I wasn't able to read him correctly. (I'm not sure if he admits it here, but I had a flawless record on reading him correctly when he's scum)
I think his play was to originally create associations with CT because of the assumption that I was going to sniff him out -> CT gets lynched after.
Then it turned into an act of just trying to push for CT's lynch once MyLo was rolling around and CT had already made that fakeclaim and the following redaction.
Today Chill has been pushing for dave+reundo and CT is now lock!town.. :]
And most importantly -
I FEEL CERTAIN NOW THAT BOON VISITED CHILL LAST NIGHT.

Why?
1) He wanted to double-check him.
There was a ton of speculation about a roleblocker, and after such a role was flipped, he had no reason not to make sure.

2) His second to last post implied that he was starting to lean scum on CT/Chill as well again.

3) I finally found the thing I absolutely should have found during the night.
In post 752, Flavor Leaf wrote:If I die anyways, it’s confirmed there is a roleblocker and Tchill can’t necessarily be considered town.
THIS BLATANTLY TELLS IT TO US.
He was going to visit Chill no matter what.

Let's not make any hasty votes yet, but I want everyone to start thinking who fits alongside assumed FA+Chill.

@Chill - if you want to convince me otherwise, you are going to need something other than AtE at this point.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #940 (isolation #92) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:06 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 938, Tchill13 wrote:Towns gonna lose because of unas ego and the fact he thinks he'll never read me wrong.
..and this is AtE again.
Also, I just admitted that I read you wrong this game.
Kudos for your scumgame in fact! :]

Also also, you should already know that I really don't have much of an ego.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #941 (isolation #93) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:10 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 937, Tchill13 wrote:I'm not asking you to say certain scenarios don't exist. I'm asking you to wonder which scenario is most likely una.
Well, to be fair, that is EXACTLY what I finally decided to go back to doing!
I had a hunch that you/CT had at least one scum between the two of you, but I gave up on it for a moment because of what Boon said.
You also ALMOST had me played today - I already felt like giving up on trying to solve this game myself, and was just going to sheep you for better or for worse.

Good thing I decided to take a plunge one more time.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #945 (isolation #94) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:23 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 943, Tchill13 wrote:I'm what world do I play FA going down like I did as his scum partner?
In the world where you had already decided to play the game like this:
In post 648, Tchill13 wrote:Dave is still in the game right?

Who would agree with the fact there's at least one scum in

Dave, fa, nonny. What's stopping that from being the team?
And the thing is, Boon sort of agreed with you actually:
In post 723, Flavor Leaf wrote:Conclusion:
I’m pretty certain that the scum team is FA, Dave, and Reundo. Full stop.
Boom, right?
In post 744, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Replace Nonny for Dave, I guess in my thing.

I understand that and loud is kinda bleh right there for scum.
No, wait? This is something you just happened to miss, right?
But maybe Boon left it a bit open there then?
In post 745, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 727, nonny wrote:Shit, that was a very good page. Don’t wholly disagree with anything when laid out that way. I’m still more confidant in Dave though so will keep vote there for now.
Which also explains this post. Picks the townie of the three that i proposed.

Yeah, that fits nicely.

Nonny, Reundo, FA.

I’m going FA first.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #947 (isolation #95) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:24 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 942, Tchill13 wrote:Why would boon check someone who he thinks is scum last night phase?
Because we finally nailed scum last day.
And, you know...
In post 747, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Unah - how many games have we played together recently? 7-8 games This Year, I’d say?

You should know I like to play risky....
..just something Boon yet again said.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #949 (isolation #96) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:27 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

I'm going to bed now, but I'll return to this tomorrow at some point.
I want to especially hear from dave, nonny, CT at this point, because if I'm on the right track their opinions matter the most to me now. :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #951 (isolation #97) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:29 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 948, Tchill13 wrote:I'm just trying to get through to una.
You must see it yourself as well??
So many goddamn things actually incriminate you more than they clear you.
It's not just me being paranoid or stubborn anymore.
I finally feel like I managed to get above all that.
I feel confident enough now, to say that if I'm mistaken about your alignment here, I'll take full responsibility for the outcome of this match.
:] #ApparentlyIhaveAnEgoAfterAll
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #975 (isolation #98) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:02 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 970, Tchill13 wrote:"outside the box".761 quote is the box. 773 quote is outside the main box, which in my mind means he attempted to visit CT due to "no matter what FA flips, if i ever wake up to d4 im going after CT."
:lol: Believe it or not, I had this written down yesterday before I went to sleep, but decided I was just getting too excited and saw things that weren't there!
I still think this could point to you, however, but I'm not gonna phonepost about it now.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #989 (isolation #99) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:13 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

This page has the kind of Chill I can see myself cooperating with. :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #993 (isolation #100) » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:26 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 657, The Mighty Ducks wrote:nonny (2) : Reundo, Completly Trustworthy,
+
In post 687, UnaBombaH wrote:Oh, and unless it wasn't clear to everyone already - at least one of nonny, Reundo and Completly Trustworthy are basically confirmed scum now. OR we are facing a scumteam that just flat out sucks at coordinating.
This was the situation for very much long enough for scum to orchestrate any kind of a "quick" hammer.

I'm guessing this doesn't help much in itself right now, but in case anyone ever starts to second guess it: we WILL find at least one scum in this trio. (hint: it's least likely nonny considering many of the things that have happened since, but.. :roll: )
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #994 (isolation #101) » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:47 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

@Chill - if we can achieve a mutual agreement on who to lynch TODAY (and reach it via same reasoning, mind you), I'm willing to throw a townlock on you.
Meaning that if we lynch scum today (as we SHOULD), no matter if I'm the one to go before tomorrow, I'll make sure everyone remaining alive will know that you are town.
(meaning that you can surely get your dave-lynch through tomorrow when I'm not around. ;) )

Why am I putting it like this?
I really have trouble trusting you right now. (also sowing the seeds for some crrrrrazy WIFOM towards scum on who they should/should not nightkill.. :lol: )

So....IF you are able to convince me that someone other than dave is SURELY scum, and will result in us surviving to another day if lynched, you can then easily claim your scum-win tomorrow when I'm not around. :roll:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #995 (isolation #102) » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:04 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Also - I want CT to give their reasoning on Chill/dave.
Like, can you see this ever being town pushing town? I'm curious. :]

And I want to hear more from dave. Anything.
But mostly I'd like to hear what scumteam of two dave would pick from Chill/CT/reundo.

And IF nonny is somehow scum, where is his buddy? :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #996 (isolation #103) » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:04 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

*her
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #997 (isolation #104) » Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:05 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

I read pronouns.
BuDucky is a He-duck.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1006 (isolation #105) » Mon Oct 22, 2018 9:44 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

So dave+reundo, and no other explanation works?

Humor me, and assume a scenario where I claim an inno on dave (obv. don't have one).
Now you are FORCED to come up with an alternate scenario.
Where do you go next?
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1008 (isolation #106) » Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:49 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

I'm not necessarily fighting the dave lynch, as much as I'm worried about what you are pushing/avoiding.

For example, I dislike the fact that you were raging and being very loud about dave being the only reasonable lynch for you today.
But in fact, it seems that reundo is just as much a lock to you as dave apparently is.
Then why not go for the reundo lynch "as much" from the get go?
Is there a specific reason for that?

Also with the way you have already locked CT as town, but not nonny.
One of the things that I DO feel certain about, is that nonny and reundo are NOT scum together.
Meaning to me, that if reundo is scum (and I'm still leaning towards "yes, they are"), nonny is town.
So I need to find the partner in Chill/dave/CT.
I'm still not at all convinced that scum!dave with a loud role would have played the way they apparently then did(??) with their night actions, so I'm hesitant there.
And behold - I'm back to "one of CT/Chill is scum". :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1009 (isolation #107) » Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:55 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Like...the thing I always end up coming back to...
I do not see scum!dave targeting Boon with a loud role -> going for a fakeclaim-Doc (apparently crumbed ahead of time btw) -> kill Boon the very next night after promising to save him..WHY?
I still just can't believe dave would ever do something like that as scum here.
That is like painting a target on your back, and then asking to be shot at. :lol:
That is not how I picture his scum-play at all.

I'm now wondering whether I have ever played with scum!dave as either alignment before.. :?
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1010 (isolation #108) » Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:59 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

I have seen scum!Chill however, and you always do the same thing that scum!Boon does.
You try to make me feel stupid because of "paranoia", and like I said before, I almost fell for it yet again this game!
But to be fair, that was before you began to put in more effort, and could have been town!Chill venting frustration as well.. (or trying to get his way done more easily) :yawn:

I'm off to bed.
I'm trying this again tomorrow.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1028 (isolation #109) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:21 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1012, Tchill13 wrote:I've already given my CT argument. Others should provide their thoughts. Boon had the most to gain by visiting CT because una said they'd tunnel CT and had CT been cleared that's a town block of CT, UNA, boon. Which also leaves the rest of boons scum team in the game.
And yet you don't see where we go our separate ways.
I'll start by saying that I can agree for now that Boon visited CT last night (if not you).
I'll also assume you are town throughout this post as to not get stuck on WIFOM-y shit.

You somehow think CT is town FOR SURE -> Boon didn't die of heart-attack -> dave is scum.

*this also explains why you scoff at the idea of something like a Strongman, but like to humor the idea of a Rolecop
*you have accepted town!CT, and that is the one thing that makes everything else resolve itself for you.

I still think CT is more likely scum than town -> Boon died of a weak heart -> CT is scum, and dave more likely town than not.

*why I still don't want to close out the possibility of a Strongman, is because Boon might have (in my mind) just as well targeted you last night, but died anyway. (you are town here)
*In my mind the chances for scum!dave are less than the chances for a Strongman, simply because I really think town needs a protective in this game.
And a Strongman not only fits what happened last night, but also weakens our Doc. It seems absolutely balanced in my mind.

*I don't think a RoleCop is necessary in this game at all, while most of you seem to think it automatically follows from Gammas death. Well, Gamma was likely killed because he pushed for two players especially - FA and CT. :]
*If no Strongman exists,
dave could still be scum with CT
(I mean, why not?)
if it wasn't for the fact that reundo seems like lock!scum for almost everyone right now.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1029 (isolation #110) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:23 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

I'm also becoming too tired to argue about CT/Chill right now, and think we should just lynch reundo today.
Just be prepared for Chill to be around pushing for dave, and me not being around to argue that.
I guess most of you should know what matters in that situation. :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1031 (isolation #111) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:57 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

..and it's posts like this that make me absolutely opposed to voting dave. ^^
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1032 (isolation #112) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:00 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1030, Reundo wrote:Also, if scum hammered you yesterday we'd be at 4 towns VS 3 mafia N3 and all scum would have to do is pull of a kill, which is pretty much guaranteed considering either dave's the protective or there's no protective at all.
So you have inside-knowledge that nonny is town then? :roll:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1034 (isolation #113) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:10 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1030, Reundo wrote:if scum hammered you yesterday we'd be at 4 towns VS 3 mafia N3
This implies that IF nonny would have been hammered by scum, THEN we would have lost over night.. :]

I think you might have slipped? :roll:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1068 (isolation #114) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:41 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

OK, I've gotta pop in to say something and vote now, as I am getting close to prod-range and the day is ending.
I've been "lurking" and trying to see who possibly fights the reundo lynch the most, or does the complete opposite and tried to "rush" it.
Since I'm not spotting either, I'll just default to saying his buddy likely just abandoned him as a lost cause already.
Chill trying to slow this down and force a dave lynch TODAY specifically is the only reason I'm still very suspicious of him, but even scum!Chill should realize that reundo is the lynch basically everyone else wants.. :?

I didn't want to remain in the center of the discussion, simply to give the scummies more chances to speak, but it seems no one did in the end.
So I suggest that we just get the most likely scum lynched today, and the ones who remain tomorrow can sort the whole dave-angle themselves.
And if reundo flips something like a Strongman, I think you all know why dave was not the target last night..
:roll:

All I can feel certain about is the fact that the last remaining scum is in Chill/CT/dave (= nonny has been town to me basically all of D4).
So if I'm the one who goes tonight (I think I'm the least likely mislynch at this point), I want nonny to be at least critical about whatever narrative Chill/CT bring in tomorrow.
And dave as well, depending on what reundo flips.. ;)

LEAVE THE REST OF THE NIGHTKILL-WIFOM TO THE SCUM!
:lol:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1069 (isolation #115) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:44 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

VOTE: reundo
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1070 (isolation #116) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:46 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1050, Tchill13 wrote:My issue is the two guys I'd like to lock town are fighting a Dave lynch harder than any lynch I've ever seen fought on this site.
My "issues" with you on this gameday started to pile on because you have been fighting FOR the dave lynch harder than I've ever seen fought towards a claimed Doc.. :lol:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1081 (isolation #117) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:46 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Agree with Chill here ^^
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1082 (isolation #118) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:46 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

UNVOTE: - just in case
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1084 (isolation #119) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:17 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Yeah no, this changes nothing.

VOTE: reundo
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1085 (isolation #120) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:25 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1072, Tchill13 wrote:If reundo flips scum we rush lynch Dave correct?
I'll cut you a deal!
If we lynch reundo today, AND I WAKE UP TOMORROW, I want dave speedlynched. :]

I'd say you should accept no matter what your alignment is.. :lol:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1086 (isolation #121) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:28 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

I'm off to bed.
I hope dave answers before the end of day, and I guess CT will have to commit to a wagon or accept a no-lynch.. :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1104 (isolation #122) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:57 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1097, Reundo wrote:My N3 target was nonny, and I detected motion around her as well. I thought it was best to check either her or CT since at least one of them was confirmed scum from the nonny wagon.
Yeah, that claim from reundo was likely supposed to save the situation for them but it only helped me out.
So Reundo is still scum.
The time for coming out is long gone, and the claim in itself is fake as fuck.
It also doesn't change the fact that reundo was one of the three on the nonny-wagon himself.
And their buddy is Chill.
I don't need to hear anything else anymore, I just want reundo lynched so that we can move on.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1105 (isolation #123) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:58 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1103, Tchill13 wrote:Reundo also unvoted Dave to vote nonny. Just so that's clear.
Is this you trying to say that they are buddies? :roll:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1110 (isolation #124) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:17 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1107, Tchill13 wrote:I'm not voting anyone but Dave this day phase.
But like seriously, WHY?
I've been trying to give you a bye the whole dayphase, and WIFOM the scum for tonights kill.
If you'd be willing to see that, you would have already realized what I've been driving at.
But since you seem to be as incapable of working together with me, as you apparently think we all are.. ech. :?

I'll do this once more, but from a different angle, and one question at a time?
What role do you think dave is?
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1115 (isolation #125) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:36 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1111, Tchill13 wrote:Loud role cop.
Based on what?
Compared to scum having a Strongman, AND dave being Town!Doc, why do you think them having a Rolecop is more likely?
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1116 (isolation #126) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:37 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1113, Tchill13 wrote:And on top of that nobody, NOBODY has town cleared nonny compared to una. We just started calling reundo scum, if not for the awful claim, I'd still be fighting that. If I was to lynch reundo here then I have to be sure nonny is town (I'm not) and that Dave gets lynched afterwards (as you and nonny jump the gun to call me scum with reundo) and if you look at the POSSIBILITY I'M ACTUALLY TOWN you'll see that in the scenario I'm town, this actually makes sense from my perspective.
I'm thinking you might be town, yes.
I'm thinking CT+reundo works as well.
Let's just do this step by step and see if we still disagree on things. :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1120 (isolation #127) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:18 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1119, Tchill13 wrote:You can't make an argument as to why scum would risk giving town an extra day phase with a conf townie opposed to putting town in lylo. You can't validate that. Nobody can.
..and you can't argue that something like a Strongman didn't resolve the night phase the way it did either. :facepalm:
You are being a pain to deal with, and then you wonder why I'm not following you.

I'm thinking dave handled his claim smart for a doc (obv. the same way a scum player probably would?)..
..and I JUST CAN'T SEE DAVE TRYING TO LOCKTOWN HIMSELF WITH A VISIT TO BOON -> KILL BOON THE NEXT NIGHT AFTER PROMISING TO PROTECT HIM. :lol:
Like, why?
Why didn't he claim a 1-shot-doc then?
Non-consecutive night -doc?
He just decided to claim 2-shot, claims to have a shot ready, and STILL they kill Boon?
You can't give me any reasonable explanation for that either.

I think CT was the first one to drop that whole RoleCop aspect, and I do really think CT+reundo is a possible way to go here.
You are acting so incredibly frustrated without actually being entitled to it, that I just don't feel like you should be scum..
Unless you think "protecting" reundo this hard was a good idea at first, and now you're just committed to it. :lol:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1121 (isolation #128) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:19 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1118, Tchill13 wrote:If you won't vote Dave then we won't agree long story short. You can continue though.
Meaning that I won't feel bad lurking to the end of the day, and waiting for CT to come and decide what they want to do.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1124 (isolation #129) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:23 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

I still think Boon visited in Chill/CT. :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1125 (isolation #130) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:29 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

I'm still thinking scum!Rolecop is poop.
Just because Gamma was killed, people even started to speculate the chance of a Rolecop.
I still think Gamma was a reasonable kill for scum if Gamma was potentially going to push in the right direction the following day.
..anyone check what that direction was going to be?
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1128 (isolation #131) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:32 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Why would I need to clear dave?
I just want reundo lynched smh... :facepalm:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1132 (isolation #132) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:39 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

"prove to me" anything at this point of the game. :lol:
You can't "prove" that dave is scum.
Just as I can't "prove" that dave is a Doc, scum likely has no Rolecop and might just as well have a strongman or whatever.

No proving at this point Chill, and you know it.
I'm not going to accept dave as a lynch today as strongly as you disagree to do it.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1133 (isolation #133) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:39 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1131, Tchill13 wrote:you're scared to death you'll read me wrong for the first time.
This I have no trouble admitting.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1138 (isolation #134) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:49 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1135, Tchill13 wrote:you'll never play with me again if i effect your ability to properly play a game. i can guarantee that.
Honest to god, I also hope you are scum over CT at this point.. :lol:
Because you have managed to make everything you say this dayphase so convincing that I'd be worried if it was LyLo over MyLo.
Shame if you lose this game only because Boon had two fantastic pages worth of content.
You've played well this game. :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1145 (isolation #135) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:05 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1142, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Right now if Una is scum, he's probably scum with Dave since there's no other reason for him to fight a lynch on a townie that hard as scum.
If somehow Chill really managed to sow this paranoia into your head.. :facepalm:
I am not fighting the dave lynch any more than Chill is fighting the reundo lynch!
How the fuck did Chill manage to get this idea to you through raging, that my attitude towards lynching dave is any different than his attitude towards lynching reundo? :lol:
Seriously.
Considering that I was "locktown" to Chill at the start of the day, I'm somehow scummy because WE AGREE ON A LIKELY SCUM? (The difference being that Chill doesn't want that scum lynched in a MyLo -> drives me mad with suspicion.)
I'm ready to resign from this game if we lynch dave today.
I will not be here to be mislynched because of thousands and thousands of AtE drenched posts leading into anyone suddenly feeling suspicious about me.
I put too much work for into obv.towning this game to not get mad if that happens..and I refuse to take the same approach Chill did, so.. :yawn:

Good idea on the wagon arrangement though CT, now we know nonny/reundo isn't the team. Although that was supposed to be clear for a while now.. :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1173 (isolation #136) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:11 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

I'll use some time on this later.
Obviously didn't move last night, and since there really shouldn't be any more roles, from my PoV reundo is certainly scum with that fake result. So there's really no reason for me not to vote there, MyLo or not.

VOTE: reundo

What I will say before work, is that you shouldn't let paranoia get the better of you CT and nonny.
Just because Chill got mad at me because of how stubborn I was, there's still three gamedays worth of content showing you that I'm clearly town.
My read towards dave was very much biased from the MOMENT Chill did that spam of posts.
It felt like he was finally making the effort to push for a win, and I usually spot his scumagendas better than anyone. There are only a few players I can really accurately "soulread" on this site, and Chill has been one of them. Well, I have to admit now, that my read towards him here was shamefully forced and affected by other players actions and reads. This lead to a dead-end of convoluted readpatterns and circular logic, and to be fair, Chill wasn't very easy to reason with yesterday either.. :roll:
..but yeah, I failed yesterday. We can discuss that aftergame.

If I wanted to WIFOM it up, I'd simply say that scum!Una would've done at least two things completely different this game.
1) Not leave Boon alive for any more than a night (at max)
2) I would've bussed dave in a hearbeat yesterday.
I have a vast history of playing with/against Boon on site, and I have a solid trackrecord of bussing.
If I really cared about appearences (=was scum), I would've bussed dave harder than a sloth crossing a motorway.
We would be in this exactly same situation, but none of you would've even seen Chill soft any suspicions towards me. :lol:
Instead I went the way harder route and risked the whole game by going against reason in a situation where I had absolutely no reason to..? Nope.

I'm uninformed here, and got dragged down by my pride and paranoia yesterday.
If you want to make an educated vote, use some time towards my ISO and you see I have had 0 agenda this game.
You'll see I was calling FA and reundo scum early enough (as well as that Vengeshot-pool.. :roll: )
I do not need to "case" scum!reundo here - that has been made multiple times already! :lol:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1174 (isolation #137) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:26 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1172, Reundo wrote:My N4 target was Una, and I detected motion around him. I was hoping for an innocent since it'll prove there was no way he'd make the kill unless there were two ninjas (extremely unlikely), but this complicates things a lot.
I know this is fake and therefore hard to make seem real...but this makes no sense from town!reundo PoV. :lol:
If your main suspicion was going towards nonny, you'd check there 100% of the time for the guilty.
Your claimed role doesn't give out hard guilties until this late to the game, and somehow you decided to not check your #1 suspect? Seems legit.
From your uninformed perspective, CT could still be scum.
So getting an inno on one slot is never as valuable as getting a guilty. :]
But hey, this does make sense from your PoV, since you are scum.
You saw one more way out when me and Chill started to throw down yesterday, and decided to bank it all on a faked guilty.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1175 (isolation #138) » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:36 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1172, Reundo wrote:The last scum is most likely Una at this point imo, but there's still a few things I'd like to think over first. I intend to try to use the full stretch of our deadline though, so if anyone has any questions/comments/concerns about my train of thought or about my role or whatever feel free to hmu.
..and especially this is just..wrong.
If you really had a guilty on me, you'd KNOW I am scum.
No need to not vote, or play the "politics".
You are trying to please nonny and CT here, instead of being true to your claimed role and alignment.. :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1178 (isolation #139) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:40 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1176, nonny wrote:Anyone else think Chill was a weird night kill from scum? Scum!una would have left Tchill because his hard push was working against him, he was looking like possible scum. Even with his push being justified I could see a push to mislynch him going through
I wanted to say this too in my first post, but thought it would sound too biased coming from me.. :roll:

I'm not afraid to go 1v1 with Chill no matter his alignment (or mine for that matter), and scum!Una would've killed nonny yesterday.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1179 (isolation #140) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:41 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1177, nonny wrote:
In post 723, Flavor Leaf wrote:Conclusion:
I’m pretty certain that the scum team is FA, Dave, and Reundo. Full stop.
Hmmm wonder if flavor just nailed the scum team day 3?
Boon has a habit of being able to do stuff like that.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1187 (isolation #141) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:29 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

I'm Vanilla, obv.
Motion Detector would make very little sense with a LOUD and a NINJA anyway.. :lol:
The other they wouldn't even detect, and the other makes noise anyway, so..poor fakeclaim.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1201 (isolation #142) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:39 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

If you guys really feel like doing this, then go ahead.
I do not see the need to do any more.

Boon called reundo scum.
Chill agreed reundo was more than likely scum.
There was that whole wagon situation I pointed out way before anyone else, that more or less proves that I'm not scum, and one of you three is.
So you know I am not scum -> reundo claims to have a result that guilties me -> he lies -> he is the scum within the three of you.
It's not any harder than that.
And that is without taking any stance on just how bad the fakeclaim in itself is.
I hope this game can be finished before the weekend so that I can move on.. :facepalm:
In post 687, UnaBombaH wrote:Oh, and unless it wasn't clear to everyone already - at least one of nonny, Reundo and Completly Trustworthy are basically confirmed scum now. OR we are facing a scumteam that just flat out sucks at coordinating.
You all know this is the moment I'm talking about.
If the scum team were to be me/FA/dave we would've hammered then and there for a MyLo-win. All of us had posted around/after the votecount before I made this post (just checked that).
So your scum!Una-theory dies then and there.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1202 (isolation #143) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:17 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1190, Reundo wrote:I have no idea what Una hoped to gain through lying about his busing record... maybe just hoping nobody actually goes and checks?
..when I actually upkeep my own wiki to make sure you can easily check my every scumgame?
Sure, I'd lie there. :lol:

1) I have more scumgames on my alt (feel free to disregard this because it's a secret alt. But it does affect my PoV when I talk about MY scumgames.)
I have also played a ton of IRL-mafia and other online-games after I started here.
So even if you checked all the 8 scumgames I have on this site with THIS account, it wouldn't result in you being able to properly analyze MY scumgame. :]
And when you say I only bussed in 1(/8??) of those games, I hope you counted out all the games where I actually died before my ally?
The ones where none of us got lynched?
The ones where I simply didn't get to vote at all because of how the dayphase ended?
THE ONES WHERE I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PUSH ON MY PARTNER EVEN IF I WASN'T ONE THE WAGON WHEN THE DAY ENDED?? :lol: (and THIS is what I do more than anything)
I bet you did your "research" fairly.. :roll:

2) My whole point of "having a solid trackrecord of bussing" meant mostly that whenever I do bus, I do it to win the game.
It's a finishing touch, an important play to close out the game.
But not something I'd do just because I could.
For example, go check my ISO in that Micro-game where you already made a mistake and corrected it. (I'm one of the reasons why ErrantParabola got wagoned and lynched in the first place. And I did it to gain towncred for the last day-phase to be able to push for the win alone.)
In this game, with how dave got pushed by Chill?
If I would've been buddies with dave here, I would've obviously had a clear vision on how bad the nightaction-results made him look and not be dragged down by my paranoia towards Chill.. :lol:
I would've absolutely bussed a scumbuddy-dave in that last dayphase, no doubt about it.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1203 (isolation #144) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:20 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

...and one more thing I forgot to clarify from above: I really enjoy "bussing" in the way that I do.
Push for my buddies, but try to stay away from the finishing wagon itself IF REASONABLE TO DO SO.
Has been working well enough so far.. ;)
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1204 (isolation #145) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:21 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

Plus reundos claimed results still make no sense.
ASDASASDASFSADASFGSADGSAFD. :facepalm:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1205 (isolation #146) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:29 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

I'm off to bed peeps.
I hope nonny keeps her head clear and doesn't get dragged into too complicated scenarios, but I might be the wrong person to scold anyone for that after last gameday.
I hope CT shows up big with his vote like he did yesterday.
But whatever you do, don't drag this out any more than it needs to.
If you make a mistake here, it's not the end of the world. I promise to you that no one has any reason to bash either of you for it, so just make up your mind and commit to it. :]

If you are really in any doubt, go read Boons ISO in relation to my play this game, and I have no doubt it screams town.
And for context - Boon might be the single best townplayer I have played a lot, and Boon+Chill combined might have the most "inside" knowledge and gutread-potential towards me on this whole site.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1209 (isolation #147) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:24 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1208, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Una to describe in detail why he was so fixated on me/Tchill days 3-4. I know he's described some of the reasons for his suspicions before, but i would love an overall summary.
I think it would be redundant for me to make a big write-up on the subject at this point, because I've already made quite a few posts about it. :]
Start reading my ISO from onwards.
It actually shows quite transparently my thought-process as I organically came to find a connection between you and Chill.
Chills actions furthered my paranoia towards him D4, and never actually gave me a chance to townread him -> never got the chance to even second guess dave.
If Chill had tried something other than emotional raging, he might have gotten through to me, but I've come to read his scum!AtE enough to get paranoid everytime he takes that avenue.. :lol:
If Chill had found a more calm tone for his message yesterday, I might have had a sudden realization of scum!dave, but maybe thats just hindsight speaking.
From my PoV, Chill was certainly scum, trying to get the last remaining mislynch through -> dave is surely town and not his buddy.
And that was a thought he didn't manage to break.
My fault as well as his I think - it's just that this time he was in the right and I was wrong. :]

And to be honest, I'd still be paranoid about you CT if it wasn't for reundos fakeclaim.
That finally and absolutely solved the game for me, so no need to worry anymore.. :lol:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1210 (isolation #148) » Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:39 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1208, Completly Trustworthy wrote:
I want to understand the thought process that led him to not push FA day 3
I'd actually like to disagree with this.
I DID push for FA, didn't I? :lol:
I was "discussing" the game in detail with Boon throughout that day, and I had already said multiple times that FA started to feel like a solid scumcandidate.
The one reason why he wasn't my #1 push any sooner, was because I was looking forward to solving the whole game that day.
In other words - because I was still stuck with my theory on scum!Chill/CT - I was trying to force a team with FA that didn't form naturally. :?
Yet again, hindsight is 20/20, but I should've probably realized sooner why Boon was able to nail the whole scumteam as fast as he did.
FA/dave/reundo vs CT/Chill/reundo. He had 3/3 while I was stuck with my 1/3 because I didn't feel like I could trust either of CT/Chill.

Once we had that awesome "Page of Boon" it became clear that FA was the one sure scum, and I would have to adapt my other reads to fit that - not the other way around.
Hope that clarified something. :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1248 (isolation #149) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 7:57 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

Release the PT!
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1249 (isolation #150) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:19 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

Thanks to all for the game.

@Chill
- you almost made me pull my hair out when you basically solved the game and refused to compromise on a reundo lynch.
If I was playing to my best, I would've simply looked for a way to appease you and act enlightened. Voted dave, and then won today anyway. (I think :shifty: )
Instead I wanted to keep my head and argued you for absolutely no real reason, and almost threw the game in the process..good job on my part.
You played the last dayphase, and had you been more active earlier, you would've won this game for town after Boon was in the dirt.
Love ya man, I hope you never really want to blacklist me! :?

@Boon
- I'm happy I managed to somehow pocket you this game.
Even if the game itself required some very frustrating reveals from myself in regards to my usual scumplay, I'm still more satisfied with the first ~three gamedays.
You still managed to solve the game (like, what the actual fuck??? :lol: ) on that one horrible, horrible page that no one should ever try to mimic when I'm scum ever again.. :facepalm:
When I reread that page, I realized just how close you would've been to solving the whole game (=including me in scum), but I had managed to pocket you BEFORE you did that effort.
Had I begun my process later, or had I missed some of the opportunities I found, I think you would've named me as potential scum, and that could've already made all the difference.
Had I tried to climb into your townblock AFTER that page...I think this would've been another scum!Una-failure at lategame. :lol:

@Mods
- Thanks a lot for the game!
The modding was great, and I as well thoroughly enjoyed the flavor. Simple, yet brilliant.
BuDucky, you know you have claimed into my heart already from the time you still had a ban-sign for cats! (or was it wolves? dogs?) :?
Brafin, I hope to see you around more, I think we have passed in some games already, but not many times anyway. :]
I just sincerely thought you were a goose before this game, but now I know... :roll:

@Gamma
- I actually wanted you killed N2.
Simply because I have played a few games with you before, and I was afraid of you the most D1/D2. Imagine that! ;)
I had a hunch that I was off to a decent start, but still had work to do with Boon.
However, I felt certain you would then pair either the two of us as scum, or just push me as one while I'd do my best to turn Boon into my protective angel.. I couldn't have any of that, so you had to go! :twisted:
Seems it payed off in more ways than one... :]

@everyone else
- enjoyed playing with you all, and this game actually had multiple players I have enjoyed playing with before as well! :]
Hope to bump into you guys in the future!
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1250 (isolation #151) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:20 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1226, the worst wrote:very well wolved sir, I could tell you challenged yourself to go further this game and needless to say, you nailed it!
I think I needed this game more than I realized when I joined in! :]
I also wanted to look good in your eyes BuDucky..! :oops:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1251 (isolation #152) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 8:23 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1222, Tchill13 wrote:I'm about as irritated as una is happy atm. Of course I literally only put in effort one day phase so my irritation probably isn't valid.
Most of town didn't get to put even that much effort in.
And you are the one reason why dave got lynched, I'm 100% convinced of that.
If you hadn't "showed up" then and there, town would've lost already.
You did your best there - now if you manage to do that kind of stuff THROUGHOUT THE GAME and convince others to join you...that's the Boon-level IMO. :]
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1256 (isolation #153) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 9:16 pm

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1254, the worst wrote:I'll always remember you as an Umbreon, just a little.
I'll be returning to Umbreon shortly, actually.
Venusaurs ass was just a by-product of a devastating war between the Grass-type starters! :lol:
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
User avatar
UnaBombaH
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
User avatar
User avatar
UnaBombaH
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6538
Joined: June 27, 2017
Location: Finland

Post Post #1262 (isolation #154) » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:09 am

Post by UnaBombaH »

In post 1261, profii wrote:I think you were at mylo in the last day? Was there any thought in your head to no lynch and motion detect una again? I think he would have no killed but then you keep doing it to force him ofc
But then scum would've done the latest kill, so town would have to be the ones to kill first. At least by most rules.
"If Unah’s scum, consider me a random $20 on the ground, cuz I am pocketed."
-Flavor Leaf to scum!Una
Locked

Return to “Completed Mini Normal Games”