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What's the hurry?In post 24, Carcalilly wrote:hey guys enough RVS let's Lynch someone
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Hey look, there’s activity! And we are out of RVS. Last time I checked just asking for those things to occur doesn’t make them happen. If there nothing to comment on then there is no activity.In post 47, Reundo wrote:, I'm less convinced by nonny's push on / question to Carcalilly, since it came after Tiphaine's vote + the question asked was pointless + it also came after Tchill's call for more activity, so it read a lot like a grab for towncred. Not really a fan of Tchill either, but nonny irks me more out of the two.
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Lynch happy much? We have a week, and your idea is to give up that time and enter day 2 with no content other than 1-2 flips and one wagon to look at? Seems like a waste.*insert bad joke here*- nonny
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Did not mean you specifically are lynch happy. Went to 4 votes overnight which seems quick, upon review realized that lynch here is 7 not 5, so far I've only played newbie and micros since my hiatus so 4 looked like L-1 which seemed very quick.In post 55, Reundo wrote:
So me voting you == I want you lynched immediately, apparently? I don't know why you feel you're the "end all be all" wagon today, and even if that were true there'd almost certainly be a counter-wagon to you by the end of the day.In post 50, nonny wrote: Lynch happy much? We have a week, and your idea is to give up that time and enter day 2 with no content other than 1-2 flips and one wagon to look at? Seems like a waste.
See above. So far only played 5 vote lynch. And way to beetleguiseIn post 80, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Sorry, I haven't been posting, some real life issues came up.
I don't like Nonny's 50, It's odd they immediately think Reundo wants to lynch them with a lot of time left to talk. That conclusion doesn't feel natural, especially since Nonny doesn't really follow up on her accusation. That seems like early distancing to me.
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Do you always post in haikus? Can you give a little more please. Where should we be looking for example?
This feels like a stretch.In post 73, TiphaineDeath wrote:Reundo's post #47 says "lack of inactivity." This is a mistake that reads to me as a re-typed post. It started as talking about inactivity or lack of activity and was edited badly. That type of editing in regards to a post means he is thinking an awful lot about how it will be received, on a post this early, that inconsequential, that reads as scum to me. VOTE: Reundo*insert bad joke here*- nonny
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What's the benefit to a NL? It'd be better to flip someone, just currently hard to pick who. But really don't get why you'd jump to NL. I'm sure you know the % of it being helpful.In post 103, Carcalilly wrote: At this point I’m not even sure if it would be beneficial to lynch anyone today?
Trying to shrink the possible PR pool? Who would actually answer this, like what was the plan with this?
Did not see a need to quote all three just to ask about the weird posting style. He mentioned me but that was it. Otherwise he didn't mention much at all. It was feigning activity so trying to flesh out why.In post 122, Reundo wrote:In post 84, nonny wrote:Do you always post in haikus? Can you give a little more please. Where should we be looking for example?
Considering profii mentioned you in the post right after this I don't see what your concern is. You expressed concern over three players in your post -- why didn't you vote any of them?
Posts 135, 140-143 is just off and weird. Not sure what to make of profii at this stage but so far don't like it.
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Still good with profii wagon. Liking the current questions, don't have very much more to add right now.
Carca: are you leaning one way or the other on SvT CT and Profii?
I'm going to be somewhat limited access this weekend due to a work conference but should be able to post atleast once a day.
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You don’t have to say names but do you know which two?In post 231, Flavor Leaf wrote:
But it makes sense.In post 229, Flavor Leaf wrote:Not gonna lie, I’m pretty pissed about that night kill.
Which is why this next part is gonna be fun.
I’m an odd night watcher. 2 people targeted Profii last night.
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Obviously. Just meant didn’t expect names right then and thereIn post 237, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Of course he has to say namesIn post 232, nonny wrote:
You don’t have to say names but do you know which two?In post 231, Flavor Leaf wrote:
But it makes sense.In post 229, Flavor Leaf wrote:Not gonna lie, I’m pretty pissed about that night kill.
Which is why this next part is gonna be fun.
I’m an odd night watcher. 2 people targeted Profii last night.
I am disappoint. Very disappointed.
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He also claimed a PR as well though...In post 286, Tchill13 wrote:Anyways, ignoring the gambit, wasn't profii the 2nd leading wagon at the time of lynch? That's an odd night kill.*insert bad joke here*- nonny
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Going back to start of day 2 for catch up, not sure how much i'll actually come up with.Spoiler: nai i think
Wait...which wagon? The lynch wagon or the profii wagon? Because later you say the exact opposite...In post 230, Flavor Leaf wrote:Profii being killed however implies low amount of scum on that wagon, though. Considering it was a quick lynch, that makes sense. I’ve seen those be all town before. I’m going to look off the wagon.
1-2 scum on wagon, max.
Some of that gambit-gambit post talk I don't full get but looks almost like insider talk with those 4 (?) so whatever i guess.
Did not notice this prior. But why? Wheres the benefit other than having votes out? Plus didn't work....In post 301, Gamma Emerald wrote:I want everyone to vote in their next post with a one sentence explanation of why they’re voting who they are voting
Agree with this assessment and don't think i could phrase it better so will just quote it.Spoiler: long quote
Fair point in 322
Not sure I like 332 333 like thesubtlei'm town mention and do you think FA is scum or not? Like why not just say it instead of compliment FA and yourself, Flavor?
335 then why aren't you voting either? Or anyone for that matter?vote in 337
Why? Is this a setup thing or another reason?
290 makes me townread TChill.
I don't see FA scum at this point. Voting vengeful townie just gives us more flips and more info, right? I'm for that and would vote there. Otherwise I'm leaning scum on carca currently. Got nothing on Wilky. Not sure I know how to read Flavor (why boon?) but currently below null. Everyone else null or above for now.*insert bad joke here*- nonny
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Is that for sure lynch? Feel silly adding one more vote for nothing.
Understand why I’m in the pool so not going to argue with it, can see outside perspective where it looks I’m lurker, agree with the other options.
Apologize for my activity level, I should have /out’d before this started because accidentally over committed, but really don’t want to replace. Should be able to give more attention here if I’m around for day 3. (Not trying to AtE just feel need to give explaination, take it how you will).*insert bad joke here*- nonny
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Where is the assumption Gamma watched Profii coming from?In post 507, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Alright, I have a theory on what the scumteam is. I'll make my case tomorrow when it isn't so late.
Also, the mafia team probably has a ninja and an investigative role because Gamma didn't see anyone visiting Profii on N1 and can't see why he would be killed over other options. Flavor, can you fully claim?*insert bad joke here*- nonny
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Can’t see scum!CT not just faking a Target but don’t see why a VT would fake claim except to save their own ass. It wasn’t to draw the night kill like he says when there were already claimed tracker/investigative role. A doc wouldnt be a huge threat.
Flavor you confuse me in nearly every post. You said just last page Tchill is lockdown barring RB but now he might be scum because he SR you for not being legendary scum hunter this game?
CT: so you essentially find all my posts scummy but not enough for a vote and only on the conditional of FA being scum?*insert bad joke here*- nonny
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Therefore; it makes sense that I and Flavor lived.[/quote]
Only on the premise scum knew or guessed Gamma was a watcher. Show how you think scum knew this? Is there a breadcrumb? Is there a claim?*insert bad joke here*- nonny
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CT you accuse me of misrepping while linking a post that doesn’t say what you are implying it says, you say I’m the one that pointed out the weirdness of you and FA being alive. That was posted by someone else after me, at work currently and can’t pull quote. I pointed out your narrisstic gambit and how it’s antitown. There is still time to solve and I want a reread prior to voting, but if I had to vote now it would be on you, not omgus but know it’ll look that way.
Tchill said it well, why would 3 scum narrow in on you? Why did you explain your gambit with now real pressure? You’re timing is odd and stands out:
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I said it would look like omgus but wasn’t coming from that place. I am self conscious as a person and it leaks into all of my games, look at any of the newbie game I’ve played since July, not purposeful but just real life character flaw the leaches into my game play.In post 605, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Also, I didn't like the fact that Nonny said their vote wouldn't look like OMGUS. If she had voted right then, would anyone have thought of that as an OMGUS vote? That and their insistence in 499 that they weren't using ATE seem to me like her being overly self-conscious about what others think of her.
Dave’s post re:CT gambit claim I can see and better explains CT’s possible intention but still not sure I like the whole scenario.
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In regards to una’s 620 I still see CT as most likely scum. Haven’t at this point narrowed down partner pool. I’m still due for my reread and head back home tonight, depending on how late I get home the reread will happen tonight or tomorrow after work.
To answer Reundos read list request partially from earlier, prior to reread I’m still TR FA, chill and slight on una. Scumlean on flavor and reundo, and SR on CT. Everyone else is fuzzy and I need to sort. Hoping reread will help me sort remaining and confirm these reads.*insert bad joke here*- nonny
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Didn't realize it was that lowIn post 675, Tchill13 wrote:Nonny has 23 damn post.
I don't see scum selling out other scum at this point in the game.
Curious, how many of dave's 40 posts are "sorry I'm too busy", slightly throwing shade but also curious.
What do you mean by the last sentence?
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To a point. I see no reason for them to act unnatually to each other at this stage. They are probably confidant what ever they are doing is working and thus not diverging from that.In post 680, Tchill13 wrote:Do you agree with my statement that scum have no reason to throw one another under the bus. If anything, scum should be empowered in their position to TR their teammates.
Can see where that assessment comes from.Tchill13 wrote:That's my point nonny.
Between you and Dave, there's 50-70 game related post.
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-First wagon, happened to be me, but only 2 of the remaining players were on it, Reundo and CT. Rest are dead and town. Was it opportunistic? CT def looks that way, his vote came in 80 after tchill votes CT and calls him out on lurking.correction, tchill was also on wagon but one of first to unvote
-Reundo stayed on me even through 2-3 other growing wagons. This feels town to me, scum would give up and move on, he stuck with me (for 3 days too), tunneling but still not just look for easy mislynches
-128 is in hindsight funny --accidental foreshadowing….just gotta point that out.
-151 Reundo’s questioning of CT jumping wagons stands out, doesn’t look like a partner interaction even for distancing. TvS?
-Profii PR claim, then Tip is quick lynched. Had ~2 days left until deadline at that stage. The 4 on wagon prior to the start of quick lynch at 208 have since been conf!town. Dave, Tchill, and FL are the final 3 votes in about 6 hrs with only 4 of the 13 players posting between them. Did scum jump to end the day with an outed PR? Scum could be in those 3 but probably not all 3.
-230 from FL still doesn’t make sense to me. Why wouldn’t scum be on a quick lynch?
-May be nothing but worth noting CT felt the need to say more than a simple “no” regarding FL gambit. Hmm Dave also changed the wording. Only benefit I see is to have an out if FL did accuse them of something. Una points out in 292 that dave may have been the target of the gambit.
-260 still feels town. Also in 286 not sure about plausibility of faking not remembering profii claimed PR. Scum would remember since that’s most likely why they killed him. Why bring it up at all if tchill is scum?
-Then 291 calls out CT for staying on profii, but he didn’t even post between the PR claim and the end of day. CT didn’t post much generally day 1 but odd thing to SR over given the lynch was quick.
-Dave’s lack of interest that FL was doing a gambit stands out.
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Based on re-read of the early game and memory of recent events gotten to the point where CT is still scum read, his early game and the fake claim all look scum motivated. Dave is also scumread based on early game, only memory of his recent posts is him saying he can’t post now. Given how hard he was saying “come on guys, increase activity” day 1 this is odd.
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Was mobile and couldn't go look at playerlist and honestly keep forgetting how many players are still around. Gave memory reads off the people I could remember. Also, think it's stupid to include yourself in any reads list.In post 637, UnaBombaH wrote:
It's only dave andIn post 635, nonny wrote:Everyone else is fuzzy and I need to sort.nonnynot listed in this post...and I think you might townread nonny, or..? So, uh...not much fuzzy to clear then, eh?
Scumlean and scumread are different standings in my book. I don't do reads on a black and white scale (town/scum scale), I do reads on a spectrum with deviations away from null. *shrug*In post 637, UnaBombaH wrote:This is rather surprising to me, as I'd guess there's likely no need to list at least both scumbuddies into scumreads at this point?
Meaning at least reundo wouldn't perhaps ever be scum with nonny then? (unless CT somehow read their role-PM wrong? )
Also want to point out, that I got the feeling of "need" to put a separate "SR on CT" after the two scum"leans".
Dave and CT are most likely scum, can't pinpoint the 3rd but at this stage we just need one red flip.
tchill is closer to null than town than prior.
FA is still town, his posts tend to align with what I see and I can only trust myself right now.
FL and Una are hard for me to sort and cross back and forth over the null line a lot.
Reundo moved up to TR.
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Can you expand on this? Not sure I fully get what you mean.In post 687, UnaBombaH wrote:Oh, and unless it wasn't clear to everyone already - at least one of nonny, Reundo and Completly Trustworthy are basically confirmed scum now. OR we are facing a scumteam that just flat out sucks at coordinating.*insert bad joke here*- nonny
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So you mean the scumteam sucks at coordinating becuase they haven’t successfully pushed a mislynch and won?In post 689, UnaBombaH wrote:
We are in MyLo right?In post 688, nonny wrote:
Can you expand on this? Not sure I fully get what you mean.In post 687, UnaBombaH wrote:Oh, and unless it wasn't clear to everyone already - at least one of nonny, Reundo and Completly Trustworthy are basically confirmed scum now. OR we are facing a scumteam that just flat out sucks at coordinating.*insert bad joke here*- nonny
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Given FL’s other crumbs pretty sure he meant he was targeting Una with that last post of day 3.
Tchill: so you mean you? You were the one FL said was town unless he was RB.
CT: I feel like you are making that all more complicated than it needs to be. Could just be that Dave faked claimed just like you did and therefore FL had no protection last night. Also he said he was a investigative day 2 but day 3 said he was a weak visitor iirc. Long and short is you are trying to clear Dave for the failed protection and make it look like more might have happened then might not have.
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Una: we’ve had only one kill the whole game...not sure I understand the question. Is there a mechanic I’m missing?
Note CT unvotes when Tchill posts TR on him
What benefit would reundo have in tunneling an entire game? It seems like very weak scum play to just push one mislynch. That was the only part of my review that I got hung up on. It did give him an excuse to be off most (all) the lynches. He did also coast becuase no one really looked at the fact he was tunneled becuase I’ve been brought up as a SR by others most of the game.
Tchill: my point was not to make you be my out if a CT partner was wrong, my point was to pick your brain and get more info from what you were posting. Maybe I don’t look like I’m game solving but I mostly likely to ask questions and check responses, I’m still practicing sorting well and typically don’t post my thought process on how I’m sorting others in the moment until I have a good read. By self aware do you mean that I know how my own meta looks? Personally I don’t like meta becuase it is so easily manipulated. And so far since my hiatus all of my completed games I was VT, so merely know I play the same in all my games and in all those games I’m brought to L-1 atleast once, if I was really self aware I’d probably try to play in away that doesn’t bring me under suspicion every time, I’m not even sure what it is that does it nor have I looked into it to change whatever that factor is. I may have an old join date but I’ve been gone for 10 years and I’m relearning, some of these roles mentioned this game I’ve never played with.
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I have made my stances. I’m not going to continue to post 40 more posts. I prefer to keep asking questions to see where others heads are to continue narrowing the field. You choosing not to answer the questions just keeps making it difficult to sort. I doubt scum would do such a long diatribes to get one person lynched when there are much easier lynches around. I’m down to CT, Dave, and reundo. But with less to look at from the former two this game day I’m resorting to questions to see associations. You can look at as me trying to steal others stances if you like but this is how I sort:*insert bad joke here*- nonny
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Reundo: saying I’m scum becuase I wasn’t quick hammere is an easy out. The most I got to (official vote count wise) was L-3, so where would the quick hammer even come from?
I personally don’t like to just include a post I flat out agree with, it’s lazy and not helpful. Before my catch up I had already reference FA’s post in day 2 (on day 2) that I agreed with. I have not played a 13 player game since hiatus and didn’t think about the set up, that’s also what happened when I thought I was L-1 day one. Read as a gambit if you want but this game is making me feel dumb and inadequate *shrug* I am legitimately trying to do my best and did flake a little previous days becuase it got overwhelming. I regardless do not post every little thing I think, maybe that’s not best practice but that’s me.
Your post is not overtly scummy, I still am on fence if your tunnel day 1-3 was scum being lazy or town thinking they’d figured it out.
I agree the most likely night action from scum was a kill.
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How? If you're wrong there is no going "from there" we just lose. There are two scum left, right? So why the focus on just dave? Who is his partner? You are putting a lot of effort into Dave. I agree dave looks scummy but there is a case for over half the town currently.In post 953, Tchill13 wrote:I want Dave lynched. Then we go from there. The issue is that if una is town and doesn't vote with us scum have to bus to get Dave lynched.
I'm going to spend time looking at Isos and partners. Apparently everyone has written me off as useless but I am still trying to figure this out too. Will post once I have something that contributes. The last 3 pages has accomplished on thing, which may have been the goal, made it all more unclear than it already was.*insert bad joke here*- nonny
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Got through iso'ing Reundo and Dave. Chose them because well, they have the smallest post counts currently. Reundo has 18 posts, just found that out threw this and know I'm low, but come on!
Start with reundo since his post count is lowest:
122 Find if funny that Reundo calls out Dave on calling out someone else on lurking……big loop of pot/kettle there. Just saying.
Note; early wagon on CT has FA, tchill joins with no posts from CT to support. Reundo calls Tchill out on it. Reundo and Tchill not likely team. (post 79 VC). Keeps up the questioning in more than one post, wasn’t just a one off.
Reundo questions CT changing wagons in 151, not in such a way as too guilty CT back on to the wagon, since it’s the wagon rend was on it’s interesting that he’s asking motives on vote switching.
Reundo doesn’t join the easy mislynches. He in fact was not on any of the mislynches.
307 Joins FA in shading Flavor for his gambit and drawing out real PRs.
422 describes how he doesn’t see scum!FA. Doesn’t want to do the vengekill, wants to vote carca if they are scummy, plausible from town perspective but also could be scum not wanting a death they are not directing.
Follow up in 451 does read more town not wanting to use themaybevengekill.
This stands out. Like maybe it’s thinking outloud. But also could be where Dave’s role came from? If dave is scum then this just pointed out a perfect out and mislynch. Dave could have independently had this thought sure, but it’s very coincidental in that world.In post 575, Reundo wrote: I'm iffy on Tchill. I didn't like his tunnel on Carca, and a lot of his Flavor scum-read relies too much on Burden of Proficiency and paranoia. He seems to only be paying half attention to the game since he apparently can't even keep track of who was night-killed, and honestly it's hard to tell whether he's doing this intentionally or not.Honestly though, I think it's best to just assume he's town for the time being unless the loud player claims a protective.I think there's a decent chance there's a role-blocker, but it seems too much of a gamble to lynch him right now when otherwise he'd pretty much be confirmed town assuming Flavor's telling the truth.
Reundo flips to scum reading FA by 575.
Overall agree with 921, esp dave’s circles are round and not boxes part. Most of it I already addressed and replied to though. What I don’t get is the TChill TR.
Reundo Iso leads to town iso, which is same conclusion I reached day 3.
Reundo, why is Tchill your highest townread?*insert bad joke here*- nonny
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Now Daveaz because I’m lazy and doing least posts to most posts.
If 210 is a crumb then sure. But it’s also possibly just a typo being used to advantage. Latter is more likely because….you didn’t save profii. Profii was killed night 1. So yeah maybe you saved the shot instead, but why point out your crumb if you didn’t actually act on said crumb? Is it even a crumb at that point?
749 Does address this but still doesn’t feel good.
Love the explanation of why he can log in to vote Tip after just posting V/LA. like the level of paranoia on being called out on lurking, that just shows as self aware lurking. It happens throughout.
401 I agree with Tchill. The reaction to CT’s claim is odd. Even more so with the speculation on set up. I’m not familiar with setup anymore, but a 13 player game with 2 protectives and at least 1 other confirmed PR at this stage, seems high. Wouldn’t it be odd? I could see a larger game having more protectives. Why would dave want to cover for CT though? This only makes sense if CT and Dave are partners and dave knows CT’s claim is fake. Otherwise its Dave really thinking there are two protectives, which again doesn’t seem right.
475 is making me go look at the pages of talking about the vengeful shot.
CT: wants me or FA.
Tchill: dave, wilky, popo (lurkers) after reundo was veto’d
FA: wanted no one
Reundo: doesn’t want carco/vengeful.
Una: “Fa/wilky/???”
Daveaz: nonny and wilky.
From this alone Una and CT are town. I see no reason for scum to put their partner in this pool.
Tchill is shading Dave for not having FA on his list, but neither did Tchill?
I'm still on fence with Dave.
Lynches:
1. Daveaz and Tchill are the only nonconf town on the Tip lynch. Apparently FL (still don’t know why he’s called Boon) is known for hammering. I don’t see dave and tchill as partners. There is no reason for tchill to be bussing dave this hard when almost any other player could be mislynched currently. But scum is probably in one of them, a full town lynch day 1 doesn’t seem likely, I’m sure it’s happened but seems less likely.
2. More currently alive were on carca. Dave, Tchill, Una, CT.
3. FA lynch, dave was not on it. Dave and Reundo are the only living players that were not on FA.*insert bad joke here*- nonny
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Most of what FA posted was innocuous, which in hindsight was probably the goal. Wasn’t much worth referencing. Again, he didn’t even stand out as being in the game until his name was being thrown around for wagon/vengeful.
Do you think the 3 scum had instant hammered prior? Why is them not doing it to me a tell? This doesn’t pan out general, just becuase they physically can doesn’t mean they will, nor would it nessacarily be an advantage. I’ve almost been the mislynch everyday, would assume scum want to keep that around if they start to flounder, since apparently I’m not much a threat otherwise.*insert bad joke here*- nonny
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Ugh, typed up nice post and it got eaten.
Shorter summery. I agree with Una on possible slip. I was willing to vote dave too Tchill but not anymore.
Reundo: you saying that looks more like you trying to clear yourself while shading me. You and CT were voting me. And scum wouldn’t know that would win hem the game unless they knew dave wasn’t a doc.*insert bad joke here*- nonny
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I’ve been skeptical with those three all day, no worry una.In post 1068, UnaBombaH wrote:
All I can feel certain about is the fact that the last remaining scum is in Chill/CT/dave (= nonny has been town to me basically all of D4).
So if I'm the one who goes tonight (I think I'm the least likely mislynch at this point), I want nonny to be at least critical about whatever narrative Chill/CT bring in tomorrow.
And dave as well, depending on what reundo flips..
LEAVE THE REST OF THE NIGHTKILL-WIFOM TO THE SCUM!*insert bad joke here*- nonny
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So almost every other claimed and confirmed role in the game has a number limitation (even.odd, 2 shot) but yours is unlimited? Those are the worst crumbs I’ve ever seen. Looks more like you went looking for them after to me *shrug*
Also your result is not confirmed scum. If any movement is confirmed scum then Una is confirmed scum too.
I’m just vanilla plain and simple. I have no night actions, so if your claim is true, which I doubt, the movement was not from me. I doubt Flavor would have visited me too based on his crumb.*insert bad joke here*- nonny
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Yep. Just looks like attempt to clear chill and push mislynch, along with buddy you (una)In post 1104, UnaBombaH wrote:
Yeah, that claim from reundo was likely supposed to save the situation for them but it only helped me out.In post 1097, Reundo wrote:My N3 target was nonny, and I detected motion around her as well. I thought it was best to check either her or CT since at least one of them was confirmed scum from the nonny wagon.
So Reundo is still scum.
The time for coming out is long gone, and the claim in itself is fake as fuck.
It also doesn't change the fact that reundo was one of the three on the nonny-wagon himself.
And their buddy is Chill.
I don't need to hear anything else anymore, I just want reundo lynched so that we can move on.*insert bad joke here*- nonny
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Reundo, I still think your claim is bs. Also, there was not as much suspicion on me day 1 as you are saying, I could see that being your reasoning day 2 but not day 1. The only thing that makes me hesitate is the posted mod error followed by your retraction on seeing motion around me. But that’s it. Your conviction that I’m scum regardless of your claimed results is faulty, what’s the point of having “results” if your just explaining them away.
At this point I am willing to hammer Dave purely to end the day, I’m 75/25 on him being scum at this stage. How hard tchill is pushing is what’s gross to me though.
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