mini normal 2027: advice mafia (endgrame)

[Gamma Emerald]

hello all

[Gamma Emerald]

Hello, this is my first mini game on this site.
VOTE: I Am Innocent, since they are surely not innocent.
Garmr, why are you not voting, do you dislike the rvs stage?

I don't mind it but thought I'd try something new.

Early scumread, if you were town I'd expect you to actually

try

something new, not just posture like this.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: horrordude0215

Clowns. Really?

Clearly scum. Who else but scum would have a CLOWN as an avi...

Wh4t, input on this if you haven't given any yet

[Gamma Emerald]

And I have confirmed knowledge of Jk so preumably I can live into the game

You're stupid, you're in the NRG and aren't aware of the possibility of enabler without the accompanying role?

[Gamma Emerald]

apparantly you claimed some PR I've never heard off

well im the jailkeeper disabler

I see I was wrong to ever think you were anything but an asshole

[Gamma Emerald]

i feel like i single handedly inspired that mod note

i'm not sure what that saud entrance was actually it felt v forced

VOTE: Saudade

i remember you now
you lynched me as vanilla town in our previous game together for the exact same reason
dont remember your alignment tho but you might want to review how you read people

Hmm..... or should I say lol?

You’re admonishing her for lynching you in a previous game where you were town, but admit you don’t recall her alignment in that game? If she were anything but town your argument is pointless.

That’s a very lazy thing to say IMO. Or a very shady thing to say.

Hello Havo
Do you still dislike D1?

[Gamma Emerald]

1. Please provide a link to completed games with you as scum and town
2. What do you believe is the optimal scumhunting strategy? What scumtells do you think are overrated?
3. How would you describe your playstyle as scum?
4. Do you enjoy being scum or town more?

Oh hello, I see you're a man of class CT
1: Uh, I have so many games it's hard to give a good sample size. Read my wiki if you care for it. If you want links you'll have to specify what you want.
2: I generally try to probe around and ask questions, though sometimes I forget to follow up, as has been pointed out a couple times in the past. On that, I feel like not following up on questions is kinda overrated, but what's more overrated I feel is the idea that someone is "not sorting". That quite subjective and unfair, just because someone doesn't play like you exactly doesn't mean they're not sorting.
3: I try to set up associations to help my team get through to a victory. As such, I can get down with bussing if I feel it's advantageous.
4: Town in general, but I enjoy scum more if my whole team is invested, as it helps us control the game.

[Gamma Emerald]

apparantly you claimed some PR I've never heard off

well im the jailkeeper disabler

I see I was wrong to ever think you were anything but an asshole

Well that's completely inappropriate young man

disregarding the swear, you're still rude

[Gamma Emerald]

CT who did you reasonably expect to reply to post 80 and why? The whole thing seems pretty LAMIST.

Elaborate on this, I think I like the tone of this objection.

[Gamma Emerald]

Nothing of that claim comes from a town mindset IMHO. There is a LOT there that I can see coming from a scum mindset.

I can see how it's anti-town but I think you're getting confused with anti-town vs scum mindsets. How does him claiming what he has help scum? He hasn't asked for the JK to claim, so I'm not sure how he would achieve role-fishing with the claim, and also he would leave all other PRs free to use their role on his buddy as they would avoid using it on RC with his claim as he may be Jailkept.

I'm not trying to hard defend RC but I just don't see how pulling this gambit benefits scum. It actually doesn't benefit either alignment except maybe a very paranoid town!RC, who thinks he's keeping the JK active by claiming. From my recent experience with RC, this isn't as far fetched as scum!RC outing himself for no obvious benefit. I would prefer if we did the normal scum hunt thing today and if RC is still a main suspect after a few decent wagons then by all means, however the claim is not a scum claim in itself imo.

Following this I also townlean saudade for his joke-counterclaim entrance. I know it's been a few years for you but OMGUSing someone isn't really something that scum exclusively do now. Saudade reads carefree and arrogant in tone which is something I think scum would try to avoid in their posting, so as not to rub people the wrong way. IME scum try to stay under the radar and what RC and Saudade are doing isn't that lol.

I don't really put much stock in this idea but RC could be claiming thinking to draw JK onto him, letting his partners kill freely.

[Gamma Emerald]

3 bote wagon already! How interesting!

What is interesting is that you felt the need to comment on the wagon w/o taking a stance.

Active lurking...

I am not active lurking.. er.. wasn't

I was passive lurking, bro

why are you arguing this?

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually thinking about it FA can be a scum read. I found his entrance awkward, he then froze only to appear later pushing RC for his claim in a totally nonsensical way. He then continues to scumread RC for wanting to policy lynch him in a way that makes me feel like he knows RCs alignment. RC and FA are not SvS unless this is some dramatic scum theatre but I don't see why FA would inflate the suspicion already on RC this early.

Also, now instead of assessing my play as a whole to get a read on me he just nitpicks the post where I found him scummy in a way that feels defensive. If you were objective town you wouldn't feel the need to ask me designed questions to throw shade on me, when I'm cleary a threat to scum by being a player who easily obv.towns. I also dislike that your push on me is half-hearted, with no conclusion and no vote.

VOTE: FA_q2

I'm a bit curious about you obvtowning, I don't recall you being very obvtown in clownspiracy, I recall your claim clearing you

[Gamma Emerald]

viewtopic.php?f=51&t=76883

i dont like to post games in which I lose

why

[Gamma Emerald]

Just keep howling like a wolf.

It will make the game easier for us townies

Why do you think what Havo is doing is howling, you're having a personality tiff is all your doing

[Gamma Emerald]

it reminds me of my flaws

so rather than improve you just choose to ignore them, really intelligent

[Gamma Emerald]

no omgus in this b!tch

I believe it

[Gamma Emerald]

thank you for confirming me as town.

VOTE: texcat

doesn't want me to be confirmed town

What's your mom's number

So uh what the fuck is this? Just because texcat is confused you lockscum them and then try to ask for personal info? I'm kinda thinking you're town, but this is definitely stuck-up RC that I remember from playing with you (what I think was) the first time. As such, not putting much stock in your reads.

[Gamma Emerald]

Here are some questions for players I want to hear more from:
What are your reads so far Sky?
Garmr, why did you put Texcat as leaning town in your readslist? I don't think you've said much about them.
Horrordude, you said you scumread DT at one point, what caused you to change your mind?

yeah this is town

[Gamma Emerald]

it's not a case
its a joke
but you're so defensive

I'm like 50-50 on whether I agree with this
but I definitely am getting the sense Saudade is town

[Gamma Emerald]

it's not a case
its a joke
but you're so defensive

The line of what's a case and what's a joke with you is a blurry line.

Yeah now I think Garmr's scum

[Gamma Emerald]

Hmm, everything I found remarkable over the last 4 pages

It seems like me that DT just doesn’t deal that well with being under fire?
Their defense(s) make barely any sense.
I’m twisting my mind over whether it’s scum or too scummy to be scum… It’s not helping town in the least that’s for sure though.
Best scum!DT can hope for at this point is to be called town exactly because of this -> so that for me would take the unlikelihood of this being scum away again.

Tex again commenting but not progressing it seems. (page 12)

VOTE: DoubtingThomas this is fine for now

I can live with IAI lynch too but he's at L-2 which I guess is enough pressure for now

I think if HWS' comment on tex are accurate I could see myself voting there

[Gamma Emerald]

I could lynch gamma. There's way better reasons to call me scum (even through they are wrong). But mainly because he was personally attacking attacking Sausade personality wise then calls him town and goes on how much he agree's with him.

I doubt town would do that.

I was personally attacking him because I'm trying to be funny. We had a past game where we had a bit of a personality disagreement, and he's consistently using condescending humor, so I'm firing back in kind.

[Gamma Emerald]

gonna guess havo is town from associatives and that scum is Wh4t/CT/+1

why do you think CT is scum

[Gamma Emerald]

we've wasted like two days on the IAI wagon

Thoughts on the IaI wagon around this time? Who do you think is scum on it?

[Gamma Emerald]

You ask it as a question and not an accusation and not in terms of anyone's alignments

the fact that she's been buddying me isn't really in question, the question is why

You guys aren't masons are you?

Why vocalize this?

[Gamma Emerald]

now we prepare for gamma emerald to make awkward posts and then lurk and get mislynched on d4

Ex-fucking-scuse me
which game are you referencing

[Gamma Emerald]

g... gawd I love openwolfing

I see scumminess :>

No way to respond to that except to
VOTE: the worst

Yeah I can get behind a texcat wagon

[Gamma Emerald]

like straight up

100% of the time TW/Garmr

and very high probability of FA_Q2 for third slot.

Your FA_Q2 read is just based on their reaction to your claim is it not? I think it's a fair read if so but just making sure

[Gamma Emerald]

beetlejuiced

still too lazy to contribute rn though im too busy bingewatching avatar episodes

[Gamma Emerald]

also I've held back just how scummy I find tor's short stint in the game because I wanted to see how wh4t responded to that entrance but I'm getting bored of waiting for the day that never comes.

I just realized RC has been making a lot of references and it's concerning me a bit

[Gamma Emerald]

i just want this over.

no one on town besides me had a single correct read as far as I can tell

Even someone who shares you reads?

[Gamma Emerald]

let me catch up first (unless <24 hours remain)

[Gamma Emerald]

I held my tongue which im usually good at but im kinda getting snarkier after seeing stuff like that and after just coming out of a game where

someone mocked they/them pronouns

like i feel kinda jaded with this site at the moment. oh well. understandable that im still being suspected of buddying. dont worry, ill find a way to spew town eventually.

okay who the fuck did this

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma should talk more
in my first game on this site she was an easy townread

I don't recall this btw

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma should talk more
in my first game on this site she was an easy townread

I don't recall this btw

Our only game together prior to this
U were universally townread but still managed to get lynched

Yeah, whatever happened there is probably on OTM
And Garmr wants you to verify that we had an argument in that game btw

[Gamma Emerald]

people should just vote FA_Q2 so I don't have to actually make that case because cases take effort x_x

I kinda agree with you on FA_Q2
but if you're wrong do you promise to reconsider your reads at least I little? I don't want you pile driving the same slots all game just because you think you're right.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm happy to drop that so Saudade doesn't get in trouble.

Why would he? The game's over and has been for a while

[Gamma Emerald]

thanks bb

rc why are you trying to give bread to a duck

the crumbs destroy their tummy

Did you know feeding rice to birds makes them explode once they drink water, since rice is so absorbent?

[Gamma Emerald]

Oh I thought you meant it was ongoing. If it's done link me up then.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=75603
Our little spat was d2 (I think)

[Gamma Emerald]

for some reason I've never thought of just memorising shitloads of duck puns what kind of duck impersonator am I

When I played through Pokemon Black 2 for the first time I gave my ducklett a name inspired by you (Malla, based on the word mallard and the spanish word mal, which means bad)

[Gamma Emerald]

there's gonna be some sort of 'oh i didnt want scum to know who my partner was when i flipped' rebuttal but yeah that never happened and hasnt' happened in any game I've ever seen over the past 5 years so

Yeah I'm with RC here

[Gamma Emerald]

@Saudade
@Gamma
@HWS
@Tex

go time babes

Once I catch up, you got it

[Gamma Emerald]

Caught up

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: FA_Q2

[Gamma Emerald]

Im with RC that that was not normal distancing but w/e
I'll try to see who was coasting towards EoD

[Gamma Emerald]

Tex why garmr?

Probable for his next to last post

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't object to a Rc lynch. But think it's possible that RC is just bad town. I think Garmr is more likely to be scum, based in large part, on Krazy's read.

In this case then, please explain why the change from D1.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't object to a Rc lynch. But think it's possible that RC is just bad town. I think Garmr is more likely to be scum, based in large part, on Krazy's read.

You think RC is just “Bad Town”? Seriously?

When has RC ever been just Bad Town?

Sometimes
I recall in my first game with RC he was pretty off the mark on reads, and was VERY pushy.

[Gamma Emerald]

Lol so me asking questions when the reasoning I get is different than what I expected is bad? Ok

[Gamma Emerald]

Didn't realize the thing havo said was directed at tex, would have likely made the same comment anyway there. As for the others I was like "the reasoning kinda feels obvious to me so I'll just say it".

[Gamma Emerald]

Well I wasn't paying attention, plus as I said I would've said the same thing knowing that as it's a meta-question.

[Gamma Emerald]

RC seems contrite. Garmr isn't.

What does this mean?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm conflicted by RC

On one hand I doubt he'd want to be the leading push for a mason mislynch.. On the other hand I've gone along with the "it's RC he can be very pushy as town" train of thought (if that makes sense) so maybe scum!rc thinks he can get away with this? Anyone who has like, more meta experience with RC?

I'm also fine lynching texcat, tbh. TW doesn;t convince me either, but at least he's active which may help in reading him later, tex isn't that active.

That's my $0.02 for now

RC is pushy as any alignment

[Gamma Emerald]

yeah that's a bit wonky power-wise. Masons are like two cop clears balance wise, so I think Watcher make it a bit much on the investigative end. Maybe I'm dumb though.

[Gamma Emerald]

I didn't want to mention it but I have x shots

Nice. I didnt want to explicitly state this before Garmr reacted, but I was thinking it would make better sense if garmr were somehow gated.

[Gamma Emerald]

And btw if anyone wants to challenge my setup spec I have a game backing this thinking up that I will present if needed

[Gamma Emerald]

Watcher can't clear it's whatever. I just find it hilarious garmr has a guilty within a week of saying he should fake a guilty in the endgame of Espe's normal.

Watcher is actually equivalent to cop in terms of power.

[Gamma Emerald]

What point are you making?

[Gamma Emerald]

well except presumed clears under pretty spectacular circumstances but ye

pedit : that 2 masons + watcher is whatever setup wise

No it's not, as I said watcher is about equivalent to cop, and masons are equal to x cop clears where x is the amount of masons.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also my past experience with garmr includes him guiltying town and me being forced to decide between pling him for it and lynching my game long scumread. I did win that but like

Regardless of garmrs alignment, if the claim is real garmr is too high threat to leave alive so nah.

What threat? Now that a scum is caught, watcher can't get another hard guilty until that scum dies.

[Gamma Emerald]

Probably going to get me lynched but Yolo. I did fake it I thought I was going to get all these responses to use as data. I mean I been setting it up since day 1. But everyone guessed right away. I was going to reveal on the tip of texs lynch.

Give me your thoughts on reactions ASAP.

[Gamma Emerald]

Though why would you claim x shot if you intended to retract anyway?

[Gamma Emerald]

Hi, why are you answering for Garmr when you know that's something you shouldn't do? And I thought of that myself, I just wanted to see if he'd squirm when I pressed him. So thanks for ruining that.

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma Emerald, I made that post because I wanted to see how you reacted to an accusation. I'd say your stated motive for asking Garmr why he said he had x-shots was pretty good, so I can get behind that line of thinking. Now, you're one of the players alongside Ruby Red I'd like to hear more from. So far you've commented on many posts from the game, but I would like to know what your current position on all the players is. Can you post a reads list for everyone still alive?

Ordered or not?

hi i'm bored of this game so i'm going to let postie post for me glglglglglglglglglgl

So you admit that was true

[Gamma Emerald]

Hi, why are you answering for Garmr when you know that's something you shouldn't do? And I thought of that myself, I just wanted to see if he'd squirm when I pressed him. So thanks for ruining that.

So you literally are allowed to answer for texcat but if anybody else answer for me that's wrong?

No, what I'm saying is that after I received backlash, he did the same thing, so I was more asking why he did something he knew would probably not be looked favorably upon.
And tbh if he agreed with my logic, why preempt your response?

[Gamma Emerald]

TW, you don't get to vote twice lol. Also, has anyone here played with Havo before? Does he typically try to solve the game on day three as he is here?

You mean day 2 right
And what do you mean solve on day [two]?

[Gamma Emerald]

You ask it as a question and not an accusation and not in terms of anyone's alignments

the fact that she's been buddying me isn't really in question, the question is why

You guys aren't masons are you?

Why vocalize this?

I've been searching my ISO for threads that haven't been pursued to my satisfaction, and this is something that needs re-opening for discussion, since we have flipped masons. Honestly, this disturbs me as it means Garmr had them on the brain without (as we know) anything to clue him into the idea.
Also as far as I've seen Garmr hasn't used the results of his gambit at all. That makes me VERY suspicious as I know it CAN be useful.

[Gamma Emerald]

also I've held back just how scummy I find tor's short stint in the game because I wanted to see how wh4t responded to that entrance but I'm getting bored of waiting for the day that never comes.

I just realized RC has been making a lot of references and it's concerning me a bit

I want RC to respond to this thought

[Gamma Emerald]

You ask it as a question and not an accusation and not in terms of anyone's alignments

the fact that she's been buddying me isn't really in question, the question is why

You guys aren't masons are you?

Why vocalize this?

I've been searching my ISO for threads that haven't been pursued to my satisfaction, and this is something that needs re-opening for discussion, since we have flipped masons. Honestly, this disturbs me as it means Garmr had them on the brain without (as we know) anything to clue him into the idea.
Also as far as I've seen Garmr hasn't used the results of his gambit at all. That makes me VERY suspicious as I know it CAN be useful.

^When you don't even realisew you came off the scummiest when dealing with these things.

Are you directing that at me, if so why?

[Gamma Emerald]

And tbh if he agreed with my logic, why preempt your response?

CT please engage this, this is talking about you

[Gamma Emerald]

1.Results it was pretty much a failure since everyone pretty much figured it out anyway. Sky gazer vote on me looks suss through that's pretty much it. Oh and your weird reactions around me seem scummish.

2.I had masons on the brains because, I have dealt with masons a lot recently like in all my finished games since I been back.

Fair on 2, but on 1 what the fuck? No one figured out it was a gambit, it was just everyone calling your bluff. I know you can do more because in a previous game Ginngie did quite a bit with the same damn gambit. Therefore, you're either lazy or lying your ass off.

[Gamma Emerald]

uhh

gamma

me making references isn't scum indicative by any stretch.

Really cos you've used it as scum for various things, you've told me yourself

[Gamma Emerald]

Gamma, the reason why I preempt Garmr's response despite agreeing with your logic was because I didn't know why you were asking Garmr that until you responded. That was when I realized we were thinking along the same lines. Now can you please give the reads list I asked you to make?

Well I have been working on reads, the problem is I have scumreads but diddly for townreads

[Gamma Emerald]

1.Results it was pretty much a failure since everyone pretty much figured it out anyway. Sky gazer vote on me looks suss through that's pretty much it. Oh and your weird reactions around me seem scummish.

2.I had masons on the brains because, I have dealt with masons a lot recently like in all my finished games since I been back.

Fair on 2, but on 1 what the fuck? No one figured out it was a gambit, it was just everyone calling your bluff. I know you can do more because in a previous game Ginngie did quite a bit with the same damn gambit. Therefore, you're either lazy or lying your ass off.

No offence but are you dumb?

If they call my bluff how is my gambit supposed to work as it realise on people believing me?

Well you explained it somewhat well it seemed. Plus even if people called your bluff you can still try to sort that.

[Gamma Emerald]

why are we not lynching wh4t who came in with a rly shitty scumread on me and then didn't do anything else

That is one of my scumreads tbf

[Gamma Emerald]

Alright
VOTE: Wh4t

This is L-1, I want everyone to confirm they're okay with what has been discussed before any hammers are dropped.

[Gamma Emerald]

so now that i know tw is town

VOTE: Havo

game state points towards bussing when RC, me, Havo, and tw were on the wagon. RC was town. I'm town. TW is town.

Talk about how the gamestate points to that?

[Gamma Emerald]

I still don't understand the case on wh4t even after he flipped scum.

He wasn’t playing to his town meta

[Gamma Emerald]

Havo, why did you vote for Texcat after saying Skygazer was scum?

Also, I don't like Sky's insistence that the scumteam must have been bussing. Two people voted GE, so that would have been an attempt at a counterwagon. I don't understand why she is certain the scum were bussing.

Also, have you solved game as you said you would in 1445 Havo?

There’s a question I asked you earlier about something you asked about Havo, I can quote it if you can’t find it

[Gamma Emerald]

Looking at Texcat's ISO, the only comment about GE before the vote was in 859, so I would like an explanation as to why they did it.

Also, Garmr, the reasons why I didn't vote Wh4t immediately are these:
1. I didn't like the fact that the same people who mislynched FA were all agreeing to get Wh4t as well. I thought that since there was probably at least one scum in there, it might be a bad idea to follow their lead.
2. I figured that if only Wh4t was pushed or questioned, there would few AI interactions regardless of Wh4t's alignment. If he was scum, then all teammates would surely bus for example. However, I believed that if I presented other potential lynch targets, then the reactions from others would be telling.
3. I also thought that some people(like TW) were not answering questions and needed to be pressured.

The reasons why I changed my mind were these:
1. I didn't feel that great about Wh4t, as posts like 690 and 1425 demonstrate.
2. I liked RC's unvote and revote after I suggested he be lynched if Wh4t flipped town, the fear and uncertainty he showed seemed more likely to come from a town perspective than a scum perspective. Since he was one of the main people pushing the wagon, that made me feel better about it.
3. Once two quick votes were cast against GE, I started to suspect that the scumteam was trying to start a counterwagon.

Texcat still is scummy for the same reasons I’ve felt they were scummy the whole game: the lack of presence reminds me of our scumgame together in Large 213

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, have you solved game as you said you would in 1445 Havo?

Yes I have.

Texcat and Skygazer are the remaining scum.

I voted Tex because I didn’t want to get into a 1v1 with Sky right now.

the sky is green

This confused the fuck out of me for a second

[Gamma Emerald]

Ignores your point?

I disagree with everything you said.
Because it’s ALL wrong.

I don’t think you’re scum. So you need to really evaluate what this is.

1640 totally ignores my point ok nice thanks
1641 also ignores my point
1642 is just bad self meta


ok thx

I agree 1640 is bad, looks like complaining about being caught

[Gamma Emerald]

Since this game just finished

I wish he hadn't said 3-shot bulletproof, I would have claimed mason if he hadn't made it totally unbelievable

This came from a scum krazy game when a townie claimed to be masons with him.


This influenced my thought process on how krazy may act around masons. If krazy was town (he didn't flip) it made me think he would more likely to accept a fake offer.
If krazy was scum it made me think he would regret accepting the mason claim and would jump on it if the opportunity was better(which I was right for that game).

Best part is he moans about distancing fails but decided to rail on RC for calling his mason buddy out for that here.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah compared to my last 2 games with him HWS has been v quiet

[Gamma Emerald]

Bleh Ruby any thought on anyone else?

[Gamma Emerald]

I kinda want to lynch ruby cos RC said Saud/wh4t was a thing and I think that's a good lead to follow
but I'll read RC's ISO for why saud/wh4t was proposed and then see if I agree

[Gamma Emerald]

@gamma ye but immediately after RC scumread ruby and got reactions he came back in and put them as their top townread so like it felt like a reaction test that ruby had passed

Alright
Still wanna go back and check that

[Gamma Emerald]

get a tattoo

Vote count 3.2

Havo (1):

Skygazer

texcat (1):

Havo

Garmr (1):

texcat

HeWhoSwims (1):

Completly Trustworthy

the worst(1):

Ruby Red

Completly Trustworthy (1):

the worst

not voting (3):

Gamma Emerald, HeWhoSwims, Garmr

with 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. day 3 ends september 26th at 10:50 central US time; in (expired on 2018-09-26 10:50:00)

mod notes

• tw is vla
  
• page 69
  
• phone vc

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This vote count shows a pattern and Idk what to make of it
There’s two same-size chains of 3 people voting the next person in the chain, and everyone is involved in those chains but me.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: texcat
Nothing better comes to mind rn so I’m just gonna go with my scumread on Tex that I had D1 that Tex has done nothing to change

[Gamma Emerald]

why are you fucks joining the obvious counterwagon smdh

Why aren’t you supporting this, you wanted it all of D1 right?

[Gamma Emerald]

Lynch obvscum semi slipped AtE flailing Havo. Texcat has shown some signs of towniness, I'd call that a bad policy lynch

lol @ rubez voteparking me while I'm low effort
if she doesn't post like more regularly and reasonably well I can't recommend giving that slot a pass

Maybe she’s shown signs of towniness but she’s still ringing scum to me.
Plus how tf can it be a counter wagon to something with 1 vote?

[Gamma Emerald]

How is Havo flailing scum? And Idk about Havo, my gut says she’s Town

[Gamma Emerald]

Nah

[Gamma Emerald]

Sky is like, in my top 2 ppl on maffiuhscumme she's amazing
Mmmmmmm I really really really want to sheep RC on Ruby but I'm second guessing it

I get some town vibes from everyone except Ruby and Gamma.

Yeah I don’t trust this at all
I’ll start by asking you why I just shut down after bussing Wh4t. Why wouldn’t I have a better game plan entering Day 3?

[Gamma Emerald]

Sky is like, in my top 2 ppl on maffiuhscumme she's amazing
Mmmmmmm I really really really want to sheep RC on Ruby but I'm second guessing it

I get some town vibes from everyone except Ruby and Gamma.

Yeah I don’t trust this at all
I’ll start by asking you why I just shut down after bussing Wh4t. Why wouldn’t I have a better game plan entering Day 3?

Oh who knows? I do know there’s nothing in your ISO that’s remotely town.

And since you admitted it, why have you “Shut Dowm” at all?

I shut down because RC wasn’t leading the game, essentially
And I’d try to argue with you about “nothing in my ISO being Town” but there’s really no way to argue with that without diving myself, which I’m not in the mood to do. Honestly the accusation is EXTREMELY easy to skate on because you don’t have to actually give any evidence.

[Gamma Emerald]

Sky is like, in my top 2 ppl on maffiuhscumme she's amazing
Mmmmmmm I really really really want to sheep RC on Ruby but I'm second guessing it

I get some town vibes from everyone except Ruby and Gamma.

Yeah I don’t trust this at all
I’ll start by asking you why I just shut down after bussing Wh4t. Why wouldn’t I have a better game plan entering Day 3?

Oh who knows? I do know there’s nothing in your ISO that’s remotely town.

And since you admitted it, why have you “Shut Dowm” at all?

I shut down because RC wasn’t leading the game, essentially
And I’d try to argue with you about “nothing in my ISO being Town” but there’s really no way to argue with that without diving myself, which I’m not in the mood to do. Honestly the accusation is EXTREMELY easy to skate on because you don’t have to actually give any evidence.

Well I don’t care to argue with you. Debate is more my preference.
I don’t need to present evidence, everyone is free to ISO anyone. I’d like to see any quotes of yours that people think are towny posted by anyone.

With calling a post scummy you have to explain how
Calling a group of posts not towny doesn’t require that same explanation
That’s why it is lazy

[Gamma Emerald]

are you trying to argue that people should be townreading a fake guilty

Are you trying to argue that scum me did this on a slot i could of probably pushed to lynch at the time after I pushed to lynch masons day 1?

This looks a lot like an admission of guilt in lynching the masons.

He never said wasn’t responsible in fact we went over this d2, you’re just twisting things at this point

[Gamma Emerald]

Look at where my vote is

[Gamma Emerald]

While I think Havo’s reads are shitty I don’t think Havo is scum
Though I might have a better grasp on this CT ever answered my fucking question on what he was asking about Havo.

[Gamma Emerald]

basically we lynched a mason d1 their partner was killed n1 then we lynched scum and rc got shot for being town and Havo is suuuuuuper wolfy

Does this mean I don't have to read anymore?

Wrong
Read ISO’s of people on the chopping block I guess

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Garmr
No sell on the AtE WIFOM

[Gamma Emerald]

@Gamma,

Who’s the scumz?

I’m still feeling Tex as scum
Not sure about the other
Today might be a good time for a massclaim

[Gamma Emerald]

I think an official order would be a bitch to organize, so probs popcorn
What Brian said is a good idea btw

[Gamma Emerald]

This is taking a while
You know what they say about claims taking a long time...

[Gamma Emerald]

{havo, texcat, nauci, bskies}

bskies and tex probs not partnered

nauci kinda wolfy

honestly for both gamma and tex i've been kind of going off of "if they were scum it probably should hav ebeen obvious by now"

So why is Tex in your scumlist but not me

[Gamma Emerald]

VT
Popcorn to

Havo

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[Gamma Emerald]

In your position I’d have probably trusted a mason claim more but w/e, your role makes sense balance-wise

[Gamma Emerald]

A lot of sense actually, all the town PRs inter mingle in that case

[Gamma Emerald]

Mafia would need a power PR or 2
Probably Rolecop I think at least

[Gamma Emerald]

plus there'd be a significant chance of me outting the masons accidentally

Good point
I’d say 1 strong Maf PR is the most likely event

[Gamma Emerald]

Ew paranoia just set in wrt Sky’s claim
Tex mentioning Havo being able to confirm the loud part of the role made me concerned that the claiming having targeted 2 dead people could be a cover for the the claim not having actual backing
Please tell me if I’m being an idiot

[Gamma Emerald]

well you managed to strengthen my townread on you at least

Eh why?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: texcat
Still feel like this is the play
Compare her play to Large 213 and tell me it isn’t similar (warning that reading that game might take a while)

[Gamma Emerald]

I looked at them when I did “meta” for that game
There’s still a noticeable difference imo

[Gamma Emerald]

You not contributing in any meaningful way.

[Gamma Emerald]

Nope

[Gamma Emerald]

Nope

[Gamma Emerald]

Well played

[Gamma Emerald]

Nauci’s slot hasn’t maintain constant activity though

[Gamma Emerald]

Skygazer being mafia did occur to me but if she is then Havo has to be most likely

[Gamma Emerald]

You do know what AtE and WIFOM mean right

[Gamma Emerald]

Havo confirmed Sky’s action so either Sky’s real action is loud or Havo is scum with her

[Gamma Emerald]

Game is 13 people tho
And 3 masons v 3 Mafia was considered balanced for a long time (maybe still but it seems to have vanished) in 13p normals, so work around that framework and it’s perfectly feasible

[Gamma Emerald]

I didn’t realize you were as new as you were
I think I have that issue with a few people who joined in 2017

[Gamma Emerald]

Btw the most recent game that resembles the 3 mason: 3 Mafia setup I described was a 12p with 2 Mafia vs 2 masons and no protectives
The last run of the exact setup I described was Mini 1890
So hopefully that unbalanced cancer is officially in remission

[Gamma Emerald]

Holy shit get well soon

[Gamma Emerald]

did i incorrectly locktown CT

cause that was one of RC's strong scum reads and like the way Brian just voted Nauci with texcat is eh

Also, your 180 here when you don't even have a stance regarding Nauci/Gamma is noted.

Why does that matter? You’re voting with the person you were just voting.

[Gamma Emerald]

Anyhow, we've got four days.

And to be honest, I did come into today thinking texcat was probably the best lynch, but I'm not really sure she is anymore. Basically, I thought Gamma would still have an incredibly awkward scumgame. But after taking a look through some of his more recent games, I'm not so sure about that anymore, especially since he seems to be improving.

Also, the entire 'texcat isn't progressing the game' and 'texcat isn't putting in effort' or whatever arguments don't really resonate with me.

And I guess I can see how someone wouldn't want to vote a mason on Day 1 if someone else claimed mason with them. Or how someone might think Garmr wasn't remorseful enough about lynching a mason on Day 1.

Also, not really a huge fan of a tex/Nauci scumteam because that would mean the Wh4t wagon was an all-town wagon (cue Havo and the 'this site is obsessed with bussing', because it's true).

Also, some paranoia on Gamma regarding the Wh4t wagon since his scumread and vote there seemed to come out of nowhere (1489, 1491.

No?
I swear I said I agreed with RC’s logic somewhere

[Gamma Emerald]

Ruby Red 100% Town
Havo 90% Town
Skygazer 83% Town
Brian Skies and Nauci meh
Texcat scum

[Gamma Emerald]

What are your thoughts regarding what I've said about the Nauci slot?

Idk, kinda skimmed that

Also, can you explain your scumread on texcat?

Already posted it

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like texcat has been coasting, which was similar to how they played in another game where we were both scum, so I think Tex is employing the same strategy

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like texcat has been coasting, which was similar to how they played in another game where we were both scum, so I think Tex is employing the same strategy

Coasting how? Can you demonstrate this? Looking through her iso I don't get the same feeling.

brian skies has requested replacement.

What the fuck Brian

[Gamma Emerald]

Hold up I need to check something

[Gamma Emerald]

Ok so Traffic Analyst gets a negative on final mafia
That explains the kill choice
And the blocked claim if true tells us mafia have an rb, which makes sense as a lone mafia PR as mafia RB is considered strong in normals

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t think Brian steers towards Nauci THAT hard btw as scum
So it’s between Tex and Sky for me

[Gamma Emerald]

Just because it's the standard default, doesn't mean that it has to be that way, does it? It seems to me that I've seen PMs that said you can't use a power and kill unless you are the only remaining scum.

That was before Multitasking became a thing though right?

[Gamma Emerald]

And tex not receiving the notif about getting visited is consistent with Sky being blocked

[Gamma Emerald]

Did anyone justify their vote on me AT ALL?

[Gamma Emerald]

Texcat what the fuck
Why does Brian bus in that scenario, he probably had a free ticket not to

[Gamma Emerald]

Gg all I shouldn't of been so focused Texcat would of got scum. =(

Hey I did the same thing (and I stand by my read. If texcat wants to get upset he can prove how it was wrong himself)