Should a vig who shoots N1 be Modkilled?

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Yes or No?

Yes
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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:10 pm

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UberNinja is this how you play Mafia?
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:39 am

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In post 124, Yosarian2 wrote:The point is that if you think a vig is going to be right 100% of the time in the long run you don't actually understand how mafia works.

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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:19 pm

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NO!
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:30 pm

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In post 116, Justin Timberlake wrote:if I'm a vig I'd self vig so I don't end up voting confirmed town in lylo

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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:31 am

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yes, they should.
2019 stats: Town WR 76.7%, overall WR 81.667%, 1 scum defeat involving a major mod error in lylo vs 8 scum wins.
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:17 am

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how do i play vig
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:16 am

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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:50 am

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lol dumbest thread
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:50 am

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Everyone who voted yes is a cunt
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:41 pm

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In post 0, DoomYoshi wrote:For playing against win condtion.
Except in extreme cases, so voting for yes doesn't mean it's automatic. It would still be up to the mod of course.

Some players say no: a player should never be killed for using their role.
So, what if a vig shoot an innocent child?

Vig is already the most anti-town town role (I consider it strictly worse than PGO). Some players say that vig should never shoot at all (I tend to agree in most cases).
Holy balls this is stupid.
In the hypothetical “OH WHAT IF VIG SHOOTS IC?”, why the fuck would it do that in the first place? If it does though, idk about modkilling but probably blacklist that player.
As for shooting n1, I think calling n1 shooting bad is like calling D1 lynching bad (at least for the reasoning I’ve seen for each, which is similar). And I think neither Vig nor PGO are “the most anyitoen town PRs”. PGO can be used well siometimes, and vig is swingy, not antitown.
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:48 pm

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In post 134, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 0, DoomYoshi wrote:For playing against win condtion.
Except in extreme cases, so voting for yes doesn't mean it's automatic. It would still be up to the mod of course.

Some players say no: a player should never be killed for using their role.
So, what if a vig shoot an innocent child?

Vig is already the most anti-town town role (I consider it strictly worse than PGO). Some players say that vig should never shoot at all (I tend to agree in most cases).
Holy balls this is stupid.
In the hypothetical “OH WHAT IF VIG SHOOTS IC?”, why the fuck would it do that in the first place? If it does though, idk about modkilling but probably blacklist that player.
As for shooting n1, I think calling n1 shooting bad is like calling D1 lynching bad (at least for the reasoning I’ve seen for each, which is similar). And I think neither Vig nor PGO are “the most anyitoen town PRs”. PGO can be used well siometimes, and vig is swingy, not antitown.
The OP meant N0. Like, a vig taking a shot before the game starts is a generally bad idea.

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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:34 pm

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No in a later post OP explains they really meant N1, not N0
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:34 pm

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In post 135, Kublai Khan wrote:The OP meant N0.
I don't think this was ever estalished
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:46 pm

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And tbh I had a game where I hipfire OMGUS day vigged a powerful scum role D1
So I think there are highs and lows to vig play, the best thing to do is just do what you think is wisest
And even if you do screw up you can do what I did in a different game and kill a role that outs a scum fakeclaim
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:44 am

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I think it was what the OP meant, it was made in 2008 and back then Night starts were more common

And dayvigging at the start of Day 1 is equivalent to quickhammering
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:52 am

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In post 36, DoomYoshi wrote:FTR, I do mean N1, not N0, but N0 is another interesting choice.
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:09 am

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In post 139, BNL wrote:I think it was what the OP meant, it was made in 2008 and back then Night starts were more common

And dayvigging at the start of Day 1 is equivalent to quickhammering
That’s not what I said I did but w/e
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:35 am

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Lynching D1 should be against the rules
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:41 am

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In post 142, Creature wrote:Lynching D1 should be against the rules
Indeed, D1 lynch is bad for town
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:00 am

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ban lynching and have the scum NK decided by die roll
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:14 pm

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In post 144, Invisibility wrote:ban lynching and have the scum NK decided by die roll
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:16 am

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One time my favourite role in my game got dayvigged day 1

I made sure to make all day vigs "night 2+ dayvig" or something similar from then on
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:20 pm

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Honestly if you get shot as town N1 there are 2 reasons
1. you deserved it
2. The vigi doesnt know to work with town
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:30 am

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The mod should never be modkilling unless the player breaks some serious rules, and with the ability to force out and replace players even than it's minimal for a need for it.

If you think a vig should be mod killed for using it's ability change it to a suicider, you get one shot, you use it you die too, if you get RB you still died as you failed to hit your target, Gives your desired Kill and sacrifice.

That's how I would do it while avoiding the need to modkill and leaving the choice up to the player.
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Wed Nov 07, 2018 11:03 am

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Gonna say:
Vig shooting n1 is fine
But if you don’t like it make him a novice.
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