the worst Idea Mafia - Game Over!

BNL · Post Post #134 (isolation #0) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:55 pm

Hey, the game started when I was sleeping

Catching up

BNL · Post Post #135 (isolation #1) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:04 pm

Ok having just woken up my mind isn’t that good for scumhunting...

BNL · Post Post #137 (isolation #2) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:20 pm

Yeah, I like to play the game and start scumhunting from the very beginning. But I don’t always get good reads...

BNL · Post Post #138 (isolation #3) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:01 pm

I found the discarded roles role-wise to be quite duh

BNL · Post Post #139 (isolation #4) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:06 pm

Wait actually, Cheeky's discard is a bit suspicious.

@Mod Does Post Streamer count as a role or an alignment?

I'm thinking that if it counts as an alignment, this alignment card would have been chosen over a town alignment card...

BNL · Post Post #142 (isolation #5) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:12 pm

Those roles might have been fun but not actually powerful.

Well, except for Invis' pagetop role...

BNL · Post Post #145 (isolation #6) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:23 pm

What I am saying is, why would you choose Town alignment over an Alignment that can win with town but also in an alternate way?

BNL · Post Post #146 (isolation #7) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:24 pm

I mean, since the neutral wins with town, there's no reason to pick town over neutral...

BNL · Post Post #147 (isolation #8) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:25 pm

Yes I saw your slip that you got 1 neutral 1 town and 1 maf role. But this only makes me think you chose mafia over town as your alignment card

BNL · Post Post #151 (isolation #9) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:28 pm

Oh, I was only thinking about powerful from the perspective of town, not scum...

Yeah, that is a powerful scum role.

@148

BNL · Post Post #156 (isolation #10) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:32 pm

That role is worse than survivor for wincon purposes, and role-wise it is vanilla.

I'm quite a serious player and play to win more than play for fun.

BNL · Post Post #158 (isolation #11) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:34 pm

Are you normally a spammer?

BNL · Post Post #162 (isolation #12) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 3:41 pm

So Shock are you saying you chose a 3p role?

BNL · Post Post #175 (isolation #13) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:29 pm

Slimer use the quote button instead of the Q+ button

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

BNL · Post Post #180 (isolation #14) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:56 pm

In post 163, CheekyTeeky wrote:It'd be funny if I was the only towny in a sea of 3p.

You mean this? I disagree, I think it is easily faked by scum.

BNL · Post Post #185 (isolation #15) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:02 pm

I've seen similar 'townslips' from scum before, which is why I read such posts with a grain of salt.

Specifically, I mistakenly townread this post

BNL · Post Post #186 (isolation #16) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:03 pm

That 'townslip question' was null, I am independently scumreading you

BNL · Post Post #250 (isolation #17) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:15 am

In post 249, Invisibility wrote:i just realized lane could have seen an epic 3rd party role and snatched it up im gonna cry

What makes you say this? His discard?

BNL · Post Post #252 (isolation #18) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:18 am

So it's a read? Or just a completely random statement?

BNL · Post Post #258 (isolation #19) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:53 am

I mean if someone likes to play scum and discarded a scum role they are probably actually scum

BNL · Post Post #259 (isolation #20) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:54 am

In post 257, RCEnigma wrote:I prefer anything but cult/mason so I guess my preference is town ->3rd party solo->scum->mason/cult

What what how can you hate mason? It's the best role ever

I guess not so in grand idea since it has like a 0.1% chance of getting paired lol

BNL · Post Post #262 (isolation #21) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:33 am

If they like playing scum and got both a town and scum role, they are more likely to pick the scum role for their alignment

BNL · Post Post #265 (isolation #22) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:47 am

Which is why I said more likely.

Frankly this is all IIOA and I don't like it, I'm only saying this because I can't find a better way to engage with the game as of yet.

BNL · Post Post #266 (isolation #23) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:49 am

In post 180, BNL wrote:
In post 163, CheekyTeeky wrote:It'd be funny if I was the only towny in a sea of 3p.
You mean this? I disagree, I think it is easily faked by scum.

In post 186, BNL wrote:That 'townslip question' was null, I am independently scumreading you

Like I can see why you think my first post was scummy, but I had clarified it later. How about we talk about this instead?

BNL · Post Post #271 (isolation #24) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:19 am

"most sus is me" - what?

Also ceejay is kinda lynchbaity so you should go easy on that slot.

BNL · Post Post #311 (isolation #25) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:47 pm

VOTE: CheekyTeeky
Still feel that this is scum over the discard.

Also it looks like this game is going to be a shitpost fest, which is going to make scumhunting much harder >.<

BNL · Post Post #317 (isolation #26) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 12:42 am

It wasn't you only, a lot of people including the mod and comod were shitposting

But yeah now that pregame's over hopefully there'll be less shitposting

BNL · Post Post #322 (isolation #27) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:00 am

Well that was random shade throwing, but I'm going to sheep the fact that his discard was quite towny for now.

I actually have some games with him which I don't quite remember now but I'll say it's probably scummy? Idk

BNL · Post Post #325 (isolation #28) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:02 am

In post 180, BNL wrote:
In post 163, CheekyTeeky wrote:It'd be funny if I was the only towny in a sea of 3p.
You mean this? I disagree, I think it is easily faked by scum.

I was referring to this. Someone said that Cheeky townslipped but I disagreed with them. I stated a scumread on CheekyTeeky over their discard, that shouldn't be hard to find.

BNL · Post Post #356 (isolation #29) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:56 pm

I'm not declining to scumhunt, I just have a hard time scumhunting because I find it harder to engage in this game than usual.

If it helps, why are people voting Carcalilly? I didn't get anything scummy there

BNL · Post Post #358 (isolation #30) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:37 am

What are you saying? Do we have any completed games together?

In other news, it appears that I am sick, so

@Mod and everyone V/LA for a while

. Hopefully when I get back I can find things I can engage with.

BNL · Post Post #377 (isolation #31) » Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:50 am

Ok it looks like I recovered fast.

Dolphin isn’t alignment indicative and town or scum can be a dolphin. In fact it is even more meaningless because this is Grandest.

Having said that, what was your original case on Carca?

BNL · Post Post #393 (isolation #32) » Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:28 pm

In post 378, RCEnigma wrote:Feel scum dolphin would be better off holding the claim. Paired with her 3p discard I feel alright voting elsewhere right now.

I had several posts within the last few pages focused on my Carca read.

Huh? Why would scum hold back the claim?

Does anyone else understand RCE’s logic here?

BNL · Post Post #397 (isolation #33) » Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:09 pm

Is there a case on ceejay at all? It’s normal for him to post weirdly. I find the case on Carca more convincing than Ceejay.

BNL · Post Post #407 (isolation #34) » Tue Oct 16, 2018 6:09 pm

In post 404, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 393, BNL wrote:
In post 378, RCEnigma wrote:Feel scum dolphin would be better off holding the claim. Paired with her 3p discard I feel alright voting elsewhere right now.

I had several posts within the last few pages focused on my Carca read.
Huh? Why would scum hold back the claim?

Does anyone else understand RCE’s logic here?
As scum I would wait to see how town reacts to dolphin flipping, they can judge of hardclaiming dolphin is safe or if fakeclaiming is safer.

Now that I've said that I feel I kind of have to claim that I'm also a dolphin so expect 2 flips.

You really shouldn't have claimed so early.

But that having said, if you're scum I don't see the thought process behind claiming as part of pushing Carca in this manner... I definitely think you're town.

BNL · Post Post #427 (isolation #35) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:43 am

Did that look like a joke to you? It certainly didn’t to me

BNL · Post Post #428 (isolation #36) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:44 am

Ceejayvinoya can you find where you got your role from?

BNL · Post Post #446 (isolation #37) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:47 pm

I actually looked through the Grand idea thread last night and found all applicable roles. There were 4 Sane, 2 Naive, 1 Insane, and 2 Paranoid on Day 1 iirc.

By the way, how can 2 people read it as see it as obviously serious, and another 2 people read it and see it as obviously not serious? Though I must admit that my ability to sense sarcasm on the internet is really low lol.

BNL · Post Post #475 (isolation #38) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:20 pm

Guys we're here to play Mafia not to play hangman

Por que no los dos?

BNL · Post Post #476 (isolation #39) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:23 pm

Actually I replaced into this game not knowing that it was supposed to be a shitposting game, so if it was supposed to be a shitposting game I'm sorry for ruining you guy's fun. Just keep in mind I will not be participating in it.

BNL · Post Post #478 (isolation #40) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:28 pm

Anyway I am also townreading POTUS because of the way they nonchalantly mentioned where they got their town role from.

But I find the entire ceejay wagon stupid because he claimed a powerful role and I'm going to defend him to death for like 2 days at least. I'm not even sure why his sanity is an issue because it's mentioned in the Grand Idea thread that his sanity is explicity unknown.

I'm going to join a wagon now
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Carcalilly

Also dolphin flips as just dolphin and not town dolphin etc

BNL · Post Post #479 (isolation #41) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:29 pm

One thing I should probably mention is that I did not get any dolphin or even sea-themed roles at all

BNL · Post Post #502 (isolation #42) » Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:51 pm

Actually,

Ceejay, can you tell us the exact title of your role?

Like I think I know what he has but I don't want to claim for him as I don't want to feed him in case he's scum.

BNL · Post Post #514 (isolation #43) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:48 am

Okay what the hell

To whoever called out the fake claim good job I guess

BNL · Post Post #515 (isolation #44) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:49 am

In a recent game with NicoRobin she also flaked out as town

BNL · Post Post #517 (isolation #45) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:51 am

Okay Ceejay what did you get out of that fakeclaim

BNL · Post Post #518 (isolation #46) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:53 am

UNVOTE: Carcalilly

Hmm what are the chances that Carcalilly is faking not knowing that flipping dolphin only flips role and not alignment

BNL · Post Post #541 (isolation #47) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:53 am

CAN YOU GUYS STOP CLAIMING UNNECESSARILY

BNL · Post Post #544 (isolation #48) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:04 am

I mean Ceejay already admitted it himself so there was no need

BNL · Post Post #546 (isolation #49) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:06 am

In post 404, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 393, BNL wrote:
In post 378, RCEnigma wrote:Feel scum dolphin would be better off holding the claim. Paired with her 3p discard I feel alright voting elsewhere right now.

I had several posts within the last few pages focused on my Carca read.
Huh? Why would scum hold back the claim?

Does anyone else understand RCE’s logic here?
As scum I would wait to see how town reacts to dolphin flipping, they can judge of hardclaiming dolphin is safe or if fakeclaiming is safer.

Now that I've said that I feel I kind of have to claim that I'm also a dolphin so expect 2 flips.

In post 528, RCEnigma wrote:Actually VOTE: Ceejay for making me waste my lie detector.

Wait a minute RCE

You claimed Dolphin initially, then now you are claiming Lie Detector

What’s this?

BNL · Post Post #552 (isolation #50) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:10 am

RCE I’m not understanding what you are saying in your last few posts, but what are you really?

VOTE: RCEnigma

BNL · Post Post #588 (isolation #51) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:52 pm

In post 576, POTUS wrote:i thought it was obvious it was a fake-claim; why are you rolefishing? (especially after telling people to stop claiming?)

Because RCE claimed two conflicting roles so I wanted to sort his role out, given his unwillingness to cooperate and tell the truth.

I also suck at detecting sarcasm on the internet, so if it was indeed a fakeclaim I still cannot tell and still don’t know.

BNL · Post Post #589 (isolation #52) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:53 pm

I think if Ceejay really wanted to lynch Carca he wouldn’t have mentioned his sanity

BNL · Post Post #590 (isolation #53) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:59 pm

In post 567, RCEnigma wrote:No one is obviously real and one isn't. I'm well aware of both and why I made both.

Oh OK now that I read this the right way I do see that RCE did intentionally fakeclaim. I’m going to assume the Dolphin claim is real and the Lie Detector claim was in jest?

RCE confirm this please

BNL · Post Post #591 (isolation #54) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:04 pm

Oh and by the way Keyser I should let you know that when I post I almost always revise my post multiple times seeing how I post and improving it before posting, rather than just typing whatever comes to my mind and immediately hitting the submit button. This may resolve some issues you have with my tone.

BNL · Post Post #592 (isolation #55) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:05 pm

In post 585, CheekyTeeky wrote:That's an idea. I was thinking BNL might be the lyncher since he's pretty determined I'm scum for no great reason.

Cheeky I’m not quite sure what you’re saying by this because I’ve long taken my vote off you.

BNL · Post Post #599 (isolation #56) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:39 am

In post 576, POTUS wrote:
In post 518, BNL wrote:UNVOTE: Carcalilly

Hmm what are the chances that Carcalilly is faking not knowing that flipping dolphin only flips role and not alignment
why would she fake that?

I think you were not interpreting that correctly

I am saying that it was unlikely that Carcalilly knows that dolphin does not flip alignment, so I doubt she chose scum Dolphin. I was referring to the hypothetical situation that Carcalilly already knew that dolphin flips only role but chose a scum dolphin and faked not knowing that dolphin flips only role, and I say that situation is unlikely.

BNL · Post Post #601 (isolation #57) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:52 am

I don’t think Carca would choose a role that reveals herself Scum on Twilight 1

BNL · Post Post #604 (isolation #58) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:35 am

I mean at the end of Day, between Day and Night. It's not twilight, it's with the other flips

BNL · Post Post #605 (isolation #59) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:35 am

Wait are we already in twilight?

BNL · Post Post #642 (isolation #60) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:43 pm

Uh what the hell is Ceejay doing at this point?

BNL · Post Post #671 (isolation #61) » Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:38 am

My vote on RCE is leftover. I'm no longer scumreading him, my major issue with him has been resolved, and I only left my vote on him because I can't find better place for my vote at the moment.
UNVOTE:

As for Vax, I think he's been kinda absent (or at least not memorable enough for me), so I can see why that slot's getting voted. However, people have discussed that their discard was quite town so idk.

BNL · Post Post #672 (isolation #62) » Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:40 am

Ok just skimmed Vax's ISO (which is just 6 posts), and it's just him playing Hangman and the only Mafia-game related content is 501 so I see why they are being wagoned, though I don't think it's a strong enough basis.

BNL · Post Post #708 (isolation #63) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:45 am

In post 698, Carcalilly wrote:
In post 585, CheekyTeeky wrote:That's an idea. I was thinking BNL might be the lyncher since he's pretty determined I'm scum for no great reason.
are we even sure we have a lyncher or could this be an excuse for flailing scum .-.

What is this accusation of "flailing scum" when there aren't even any votes on Cheeky?

BNL · Post Post #709 (isolation #64) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:50 am

In post 699, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 696, Carcalilly wrote:can you explain why retracting claims is beneficial to town?
Towny does not equal pro-town.

SS, I don't like this. You are answering for someone else, but this question has nothing to do with discerning someone's alignment.

BNL · Post Post #710 (isolation #65) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:54 am

So... I have been thinking if I want to vote Ceejay or not. On one hand, he's basically guaranteed to be not town. However, the lynchproof claim complicates things... and I cannot come to a conclusion of what to do about it. It'll be best for a vig to shoot him, but I'm not strongly opposed to his lynched either.

BNL · Post Post #711 (isolation #66) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 2:57 am

VOTE: Vaxkiller

I can get behind this for now

BNL · Post Post #749 (isolation #67) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:52 am

UNVOTE: Vax

Wait I'm not sure I want to lynch someone who discarded a powerful scum role

BNL · Post Post #750 (isolation #68) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:53 am

I'm not sure what Vax is getting at by questioning his predecessor's actions...

BNL · Post Post #751 (isolation #69) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:54 am

In post 732, Vaxkiller wrote:Why does everyone think what lane did was so town?

Sorry by that I meant questions like this and the follow ups

BNL · Post Post #752 (isolation #70) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:00 am

RCE do you still scumread Eragon?

BNL · Post Post #790 (isolation #71) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:15 pm

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

Fine with me

BNL · Post Post #794 (isolation #72) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:26 pm

How is Nico scum? Nonparticipation != scum

BNL · Post Post #797 (isolation #73) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:34 pm

I mean that’s true as well, but RCE seems really convinced that Nico is scum

BNL · Post Post #799 (isolation #74) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:46 pm

Ok what the hell lol
I was in another game where Nico didn’t post for a whole week and was town there

It looks like the former of those two is right lol

BNL · Post Post #800 (isolation #75) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:46 pm

I think the only think we can do about that slot is wait for the replacement lol

BNL · Post Post #808 (isolation #76) » Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:41 pm

Well, that’s more posts than this game.

It’s also more posts than this game, which Nico was also town

BNL · Post Post #821 (isolation #77) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:33 am

RCE I still don't understand why you scumread Eragon, the only inconsistency has been cleared and you don't have more evidence

BNL · Post Post #822 (isolation #78) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 3:35 am

Current townpool is:
POTUS
Carcalilly
Vaxkiller
RCEnigma?

Ok I feel I still have too many unsorted people, I will need to look into that.

And I definitely want to see Ceejay go before endgame, I have seen town let self proclaimed survivors live for the lolz and they get backstabbed for it.

BNL · Post Post #824 (isolation #79) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:01 am

In post 282, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 280, RCEnigma wrote:If you have an eli read on someone then this is relevant, otherwise it is conjecture and doesn't get us closer to any informed decisions.
It doesn't get us any further away.

Also, the tell works in reverse. Since it's proven I COULD take town, anyone who knows me will tell you that I WOULD. So get that vote off

Okay maybe I can probably buy this, but I have a question here SS: I find a lot of your posts being theoretical talk rather than alignment talk. Also, are you still scumreading RCE?

BNL · Post Post #826 (isolation #80) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:03 am

Also for Eragon I feel he'll be able to sort easier as the game goes on. Also I've heard something about their meta which would be town indicative this game, but I have no first hand experience here so whatever meta knowledge is probably trash.

BNL · Post Post #827 (isolation #81) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:05 am

In post 825, RCEnigma wrote:Yeah well if he's really unlynchable then there isn't much we can do about it.

I'm interested bnl why my read on Eragon bothers you even though he isn't in your town pool.

Because it's unusual for you to keep Eragon in your scumpool even after your main point against him has been argued against?

Also btw, 826 was made without seeing 825

BNL · Post Post #829 (isolation #82) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:06 am

Why?

What's your case on him?

BNL · Post Post #906 (isolation #83) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:54 am

In post 866, CheekyTeeky wrote:I'm not feeling this game. I am town, I'm just finding it hard to figure out how to sort people in this set-up. It also doesn't help that we have a few lynchbaity slots in play so I've largely avoided sorting Carca and Invis. I guess it could be seen as reactionary because I haven't seen much that could be considered AI apart from that which I have commented on. Otherwise I'm only really trying not to get lynched because I hate being so useless I get mislynched, particularly when the ratio of town:3p:scum is unknown. But then I guess it's not the end of world so eh I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't defend myself.

In post 903, CheekyTeeky wrote:You can think what you want just don't blame me when I flip town. I did pseudo try.

Ok these posts make me feel a bit better about lynching Cheeky

BNL · Post Post #907 (isolation #84) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:56 am

Does anyone have a towncase on Invis?

BNL · Post Post #976 (isolation #85) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:20 pm

Omg deadline is in 9 hours, unless Gamma is willing to extend for the replacement

BNL · Post Post #977 (isolation #86) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:22 pm

And can I reiterate that given how Carca didn’t realise how dolphin flips work I really don’t think she’s scum?

BNL · Post Post #978 (isolation #87) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:23 pm

CJ > no lynch obviously but I think we can do better

BNL · Post Post #992 (isolation #88) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:34 am

Is it possible to get a lynch on anyone other than Ceejay at this point?

BNL · Post Post #994 (isolation #89) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:44 am

VOTE: Extension
We can always try

Can you agree that voting Ceejay is better than No Lynch?

BNL · Post Post #1034 (isolation #90) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:24 am

In post 1032, RCEnigma wrote:Dolphin doesnt flip if there is no lynch.

Really?

Let me check something really quick, but I think I don't want a Carca lynch

BNL · Post Post #1035 (isolation #91) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:32 am

In post 424, ceejayvinoya wrote:
In post 359, ceejayvinoya wrote:VOTE: Carcalilly

I found scum
I'm a day and night cop. Carca is scum.

Disclaimer: my sanity isn't guaranteed tho

In post 434, Carcalilly wrote:Like you will literally see me flip town once today ends either you're a Lynch me role or just didnt think this through didn't you

Tell me what you're role does including all bastardized mechanics

In post 435, Carcalilly wrote:okay ss I'm paranoid af about cops because of my last game please get them to take back that joke

In post 436, Carcalilly wrote:waaaiit is there a cop role that occasionally gets wrong results

holy shit gamma

So what I went back to look at was the timing of those posts. Carca cast doubt on the accuracy of the guilty only after he mentioned his sanity so I'm not really convinced by this case.

A50 I spectated the game where Carca reacted poorly to getting a guilty on them but I think this is a different case.

BNL · Post Post #1036 (isolation #92) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:35 am

^Or rather, order rather than timing

In post 1001, Almost50 wrote:
In post 977, BNL wrote:And can I reiterate that given how Carca didn’t realise how dolphin flips work I really don’t think she’s scum?
She doesn't know how it works = she's faking. Also check the top of page #39.

Carca is where I want to vote, but I need to see a VC before I cast a vote.

By the way what's your argument here? Carca did something absolutely scum here so anything that strongly suggests town!Carca here has to be fit into a scum!Carca explanation?

BNL · Post Post #1037 (isolation #93) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:41 am

In post 506, Carcalilly wrote:
In post 474, POTUS wrote:
In post 434, Carcalilly wrote:Like you will literally see me flip town once today ends either you're a Lynch me role or just didnt think this through didn't you

Tell me what you're role does including all bastardized mechanics
i thought just your role flipped; not your alignment

(ie i thought the flip was of the form 'Carca, a dolphin, has performed a flip')

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In post 435, Carcalilly wrote:okay ss I'm paranoid af about cops because of my last game please get them to take back that joke

i also learned i really can't read you so

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In post 437, Something_Smart wrote:He literally said his sanity isn't guaranteed,
so even if it is real, it's not a hard guilty...

Also I might recall some roles existing that were day/night cops where the day part and the night part have different sanities. Let me check that real quick.
right so my problem is that he said 'vote:carca i found scum'

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In post 455, theslimer3 wrote:Seems an awful lot like saying "if I'm wrong, dont lynch me bro, it was just a prank"
+1

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In post 473, theslimer3 wrote:I seriously wish I knew.
I could partially lean towards Vax because of his slot saying some questionable things. But it wasnt enough for me to think they're def scum though
his slot as said literally nothing game-related thus far besides playing hangman (which indicates that he's clearly following along yet not contributing)

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cool with lynching cj + like any of the lurkers
i scumread rce too but i think they're a jester

----- skitter
Awwwh what?! I'm aware that scum dolphins can exist because I literally got my role from that card but then what's the point of dolphining if it doesn't flip your rolecard

So this is where my Carca townread comes from. Rereading it actually seems more easily faked than when I initially read it, but I want to do a thorough reevaluation on this.

BNL · Post Post #1042 (isolation #94) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:29 am

In post 1037, BNL wrote:
In post 506, Carcalilly wrote:
In post 474, POTUS wrote:
In post 434, Carcalilly wrote:Like you will literally see me flip town once today ends either you're a Lynch me role or just didnt think this through didn't you

Tell me what you're role does including all bastardized mechanics
i thought just your role flipped; not your alignment

(ie i thought the flip was of the form 'Carca, a dolphin, has performed a flip')

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In post 435, Carcalilly wrote:okay ss I'm paranoid af about cops because of my last game please get them to take back that joke

i also learned i really can't read you so

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In post 437, Something_Smart wrote:He literally said his sanity isn't guaranteed,
so even if it is real, it's not a hard guilty...

Also I might recall some roles existing that were day/night cops where the day part and the night part have different sanities. Let me check that real quick.
right so my problem is that he said 'vote:carca i found scum'

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In post 455, theslimer3 wrote:Seems an awful lot like saying "if I'm wrong, dont lynch me bro, it was just a prank"
+1

==

In post 473, theslimer3 wrote:I seriously wish I knew.
I could partially lean towards Vax because of his slot saying some questionable things. But it wasnt enough for me to think they're def scum though
his slot as said literally nothing game-related thus far besides playing hangman (which indicates that he's clearly following along yet not contributing)

==

cool with lynching cj + like any of the lurkers
i scumread rce too but i think they're a jester

----- skitter
Awwwh what?! I'm aware that scum dolphins can exist because I literally got my role from that card but then what's the point of dolphining if it doesn't flip your rolecard
So this is where my Carca townread comes from. Rereading it actually seems more easily faked than when I initially read it, but I want to do a thorough reevaluation on this.

So what I am saying here is that these are the possible cases:

1. Carca is town and chose town dolphin hoping to clear herself as town Night 1. This is a fair possibility and I think it's the most viable one compared to the other roles.

2. Carca is scum and chose scum dolphin, thinking that on Night 1 she will flip as scum dolphin. This makes no sense.

3. Carca is scum, and faked the above post saying she thought that dolphin flips her alignment as well. This is something I will have to ponder over, but currently I am thinking that this is very unlikely.

Can anyone counter any of these points, or is there a stronger scumcase on Carca elsewhere?

Pedit: Scum, quite strongly implied: viewtopic.php?f=51&t=77349

BNL · Post Post #1207 (isolation #95) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:19 pm

Wait why did we lynch Ceejay...

Oh. Good job guys!

BNL · Post Post #1208 (isolation #96) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:22 pm

In post 1101, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1036, BNL wrote:By the way what's your argument here? Carca did something absolutely scum here so anything that strongly suggests town!Carca here has to be fit into a scum!Carca explanation?
How about we flip Carca and if that flips Town I go next? I would offer the same for CJV except I'm a little hesitant bc he might actually be Unlynchable so we gain no info from it.

A50 what’s with your overconfidence in Carca being scum?

BNL · Post Post #1209 (isolation #97) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:37 pm

In post 1085, Shock Value wrote:
In post 1056, ceejayvinoya wrote:@shock value you should say more exciting things
In post 1057, ceejayvinoya wrote:Your iso is a bore
Lol ya, I guess for a Hydra based on Shock were a little bland.

I feel like were at 40 pages of nothing tho. A couple fakeclaims and a couple dolphin claims, reactions being beaten to beath, and...that's it.

I have no interest in reacting to either of those so what am I do to?

- Ari

Also I am seeing why people are scumreading this, but I have to tell you I sympathise with this.

BNL · Post Post #1210 (isolation #98) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:39 pm

Oh and by the way, I’m not going to randomly give 3p the win for the lolz. In two games I have played where I died early, Town randomly decided to give some 3p the win for fun, and lost because of it. I’m not letting it happen.

BNL · Post Post #1212 (isolation #99) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:46 pm

That was a different case because he claimed unlynchable, but it turned out I was stupid and it was the right move here.

BNL · Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:39 pm

Is the day not over yet VOTE: ceejayvinoya

BNL · Sun Nov 04, 2018 1:19 am

V/LA until 6-7 November

BNL · Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:15 pm

Prodge, get to this soon.

V/LA over

BNL · Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:04 am

In post 1296, CheekyTeeky wrote:Ok well I'm going to claim because I'm a shit role anyway and maybe it will help you understand why I thought that way.

I'm a town traitor. So I thought town SK would be feasible.

Ok what is a town traitor?

Chara, what were your options?

BNL · Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:59 am

Chara what were your cards

BNL · Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:59 am

All of them

BNL · Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:35 am

Sorry I wasn’t reading

BNL · Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:35 am

Oof Friendly neighbour cant be used as a scum role

BNL · Wed Nov 07, 2018 4:43 pm

I vaguely remember scumreading a50 at the end of the previous Day but I will need to read this Day properly

BNL · Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:32 am

Not caught up yet but Eragon I can tell Vax has some kind of incriminating result on you so you should probably claim

Will fully catchup tomorrow

BNL · Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:46 am

Wait why is Vaxkiller not claiming even after Eragon has claimed?

What anti claiming mechanics are people referring to even?

BNL · Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:50 am

VOTE: Vaxkiller

BNL · Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:27 pm

Sorry for lurking for basically half the day phase, I was on V/LA and when I came back I was busy with something else.

I wanted to catch up yesterday, but I was so tired I ended up falling asleep the entire day.

I would catch up now but I'm having a headache right now. I do intend to catch up later today.

BNL · Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:28 pm

For now I'll be putting this down:

I find it funny that RCE is pushing me and I definitely think he should be looked into more should anything happen tonight.

BNL · Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:46 pm

SS do you think Vax's predecessor's discard makes him locktown for you in

all

circumstances?

I'm actually open to seeing Vax as not necessarily scum but bad town, but the reason I voted him is that even when Eragon claimed Vax did nothing with Era's claim, which increasingly makes me feel like he's scum just speaking BS. I can also see town!Vax here who has yet to decide his course of action, but his play here is anti-town either way.

Out for lunch, I'll do a proper catch-up in 1-2 hours and also ponder the Vax/Eragon situation a little more when I get back.

BNL · Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:02 pm

In post 1278, Shock Value wrote:
In post 1261, RCEnigma wrote:
In post 1255, Shock Value wrote:Lol so the only BP Dolphin in the list is Orca, an SK role.

VOTE: RCE
OK now look at the role and tell me why I can't be sk......in GIM.

You all had to choose alignment and role the same way I did.
=D

That was the test!

Now to look at the sheep

Also UNVOTE:

Oh hang on Shock are you saying that it was a reaction test all along and you did not actually brainfart?

BNL · Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:09 pm

In post 1328, RCEnigma wrote:Bnl, buddy, ol pal. What do you have to say about any of this?

What is this regarding?

BNL · Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:00 pm

Sigh

I read the entire Vax/Eragon situation and now understand where Vax is coming from

Idk what to say yet but I want to comment on this:

In post 1416, Eragon wrote:“My role is too confusing and ya better off not claiming”

This felt like an obvious joke to me

BNL · Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:36 am

Uh I haven't analysed the whole thing properly yet, I was supposed to do so but I was distracted.

Also I forgot UNVOTE: for now

BNL · Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:43 am

Why would scum!Vax do so if this BS gets him lynched the Day later?

BNL · Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:48 am

Before what exactly?

I reflexively voted Vax when he got Eragon to claim without claiming by himself, but I realised I needed to think more

BNL · Sat Nov 10, 2018 1:57 am

Uh no I don't think so

BNL · Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:01 am

Uh actually yeah there was a wagon on Vax yesterday but as there wasn't a case I didn't think much of it.

I was in fact on the Vax wagon, but I wasn't scumreading him then (in fact, I was still townreading him for the discard). I only voted there to get something out of the slot because he had done nothing.

BNL · Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:02 am

Ok yeah I'm convinced, I'll not be voting Vax, for Today at least

BNL · Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:11 am

It's 2 because Eragon isn't getting lynched today

And I'd say it's not really reliable because inactivity is something town will wagon over.

BNL · Sat Nov 10, 2018 2:55 am

Wait what why are you still considering Eragon for scum?

BNL · Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:30 am

Oh I forgot it was only me townreading him, or more specifically, his play. Isn't he in your townpool though?

Also does the backup here work like the Normal universal backup (i.e. from same alignment only)?

BNL · Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:24 am

VOTE: Almost50

BNL · Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:36 am

I thought that there was something off with his push on you yesterday, especially the "just lynch him then if I'm wrong lynch me" part

This makes him slightly lower than my nulls, which makes me fine aggressively voting there.

BNL · Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:00 am

In post 1609, Eragon wrote:as BNL said, “just lynch him and if I’m wrong lynch me”
He did that in Open 730 where I was town and he was town, so that’s not neccesadily a scummy thing for him, if at all for anyone

Oh is that so? Ok, I will keep that in mind

BNL · Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:02 am

I mean the general gist of A50’s posting is that he is really light hearted and likes to joke around, but in a fun way.

BNL · Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:09 am

So this is my current townpool:
Vaxkiller
Eragon
Carcalilly
RCEnigma
Something_Smart?

Carca is still stale from the Dolphin thing but whatever. RCE making sense convincing me on Vax town makes me not want to lynch him. And SS is just a player I like in general.

Which leaves the remaining 5 tied at null, which is something I will have to fix. I don’t really have any outstanding scumreads

BNL · Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:10 am

So who are the players I’m missing? Xtoxm, Shock, Chara, a50, slimer?

BNL · Mon Nov 12, 2018 3:27 am

Ngl those are mostly players whose posts were the most impresisonless to me which make me not have much of a read on them

An exception would be Chara’s predecessor, who I thought made some scummy decisions but I now understand the situation better

Will think about this tomorrow

BNL · Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:43 am

In post 1654, Xtoxm wrote:Took me a while to logic this out but I believe shock is non town. He is a double lyncher. This is a very low utility role for town (high chance of basically being vanilla depending on setup), and can only be town initially according to the grand idea thread. He discarded search and rescue, which is decent utility for town. This means he picked his alignment from a 3rd unknown role. Search and rescue has zero utility to anything that isn't town, so choosing non town alignment makes sense for discarding it.

Double lyncher? Why this specific 3p role?

Also did you conclude this before or after voting him?

BNL · Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:10 am

Ari can you check your role again? And I would like you to actually go back and see your role, and not cite it from memory.
Also, can you clearly state all rolecards you received at the beginning?

Btw slimer I also want you to go back to reread your role (but not claim it), just so you don't repeat what you did in Charging.

BNL · Wed Nov 14, 2018 2:31 am

In post 1654, Xtoxm wrote:Took me a while to logic this out but I believe shock is non town. He is a double lyncher. This is a very low utility role for town (high chance of basically being vanilla depending on setup), and can only be town initially according to the grand idea thread. He discarded search and rescue, which is decent utility for town. This means he picked his alignment from a 3rd unknown role. Search and rescue has zero utility to anything that isn't town, so choosing non town alignment makes sense for discarding it.

Also Xtoxm is town for using his results to figure out people's alignment

BNL · Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:43 pm

In post 1681, theslimer3 wrote:
In post 1677, BNL wrote:Ari can you check your role again? And I would like you to actually go back and see your role, and not cite it from memory.
Also, can you clearly state all rolecards you received at the beginning?

Btw slimer I also want you to go back to reread your role (but not claim it), just so you don't repeat what you did in Charging.
you're never going to let me live that down, are you? >.>

Sorry, I don't mean to etch that in your memory, I just wanted to make sure accidents don't happen that town trip over.

BNL · Wed Nov 14, 2018 5:49 pm

Btw I was confused at first... but a Double Lyncher is a role, not an alignment (Lyncher):

In post 1743, Cheery Dog wrote:
Town Double-Lyncher

If you are on the lynch-wagon, the lynch happens twice. (if the lynched person can survive one lynch, they're still lynched, otherwise you're just hanging up a dead body)

Were other people confused as well or was it just me?

BNL · Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:29 am

Eh idk if I prefer Shock or slimer
UNVOTE:

BNL · Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:36 am

Actually Shock's posts feel gut town to me
VOTE: theslimer3

BNL · Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:37 am

In post 1691, Shock Value wrote:
In post 1677, BNL wrote:Ari can you check your role again? And I would like you to actually go back and see your role, and not cite it from memory.
Also, can you clearly state all rolecards you received at the beginning?

Btw slimer I also want you to go back to reread your role (but not claim it), just so you don't repeat what you did in Charging.

Savage XD
I fucking live it BNL

Ya, I checked. Town Cop, Town Coatgeard/Psychologist, Town Double-Lyncher. I chose the latter.
My reasoning was that Cop is boring (ya ya, be mad w/e ) I stand with 3Ps, and I think any "unlynchable/DayBP/whatever roles are most likely 3P or Scum.
I look at it this way, we are a Town Strongman Voter. If the role that is lynched has protection, we bypass it and get a flip. It's quite a good town utility tbh!

But like I say, I need a fucking break from Mafia.
I literally worked a 12 hour day with no breaks, almost no food/coffee, and on 2 hours sleep because I was writing an essay al night.
It's be a blessing XD

In post 1692, Shock Value wrote:
In post 1679, Vaxkiller wrote:Great. So Shocks role is anti town. Still don't want to "waste" a lynch on that. I want scum.
Vax, can you explain why you think my role is antitown?
And you specifically say role, not alignment. What is your actual read of me?

In post 1693, Shock Value wrote:
In post 1680, Xtoxm wrote:"i made an anti town decision based on personal preference"
This is literally 100% true. So what?

In post 1694, Shock Value wrote:
In post 1682, Almost50 wrote:Honestly, I can't disagree.

According to Ari, they received three TOWN roles: Cop + Double Lyncher + Psychiatrist and Coastguard Rescue.
Out of those we only know 3 to be true (mod-confirmed) and then 2 must be true (Xtoxm couldn't have possibly "guessed" it, plus Ari admitted it)m which leaves us with the 1st card (the Town Cop).

Now there are several times the Town Cop appears in the Great Idea Mafia thread, but there's also a 3P Town Cop, and that one's win con is THIRD PARTY (as long as there are other 3P in play, which in this game we know to be true). I'm referring to this card:

In post 5057, Irrelephant11 wrote:
Third Party Town Cop

You can check one person each night, and will get the results in the form of “Town” or “Not Town”

If there are other third parties, you have the same win condition as one of them
.

If not, you also have the ability once per day to post a very clearly-stated list of every players’ alignment (do so in italics so the mod recognizes it); if you are correct for every player, you will win and exit the game. If not, nothing will happen.
As soon as I found that card I stopped looking. I would very much expect Ari to have picked the Double Lyncher combined with the above quoted win con for the fun of it.

Otherwise, what Townie really throws out Cop and adopts Double Lyncher when they have no choice but to be TOWN???

In other words, Ari (and Aero) had two shots at being Town and one at being 3P and that is why they had to drop the Cop role in favor of adopting the 3P alignment, so had to chose between Double Lyncher/Psychiatrist, and obviously the former guarantees a lynch on a 1-shot lynch proof thus helping their 3P win con which would probably be get NK'd (if Deathster was the only other 3P we had) or live to end game (if we have a true Survivor in-play).

The question now is whether we want to go for safe play, lynch a non-Townie (and be dicks to them), or we want to leave them be for another day or two (Mafia probably have no incentive to shoot them now since they'd rather shoot Town)? *Thinking*
Ooo that role is fantastic! I 100% would have used that as alignment if I'd gotten it!
Sadly we did not.
Also, the wincons suggested, A50, are to get NK'd or to survive. Do I appear to be playing towards either?
If so, please present your argument because LOL!

In post 1683, Something_Smart wrote:the thing about that, A50, is that there are dozens of town cop roles, and probably only one (or maybe two) of that role. Even if they'd use third party cop for their alignment 100% of the time and town cop for their alignment only 10% of the time, they're still more likely to be town.

And... Ari is a great guy, but he's not known for always preferring the mechanically correct choice
HEY!
I mean, you're right XD But still!
I play for fun, trollz, and lols. I really am not a srs busns guy anymore, which also affirms my need for a break.

In post 1684, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1683, Something_Smart wrote:the thing about that, A50, is that there are dozens of town cop roles, and probably only one (or maybe two) of that role. Even if they'd use third party cop for their alignment 100% of the time and town cop for their alignment only 10% of the time, they're still more likely to be town.
Is he known to make the worst of choices though? Not to my knowledge. And not when it's clear cut.

But regardless, I'm past that point (at least from my own PoV). I am asking .. if we "hypothetically knew" he was a 3P Double Lyncher.. do we want to lynch him today or wait another day or two? Do you think Scum (as a general term) would want to shoot him for us or would they be inclined to keep him alive to keep us skeptical and/or hope he sides by them towards the end of the game if they appear to have a shot at winning?
I legit didn't care about Cop and it was the one I decided I was not keeping first. Oh man, would we have gotten lynched D1 if that was the discard not the alignment card? XD I mean, the others are conftown by nature of only being available in this alignment, yet I'd have been scumread for the discard!
This is an interesting thought experiment! XD

These posts

BNL · Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:38 am

In post 1695, Shock Value wrote:Honestly, I don't remember the last time I scumread this player, but

VOTE: A50

Lynch me if you like, but I am town and A50 is shading me so hard! It's scummy AF and I'm a known easy target.

Idk about these posts, though

BNL · Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:39 am

In post 1697, Shock Value wrote:Here's a piece of advice - Never believe what RC claims. Think about the motivation behind his making the claim. It'll get you far closer to the truth!

This too

BNL · Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:36 am

In post 1734, Eragon wrote:and why is slimer scum?

Actually I'm not scumreading slimer, I just have a lot of townreads and I'm lynching out of my town pool...

BNL · Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:42 am

In post 1745, Eragon wrote:so you got mafia brownie, werewolf exorcist, and town ____ role...

and that ____ role had worse utility than a citizen?

Where did Mafia Brownie come from

BNL · Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:45 am

In post 1758, theslimer3 wrote:I guess from your perspective it would make sense to go werewolf or take the exorcism but I didnt find either of them useful. It was either vanilla townie or chocolate townie. So I just went with chocolate and town

Why choose chocolate townie over exorcist?

BNL · Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:46 am

Also with VT as alignment card...

I still like a slimer lynch

BNL · Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:16 am

In post 1764, BNL wrote:
In post 1734, Eragon wrote:and why is slimer scum?
Actually I'm not scumreading slimer, I just have a lot of townreads and I'm lynching out of my town pool...

By the way, this is by current townpool:
Vaxkiller, Eragon, Carcalilly, RCEnigma, Xtoxm, Something_Smart

Leaving Shock Value, theslimer3, Chara, Almost50

And I think I prefer slimer over Shock slightly

BNL · Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:38 pm

Uh we have 4 hours left

BNL · Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:18 am

Eh I want to scumread Xtoxm based on VCA but I'm townreading his play here

VCA is pretty trash in likely multiball GIM anyway

BNL · Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:51 pm

This is a game

BNL · Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:53 pm

VOTE: Almost50

BNL · Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:48 am

BNL · Mon Nov 26, 2018 2:50 am

Sorry I almost forgot about this game

If I propagate my lynch pool it’ll be A50/Chara

But I should probably read

BNL · Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:20 am

Btw I voted A50 over Carca because his posts are painful to read

Although there may be something I'm missing out

BNL · Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:25 am

Actually, can someone with experience with A50 tell me if he always makes these weird tinfoil hat theory posts, especially in a theme game?

BNL · Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:30 am

In post 1805, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1790, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1789, Eragon wrote:
In post 1787, Eragon wrote:Ok I blocked shock, so he is like 99.9% confirmed town
Should expand

99.9% confirmed double lynched/no ability

Which makes him confirmed not mafia/killing/harmful neutral
Why not Mafia
who didn't shoot Vax
?
You think they were double bussing for shits and giggles?

Isn't the much simpler answer "Why wouldn't he kill/action if he could?"

BNL · Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:36 am

Also,

1. Where's the whole idea that there may be a cult coming from?

2. Is it stated anywhere that being recruited to a cult also vanillises them?

BNL · Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:39 am

In post 1855, Chara wrote:i'm not worrying about multiball until there's evidence of it in kills.
if there's a cult i feel like we may be screwed anyway, as was just said.
i'm townreading most of the recent discussion.

if anyone is townreading SS could they yell at me as to why?

pedit: hi Almost! thanks for towntelling.

Soulreading now. I don't really have a good reason to townread SS, I just believe him when he said he would pick town given the chance, and I generally like his posts, not even in the "I think this is town" way but in the "It pleases me reading this" way.

Maybe I should put him out of my town pool, I just don't know.

BNL · Mon Nov 26, 2018 4:01 am

In post 1871, Xtoxm wrote:I don't get all this chara hate he was the only one who reacted in a town way to my info yesterday.

What, where?

BNL · Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:46 am

In post 1881, Chara wrote:
In post 1808, BNL wrote:Eh I want to scumread Xtoxm based on VCA but I'm townreading his play here

VCA is pretty trash in likely multiball GIM anyway

In post 1865, BNL wrote:Btw I voted A50 over Carca because his posts are painful to read

Although there may be something I'm missing out

In post 1869, BNL wrote:
In post 1855, Chara wrote:i'm not worrying about multiball until there's evidence of it in kills.
if there's a cult i feel like we may be screwed anyway, as was just said.
i'm townreading most of the recent discussion.

if anyone is townreading SS could they yell at me as to why?

pedit: hi Almost! thanks for towntelling.
Soulreading now. I don't really have a good reason to townread SS, I just believe him when he said he would pick town given the chance, and I generally like his posts, not even in the "I think this is town" way but in the "It pleases me reading this" way.

Maybe I should put him out of my town pool, I just don't know.
VOTE: BnL
lots of "buts", lots of ways out of his stances. scum does this to seem like unsure town and to pretend to care.

not to mention he has two scumreads and i'm one of them, so why does he react to my prodding about SS with "maybe i shouldn't be townreading him after all"?

Because a lot of my townreads are very weak and I am not very confident in them, and I feel I'm bound to be wrong somewhere. Also, it's just answering your question, and I don't ignore questions from people I don't townread, in fact you just did didn't you?

Chara wrote:
In post 1866, BNL wrote:Actually, can someone with experience with A50 tell me if he always makes these weird tinfoil hat theory posts, especially in a theme game?
*raises hand*

BNL · Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:49 am

In fact, I am going to have to remake my townblock because both A50 and Chara are have done things on this page I consider towny, which means I feel I'm letting people into my townblock too easily.

Come to think of it I have really been only picking up things I consider town and hardly gotten any scumpings this game.

BNL · Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:56 am

So Eragon is still likely town based on role

Which means Shock Value is likely town or at least non harmful

And on reread I think I want to lock SS as town too

BNL · Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:59 am

Tbh role aside I actually feel like Xtoxm has been acting kinda scummy

BNL · Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:01 am

Actually A50 claiming prematurely feels towny, I need to think a bit more

Can we get a Carca replacement soon?

UNVOTE:

BNL · Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:24 am

In post 1901, Chara wrote:
In post 1896, BNL wrote:Because a lot of my townreads are very weak and I am not very confident in them, and I feel I'm bound to be wrong somewhere. Also, it's just answering your question, and I don't ignore questions from people I don't townread, in fact you just did didn't you?
i don't really like that you've given me a "you did this too, see" when the problem isn't that you answered my question, it's that you answered it and then immediately pulled back on your own opinion and said you might be wrong.

I have been townreading SS for weak reasons but have been pretty lazy with this game. So I feel obligated to respond when someone calls for people townreading SS, but I need to mentally note to myself that my reasons for voting SS are weak so it's higher priority to rethink that slot.

Incidentally, on reread I have changed my mind and now am locktowning SS for the time being. Reasons I don't want to disclose yet.

BNL · Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:28 am

In post 1902, Chara wrote:
In post 1897, BNL wrote:In fact, I am going to have to remake my townblock because both A50 and Chara are have done things on this page I consider towny, which means I feel I'm letting people into my townblock too easily.

Come to think of it I have really been only picking up things I consider town and hardly gotten any scumpings this game.
i suppose this further post is evidence you
may
have the same problem i have of townreading too many players, which would not have too much utility as scum. especially the reconsideration on Almost when he's still a popular vote.

speaking of that, Xtoxm?

Xtoxm because

In post 1772, Xtoxm wrote:I've been prodded.

At a glance I don't understand why we aren't lynching shock based on the available info.

This has to go under much scrutiny in light of slimer's flip, given that Shock was groupscum

In post 1888, Xtoxm wrote:
In post 1877, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1871, Xtoxm wrote:My lynch pool atm is bnl a50 carca sv.
Alright, Lynch me already.
Ok

VOTE: A50

I just disliked this post in general because many players wanted to lynch A50

BNL · Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:33 am

In post 1917, Something_Smart wrote:I haven't been neglecting the game just literally have nothing to say.

Same here. I kinda feel that everyone has been waiting for each other to do something

BNL · Fri Nov 30, 2018 2:38 am

In post 1877, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1871, Xtoxm wrote:My lynch pool atm is bnl a50 carca sv.
Alright, Lynch me already.

I'm also going to preemptively claim: I'm effectively a named Townie. My Role is GODFATHER, but I have no special abilities. I investigate as Town to Cops, but Godfather to Role Cops.

This is what I got (or rather NicoRobin did): Town Godfather + Town Regretful Vigilante + Survivor 1-Shot Miller

So, there were 5 combinations for her choose from (all of them suck if you ask me):

Town Godfather
Town Regretful Vigilante
Town 1-Shot Miller
Survivor Regretful Vigilante
Survivor Godsfather

Obviously the Regretful Vigilante role sucks. Why would anyone want to die with their NK target as any alignment?
Town Miller also isn't a viable option, so I guess Nico had to pick GF for her role, and then choose between Town and Survivor for her alignment. *Shrug*

That's probably why she replaced out because it's quite boring, but then this is Nico and she would have probably replaced out anyway.

So here's why I'm a bit skeptical about lynching A50 at this point. A50 had almost no votes on him here (I think it was me only), so this premature claim sounds more like pressured town than pressured scum.

Am I crazy here and it's me only, or is this just something scum don't do?

BNL · Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:02 am

Idk what to do now but for me I think the safest vote for now is
VOTE: RCEnigma

I think my current lynchpool is RCEnigma/Xtoxm and Xtoxm has a useful ability so I’m more inclined to lynch RCE for now

BNL · Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:04 am

Maybe Carca should be off my townpool as well, I thought his D1 thing was really town but it’s been 2 Days since then so *shrug*

BNL · Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:05 am

In post 1929, Something_Smart wrote:I wouldn't say it's scummy, but it's a pretty A50 move regardless of his alignment. It doesn't do him any favors and this way we know we're not lynching a PR.

Wait, what? A50 is the type to claim prematurely regardless of alignment?

BNL · Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:36 am

V/LA until 15 December

BNL · Sun Dec 02, 2018 2:55 am

Uh, Day ends in less than 4 days

Should I claim?

BNL · Sun Dec 02, 2018 4:19 am

Nah I’ll be here for 10 min per day or something

BNL · Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:27 am

Checking in to confirm I’ll have access

I haven’t been playing well this game very well and I won’t be able to during the V/LA so I’ll just cooperate to vote whoever I don’t townread/claim/cooperate with night actions or whatever

BNL · Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:08 am

In post 1982, RCEnigma wrote:Oh and shock is confirmed 3p so you guys decide what to do there later. Think town can use him tbh.

How is Shock confirmed 3p?

BNL · Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:53 am

There’s a little under 2 days left and I think I’m one of the lynch candidates so I’m going to partially claim: I have a Night action which I intend to use tonight.

I think this will make others want to make me full claim, in which case I will gladly do so.

BNL · Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:20 am

In post 1987, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1984, BNL wrote:There’s a little under 2 days left and I think I’m one of the lynch candidates so I’m going to partially claim: I have a Night action which I intend to use tonight.

I think this will make others want to make me full claim, in which case I will gladly do so.
How would you feel about Eragon vigging you?

It would pretty much confirm him as town and it would remove you from the lynchpool.

At first I claimed to avoid getting in his way, but then I realised it wasn’t a bad idea because a lot of people are suspecting me and I don’t expect to be useful this game.

BNL · Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:21 am

In post 1999, BNL wrote:
In post 1987, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1984, BNL wrote:There’s a little under 2 days left and I think I’m one of the lynch candidates so I’m going to partially claim: I have a Night action which I intend to use tonight.

I think this will make others want to make me full claim, in which case I will gladly do so.
How would you feel about Eragon vigging you?

It would pretty much confirm him as town and it would remove you from the lynchpool.
At first I claimed to avoid getting in his way, but then I realised it wasn’t a bad idea because a lot of people are suspecting me and I don’t expect to be useful this game.

Or rather, wanted to claim

BNL · Wed Dec 05, 2018 3:27 am

In post 1258, theslimer3 wrote:I have no idea how I even missed that -.- twice.

VOTE: RCE

Also I remembered this post and it probably points to RCE being not Mafia
VOTE: Xtoxm

BNL · Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:33 pm

Whooooooo town win!

GG everyone, and especially huge props to SS for finding that

loophole

interaction

BNL · Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:34 pm

Btw Gamma who's your new avatar?

BNL · Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:48 pm

I thought Vengeful usually pierces Bulletproof because it's a Night ability

BNL · Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:51 pm

Oh wow that's perfect, to think we'd still have lost if SS was a standard vengeful

BNL · Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:57 pm

Sorry if it sounded that way, I didn't mean it. I was thinking about how the town roles ended up working perfectly for town, but I could see how you would see my post as mocking Xtoxm, which is not my intention here, and I am sorry if Xtoxm does feel this way.

BNL · Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:41 am

I think of vengeful as closest to dayvig, and am under the impression that dayvig trumps bulletproof.