Open 736: Diffusion of Power - Game Over

[Almost50]

In fact.. if you are a N3 Doctor just state your protection target. If not, so you ain't and that'd be it.

[Almost50]

*say you ain't..

[Almost50]

So I have a long post written out, but ideally, before I post it:

Nick

: please claim.

We no longer have any reason not to massclaim, and I'd like nick to claim before me.

This is Town by tone. Nic really has nowhere to go now. (I'd blame it on luck and 2 good Cop choices, but it's over all the same). Surrender?

P-edit: I'll read that and respond if necessary

[Almost50]

Like, I really don't get the crumb, and I'm wondering if it's because I'm half asleep or because I'm a non-English speaker.

But that's irrelevant. If you want "crazy" I would lynch NC today. Of course, the logical play is to lynch Spoogh first.

@M&M: Do you now see that it was a bad idea to lynch Gamma yesterday? *Sigh*

[Almost50]

There's still no reason to lynch nc today. In the event he is town he could theoretically have a doc save that earns an extra mislynch or a cop shot that earns an extra clear. And we have confscum.

I mean, you're right of course and it

is

the right thing to do. I was just suggesting I wanted another game like this one where lynching the "not guiltied" partner first resulted in the guiltied one surrendering overnight. I'm just that crazy sometimes, so don't mind me.

[Almost50]

@implo: If you're ready to end the day, please vote spoogh so N_M can have his fun hammering instantly!

[Almost50]

Skitter conftown, implosion conftown, M&M conftown -- that's a massive conftown block so this game is probably won even if we mislynch me tomorrow.

From a purely mechanical PoV only skitter and M&M are

confirmed

. Theoretically, implosion could have no killed and decided to claim he protected skitter last night.

I repeat: I'm speaking from a

pure mechanical

PoV of a spectator. No reads, no gut feelings, and no personal info that's not publicly unconfirmed. I mean, I obviously have my own Role PM to exclude myself from all this, but I'm including me because from a 3rd party PoV I'm not 100% cleared still.

[Almost50]

I can't imagine a scenario where scum no kill when there's already a guilty on Spoog. Just look at our numbers lol. Last scum did a gambit in an earlier dayphase. A50's claim seems the most suspect to me so it's probably him.

My claims always somehow get called suspect regardless. I mean, even in the off case you're town and someone is being "overly clever" I'd understand if you thought I was the top suspect. I don't suppose not being on either Town lynches and actually being on the scum lynches make a difference to you? Does me being on Spoogh yesterday affect that read? I couldn't have foresaw CMod picking the wrong wagon to hammer either, so that was scum!me making the game even harder for myself, trying to save the town an additional mislynch.

[Almost50]

@NC: Check my readlist/ See that bottom tier? Now check whom I was voting before I switched to Carca.

Frankly; I just copied and pasted my old read list and moved Gamma up, but totally forgot about that townslip of yours. That said, I won't put you at the very top for <reasons>.

Also, I am still ignoring that question you quoted. Capiche?

{Creature, Gamma}
{BuJaber, skitter}
{implosion, Cmod}
{Spooghetioso, M & M}<===neutral/null
{N_M}
{PP}
{LB, Carca}

And this the reason why I was voting there:

Carcalilly has been prodded.
Lovebird has appr six hours to pick up their prod.

I'm tunneling the LB slot if that gets replaced again. I can't see a town slot getting replaced twice in 72 hours at the start of the game. Maybe the first player flaked.. but what about the second one? Why would they replace in then decide not to play after they have picked their role PM and actually posted in the game thread?

It's official! teacher has just posted in the replacements thread looking for someone to fill in for LB.

VOTE: Lovebird

Now check this out. This is me voting Carca (at the request of RC)

VOTE COUNT 1.12 and Updates

Deadline:

Sunset

9:00pm NYC on Thursday, October 4

, or

(expired on 2018-10-04 21:00:00)

With thirteen alive, it takes seven to lynch.

Player	Vote Total	Vote Identity
Almost50	1	Carcalilly 999
PenguinPower	3	Not_Mafia 76; Creature 799; Spooghetioso 977
Music and Mail	1	skitter30 480
Creature	0
Gamma Emerald	1	BuJaber 817
BuJaber	0
Not_Mafia	0
CreativeMod1	0
implosion	1	Gamma Emerald 621
Nicholas Cage	0
Spooghetioso	0
Skitter30	0
Carcalilly	5	Nicholas Cage 910; implosion 919; Music and Mail 1044; Almost50 1053; PenguinPower 1081

NOT VOTING:

CreativeMod1

Spoiler: Votes since last votecount not reflected above

none

Mod Notes

• Skitter30 v/la Fridays and Saturdays generally

And this is me still on Carca (notice the wagon is wearing out and RC himself isn't on her anymore?)

So, you saying I was "Unloading from the bus to get on to me when push comes to shove." is obviously a false statement. Carca wasn't going to get lynched at the time.

VOTE COUNT 1.13 and Updates

Deadline:

Sunset

9:00pm NYC on Thursday, October 4

, or

(expired on 2018-10-04 21:00:00)

With thirteen alive, it takes seven to lynch.

Player	Vote Total	Vote Identity
Almost50	0
PenguinPower	3	Not_Mafia 76; Creature 799; Spooghetioso 977
Music and Mail	2	skitter30 480; implosion 1228
Creature	0
Gamma Emerald	1	BuJaber 817
BuJaber	0
Not_Mafia	0
CreativeMod1	0
implosion	1	Gamma Emerald 1275
Nicholas Cage	0
Spooghetioso	2	Carcalilly 1322; Music and Mail 1352
Skitter30	0
Carcalilly	3	Nicholas Cage 910; Almost50 1053; PenguinPower 1081

NOT VOTING:

CreativeMod1

Spoiler: Votes since last votecount not reflected above

several.

• Carcalilly unvoted in 1100
  
• Gamma Emerald voted Carcalilly in 1134
  
• Music and Mail unvoted in 1183
  
• Music and Mail voted implosion in 1191

Mod Notes

• BuJaber v/la through Sunday
  
• Skitter30 v/la Fridays and Saturdays generally
  
• CreativeMod1 will be prodded (#2) shortly following this post

Now this is me switching to other flipped scum (before I went back to you). This was -again- me sheeping RC.

Why would scum!me only sheep RC on SCUM, and oppose him on Town (Gamma, PP, implo)??

Weren't you already voting there? Or is this a hint for me to start sheeping already?

OK..

VOTE: Spooghetioso

Then after voting CMod (because he refused to check RC at the time) here I'm back on Spoogh once more

i also vibe spooghettioso/skitter interactions as having high probability of being SvS which is why I've been pushing for that lynch so much.

VOTE: Spooghetsio

I can sheep you on this one today. No problem.

Then I went back to you bc you had a wagon going on, while Carca/Spoogh didn't

VOTE COUNT 1.15 and Updates

Deadline:

Sunset

9:00pm NYC on Thursday, October 4

, or

(expired on 2018-10-04 21:00:00)

With thirteen alive, it takes seven to lynch.

Player	Vote Total	Vote Identity
Almost50	0
PenguinPower	4	Not_Mafia 76; Creature 799; Spooghetioso 977; Nicholas Cage 1543
Music and Mail	1	skitter30 480
Creature	0
Gamma Emerald	0
BuJaber	0
Not_Mafia	0
CreativeMod1	0
implosion	0
Nicholas Cage	5	PenguinPower 1561; Music and Mail 1586; implosion 1594; Almost50 1595; BuJaber 1596
Spooghetioso	0
Skitter30	1	Gamma Emerald 1578
Carcalilly	0

NOT VOTING:

Carcalilly 1623; CreativeMod1

Spoiler: Votes since last votecount not reflected above

none.

Mod Notes

• Skitter30 v/la Fridays and Saturdays generally
  
• BuJaber v/la through Sunday
  
• PenguinPower v/la through Monday

And I held my ground till the day ended, while all 3 of you (You+Carca+Spoogh) voted PP to get the pressure off YOU.

You see, it is obvious from the VCA that PP was your CW. TWO CONFIRMED SCUMS already show on him raher than you (if you were both Town then the usual distribution is one on each wagon and one on a vnity wagon or not voting)

Then at the start of D:

OK i can run with that. that's strictly worse than checking me because I'm 100% sure that I'd have figured out that skitter was town if she stopped calling me scum every ten seconds but
here's my big question to everyone in the game. I think NM is town, like, most of the time-ish. enough that I'm fine mostly leaving them out of discussion and then just lynching them if the big 4 fails

If I'm right on {Gamma/Implo/Carca/NC} who is the town in that pool?

Replace Gamma with Spoogh and we've got identical lynch pools

So, it's OBVIOUS that I was defending Gamma all the way since he towntold for me (his response to my test), and it's even more obvious I had SRs on you, Carca AND Spoogh since D1.

I'm going to stop now because this getting toooooo long (perhaps I should spoiler it?)

[Almost50]

I'm not okay with me dying and y'all letting implo walk to endgame
I'm conftown now sheep me tyty

Don't dare repeat yesterday's mistake. I warned you against lynching Gamma and you didn't listen. We lynch the guilty today and we lynch NC tomorrow and IF the game isn't over (5% a chance or less IMHO) then I will follow the majority, but that's really a bridge we cross when we come to it.

[Almost50]

Sorry if concession is disappointing, I strongly considered doing a faceoff with A50, but the game has seemed hopeless since the failed kill on Skitter.

No, that was the civil way to do it IMHO. No need to keep a game going when the outcome is already decided 100%

Just out of curiosity though, who would you have shot tonight if you didn't concede?

[Almost50]

what? a50 was fakeclaiming?

dramatic gasp

[Almost50]

yeah i was pretty confident he was lying about that lol

You & RC didn't buy the N1 part I guess, but the important thing is the scum team did.

[Almost50]

I submitted a night kill before conceding; it's noted in the mod thread (skitter kill was a success).

Shoot! I picked the wrong target of the two to protect then. I mean, I was certainly going to protect one of the two mechanically confirmed townies anyway, but I guess I figured you'd go for RC since you thought there was no N4 Doctor.

[Almost50]

@teacher: Thanks for modding

[Almost50]

@Nic: I am also curious as to what your main is, but I will only ask you to tell me if you definitely decide to kill it. If you still intend to use it then you might as well keep it anonymous to the majority of the players for as long as you can.

[Almost50]

Weirdly enough the thing that made me happiest was NM flipping town.
Okay that's a lie catching scum was #1.

Pedit: yes I'm sure mod will open it soon.

Do you have any idea how to tell if he's Town or Scum by play though?? (I do!)

[Almost50]

I don't know.. I was pretty confident of it here but it's like I get it right twice and then I think I'm in tune with his meta and then the 3rd time it's a curveball.

Well, he confused me for almost 2 years until I figured out how to read him.

[Almost50]

@A50 - can I get that answer about my scum meta now?

Unfortunately, not yet!