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Post Post #2196 (isolation #200) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:32 am

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It matters now because I am a n2 cop, so that’s when I took in the gamestate to determine my selection. And around the beginning of d2 you were in several lynchpools which just sorta changed towards the middle of the day.
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Post Post #2197 (isolation #201) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:33 am

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In post 2195, Music and Mail wrote:You're familiar with team mafia man

it's true that as of this year I haven't been efforting as scum but like in terms of an overall picture of my two games I have absolutely given this much effort into scum games before
You can effort like this as scum
But I don’t see the motive.
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Post Post #2201 (isolation #202) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:40 am

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Um the quote tags on that look a little fucked up
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Post Post #2203 (isolation #203) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:41 am

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That was at skitters last post
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Post Post #2207 (isolation #204) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 6:42 am

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In post 2204, skitter30 wrote:
In post 2201, Gamma Emerald wrote:Um the quote tags on that look a little fucked up
huh that's weird; i'll post it again if you want me to
That’s probably for the best yeah
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Post Post #2227 (isolation #205) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:14 am

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In post 2223, Nicolas Cage wrote:Well, Gamma has certainly put some work into reads, Spoog has refused to give a list even though that's what I was waiting for, and M&M has abandoned Gamma. Not sure what to do with that last bit but ok.

If Spoog flips town then I think we'll have more to work with in finding Gamma's partner.

My main concern is that Gamma's reads seemed a little bit political. I guess M&M observed this for his slot and I kinda felt like Gamma was dancing around my slot as well.

But I don't know that's enough because I also somewhat got the sense that for at least some slots Gamma was trying to sort, and I'm not really getting that from Spoog right now. Spoog seems to be mostly playing the newbie card.

Honestly I've had a hard time getting either one of these slots outside of null. The main thing I had liked about Gamma was Gamma's interaction with Spoog earlier so trying to re-evaluate that part of the game is throwing me off.
How am I dancing around you? I have to sort you, and at the point I am currently there's absolute jack to work with.
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Post Post #2241 (isolation #206) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 10:59 am

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In post 2240, Nicolas Cage wrote:you know what

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

I think it'd be easier for Gamma to fake the pokemon interactions than spoog
What “Pokémon interactions”?
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Post Post #2248 (isolation #207) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:36 pm

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In post 2243, Nicolas Cage wrote:
In post 2241, Gamma Emerald wrote:What “Pokémon interactions”?
Back on page 9 of the game thread, your interaction with Spoog had initially struck me as possibly T&T. Seems like not now tho but that was what informed my read before so that's what I went back to now
Okay
I thought you meant interactions with either Creature or NM which would have been really strange if so
Don’t see why that has to be faked unless we’re scum together though?
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Post Post #2250 (isolation #208) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:46 pm

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In post 2249, Nicolas Cage wrote:For Spoog I felt like creating pet names or jokes for every slot reflected engagement, that they were thinking about the slot and having fun with it. I feel like I see that sort of stuff more from town.

I felt like Gamma was trying to get past the jokes and get on the same level as Spoog which also seemed townie. Clearly I was wrong about one of the two, and looking at it now I guess Gamma's comments might have just been something in the ballpark of iioa, whereas my thoughts about Spoog kinda remain the same. It's not that I scumread Gamma for page 9, it's that there has to be scum in one of the two and for me Spoog still seems a bit townie from that interaction.
Well that’s not the only thing in the game. What do you think about everything else?
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Post Post #2259 (isolation #209) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:04 pm

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In post 2256, CreativeMod1 wrote:Also, speaking to those who have played this set-up before

When a mafia claims doc/cop...what's the likelyhood of them using the information of how many of each roles are in game e.g. would a mafia claim to being a cop because they know there isn't a full set of 6 cops?
Certain. As I mentioned in first post if the game the last run had a strategy play out where everyone claimed a role but not the night they could use it (so just cop or doc). When I posted about it I said it should be done early because the first scumslip would make the strategy ineffective at finding any scum, since at that point the could claim in a way that fit the existing roles. In all:
4:6 - whatever role there are 4 of
5:5 - one of each
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Post Post #2266 (isolation #210) » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:25 pm

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No M&M is RC, they were just referring to themselves in the third person
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Post Post #2380 (isolation #211) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:10 pm

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In post 2366, teacher wrote:
Nicolas Cage,
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Please keep the post-game discussion civil.
Wat
Also I’ll admit my reasoning for tring M&M was actually pretty shaky but I still think execution wise wrt their revival of the game they were obvtown
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Post Post #2387 (isolation #212) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:14 pm

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In post 2374, RadiantCowbells wrote:sry gamma I failed you

i do get the mitigating factor of having actually wanted the nic cage lynch that day but :shrug:
Tbh I think I was a bit of an idiot for not remembering 1-shot = the core reason for investigating like I did not being necessary (a Town result forcing me to out)
Also what would have made you TR me?
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Post Post #2390 (isolation #213) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:16 pm

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In post 2377, implosion wrote:Also yeah, gamma's check on spoogh was indeed pretty game-winning.
Yea I guess.
Town won one of these for once!
Though if I had investigated you it would’ve been the second game I got a clear on you as cop in.
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Post Post #2392 (isolation #214) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:17 pm

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In post 2389, RadiantCowbells wrote:by the end prolly nothing i was just super super convinced that the interaction at eod1 where you said to lynch me if penguin flipped scum was a scumclaim
Srsly? If Penguin flipped scum I’d accept that, but he flipped town, and I made it clear that the townflip changed how I perceived you.
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Post Post #2397 (isolation #215) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:23 pm

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In post 2394, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 2392, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2389, RadiantCowbells wrote:by the end prolly nothing i was just super super convinced that the interaction at eod1 where you said to lynch me if penguin flipped scum was a scumclaim
Srsly? If Penguin flipped scum I’d accept that, but he flipped town, and I made it clear that the townflip changed how I perceived you.
like i felt like you essentially strongarmed me using fear of being mislynched into wagoning penguinpower who flipped town
I guess I can see that
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Post Post #2398 (isolation #216) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:24 pm

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I did enjoy the power trip I got eod1 though. RC, I think I wanna try hydraing with you to refine that experience. You down?
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Post Post #2402 (isolation #217) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:28 pm

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And I didn’t say this while I was in the game for fear of jeopardizing my position, but I had nothing against you when I copped you Spoogh, and I think you are a fun player. I hope we can both roll Town in another game soon.
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Post Post #2403 (isolation #218) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:29 pm

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Tbh I’m feeling shout-outs are in order here, gonna work on them soonish
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Post Post #2407 (isolation #219) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:32 pm

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In post 2404, Nicolas Cage wrote:RC I think I'm gonna close this alt. Who did you think I was?
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Post Post #2410 (isolation #220) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:39 pm

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In post 2408, Postie wrote:Good job guys; sorry I wasn't around to actually push any of my reads

Oh and Spoog you're still transparently an established player masquerading as a newb
And while I think you planned your shtick on account creation and didn't intend it to be tactical I also think it's somewhat gross you ended up kinda using it that way
Who is Spoogh then
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Post Post #2413 (isolation #221) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:45 pm

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Fair
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Post Post #2415 (isolation #222) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:46 pm

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In post 2414, Almost50 wrote:
In post 2401, Nicolas Cage wrote:I submitted a night kill before conceding; it's noted in the mod thread (skitter kill was a success).
Shoot! I picked the wrong target of the two to protect then. I mean, I was certainly going to protect one of the two mechanically confirmed townies anyway, but I guess I figured you'd go for RC since you thought there was no N4 Doctor.
Protecting RC was a good move anyway imo
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Post Post #2433 (isolation #224) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:04 pm

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You’re EVERYWHERE man
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Post Post #2435 (isolation #225) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:08 pm

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In post 2434, Krazy wrote:I made Nic so that I wouldn't be expected to hard meta everyone, basically wanted to take a break for a bit lol. I think it worked in my favor here in a significant way because if I was on my main I definitely could not have been nearly as lurky.
True, the BoP would’ve been hardcore
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Post Post #2437 (isolation #226) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:05 pm

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Shout-outs!
Almost50: heck yeah, town pals for life! I love how we basically both confed each other as town so quickly in conjunction. Working with you is a treat. And I’ll tell you how to read me eventually, but I will say I think there’s a bit of a subversion happening in my meta.
PenguinPower: Sorry for forcing the lynch onto you, but whenM&M kept jumping through hoops to not vote you I had to call their bluff.
Music and Mail: Nice job nailing Carca, and I think your sitting was alright even if it came to some wrong conclusions.
Creature: I don’t remember what you did that much tbh. Gj anyways.
BuJaber: Sorry about tunneling you, but those WERE some mental gymnastics you had going on there. I’m decent as scum, but I’m not at the galaxy-brain level that could accomplish what you were accusing me of here.
Not_Mafia: You did good I guess? Gj getting that guilty.
CreativeMod1: I guess copping skitter was alright, gj.
implosion: Sorry for reading you wrong. I really don’t have a clue how to read you I guess.
Nicolas Cage: Lol Sorry for the loss? You kinda tried. Also I guess my theory about scum being inexperienced was kinda wrong.
Spooghetioso: As I’ve said, I have nothing against you. If you aren’t new though, you playing up the newbiness was extremely gross bro.
skitter30: Agggh still salty you check M&M over NC, we could have had a complete shutdown on scum.
Carcalilly: YOU FOOLED ME FOR THE LAST TIME! I TRUSTED YOU! Lol, we good. Maybe I can actually get some good meta knowledge out of this game
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Post Post #2438 (isolation #227) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:07 pm

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In post 2436, schadd_ wrote:"spooge"
Wait was that you
Wtf was your deal with attacking me like that?
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Post Post #2442 (isolation #228) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:25 pm

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Yeah, that’s about what I’ve been noticing myself (and what I mentioned wrt my meta subversion, I think Town effort is going down while scum effort is going up)
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