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Post Post #2525 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:58 am

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Spoiler: TMIing volxen's lynch
In post 491, Eragon wrote:Literally the only play is to kill volxen.

If we lynch him and he’s watcher, then someone else takes his place and we get their results N1

If we lynch him and he’s scum, GREAT!

If we don’t lynch him and he’s watcher, and he’s town, he dies tonight and we don’t get results for N1

If we don’t lynch him and he’s scum, we’ll then we lynch him tommorow, which is a day later than we should
In post 492, Eragon wrote:No matter what volxen flips he’s always the lynch
In post 494, Eragon wrote:There’s literally no other play that gives us value
In post 497, Irrelephant11 wrote:Right but scum lynch and lose a night of watcher is better than watcher lynch and keep a night of watcher
But you're right about the general strat I'm just saying if volxen is town the one good reason to maybe not lynch him is to lynch scum, regardless of claim
In post 498, Eragon wrote:Ok, I guess I see that.


In post 593, Eragon wrote:19999999999999% confirmed town{Nauci}
kidding.


{Irrelephant, The worst, Keyser}
{toranaga, nauci}
{Ausuka, NSG}
{dunnstral, Reundo}


right now Im not very confident on the reads themselves, because I haven't had ISO dive time yet.
Basically this is just the strength of my reads, so the top bracket is my strongest town reads(but not, like, confirmed town, or "IMO never ever flips scum town")
second is town reads, but could sort of go either way
Ausuka and NSG are basically null
And dunn and Reundo are both small scum reads, but not very confident in them
Has dunn in his scumpool all of d2, but never pushes him until it becomes eragon/dunn competing wagons
Spoiler: Prodging for like a week
In post 594, Eragon wrote:ill explain things/go more in depth/re-order/do stuff later if I have time
In post 705, Eragon wrote:Ok it’s the weekend bt im golfing rn

Expect (hopefully) activity in about 7 hours when I’m back home.

Then I might actually do stuff. YAY!
In post 799, Eragon wrote:oh my god im the most awesomest FM player ever(complete /s)

i definitley didnt fall asleep at my desk, wake up and shut down my computer, losing all the open windows, then went to my golf tournement and forgot about everything.

Truly, none of this actually happened. (/s)
In post 800, Eragon wrote:well, i think i caught up on
some
sleep over the weekend and HW is mostly done so i should be able to do things rn on the bus :3
In post 805, Eragon wrote:
In post 802, the worst wrote:uhhh why is era's shameless prodging pinging me as towny
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im maybe doing stuff in the next hour.


Spoiler: Scumcases Ausuka without showing work on any other reads
In post 807, Eragon wrote: this is only their third post of the game and they already have p.much a full readlist and things on everyone that they can. Then gives a wishy washy read on Sesq saying they are probably TWTBAW, which I normally find is scum trying to WK town and because they know someone is town. Talks about Keyser active scumhunting, which is kinda NAI because anyone can “scumhunt” first one I see they think is scummy is Volxen, which is a read of “his contributions are kind of active lurking,” like… “What?” This almost seems like an attempt for early towncred if volxen flips. Seems kinda ehh about irrelephant TR’ing NSG for “game-solvey” but they themselves talked about Keyser genuinely Scumhunting.

hrmmm looking above their SR on Reundo is pretty much entrance comments so this is an ok vote and keeps In touch with their reads. But the “ugh thanks, I forgot” seemed kinda forced.
not just this but another before this, they’re talking a LOT about 2.718 and slight defending him with their posts. I dont think this means much as their slot flipped town, but it could be pocketing/towncred
“im awful at finding scum but ill try”
You have been trying
Whose to say your awful?
To me this reads as a reason to actually not find scum, by deprecating yourself and saying your bad at scum hunting

where did this naked vote come from??
and this kinda-naked vote after saying you like them as a TR, but you come back with saying its a shitread and voting them…

nothing really bad here, but somehow they already think they have the game to 3 scum out of 6 players? Which seems overconfident to me, and they said they dont normally have confidence in 202
this is now the third time naked voting Volxen, although at least they had reasoning for the SR.
in the mindset of an Ausuka/volxen team “Do we risk the flip or can we change?”



this is their D1 ISO that i got and im getting the impression they are probably scum
Bolded is
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scum indicative (look at 375)

so far nothing is suggesting townagon
In post 808, Eragon wrote:ill do the rest later but i aint got time for this rn
In post 849, Eragon wrote:
In post 847, Dunnstral wrote:Are you sring Not Voting?
wut are you tryna say here?
like this light interaction is how he interacts with the player he says is at the bottom of his PoE
In post 863, Eragon wrote:-snip-
In post 860, Toranaga wrote:kop/eragon is a very spicy spot indeed

the worst was talking about a world where both dunnstall and ausuka were town and it's a scary proposition but I'm gonna randomly guess that means kop is scum everytime and I'll be right too
dunn and ausuka are never both town IMO.
i mean, i know it might seem like im doing this because you said if their both town, then im scum, but as you could tell i had a SR on ausuka earlier and dunn was kinda skim SR, but not strong, so im confident that both my SR's arent wrong, i could definitely see 1 being town though.
In post 861, Toranaga wrote:like if both ausuka and dunn are town, where do we even go, right

we go kop/eragon

I don't remember a single eragon post now that I think about it
is it my avatar? 0.0
becuase i have a post <5 posts above yours
Everything in this quote is important later
In post 880, Eragon wrote:
In post 874, Toranaga wrote:[snip]

ok I think eragon is town
who will i fight against if everyone thinks im town ;_;
suggests eragon is the reason we're in lylo
In post 920, Eragon wrote:
In post 910, Irrelephant11 wrote:@ Reundo/Nauci/Eragon/the worst

You should put your votes on one of the two leading wagons or NSG
Especially Eragon/the worst should
VOTE: Ausuka

ill probably maybe do stuff tommorow but from what i've actually read of the thread i feel the most confident in this
When told to make the choice, doesn't vote dunnstral
Spoiler: idk what to do with this readslist but feels like it might be important
In post 938, Eragon wrote:
TOWN CORE

-Nauci
-Toranaga
-Eragon
-the worst
-Irrelephant11

PoE Bracket

-northsidegal
-Ausuka
-Keyser Söze
-Dunnstral
-Reundo

Probably the town

-Reundo
-NSG

probably the scum

-keyser soze
-dunnstral
-ausuka

Spoiler: at this point nothing about dunnstral/eragon interactions are towny, I'm nearly ready to vote eragon tbh
In post 975, Eragon wrote:
In post 956, the worst wrote:good morning

VOTE: Dunnstral
fun
In post 957, Dunnstral wrote:Go back to sleep ducky you're wrong
spicy
In post 958, Irrelephant11 wrote:hey dunnstral please please post five more times before leaving
each with substantial meaning

it would be v towny of you and also helpful
he didnt do this... what does it mean to you?
In post 960, Dunnstral wrote:I started rethinking Ausuka on recent postings

I think I'd prefer to get Keyser Soze and I think he's been kind of awkward around the Ausuka vs Me Dynamic
can you elaborate on why its "awkward"
and what about Ausuka makes you rethink

-snip-

Spoiler: yuck
In post 976, Eragon wrote:
In post 915, Dunnstral wrote:UNVOTE: ausuka
In post 960, Dunnstral wrote:I started rethinking Ausuka on recent postings

I think I'd prefer to get Keyser Soze and I think he's been kind of awkward around the Ausuka vs Me Dynamic
ill go deeper on a read tommorow(yes, i know ive said this a million times) but on a surface level, either Ausuka and Dunnstral are SvS and dunn would rather get lynched than ausuka

or dunn is town

because i dont see Dunnstral backing off of his SR on the only other wagon with good traction(Ausuka) if he is scum and ausuka is town. IT just makes no sense from a scum PoV and preservation.

thats only surface level
In post 1027, Eragon wrote:Eh I’m good with dunnstral too, even if he’s not my #1

I really should probably ISO him
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Post Post #2526 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:05 am

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& :lol: :lol: :lol:
followed by is pretty non-partner indicative imo?
& is not as bus-y as 402 was


I'm very strongly leaning eragon now
I haven't fully ISO'd Tora yet, though
tbf I stopped at 1112 for Eragon but idk if I want to go much further
Honestly I think we were all like "Eragon/dunnstral competing wagons? Well town never does that to both remaining scum" forgetting that up until that point we'd been the most accurate and successful town ever, and it's not that unlikely

Thoughts? I feel close to "solve", though given my nature I'll probably flip flop till deadline
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Post Post #2527 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:52 am

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I have a bunch of stuff to do to prepare but I plan to spend the night basically solving this game as much as I can before my Lasik
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Post Post #2528 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:53 am

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If at all possible I'll do an annotated re-read again
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Post Post #2529 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:53 am

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But my gut just says that Eragon feels a lot like final day Errant in AP
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Post Post #2530 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:08 pm

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Votecount 5.05

Eragon (1)
- Toranaga

Not voting: Eragon, Irrelephant11, Nauci

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  • - Nauci will be V/LA from October 18 to October 23.
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Post Post #2531 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:22 pm

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Spoiler:
It starts with one thing
I don't know why
It doesn't even matter how hard you try
Keep that in mind
I designed this rhyme
To explain in due time
All I know
Time is a valuable thing
Watch it fly by as the pendulum swings
Watch it count down to the end of the day
The clock ticks life away
It's so unreal
Didn't look out below
Watch the time go right out the window
Trying to hold on, but you didn't even know
Wasted it all just to watch you go
I kept everything inside
And even though I tried, it all fell apart
What it meant to me
Will eventually be a memory of a time when
I tried so hard
And got so far
But in the end
It doesn't even matter
I had to fall
To lose it all
But in the end
It doesn't even matter
One thing, I don't know why
It doesn't even matter how hard you try
Keep that in mind
I designed this rhyme
To remind myself of a time when
I tried so hard
In spite of the way you were mocking me
Acting like I was part of your property
Remembering all the times you fought with me
I'm surprised it got so
Things aren't the way they were before
You wouldn't even recognize me anymore
Not that you knew me back then
But it all comes back to me in the end
You kept everything inside
And even though I tried, it all fell apart
What it meant to me will eventually be a memory of a time when
I tried so hard
And got so far
But in the end
It doesn't even matter
I had to fall
To lose it all
But in the end
It doesn't even matter
I've put my trust in you
Pushed as far as I can go
For all this
There's only one thing you should know
I've put my trust in you
Pushed as far as I can go
For all this
There's only one thing you should know
I tried so hard
And got so far
But in the end
It doesn't even matter
I had to fall
To lose it all
But in the end
It doesn't even matter


im trying to find time to do stuff, but im just swamped to the neck.
im HOPING that I can defend/do ISO on the way back home from school tommorow if I dont have too much HW, but its just really hard to promise anything right now.

If it wasn't LyLo and I didnt have so much ingrained and invested into this game(At the start) I probably would have replaced out.

im really really sorry I can't be around more, just this sophomore year of high school is going like a whirlwind taking 4/7 honors/AP and trying to make varsity golf
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Post Post #2532 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:47 am

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@Nauci technically we have till the 25th if you need the time
It'd be a prodgy five days but we can wait till deadline if you prefer

Also congrats on Lasik!
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Post Post #2533 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:15 am

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IDK what a lasik is but congrats nauci!

eragon still the scum between eragon and irrel hopefully

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Post Post #2534 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:50 am

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I didn't get through enough of the game last night so I'll have to come back for this later

but I keep imagining NSG in the dead thread shouting at us to not let Tora end game us
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Post Post #2535 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:51 am

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In post 2533, Toranaga wrote:IDK what a lasik is but congrats nauci!

eragon still the scum between eragon and irrel hopefully

I'm paying to get lasers shot at my eyeballs ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
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Post Post #2536 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:54 am

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In post 2534, Nauci wrote:I didn't get through enough of the game last night so I'll have to come back for this later

but I keep imagining NSG in the dead thread shouting at us to not let Tora end game us
lol same
probably I would have voted eragon by now if this wasn't in my head
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Post Post #2537 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:14 am

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In post 2535, Nauci wrote:
In post 2533, Toranaga wrote:IDK what a lasik is but congrats nauci!

eragon still the scum between eragon and irrel hopefully

I'm paying to get lasers shot at my eyeballs ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
I see what you mean

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Post Post #2538 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:14 am

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let tora endgame you please
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Post Post #2539 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:19 am

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I thought I'd be able to do more while waiting but they gave me a Valium to prepare for the procedure so I'm probably not good at thinking right now
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Post Post #2540 (ISO) » Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:20 am

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In post 2536, Irrelephant11 wrote:
In post 2534, Nauci wrote:I didn't get through enough of the game last night so I'll have to come back for this later

but I keep imagining NSG in the dead thread shouting at us to not let Tora end game us
lol same
probably I would have voted eragon by now if this wasn't in my head
While sleeping last night I literally dreamed about that lol
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Post Post #2541 (ISO) » Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:17 am

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its the weekend finally.

i should hopefully have time to post this weekend
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Post Post #2542 (ISO) » Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:02 pm

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I can look at screens for up to 5 minutes at a time now \o/
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Post Post #2543 (ISO) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:49 am

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We have plenty of time, but I feel pretty good about VOTE: Eragon
I’ll ISO Tora at some point too to make sure
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Post Post #2544 (ISO) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:45 pm

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Fucking damnit I forgot about this game again


Not that I had a ton of time to do anything but that’s beside he point


I don’t think I have time to post tommorow

I have a golf tourney, 15 god-like drawings to do by Monday, and the rest of shit tommorow

Honestly idgaf about this game anymore

Win/lose I had fun while it was going on and I just don’t really feel into it anymore as well as me trying to cut back on FM.
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Post Post #2545 (ISO) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:46 pm

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I’m not gonna self hammer cuz I don’t want to do that to you Nauci/irrel but I don’t really see a scenario where you pick Tora over me



Your choice

I’m letting you follow through this game.


Win it for us
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Post Post #2546 (ISO) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:31 am

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Toranaga has been prodded. He has (expired on 2018-10-22 15:31:12) to post before I start searching for his replacement.
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Post Post #2547 (ISO) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:00 pm

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:( Awww Eragon
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Post Post #2548 (ISO) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:01 pm

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I still don't want to hammer I want to reread just in case but ouch
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Post Post #2549 (ISO) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:43 pm

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Spoiler:
Look out, they're closing in on you now
Wake up, or you'll wake up six feet down
Nobody's got your back in this town
Knock em in the teeth now
Out here there's no negotiation
No room to start a conversation
Before you get a taste it's taken
Never let ya guard down

Get back, put your hands up
Kinda messed up, but it's tough luck
And I'm sorry, but I don't feel bad for you
Cause I know if, you could switch this
You'd be dishin' out the same shit, sayin' sorry, but I don't feel bad

Now I know
There's no one I can trust
I used to think there was
Tell me that I'm cut throat
I think your got your eyes closed
Feel the fear
And swallow back the tears
Let weakness disappear
There's nobody but me here
The killer in the mirror

Killer in the, killer in the, killer in the mirror
Killer in the, killer in the, killer in the mirror

Where did, all of the good people go?
They hide, behind the bars on windows
In hopes, they can forget we're close
Tryna get some of what they've got
Cause I, used to believe in justice
A place, where there was better judgment
But now, I'm feeling so disgusted
By the have it's and the have nots

Get back, put your hands up
Kinda messed up, but it's tough luck
And I'm sorry, but I don't feel bad for you
Cause I know if, you could switch this
You'd be dishin' out the same shit, sayin' sorry, but I don't feel bad

Now I know
There's no one I can trust
I used to think there was
Tell me that I'm cut throat
I think your got your eyes closed
Feel the fear
And swallow back the tears
Let weakness disappear
There's nobody but me here
The killer in the mirror

Killer in the, killer in the, killer in the mirror
Killer in the, killer in the, killer in the mirror

Knock em in the teeth now
Never let ya guard down
Get some of what they've got
Have it's and the have nots
Knock em in the teeth now
Never let ya guard down
When they step in your house
Knock, knock, knock em all the fuck out!

Now I know
There's no one I can trust
I used to think there was
Tell me that I'm cut throat
I think your got your eyes closed
Feel the fear
And swallow back the tears
Let weakness disappear
There's nobody but me here
The killer in the mirror

Killer in the, killer in the, killer in the mirror
Killer in the, killer in the, killer in the mirror
Feel the fear
And swallow back the tears
Let weakness disappear
There's nobody but me here
The killer in the mirror
Killer in the, killer in the, killer in the mirror
Killer in the, killer in the, killer in the mirr
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