Boundaries of Reality - [Game Over]

[MariaR]

Hi guys let's lynch some scum I'm so happy to finally play this ga-

Lady Angel, who was Bandit, and Town Desperado, died in Day 1.

oh

DVa, who was

Bandit

, and

Town

Desperado

, was

killed

in

Night 1

.

SirCakez, who was

Bandit

, and

Town

Desperado

, was

killed

in

Night 1

.

oh...

[MariaR]

I thought fakegod mistyped that it was day 1 and then I looked.
Nope
it's day 2 alright
L o l

[MariaR]

What I’m concerned about is scum not killing ND39, who was confirmed Town

Wouldn't think too hard about it. NKA is shit

[MariaR]

What I’m concerned about is scum not killing ND39, who was confirmed Town

Wouldn't think too hard about it. NKA is shit

You wanna help or are you just gonna bad-mouth my ideas?

Not bad mouthing your ideas. I'm saying NKA is shit I've always thought that.

[MariaR]

That's... quite a lot of death

VOTE: Sakura
This feels fake considering it's a fakegod game and I don't think sakura should be shocked at this at all.

[MariaR]

VOTE: maria
dont like any of her posts today

They're my only posts today come on.

[MariaR]

That's... quite a lot of death

VOTE: Sakura
This feels fake considering it's a fakegod game and I don't think sakura should be shocked at this at all.

Uhh, how does me "faking" shocked help a supposed scum!me exactly? And why do you think I shouldn't be shocked?

*shrug* I just think it's fake. It's a fake god game where it's normally 3 scum does an extra kill

really

shock you here.

[MariaR]

Still dont like them
And sakura is town

If you think scum me would miss day 1/not check a scum pt don't know what to really tell ya. But I won't be the lynch today anyway so go on and have your fun.

[MariaR]

This playerlist is really good I just checked. I'm sad I missed day 1 of this.

[MariaR]

I do give you the point that maybe I should have expected this sort of thing albeit I didnt.
I do not understand still how it makes me scum nor why would I need to fake it.

hm. Faking emotion can be scummy but I do understand how that's not really pushing an agenda of anything.
UNVOTE:
Alright got my eye on you though still missy
Pedit: Kokichi can be town if only for the fact he's making me snicker
Pedit2: NOOOO SCUM? AND A ROLEBLOCKER? Call the media

[MariaR]

I'm still shocked you think I can be scum who missed day 1 but that's always personal bias.

[MariaR]

I'm still shocked you think I can be scum who missed day 1 but that's always personal bias.

Why would you not miss Day 1 as scum?

I would've seen the scum pt when I click private topics.

[MariaR]

I'm still shocked you think I can be scum who missed day 1 but that's always personal bias.

Why would you not miss Day 1 as scum?

I would've seen the scum pt when I click private topics.

Scum PT doesn’t tell you what phase it is though?

I didn't know this game started until I got the "day 2" msg is the thing.

[MariaR]

I'm pretty sure I must've clicked on msgs at one point and just didn't read the fg msg.
Having a scum pt would change that because you obv see the scum pt in your private topics and I would've clicked on that and saw the game started

[MariaR]

I have not. Read this game. Because I just

saw

it was day 2

[MariaR]

Do you know what roles scum have wisdom?
Do you know who scum is?
No?
Then you don't have all the variables argo nka is shit

[MariaR]

Do you know what roles scum have wisdom?
Do you know who scum is?
No?
Then you don't have all the variables argo nka is shit

Bad argument, you're saying it's bad because we don't know who scum is

You're not giving a valid answer for why the argument is bad

[MariaR]

Do you know what roles scum have wisdom?
Do you know who scum is?
No?
Then you don't have all the variables argo nka is shit

Bad argument, you're saying it's bad because we don't know who scum is

You're not giving a valid answer for why the argument is bad

Because the entire purpose of NKA is finding scum
If we knew who they were, we wouldn’t have to do it, would we?

And I'm saying it's not a good tool to find scum because you don't have what you need to find said scum with it. It's a bit better with some flipped scum but not by much and

especially

not with 0

[MariaR]

maria pls
Theres a conftown
And scum didnt kill it
And youre arguing talking about that is shit

It's legit wifom

[MariaR]

Like you can talk about why they were killed and the answers are many
1) They thought they were strong prs
2) they thought they'd never get lynched
3) They were scumreading the right people
4) they were townreading someone scum wanted lynched
5) Framing

like so many answers to why scum killed X we don't know the answer and we're not gonna know the answer.

[MariaR]

thats generic shit

and nobody's discussing why cakez or dva was killed

"why is nancy alive"
who the fuck cares she's a conf town

[MariaR]

And I will continue not to read. The game doesn't need my input because you guys clearly played day 1 so well. I'm not dying today period so look elsewhere

[MariaR]

Maria wouldn't play this badly as scum. So shes town for now

i disagree
It strongly feels like scum maria who argues bs just to argue with no real point to be made

You were the one who turned this into an argument in the first place. I just stated my thoughts on NKA and you jumped on me for it. Talking about why Nancy is alive isn't the issue or should have been it should be looking at how to deal with things now that Lady has flipped and who was pushing her. If you use the argument of me scum that means it's only 2 for day 1. That should be telling

[MariaR]

Let's ignore the fact about me not being scum because that obv isn't gonna convince anyone whatever I'll swallow my pride on that one even if I think it's annoying slightly. (Like do you think I'm lying here or.)
Who were the main pushes of the Lady angel wagon.
Pedit: It is Nancy

[MariaR]

Like you can talk about why they were killed and the answers are many
1) They thought they were strong prs
2) they thought they'd never get lynched
3) They were scumreading the right people
4) they were townreading someone scum wanted lynched
5) Framing

like so many answers to why scum killed X we don't know the answer and we're not gonna know the answer.

Those don’t really resemble WIFOM I think
WIFOM is where you argue back and forth about whatever being Town or Scum
Here it’s more just coming to a conclusion, as once you have an idea you’re likely to stick to it until other evidence is presented, at which point you’ll reconsider

Normally when people use NKA it leads to someone saying player A saying player B would gain most from that death and then player B can argue they wouldn't kill them etc. This can be talked about post game because mostly it's just making empty noise at the moment.

[MariaR]

That would be WIFOM yes
But it all depends on whether the person who is making the argument is willing to consider that.

Fair enough.

[MariaR]

Who were the main pushes of the Lady angel wagon.

I was. Everyone else sheeped me.

What did Lady do that you demanded everyone to sheep you because I don't even need to re read to know that you don't tell people to sheep you

[MariaR]

Desp is prob the most common role in the game given it's the sample role pm.

[MariaR]

I'll ignore this thread and come back when I'm a bit on the less annoyed side given the sub optimal play that's happening. Maybe with me out of the thread people can focus on serious events instead of arguing over things that are overall meaningless
Pedit: And my point is proven.

[MariaR]

VOTE: Hebi
Don't mind this
maq can be town

[MariaR]

the fuck.

[MariaR]

1 scum in Varsoon/Nos Prob varsoon
Wisdom is prob just scum
Haven't read a single UT post
Marq town
Sakura Gamma Nancy ?????

[MariaR]

nancy isn't cof town
neither is dunn.

[MariaR]

nancy isn't cof town
neither is dunn.

ORly, how
Btw VOTE: MariaR
This doesn’t leave unless either you explain that impeccably or someone else does something sketchier

tilts head

What's with the aggression Gamma~
Also why would you vote me in the first place. Answer this and I'll happily answer your question

[MariaR]

I can see fakegod adding some type of god father role vs all these desps. In fact I expect it with 3 scum for at least 1 to be immune to this shit. Nancy still beling alive well....
Why does Dunn's role make him clear to you.

[MariaR]

A scum 2 shot vig is "broken and unfun?"

[MariaR]

You do realize you're not bringing a valid counter argument correct?

[MariaR]

I could see a scum 2 shot vig given we had a scum even night poisoner last time.
It's not impossible

[MariaR]

Hm.
I think it's correct to play this game by finding townreds regardless of desp shots and you look at the poe from that view point.
For now I have 2 perhaps 3. 4 more to go
Pedit: Go on then. No one is holding you back

[MariaR]

I could see a scum 2 shot vig given we had a scum even night poisoner last time.
It's not impossible

That had a counter in the doctor though
There’s absolute jack for stopping kills on town’s end rn

Yes the 1 doctor to stop from getting poisoned.
Also just because nothing has shown up

doesn't mean we don't have protectives.

Anyway you're town so is marq you gonna keep that vote or move on sweet cheeks?
Pedit: That doesn't stop you from voting now does it.

[MariaR]

He's already dead and town friend.

[MariaR]

VOTE: Wisdom

[MariaR]

Ut is prob getting bussed today if he's scum if I had to guess

[MariaR]

I could ask you the same question.
I have no reason to townread you to put it simply. So I think you're scum. If UT really did just coast all game I'll prob vote him for pure info.
Your sakura read interests me plus I do like your reads list minus nancy and dunn at the top

[MariaR]

It doesn't help that you said you strongarmed a town and then call me awful the whole game.

[MariaR]

I don't believe !town you would think I'm scum for being "awful"

[MariaR]

So According to MariaR scum has a 2 shot vig and on top of that a role that reflects a desperado shot back at them?
I can buy the vig, the other seems like a godfather style role and I doubt FakeGod would use something like that.
VOTE: MariaR
Wisdom's right, this doesnt sound right for Maria.

Why does a god father style role sound so out of the question to you? What doesn't

sound

like me because to me it just seems like you disagree with my theory and while that's fine to do. How does that change how I sound

[MariaR]

Didn't play that

[MariaR]

can see that

[MariaR]

can you also see sakura/ut/varsoon?

2 out of 3 of those yeah.

[MariaR]

It's more so I

could

see Sakura scum but I'm more confident in UT/varsoon

[MariaR]

Im least confident on varsoon
Why is he scum?

I'll be able to explain in a few hours busy atm.

[MariaR]

Nos feels the same as always but I've never played with scum him so I have 0 clue how he plays as scum.
Pedit: I think UT should die today regardless. His chance of being scum is pretty high too but ik I don't want him in lylo

[MariaR]

Yes Varsoon because scum me wouldn't play D1 and my partners wouldn't make sure I'm here you got me
VOTE: Varsoon

[MariaR]

fine fine ut first.
VOTE: UT

[MariaR]

I would never lurk out day 1 because I'm not that big a tryhard to try and lurk out day 1 for the sake of winning lol

[MariaR]

I'm sure you are.

[MariaR]

Ok I promised to say why varsoon is scum time to eat and do so

[MariaR]

Good pont and she couldn’t be linked to any D1 wagons.

If you want to claim that I wasn't here and I'm scum day 1 fine by all means.
But if you think I would

ever

deliberately lurk as scum just for a win you don't know me.

[MariaR]

as a sidenote I'm wary of people suddenly coming to my defense (partially because it feels like it never happens) especially Wisdom with the "but UT could still be scum" aside.

It like 50% strikes me as scum trying to take advantage of Nancy's mindset right now.

Wisdom is still on my would not lynch today pile though and I like this wagon so I'll stay put.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Wisdom

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Nos

UNVOTE:

Still weird but probably not scummy.

VOTE: Maria?

UNVOTE:

Fuck it.

VOTE: Tripod

Nancy if you're town and questioning why scum are living you alive you have your answer right here

[MariaR]

I feel like a lot of varsoons posting is just words with no real good thought process behind them. I see an agenda in the posts he makes and sometime he talks about mech posting but that's to just seem busy. Infact that's exactly how I caught him day 1 the last time we played. I'm pretty confident he's scum here.

[MariaR]

Agreed they'd have more content then your other ones.

[MariaR]

I regret everything

[MariaR]

So like
In order for MariaR to think a Godfather exists
Has to be contingent on thinking the reason why the Desperado shot on your failed is because you're a Godfather
So MariaR had to be aware of the Desperado shot on you

I got the impression that she hadn’t ruled that out. Is she also aware that one kill was likely blocked N1?

Is that so? How do we know this

[MariaR]

Jokes on you I can't read

[MariaR]

she tricked all the town with her amazing scum skills and made it to endgame

FTFY

[MariaR]

Wisdom/Sakura cross will be so fun to deal with tomorrow.

[MariaR]

Nos post felt really townie on the last page and I'm perking my brow at you not seeing that.

[MariaR]

Waiting for a desperado in my poe to take action

Is this going to be a long day?

For someone who's suppose to be the towns clear and leader you sure are taking a back seat and not doing much.

[MariaR]

Yeah with 7 dead I highly doubt any more exist

[MariaR]

dw sakura I got you

[MariaR]

your lack of doing anything didn't either.

[MariaR]

I guess Dunn is town for no one else claiming the kills on the 3 person death. Alright that helps my poe. Doesn't help he's still being a parrot

[MariaR]

Sakura is obv town with Gamma come on now.

[MariaR]

Sakura, what is your read on Maria?

My read on her went to "probably town" around the same time I voted Wisdom.

Why do you think she’s “probably town”?

I just feel like scum MariaR wouldnt be this insistent on the godfather theory.

Why do you think a godfather can't be a thing when we have at least 7 desps all town vs scum. They gotta have some type of counter.
We know they have a vig or some shit but there's got to be more to it then that

[MariaR]

taking a dive for scumpal Maria.

ooo la la~

[MariaR]

What I’m wondering about is, why Maria thinks that scum wouldn’t want to kill me for being clueless

You're pretty easy to control. If I knew more about you before hourglass I would've never nk'd you and just made sure you follow the path I wanted you too. So I'm not shocked at all at you being alive that's the bad part. If I thought you weren't easy to control you being alive would be ??? but I can understand why scum would keep you alive. You're obv alive if you're scum too so it's just a ?

[MariaR]

Why do you think a godfather can't be a thing when we have at least 7 desps all town vs scum. They gotta have some type of counter.
We know they have a vig or some shit but there's got to be more to it then that

As I said, I 100% doubt FG would include a godfather type of role again without there being some kind of hint to it's existance in some form (Like how he hinted Millers' existance in sample role PM and i assume desperados PMs too)

Town doubted that all town could be main chars last game and look what happened to that. I wouldn't try to outguess FG that already went sour once
Pedit: Can you get the exact post or go look for it.

[MariaR]

W/e not like I could get Nancy lynched even if I wanted to rn.

[MariaR]

Varsoon
Wisdom
Marquis
Untrod Tripod
Nancy Drew 39

2 town in here and gg

[MariaR]

Alright thanks. That makes me feel a little better it's strange cause I talked to fg about this game and I don't remember him ever bringing that up so it made me feel weird how you guys were going "he'd never do that again"

[MariaR]

Maq/UT/Varsoon
how's that look?

[MariaR]

Also ew @ that scum team

hush scum.

[MariaR]

Sakura is obv town and if she's scum I lose.
Nos you could convince me on but he feels like town Nos given his interactions this game.

[MariaR]

Hey Nancy help my poe.

[MariaR]

I feel like the safer shot is Marq but wisdom solves a lot more games if he's scum.
If he's town he'll try to keep voting Sakura..hm
Like I feel if you shoot Marq we'll lynch UT tomorrow they'll be 1 scum between varsoon/wisdom but it'll still be hard to figure out (but I lean varsoon)
I don't want you to die so imo the safe shot of marq is better

[MariaR]

I think making sure you shoot scum today like marq is the best call because he'll likely be a ML if he's town

[MariaR]

I won't let the sakura ML happen.

[MariaR]

you think scum would kill me more conf town dun?

[MariaR]

We get UT tomorrow

[MariaR]

VOTE: Moment

[MariaR]

Day 4 started and ended before I even realized it had started...
Now i know how MariaR felt.

Right LOL
VOTE: Moment
anyway ffs nancy

[MariaR]

Is it time for a mass claim? It might be
UNVOTE:

[MariaR]

we're in mylo or lylo yes

[MariaR]

Considering you guys thought kills were even night and there was no 2nd kill n4 I believe it's mylo but better safe then sorry

[MariaR]

Nancy made this game hard with the wisdom shot but then again the game wouldn't be fun if it wasn't

[MariaR]

Why did you want gamma to do the order again? Is he clear?

[MariaR]

Fair. Did he ever claim results?

[MariaR]

Mfw that makes it so nancy shot conf town wisdom cause he got roleblocked too.
WHEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[MariaR]

Shoot moment

[MariaR]

lol moment.

[MariaR]

This was more a town loss if anything but gg

[MariaR]

I can't say I would've caught you I might've between you or nos but eh.
Varsoon was just yeah lol.

[MariaR]

I can't say I would've caught you I might've between you or nos but eh.
Varsoon was just yeah lol.

HEY HOLD THE PHONE
I WAS READY TO SHIMMY ON IN TO VICTORY
HOW THE FUCK I WENT A WHOLE GAME WITH MY BIG ASS MOUTH AND DIDN'T GET SHOT FOR IT IS A FUCKING MIRACLE AND GREAT PLAY ON MY PART YOOOOOO
I also had really good night actions if my blocks blocked all of what I think I blocked.

I HAD YOU PEGGED FROM THE START MR.
IF NANCY DIDN'T LOL SHOOT WISDOM I HAD MY SHOT LINED UP FOR YOUR ASS

[MariaR]

My thoughts on shooting moment over you were if moment was town we were losing the game regardless