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Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:04 pm

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This is my first Alice in Wonderland game
I’m 20% excited, 80% terrified
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Post Post #9 (isolation #1) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:07 pm

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Oh yeah
VOTE: DVa
Sorry, more of a Roadhog guy myself!
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Post Post #12 (isolation #2) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:10 pm

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In post 10, Varsoon wrote:
In post 4, SirCakez wrote:WHERE ARE PEOPLE
Present!
Also are we masons in this game?
In post 7, Gamma Emerald wrote:This is my first Alice in Wonderland game
I’m 20% excited, 80% terrified
Wait, is there mod meta on Alice in Wonderland games that I should know about?
Like
Why be terrified?
Idk
But I know FG’s overall mod meta is pretty wild
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Post Post #15 (isolation #3) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:29 pm

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In post 14, Varsoon wrote:I've played some of FG's wild rides in the touhou flavor, but this game seems much more grounded.
I was in the most recent of those
It was hellaciously crazy
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Post Post #30 (isolation #4) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:20 pm

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In post 20, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 17, Varsoon wrote:VOTE: Marquis

Why so eager to double down on the dunnstrain?
More like.
Why not?
VOTE: Dunn
Hai Sakura
Have you seen anything wrt that new LttP randomized mode Inverted? I’m hoping a tourney of that happens soon and Slim joins it. I watched him sporadically in the Vanilla randomizer and the Keysanity randomizer tourneys
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Post Post #31 (isolation #5) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 3:21 pm

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I think Dunn is town
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Post Post #70 (isolation #6) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:00 pm

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In post 32, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 6, Nosferatu wrote:VOTE: dunnstral
THIS TIME HE'S SCUM I PROMISE
I lied. Him being a Miller claim is NAI.
Nosferatu is a Kokichi alt? 0.0
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Post Post #71 (isolation #7) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:01 pm

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In post 43, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 36, Wisdom wrote:
In post 27, Dunnstral wrote:I'm a miller
Im also a miller
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How many millers do you think are likely in this game? Since, it’s FG, maybe 3 possibly?
Yeah I’m a miller too
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Post Post #76 (isolation #8) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:10 pm

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I recall that BG was repeated a lot in either the first or second Alice game (the Card Guards)
So that seems to just be the gimmick of the setup
Seems p tame of a gimmick
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Post Post #108 (isolation #9) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:58 pm

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In post 83, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 71, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah I’m a miller too
Btw why didnt u mention this in your first post?
Role related
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Post Post #109 (isolation #10) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:00 pm

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In post 107, hebichan wrote:I don't know Gamma doesn't normally just jump onto claims.

So it is weird to see him claim that easily there.

Gamma, was that a fake claim?
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I’d rather fakeclaim Miller in a position where I could skate to a YEET victory
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Post Post #157 (isolation #11) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:10 am

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In post 129, DVa wrote:
In post 117, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:But would scum likely fakeclaim miller on D1?
This is the part I didn't like -- I mean, isn't the answer yes? They looked at the sample role PM, people started claiming miller. Why does scum not claim miller here? You think all of them are real?

I mostly dislike that you were commenting a lot on setup but not evaluating the claims themselves, instead categorically accepting them as a clump at the time. I also dislike the meta defense of you, your own self-meta, and your criticism of Varsoon.

But I do like your attitude, you seem like a cool cat. Did you roll scum Nancy?
Why does likeable attitude = scum?
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Post Post #159 (isolation #12) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:15 am

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In post 151, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 148, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 106, Lady Angel wrote:
In post 104, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 101, Marquis wrote:btw sakura if you're town you're going to have to prove it

like yeah i misread you before when you actually were town but i still feel burned. like. just talk to me
proving im town is easy, and you dont even need to talk with me!
...what?

VOTE: Gamma Emerald
That miller claim is super shaky and more looks like you jumped on it for town points than an actual miller claim.
LA, why vote for GE while responding to a Sakura quote and as a first post, no less?
In post 158, Varsoon wrote:Sorry about that. It's mostly for Nancy.
TL;DR: I don't know if this is town Nancy or Nancy playing what she believes is town Nancy but she's leaning heavily on this being meta-NAI and town while also seeming to have info we don't and presenting game approach that isn't logical given the data sets she should have, if town.
Also Marquis never informed his Dunn push and is now pushing me 'cus I called that out :P
Idk that might just be how they play? This is off one game of meta though
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Post Post #166 (isolation #13) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:53 am

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In post 164, Kokichi Oma wrote:If you're a desperado. I say hip fire gamma since his Miller claim was not early or first post
Oh fuck that noiseVOTE: Kokichi
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Post Post #185 (isolation #14) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:38 am

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In post 184, Varsoon wrote:
In post 175, hebichan wrote:Why is nancy assuming that there is a scum desperado?I've read the set up and I don't get why you would assume sum would have a dayvig.
I think the logic is that in previous games by this mod there's been a running theme of
~5 people with a basic, kinda useless role (like Miller here)
~3 people with a more useful role (like Desperado here)
At least 1 scum with one of those roles

So the assumption is that scum would have something to key them into the fact town has a lot of desperados or millers, and likely scum has a miller or desperado, but scum having a desperado is a more mechanically interesting design even if it's problematic because, as the mod made real clear, any death during the day ends the day.
This is why Kokichi asking for a hip fire on me is a scum play fyi
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Post Post #191 (isolation #15) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:45 am

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It’s because he’s essentially calling for the day to end on page 7, when there’s still plenty to discuss
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Post Post #196 (isolation #16) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:50 am

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I’ll read what you said about LA
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Post Post #197 (isolation #17) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:52 am

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I don’t see what super scum indicative there? The combined thoughts in LA’s first post was explains exactly how I figured it would be, and while I dislike her pushing me, it’s a fair analysis
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Post Post #229 (isolation #18) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:31 am

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In post 199, Wisdom wrote:Ill make it easy for you
In post 99, Sakura Hana wrote:Marquis is right tho, Dunn claiming miller doesnt change a thing.
But I dislike more Gamma randomly coming and going "Oh yeah im a miller too" after other people claimed miller.
In post 106, Lady Angel wrote: VOTE: Gamma Emerald
That miller claim is super shaky and more looks like you jumped on it for town points than an actual miller claim.
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In post 170, Wisdom wrote:
In post 164, Kokichi Oma wrote:If you're a desperado. I say hip fire gamma since his Miller claim was not early or first post
why would you encourage desperados to hit millers
In post 173, Lady Angel wrote: Kokichi asking players to desperado millers when the desperado role kills millers like scum is a little ridiculous on day one. Wouldn't it be better to wait and reduce the number of possible misfires first?
Okay, I see it now
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Post Post #230 (isolation #19) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:33 am

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In post 215, Drixx wrote:Varsoon makes a really solid point. Giving scum a role that would end the day AND net them a mislynch (miller kill equates to a mislynch for the day) makes zero sense.

I would go so far as to say that if there were scum desperado this day would already be over. At least one of those miller claims is gross enough that I'm pretty sure a scum desperado could get away with shooting it.

@Gamma - I'm gonna need a better explanation for why you didn't claim miller post one.
Why are you blatantly rolefishing?
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Post Post #233 (isolation #20) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:42 am

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I already said it was role-related. So either you haven’t been reading properly or you’re rolefishing.
And day ends on a shot. Yeah, you need to actually read games. As it is I feel it’s possible you thought you could coast by pushing me.
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Post Post #235 (isolation #21) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:29 am

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I wasn’t aware of the Repeated Role thing being consistent across the series. I only knew about the setup in what I think was the first game? Beyond that The only thing I got out of the other games was the Main Character gimmick. So like, what you expected and what I expected are different things. And you say you’re calling attention to yourself, your initial post was pretty subtle with you slipping that question towards the end.
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Post Post #245 (isolation #22) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:44 am

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In post 239, Drixx wrote:
In post 235, Gamma Emerald wrote:I wasn’t aware of the Repeated Role thing being consistent across the series. I only knew about the setup in what I think was the first game? Beyond that The only thing I got out of the other games was the Main Character gimmick. So like, what you expected and what I expected are different things. And you say you’re calling attention to yourself, your initial post was pretty subtle with you slipping that question towards the end.
We've played together a LOT Gamma. You know I make posts which are multi-faceted. I expect a certain level of mental acumen from anyone playing mafia on a forum.

And ... supposing I take that post at face value you are essentially saying that you didn't claim miller 1st post because you misunderstood the base assumptions for the game?
Why...wouldn’t you take that at face value? And yeah, that’s what I’m saying. And idg what multi-faceted has to do with how much attention something gets but w/e
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Post Post #246 (isolation #23) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:45 am

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In post 236, Marquis wrote:coming back to ms.net and all these better than thou type attitudes is really just so irritating

i like gamma if only because he's straightforward without being snarky or mean about it
Btw I’m honored by this
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Post Post #256 (isolation #24) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:34 pm

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In post 255, SirCakez wrote:
In post 248, Varsoon wrote:Like it bugs me that you frame it as 'cus wis told varsoon, that is why he voted there' when that's not the case.
In post 249, Varsoon wrote:Like hey
SirCakez win this game for me
That's what it looked like to me b/c Wis nudged you on that page but I suppose we'll see.
And I'll try
if you're town
I also voted LA on Wisdom’s command though...
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Post Post #257 (isolation #25) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 1:12 pm

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Yo Sakura, Slim is live rn
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Post Post #268 (isolation #26) » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:39 pm

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Gfdi
So I can state what I meant by “role related” now. I’m a Miller 1-Shot Cop, tried to check SirCakez last night and got no result, which is honestly a better outcome than not getting blocked. When Dunnstral claimed I figured he could just be another of what my role is. It was only once there were more claims that I realized “no it’s not just me + one other”.
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Post Post #270 (isolation #27) » Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:53 pm

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Well I’m pretty sure that was a scum blocker because I softclaimed during the day
But I don’t see how that helps narrow anything down.
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Post Post #273 (isolation #28) » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:02 pm

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What I’m concerned about is scum not killing ND39, who was confirmed Town
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Post Post #276 (isolation #29) » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:13 pm

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In post 274, MariaR wrote:
In post 273, Gamma Emerald wrote:What I’m concerned about is scum not killing ND39, who was confirmed Town
Wouldn't think too hard about it. NKA is shit
You wanna help or are you just gonna bad-mouth my ideas?
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Post Post #307 (isolation #30) » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:37 pm

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In post 282, Wisdom wrote:VOTE: maria
dont like any of her posts today
I’ve actually been feeling the same
VOTE: MariaR
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Post Post #312 (isolation #31) » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:44 pm

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In post 308, MariaR wrote:I'm still shocked you think I can be scum who missed day 1 but that's always personal bias.
Why would you miss it as town but not scum?
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Post Post #314 (isolation #32) » Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:45 pm

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In post 313, MariaR wrote:
In post 310, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 308, MariaR wrote:I'm still shocked you think I can be scum who missed day 1 but that's always personal bias.
Why would you not miss Day 1 as scum?
I would've seen the scum pt when I click private topics.
Scum PT doesn’t tell you what phase it is though?
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In post 315, MariaR wrote:
In post 314, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 313, MariaR wrote:
In post 310, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 308, MariaR wrote:I'm still shocked you think I can be scum who missed day 1 but that's always personal bias.
Why would you not miss Day 1 as scum?
I would've seen the scum pt when I click private topics.
Scum PT doesn’t tell you what phase it is though?
I didn't know this game started until I got the "day 2" msg is the thing.
Even though there was a Day 1 message? And how would having a scum PT change that?
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Post Post #328 (isolation #34) » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:03 pm

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In post 327, MariaR wrote:
In post 325, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 323, MariaR wrote:Do you know what roles scum have wisdom?
Do you know who scum is?
No?
Then you don't have all the variables argo nka is shit
Bad argument, you're saying it's bad because we don't know who scum is
You're not giving a valid answer for why the argument is bad
Because the entire purpose of NKA is finding scum
If we knew who they were, we wouldn’t have to do it, would we?
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Post Post #349 (isolation #35) » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:31 pm

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In post 333, MariaR wrote:Like you can talk about why they were killed and the answers are many
1) They thought they were strong prs
2) they thought they'd never get lynched
3) They were scumreading the right people
4) they were townreading someone scum wanted lynched
5) Framing

like so many answers to why scum killed X we don't know the answer and we're not gonna know the answer.
Those don’t really resemble WIFOM I think
WIFOM is where you argue back and forth about whatever being Town or Scum
Here it’s more just coming to a conclusion, as once you have an idea you’re likely to stick to it until other evidence is presented, at which point you’ll reconsider
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Post Post #353 (isolation #36) » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:36 pm

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That would be WIFOM yes
But it all depends on whether the person who is making the argument is willing to consider that.
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Post Post #392 (isolation #37) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:11 am

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In post 373, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 372, Wisdom wrote:the problem with my theory is that cakez/dva could have been millers who didnt claim so eh. Would they risk it?
Do you think scum has a role cop because the odds of hitting a desperado. If there was a scum role cop n0, then that would be interesting.

VOTE: Tripod

Let’s try this. Marquis is also good.
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Post Post #408 (isolation #38) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 12:25 pm

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In post 407, Kokichi Oma wrote:Someone shoot someone
No.
VOTE: Kokichi Oma
This is still scum
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Post Post #412 (isolation #39) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:10 pm

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It’s a sustained reaction to it
But I’m not the only one who thinks that sort of movement from Kokichi is scummy, so nice try on dissuading me but it’s a hard pass
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Post Post #418 (isolation #40) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:23 pm

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In post 413, Untrod Tripod wrote:I must have missed the part where I tried to talk you out of your vote when I wrote the post, I guess I should try harder next time
Thats how it felt to me
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Post Post #490 (isolation #41) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:14 pm

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In post 488, Dunnstral wrote:ok, my role is Bandit king, I am a 2-shot vigilante miller, I shot Sircakez and hebichan
Sweet
So Dunn+Nancy conftown rn (unless someone disputes Dunn’s role)
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Post Post #492 (isolation #42) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:16 pm

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In post 491, MariaR wrote:nancy isn't cof town
neither is dunn.
ORly, how
Btw VOTE: MariaR
This doesn’t leave unless either you explain that impeccably or someone else does something sketchier
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Post Post #494 (isolation #43) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:19 pm

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Because it looks like you’re trying to devalue townclears, which when lacking a really good reason is super scummy
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Post Post #496 (isolation #44) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:22 pm

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Because that role being in scums hands would be broken and unfun
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Post Post #498 (isolation #45) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:26 pm

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On top of all the other crazy things going on giving scum 2 kills a night for 2 nights st the very least (cos if Dunn is scum it’s reasonable he’s lying about the two shot thing) just seems like making this a game scum were always supposed to win
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Post Post #503 (isolation #46) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:31 pm

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In post 500, MariaR wrote:I could see a scum 2 shot vig given we had a scum even night poisoner last time.
It's not impossible
That had a counter in the doctor though
There’s absolute jack for stopping kills on town’s end rn
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Post Post #506 (isolation #47) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:35 pm

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In post 505, MariaR wrote:
In post 503, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 500, MariaR wrote:I could see a scum 2 shot vig given we had a scum even night poisoner last time.
It's not impossible
That had a counter in the doctor though
There’s absolute jack for stopping kills on town’s end rn
Yes the 1 doctor to stop from getting poisoned.
Also just because nothing has shown up
doesn't mean we don't have protectives.
Anyway you're town so is marq you gonna keep that vote or move on sweet cheeks?
Pedit: That doesn't stop you from voting now does it.
Now that I think about it you have a point
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Post Post #509 (isolation #48) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:42 pm

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Okay
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Post Post #516 (isolation #49) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:09 pm

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In post 512, Wisdom wrote:Third probably sakura
Talk about this one, as it’s the only one I don’t see at least a little of
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Post Post #530 (isolation #50) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:51 pm

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In post 528, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 526, Wisdom wrote:who else is scum, sakura?
I have literally no idea, my mind went blank when my highest scumread flipped town.
Only thing im sure of is that Nancy's town.
You're probably town too because of your MariaR push.
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Post Post #536 (isolation #51) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:58 pm

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I actually have a theory (and this is why I unvoted MariaR)
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Post Post #544 (isolation #52) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:48 pm

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Keep in mind they also kill millers, which isn’t the normal functionality either :o
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Post Post #552 (isolation #53) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:36 pm

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In post 546, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 544, Gamma Emerald wrote:Keep in mind they also kill millers, which isn’t the normal functionality either :o
So town desperadoes can normally kill millers?

So then a scum desperado could conceivably kill gfs in this kind of setup?

But they have been obviously wouldn’t and based on this, a town desperado should be able to kill a gf - if there actually was one in this game.
I meant in THIS SETUP they kill millers
I thought that was clear when I said IT WASNT THE NORMAL THING
GOD I HATE HAVING TO EXPLAIN MY THOUGHT PROCESS 5 TIMES OVER
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Post Post #554 (isolation #54) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:38 pm

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In post 550, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 536, Gamma Emerald wrote:I actually have a theory (and this is why I unvoted MariaR)
What is it?

I also have one and it may explain why I’m still in the game.

It’s really weird to me that Drixx was killed but I’m still alive.

VOTE: Tripod
I think we have the same theory (doc protected you)
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Post Post #556 (isolation #55) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:39 pm

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In post 551, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 530, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 528, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 526, Wisdom wrote:who else is scum, sakura?
I have literally no idea, my mind went blank when my highest scumread flipped town.
Only thing im sure of is that Nancy's town.
You're probably town too because of your MariaR push.
What about Funnstral?
You know, am I the only one wondering why all of the millers are still alive?

Maybe I should revise this list. Gamma, Varsoon, Sakura=town.

Why does vig ever shoot Cakes? I didn’t understand hebi scumread either but Tripod and Marquis were the only ones on mine, hebi wagons. I don’t know if Maria is scum but Wisdom sr Maria reads town, OTOH, him sr Sakura reads scum. But this isn’t the first time Wisdom can’t see obvtown and I’m sure it won’t be the last.
Hey I copped Cakez so I think me and Dunn wanted to make the same move in different ways
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Post Post #559 (isolation #56) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:48 pm

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Could you restructure that last paragraph of thought Nacy? I can’t tell where one ends and another begins
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Post Post #577 (isolation #57) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:13 am

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In post 562, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 559, Gamma Emerald wrote:Could you restructure that last paragraph of thought Nacy? I can’t tell where one ends and another begins
“I really really dislike Wisdom Sakura push but he was off hebi wagon. I can definitely see why scum might see Cakes as a real threat in this game but not hebi.”

This one?
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Post Post #578 (isolation #58) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:15 am

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In post 568, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:UNVOTE:

Nos, what is your role? I think Kokichi was killed for his I’m 100% sure there’s scum amongst the millers, post.

Kokichi kill indicates one scum amongst the millers.

So far only Gamma and Dunn have claimed. That leaves Wisdom Nos. Wisdom, same question. I think if we assume that Kokichi was killed due to hid assertion of scum amongst the millers, then - figuring out which miller claim is fake will hopefully get us out of which game-throwing Nico is solely responsible for IMO. :mad:
Nah the shot was poorly timed but the reasoning was fair
To improve on play there, I’d say Nico should have stated she was shooting but not shot til later
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Post Post #601 (isolation #59) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:52 am

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In post 580, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 578, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 568, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:UNVOTE:

Nos, what is your role? I think Kokichi was killed for his I’m 100% sure there’s scum amongst the millers, post.

Kokichi kill indicates one scum amongst the millers.

So far only Gamma and Dunn have claimed. That leaves Wisdom Nos. Wisdom, same question. I think if we assume that Kokichi was killed due to hid assertion of scum amongst the millers, then - figuring out which miller claim is fake will hopefully get us out of which game-throwing Nico is solely responsible for IMO. :mad:
Nah the shot was poorly timed but the reasoning was fair
To improve on play there, I’d say Nico should have stated she was shooting but not shot til later
I think Nico was game throwing. She literally admitted she shot Drixx to suicide.
That’s not the full situation
She shot Drixx to either take out a dangerous scum, or confirm an effective town and leave a game she couldn’t manage to play
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@FG you have two instances of counting MariaR votes there
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Post Post #689 (isolation #61) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:39 pm

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In post 642, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 615, Varsoon wrote:
In post 610, MariaR wrote:Yes Varsoon because scum me wouldn't play D1 and my partners wouldn't make sure I'm here you got me
VOTE: Varsoon
If your defense is "Scum me WOULD NEVER make that play"
Then it's a good play to make as scum.
My read on you is pretty informed for a few reasons
but the biggest red flag for me is that you
Either lurked out Day 1 so you'd get NO attention and not be desperado shot because you're a powerful role for scum team (LIKE AN EXTRA KILL)
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You did not actually see the game was here until D2, and all of a sudden we have an extra kill on N2 that's unclaimed. Hmmmmm.
HMMMMM
DO I REALLY HAVE TO SPELL THIS ONE OUT FOR YOU?
Good pont and she couldn’t be linked to any D1 wagons.

I know Gamma has some reason for unvoting her but Maria could be scum here. What do you think of Wisdom hard pushing Sakura lynch?

What is your Marquis read? I really don’t know why anyone is convinced he’s town.

I’m also starting to think Tripod may be a mislynch.

So, my POE is Marquis/one of the unclaimed millers/Maria?
I voted Maria because her post reeked of scum agenda
When she gave a satisfactory explanation of why she posted that (plus I realized doc existing made sense and lent credence to her thinking) I unvoted
I may certainly vote there again, but honestly I don’t want to vote rn because there seems to be a flurry of vote movement and 3 short days would blow hardcore.
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Post Post #753 (isolation #62) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:56 am

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In post 691, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 685, Wisdom wrote:because newsflash scum try to play the game too

stop assuming scum isos will be full of nothing but scum actions

youre not a newbie anymore, youve played enough and you should not make these rookie questions
In post 686, Wisdom wrote:also you (once again) didnt read that properly. Ut did not try to stop him from voting kokichi.
He clearly tried to get him to change his vote. It’s currently a coinflip which one of you, Maria, Marquis, is giving me the bigger headache with WIFOM.
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In post 716, Marquis wrote:Forgot to mention I've been LA this wknd. Been half catching up but won't be reading more until tonight
Can someone find me a Marquis scumgame? I feel like Marquis’ play feels pretty consistent with TM2018 White Flag but I have no frame of reference for he other side of the equation
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In post 723, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:PP. edit. Drixx kill debunks your Godfather theory.
How? I want a fair amount of elaboration.
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In post 749, Dunnstral wrote:Our best play for today is to have a desperado shoot at someone who isn't a miller - this is better than lynching. So, anybody want to shoot Untrod Tripod for glory?
This feels like one of those moments where so many bad decisions have been made that this is a good decision
I don’t really know if it is, but I’m thinking so
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Post Post #757 (isolation #66) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:05 pm

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In post 752, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 750, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 745, Nosferatu wrote:sometimes i dont know if nancy cant understand or if shes actively trying not to
What don’t you think I understand and why wouldn’t I want to? :?

???
well for arguments sake ill bring up the fact that u think ur ic and actively ignore people's assertions to the contrary because it behooves u to cement ur town status regardless of alignment.
I like this thought process from Nos tbh
Nos can be Town
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Post Post #769 (isolation #67) » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:28 pm

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In post 767, Sakura Hana wrote:I have a bad feeling about this...
Why?
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Post Post #842 (isolation #68) » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:30 am

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In post 773, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 755, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 723, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:PP. edit. Drixx kill debunks your Godfather theory.
How? I want a fair amount of elaboration.
Because he was also the IC.

Do I have any freaking clue whether or not there’s actually a gf in this setup? Obviously not but if there even is on, It’s definitely not me, so yes, I am the goddamned motherdfucking IC and if this was LYLO, I wouldn’t have to waste my posts reiterating this. @Nos, or anyone in this game who hasn’t figured this out yet. :roll:
Yeah that’s not sufficient logic. Present an argument that doesn’t only work FYPOV.
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Post Post #843 (isolation #69) » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:37 am

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In post 787, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 785, Varsoon wrote:Like it seems wild that scum would just have two kills every night and town would have kills.
Seems very swingy.
It is definitely atypical for an FG setup but then so are 7 desperadoes. FG could not have forseen that town would kill 4 of them - either by vig (Dunn) or by desperado shootings.

Another interesting thing is that there are 3 mains in every single FG game and all 3 are still alive. Also, no minor characters have been revealed at SOD.

Now since Tripod seems to be MIA, even if he flips scum, it might not give us any info, because scum might be bussing under the circumstances.

If Tripod is scum, I would ideally like to have some idea on whom his partners could be.
The Main character mechanic has been announced clearly every game its been in. I don’t think it’s what we’re dealing with here.
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Post Post #905 (isolation #70) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:51 pm

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In post 862, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 861, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Sakura, what is your read on Maria?
My read on her went to "probably town" around the same time I voted Wisdom.
Reasons for both?
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Post Post #906 (isolation #71) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 12:54 pm

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Ugh I was pretty sure Marquis was Town
Guess we’ll see
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Post Post #911 (isolation #72) » Wed Oct 17, 2018 1:14 pm

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In post 909, Varsoon wrote:Marquis was the better shot by far. Even if he's town, dude hasn't contributed anything for weeks.
For a desperado shot? If it’s town the problem isn’t solved :igmeou:
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Post Post #958 (isolation #73) » Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:18 am

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Ok what the fuck
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Post Post #960 (isolation #74) » Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:22 am

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What the fuck happened with Nancy dying
Did rn hit doc?
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Post Post #1023 (isolation #75) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:07 pm

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DONT FUCKING HIPFIRE LIKE THAT TOU IDIOTS
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Post Post #1033 (isolation #76) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:20 pm

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Well I guess MS is just bad
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Post Post #1049 (isolation #77) » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:41 pm

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Double Roleblocker is just never smart
Roleblocker is already powerful in normal that lot of PRs need to exist to counter it
Doubling that = broken
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