Micro 829: The Coalition [Endgame]

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sup yall

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you town?

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ye!

HEAL: no lunch
HEAL: skitter30

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oh shit um

no lunch do you know me?

you don't have to answer that but I have a suspicion of who ur main is

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HEAL: Aubrey

also hi Chara!

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skitter hasnt accused me of being scum yet

HURT: skitter

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@aslightrain: if you had to pick three players that you think are never scum, who would they be and why?

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im not SRing the self vote but i got light scum pings from other stuff in AST's third post

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HEAL: gamma

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im not actually SRing skitter

thought she'd react to me instahealing her but i didnt rlly get anything so

thats null for now

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what are you liking about gamma?

the way he flipped suddenly on no lunch then flipped back looks like it comes from town, like it shows early townie engagement imo

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@nsg: is the final coalition allowed to have a member set to be lynched? for example, lets say we have a coalition, and in the event there's scum in the coalition, we'd like to see a certain member of the coalition immediately flip

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not sure if i worded that well, just got off work and need to nap now. basically i feel like there are scenarios in which the highest info D1 flip could be a member of the failed coalition

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i joined because i was interested in the setup and i adore nsg and i had some free time!

am going to a show tonight, probs wont be back until tomorrow because i need to nap and then will probs pass out when i get back

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HEAL: skitter
she seems unconcerned with the fact that shes not in the majority coalition atm and she entered with a self-heal which makes me think she's not concerned with looking eager to be on the coalition right off the bat

like that may seem contradictory but I feel like scum wouldn't want to enter with something that screams "hey pick me" like a self heal and i feel like in the game state we're in right now she would be trying to town tell more aggressively

(granted she could be scum with a widely townread player but eh)

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shit i keep accidentally sheeping nl

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scratch that nl sheeped me on gamma

i need sleep

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"sheeped"

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on skitter?

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hi havent read anything that happened today because i had a surprise midterm followed by a date

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busy couple of days != given up

hi A50! how different is your scum game from AP's?

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HURT: no lunch

wow all ur null and below are lynch bait

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or i just dont feel confident enough in my townread to have you in my coalition anymore

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have you ever read a scum game of mine

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and you painting me not being around to react to things as "failing reaction tests" is ???

go check my on site activity

go check the game i just finished modding and how my activity slowly dropped off

your read on me either comes from bad town or scum imo

my scum game is probs decent enough to get me on a coalition D1 if i wanted and i tend to post much more as scum earlier on even if my life is chaos

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I think I've been less lazy in my approach to skitter lately. The only game in which I've played against scum skitter was my first game with skitter and I kind of just lazily let her be and only pushed her like maybe once? I feel like her reaction to my small push here is more townie than her reaction in that one game.

I also have had some bad experiences with paranoia and don't want to get back into the mindset of not having someone as town because theyre a dangerous scum player

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and like it's D1

we have a 15% chance of getting a correct coalition randomly and even less than that because towns suck D1

im trying not to stress too much over my coalition as long as we have an appropriate amount of info to work with going forward

pedit: HEAL: no lunch
townie reaction?
i dont think your reads are bad necessarily i just dont like me/gamma/a50 being so low
but i feel like scum wouldnt be hurt that they were accused of bad reads

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I don't think it would be difficult for scum-skitter to fake. I also don't think I should be too concerned about skitter D1 when there's a 7/9 chance her townie reaction is a townie reaction and not a faked townie reaction.

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i mean

two dimensional logic sounds a lot like my towngame

the towntell that I'll state publicly (because I hinted at this earlier) is town skitter tends to be paranoid of easy townreads in her from my experience

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and i just came out of a game where i made a horrible mistake due to paranoia over a strong player's scum game

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given that skitter misread me in sneks for having an "easy" townread on her immediately after that neighborhood game, im not sjrprised she didnt seem concerned about me townreading her here tho

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schedule for today est
until 2 i have to prep for an hour long presentation im giving
from 3 to 530 im freeish but may start on a paper
i have class at 530 then afterwards am immediately rushing to a show that ends at like 11
so ill be back at 3ish and at 11ish?

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reaction test, hurt her as a reaction test as well

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no lunch do you enjoy town more than scum? do you think you'd be this present in a scum game of yours?

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you dont have to answer the question btw if it outs your offsite identity

but im townreading you for your level of engagement here as well

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Apologies, I am very slow today.

me too

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not a reason i want to state publicly

ill go and look at skitter's iso at some point later today and get back to you, i havent really been *actively* reading, just lurky reading

i feel like MME could very easily be scum here after playing a game w him on my scumteam

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hey A50 who should i take out to heal you

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HURT: no lunch
HEAL: A50

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hey no lunch who should i take out of my coalition to heal you?

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i don't think you've done much ai + i don't think think i can read you super well after sneks

this reaction was fine, not really note-worthy but what i'd expect to hear from town (and tbh scum) skitter

HEAL: skitter

she seems unconcerned with the fact that shes not in the majority coalition atm

and she entered with a self-heal which makes me think she's not concerned with looking eager to be on the coalition right off the bat

like that may seem contradictory but I feel like scum wouldn't want to enter with something that screams "hey pick me" like a self heal and i feel like in the game state we're in right now she would be trying to town tell more aggressively

(granted she could be scum with a widely townread player but eh)

i like to imagine that if i were scum here i'd be very very cognizant that looking like i'd want to be in the coalition would be a scumtell so i'd do my best to be as nonchalent about that as possible; idk if that's a good reason to townread me tbh

i do think i would instead be trying to towntell pretty hard

this came after my second heal and I distinctly remember her telling me this exact thing before with her as town in sneks (i could be wrong)? scum-skitter would let me get away with an easy townread on her but town-her is poking and prodding at me even just slightly for what she sees as a bad read

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how does her reacting to my townread get invalidated by the reaction coming after my townread??

and yeah it probs factored in to some extant

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would you think less of me if it was a randome heal?

im more comfy with it as of right now but ye

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my honest answer would be I had no confidence in most of my reads up until maybe this morning

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HEAL: chara

i wanna wagon some coalitions and see if we can make anyone squirm

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a50 any chance i can talk you into gamma

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if not i can switch to irrel i guess but eh

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um how do we lynch and get a coalition majority if they both happen simultaneously?

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gotcha its been a long day

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gamestate wise theres almost certainly scum in the coalition consensus unless scum are really dropping the ball here

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i mean if i had a red pm id probs be in contention for the coalition right now

as of right now id rather not be on the coalition because im very mislynchable and there's a large large chance of a failed coalition with or without me on it so its not super important

id be down to hammer your coalition as is but it feels kind of... eh.. to go with the 5 consensus townreads on the coalition when the majority of games I've played had scum in the consensus for town on D1

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while i think the current coalition has at least one scum on it i do think itd be a relatively high info coalition? idk

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@a50: if i was in a scenario where i was scum here with a partner that wasnt townread id probs try to scumcase a specefic person to get them forced out of the coalition

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ye sure

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HURT: gamma

is my vote the hammer then? intent i suppose

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hm do i need intent even

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my biggest concern is this probably fails but eh

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a50 are you sayin i should quickhammer this?

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HEAL: irrel

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so whats this plan of yours, a50?

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i think the amount of people pushing against chara being townread early on makes me think chara is more likely town than not

a50 is town af

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scumteam was actually mme and me, we decided to concede because we were in an unrecoverable spot

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reaction testing

aubrey and chara were p quick to respond and i liked their responses

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im so sorry chara <3

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VOTE: irrel

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irrel, if this coalition fails, who is scum on it?

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im drunk btw i just cant remember ur reads well atm

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thats like practically an alt slip

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well im being stupid i know many many people who make dad jokes

but hypothetically if u were an alt and i figured out who u were would u want me to /out?

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im just hungover

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ayy lmao

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well i feel like an ass for arguing for town-gamma now

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no only im the ass :p

i mean, i think i said something about thinking mme was scum if that counts for anything

go figure that the one time i pull off a successful reaction test its pointless

i dont remember most of the posts i made where no lunch was grilling me - i came into this game excited about how much free time i had now and suddenly got slammed with more stuff for my senior recital and like a lot of my posts here were me walking home phone posting or me in class or just waking up

i think i need to take a break until after my recital is over

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granted i keep saying i need to take a break and never follow through so

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a50/no lunch/aubrey/chara were obvtown to me

skitter seemed to be town but i was feigning some confidence there for further reactions

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what could i have done better here

um besides being well rested

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i agree that the pressure was beneficial and like the sort of questions you were asking led me to townread you further

you were also putting a ton of effort into a solve in a way that didnt seem scum-agenda driven?

also hi tw <3