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VOTE: Lady Angel
guiltier than a guilty lion? that's a lie, lynch all liars
hey Lane, good to see ya back!"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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hello hello! sorry I haven't had time to sink my teeth into this game yet, I skimmed through it yesterday but gonna do a reread and bring some thoughts shortly"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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this feels like scum-mindset shade for the sake of shadeIn post 45, FA_Q2 wrote:Basically the same Q goes to thor though - why vote there when there is a decent case (at least for this early) that he is the mime? It feels like you just want to jump on any wagon at all....
Thor made it clear he's down to wagon multiple people, there's a bunch of potential town reasons/explanations for this, yet you toss out this vague & indirect accusation as if that's supposed to be intrinsically scummy"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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techno is dope as hell but let's not forget house musicIn post 90, Sesq wrote:the only good music is techno, which does not feature lyrics.
also there's a crazy world of good indie stuff out there rn, like literally yesterday boygenius dropped three tracks and I am ~here~ for the sadgirl voltron
alright back to the game"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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wait also when and why did the lane vote become realIn post 90, Sesq wrote:not changing my vote because its real this time"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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okay so I think A50, Thor, DT, probably Eragon, maybe lane all town
yes yes I am townreading all the active posters, blahblahblah
VOTE: FA_Q2
this dude is scum
also I don't really care about the Mime thing unless we lynch one, generally I feel like trying to distinguish between Mime/Mafia play is gonna be a barrel of WIFOM and not worth it"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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this is the part I was keying in on:In post 113, FA_Q2 wrote:It is not shade for the sake of shade - it was an honest question.
Hence why I did not vote for thor when he answered. His logic makes sense though I don't really agree with it.
not the question itselfIn post 45, FA_Q2 wrote:It feels like you just want to jump on any wagon at all....
disagree - I liked their scumread on you, their 93, and also the WIFOM self-defense in 83 feels to me like a town thought process, scum are usually afraid to jump straight into circular reasoning like thatIn post 114, FA_Q2 wrote:If anything, DT has been the least town so far."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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Fink I don't think 117 is wrong per se but can you tell me why you're riffing on this and why you think it's a productive argument to be having"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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yes Lane - why is he scum?In post 119, Thor665 wrote:
Lane?In post 112, GuiltyLion wrote:okay so I think A50, Thor, DT, probably Eragon, maybe lane all town"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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eh, I guess your interpretation is fair but I just got the sense reading his posts that he was genuinely confused by what you had said and was trying to figure it out. I don't think he was intentionally misrepping especially given how he backed off like you saidIn post 132, Thor665 wrote:It's not a pretty progression of thought. It reads like he found something he thinks he could paint as "wrong" and attacked it rather than finding something he thinks is scummy.
Now, yes, he may just be sloppy town, I am debating that - but to have him as town anything at this stage boggles my mind."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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<3In post 141, innocentvillager wrote:
wow i like lion this gameIn post 112, GuiltyLion wrote:also I don't really care about the Mime thing unless we lynch one, generally I feel like trying to distinguish between Mime/Mafia play is gonna be a barrel of WIFOM and not worth it"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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no, was just trying to get your reply to gauge what your read on Almost was and if you thought anything about the discussion was alignment indicative. felt like it could be something scum would argue about to give them something to do without actually making reads out of itIn post 150, Fink wrote:Do you think I'm clogging up the thread about this? Do you want my opinion on something else in particular?"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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which posts?In post 174, Eragon wrote:I haven’t seen town!A50 at all, and a lot of his posts are wolfy AF."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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the DT and Almost wagons are bad
VOTE: Sesq
I can sheep on this, they haven't made any serious votes or pushes"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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I've done more than you this gameIn post 228, FA_Q2 wrote:I epect a lot more from GL and all his posts have been short and not much content from a poster that I would expect a lot more in depth responses. All
and what happened to the end of your post here?"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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Which games are you comparing it to?In post 236, FA_Q2 wrote:Your posting here is different than I have seen elsewhere."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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if you can't comment on it then you don't have a valid point at allIn post 238, FA_Q2 wrote:
I cant comment on that.In post 237, GuiltyLion wrote:
Which games are you comparing it to?In post 236, FA_Q2 wrote:Your posting here is different than I have seen elsewhere.
and like you should absolutely know better purely from a logical reasoning perspective than to make this comparison
not sure how else I can make this point but yeah there it is"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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this is a common thing that scum say when they're making up a new read btw - the reason is because you're not actually trying to sort people or read the gameIn post 240, Sesq wrote:every guiltylion post is a fluffpost andi don't know why i didnt see it earlier."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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and for another reply to FA_Q2, if you think scum!me is incapable of faking nuanced thoughts or far more content, I can provide many counter examples from completed games
I'm not efforting in this game yet because there hasn't been a lot of noteworthy content and because I haven't felt I've really needed to"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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you didn't give any reasoning at all other than "every post is a fluffpost", which likeIn post 252, Sesq wrote:speaking of "being aggressive", i've already stated my case and nobody has really responded to it or taken it seriously. GL completely dodged all of my reasoning, maybe the post in reference to no effort was an attempt to address it but it's REALLY weak. so yeah, vote him. i dont have much more to say but you (all of you except gl of course) have some voting to do
a) I disagree with (obviously) and
b) I did indirectly address in my conversation with FA_Q2
what else in your case did you want me to respond to? there's no substance there"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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I'm still townreading the DT slot for these reasonsIn post 126, GuiltyLion wrote:disagree - I liked their scumread on you, their 93, and also the WIFOM self-defense in 83 feels to me like a town thought process, scum are usually afraid to jump straight into circular reasoning like that
and I agree with A50 that Mime!DT would never request replace out there, which makes overall probability of town!DT increase
can the three voters restate the case on him because I really don't think he's done anything scummy and I'd like a fresh take on why he's the best place for your vote
I do feel a little yucky sharing a wagon with FA_Q2"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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yeah it's feeling more and more like Sesq is more likely a mime with scum!FA_Q2 voting it
honestly I'm still fine with lynching the slot, if it's a Mime flip that's not the end of the world"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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I just don't think those posts were all that "please lynch me", like it's literally just RVS song lyric posting. this feels like a reach and you haven't done anything beyond this voteIn post 281, Fink wrote:but those first silly posts seem like a bit of a "please lynch me" Jester thing, and I think that's more likely to come from Mafia than Town or Mime."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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They're both not showing me any evidence of being townIn post 344, Thor665 wrote:Maybe I'm misunderstanding you here; how do Sesq's Mime status and FA_Q2's scum status connect in your mind?
Sesq is aggressively playing scummy whereas FA_Q2 looks a lot more like he's trying to avoid the spotlight while sheeping onto the convenient wagon
It's not a connection between the two necessarily, it's just how I feel about assessing their slots and a possible explanation for the gamestate"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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agh I don't have time to post today but I know the deadline is tomorrow in ~24 hours, I will be around and posting all tomorrow"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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a50 is very likely town though I can't believe this is a wagon
will review in depth tomorrow"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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I think you have at least one maf on this wagon - I will state again that I'm pretty sure FA_Q2 is scum hereIn post 530, Kmd4390 wrote:lane0168 - 7 - Fink, Jingle, Thor665, Eragon, Almost50, FA_Q2, lane0168
VOTE: FA_Q2
Mime is either gonna be in the early adopters (Fink/Jingle/Thor) or probably avoiding the wagon
I think hypo claiming is a bad idea - just gives away who is not the watcher - and if the watcher has any results then they should just out them now. I'm against no lynch as well, seems like that's giving way too much power of this game to scum"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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this feels like vig-fishing and empty shade - do you think Thor is lane's mime partner, yes or no?In post 536, RockyHorror wrote:I'm not upset about the night kills as well, but I also was surprised to see Thor live through the night with how hard he was pushing lane over anyone else."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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actually I may need to think through this but I'm open to itIn post 551, Eragon wrote:i have a brain fruit idea.
We have the vigi claim, and then town has a leader to follow.
Mime could try to RB the vigi, but the watcher would be on the vigi to stop the mime from blocking, and if the mime DID block then we have confirmed mime.
Same as with Mafia, they can kill the vig at the cost of 1 of their members, or let a confirmed TPR run free
vig claim can't reasonably be CC'd and mislynched because vigs can just shoot each other, vig is conftown and hard to deal with for scum
seems fine on first pass"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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right, which is why
pings hardIn post 536, RockyHorror wrote:I'm not upset about the night kills as well, but I also was surprised to see Thor live through the night with how hard he was pushing lane over anyone else."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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but if Vig just openly claims I don't think that's bad for town
it's just vig being deduced with no guaranteed watcher protect that's worst case scenario"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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vig fishing - it's basically saying "vig should have shot Thor, why wasn't Thor shot"
anyone who responds to that in any way gives some insight as to whether they would have shot Thor or not if they were vig"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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Jingle no one elected you town leader
vig being deduced with no guaranteed watch protect is pretty clearly worst case scenario, objectively. vig claiming with watcher protect is far better. so you can disagree with the utility of a vig claim but nothing I said is wrong at all"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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the mime is now literally always a legitimate threat in this game specifically because you all lynched lane - we're absolutely not just no lynching until endgame. I want the hands of town's win chances in consensus and information driven by votes/wagons, not one town killing power. and you're completely ignoring advantage of a vig claim w/ watcher protect is a conftown. and 50% of instant loss is also 50% of instant win if we lynch the other mafia first"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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actually
I went back and reread Jingle's posts (skimmed those the first time as I had no time when he replaced in and then I figured I might die last night so I never started really rereading until now)
and now I'm starting to think he's right, the set-up is dumb and no-lynch is actually the best play here"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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@Eragon because I'm historically a threat to scum and my low activity play means I'd be a low information kill to the town with decent chance of being PR"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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uh, if I were scum you'd realize I'd have no need at all to post the fact that I thought I might die? like you're right I wasn't trying too hard to solve the game at that point but you're not actually pointing to anything scum-indicative here. also I am thinking about Thor being a more likely mime candidate, I don't see how that makes any sense in the context of your postIn post 608, Fink wrote:Aside from the thing from yesterday, the fact that he thinks he'd be an NK target seems like a standard assumption that's easy to have as mafia. I think if he were as good as people seem to imply and he'd been trying to solve the game, he'd be thinking about things like A50 potentially being Vig and Thor being a more likely Mime candidate."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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see this is yet another scumpost from FA_Q2In post 613, FA_Q2 wrote:He wants to lynch me but with little in the way of why (that read goes back to me not jumping on a wagon on page 1 - something that is pretty standard for me and is clearly lazy) and ignores the mime and entertains the idea that lynching on the wagon would be a good idea - a wagon he is on.
- you haven't asked/engaged/thought about why I'm scumreading you at all, you just assume it's only what I've posted in thread. for the record I am scumreading you not at all for "not jumping on a wagon", but for early empty shade/fake scumhunting at both Thor and DT early game, a total lack of engagement with any of the more relevant threads of conversation, the laziest of all lazy sheeps onto the lane wagon at EOD, and your generally hostile/stiff tone. you also haven't expressed any townreads at all this game
- I was not on the lane wagon, so the second point makes no sense whatsoever"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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wait unless all of this is about Thor and the thought about me is just sandwiched in there awkwardly?In post 613, FA_Q2 wrote:I think thor's actions yesterday make him a prime candidate for the other mime. GL is still pinging me hard as well. He wants to lynch me but with little in the way of why (that read goes back to me not jumping on a wagon on page 1 - something that is pretty standard for me and is clearly lazy) and ignores the mime and entertains the idea that lynching on the wagon would be a good idea - a wagon he is on.
that actually makes a lot more sense"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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i'm thinking mime and both mafia are in that bottom tier but not particularly confident on a mime vs mafia read for any of them yet"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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I'm not saying that scum would never say that. That's a misrepIn post 644, Fink wrote:GL responds that he has no reason to say that as scum, which is just the most weak-ass response ever. And scum would never say they thought they'd be the NK? Really? Does anyone think that's a good response?
I'm saying you're pointing at me being lazy, which is in fact me being lazy, and then calling it scum. When it's not scum, it's simply lazy. You've done none of the legwork to show why me being lazy = me being scum.
When I'm scum I'm way more careful and pay attention to the thread. I don't just post whatever's on my mind like the thought that I would be NK'd. self-meta but there you go."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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of course I was scumreading you for things I have not stated in thread? why is that a surprise? I don't post everything I'm thinking about, I just post what I think needs to be posted. And I don't really care what your "reaction" to my vote/scumread on you is, I'll only post so much as is necessary to convince other people that you're scum. The thing that I'm "complaining" about (nice smear job, btw) is that youIn post 662, FA_Q2 wrote: 'you haven't asked/engaged/thought about why I'm scumreading you at all'
^ wtf is this bs. Now you were scum reading me for things that you have not stated in thread? I have to ask if you had a case what possible reason can you have for not posting it then complaining that I did not react to your non-existent case?assumedI had no extra reasons to be scumreading you, likely because your goal is to make me look bad rather than figure out whether I'm town and whether I have reasons for the reads that I have.
is being overly defensive supposed to be scum-indicative now too?In post 662, FA_Q2 wrote:And yes, the post was worded rather poorly - those were my reasons for thinking that Thor was scummy. I did not need to state any more on you - I already posted it. I think your defense here is really bad as well - though worded poorly I have no idea how you would take those statements to be about you - the fact that you did makes me think you are being overly defensive.
here's a question - if I'm overly defensive, then I don't want to be lynched, then I'm probably not a mime, fair? So any thoughts on who would be my mafia partner?"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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*dual-ISOing Fink and FA_Q2*
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also FA_Q2 still has yet to share a singular townread, hmm"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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Also in case I die this is a super scummy postIn post 728, Aristophanes wrote:
To what end? If this is the game strat it doesnt matter if we check in or not lolIn post 727, Fink wrote:We should seriously make sure everyone has time to post at least once before NLing
it's like Ari isn't thinking at all from town perspective of having watcher info"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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still waiting on the no lynch
Ari is only scumreading low activity posters, "explanation" for Rocky scumread is just a dodge"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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like why is the case on Rocky dependent on him returning to the thread?In post 754, Aristophanes wrote:I can go through and make a case if he ever appears again though."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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alright so I was honestly kinda trying to bait an NK with my play these past few days but that didn't work and now the PRs are out sooooo get ready for some hardcore GL engagement with this game now lads
I think Arist is the mime and Fink is the mafia partner. Aristo's last post seems like he doesn't actually want to scumread me because he's afraid of a mafia lynch that could end his game. Fink's push on me throughout this game has always been garbage and if you look through his ISO he's always asking Thor safe generic questions without ever pushing on him or having a genuine sorting-style interaction, starting with his first post:
continuing here:In post 35, Fink wrote:Also, hi Thor. Any particular reason for sesq over the others?
here, he tries to subtly push the idea that Thor is a mime rather than mafia:In post 214, Fink wrote:To people who have played with Almost50 before, especially Thor,
Are posts like this, particularly the tone of them pretty standard coming from him? Or is this more confrontational than you'd expect?In post 118, Almost50 wrote:@Fink: Mimes aim to get LYNCHED. If they could accomplish that on D1 they don't need to worry about the Vig. "Act scummy --> Get lynched" is what a noob Mime would think. I do not expect a NOOB to go about the consequences beyond that point. Planning for multiple moves hardly makes someone a NOOB.
Mafia do NOT want to get lynched. A noob Mafioso would NOT try to act scummy in the first place. If they do (in order to avoid being lynched) then they are NOT a noob either. NOOB NOOB NOOB. A Newbie who has not yet developed the sense to plan ahead for multiple steps and will only go for the next move is what I'm talking about.
more random questioning that doesn't go anywhere:In post 608, Fink wrote:Aside from the thing from yesterday, the fact that he thinks he'd be an NK target seems like a standard assumption that's easy to have as mafia. I think if he were as good as people seem to imply and he'd been trying to solve the game, he'd be thinking about things like A50 potentially being Vig and.Thor being a more likely Mime candidateIn post 693, Fink wrote:By the way, Thor,
Why is this Rocky laziness scummier than GL laziness? I think you're saying that it's manipulative and so more of a scum mindset, right? But why is GL not pinging you as manipulative?In post 659, Thor665 wrote:I didn't really want to say till he had a chance to respond to me calling it laughable - that he doubled down on it reads as scummy to me.
Basically his case is 'Thor is scum more than other people voting Lane because Thor tried to get me onto Lane"
Which is all well and good as a theory case - except, as I pointed out in my defense, i also tried to get him onto DT.
He then counters it by quoting me doing *exactly what I said I did* but then handwaves it by pointing out that in debating him I used Lane as my example as opposed to DT as my example which...somehow means really I was clever Lane Mime partner, mwah-haha...?
It's really bad and shows blindness/not actually caring.
I think he's probably some value of scum for that play.
Like you put GL on the level of IV and Eragon and I don't get it."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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my main problem is IV is a total wildcard... I remember generally vaguely townreading his early game but nothing that is impossible to fake, I'd like to know where his head is at now"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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also Eragon why the hard townread on Aristo? I definitely don't think he's town"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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one other thing to consider is that if Thor did the kill, that would suggest that he's in worse town standing than his partner, as he's the one they'd rather risk getting caught. Could maybe point to Jingle, but I don't wanna consider Jingle unless he makes it to LYLO tbh. I know I've been pushing Fink but I wanna reread and see whether he was being scumread by many others"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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yah those Thor posts you quoted actually make me think probability of Jingle being mafia ++, but the thing is his play is in that zone for me where like you're fairly paranoid but then 70% of the time it's still town and then you lynch them and then feel like an idiot when they flip town."I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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also some decent points about Aristo/Thor - Aristo has gotta be the mime IMO"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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Thor out of curiosity who do you think is the mime?"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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yah honestly you definitely should have pushed it for a bit without claiming to see how people react to a push on mafia
but too late now no sense in worrying about it
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In post 796, Thor665 wrote:literally Eragon is the only player I'm going to interact with today until I'm dead"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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but if the mime is blocking the mafia then you're only going to catch the mime and not the mafia, right? I'm assuming a roleblocked mafia won't show up as visiting another player
setup seems pretty silly lmao"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"- GuiltyLion
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