Open 739: Epic Duel [Game Over]

[Creature]

Since you didn't see it, Nicolas Cage is pretty different there compared to this game.

[Creature]

I'm now not even sure if you're biasing somewhere (which would explain you not wanting to townread me because you don't want to have to review your townreads) or if you really need to keep your mislynch options open because you or your partner might be endangered.

[PenguinPower]

Since you didn't see it, Nicolas Cage is pretty different there compared to this game.

Really? How?

He came after me baselessly as he did here.

[PenguinPower]

Ugh. Creature activity is similar though.

[PenguinPower]

Yeah...I’m fine with LE and Garmr.

[BuJaber]

I just think the only vengekill scum can perform in the game is probably not something they picked haphazardly. It's making me doubt any suspicions I had about the slot

this point feels like it's going somewhere but... where

Just that LE doesn't make sense

[Garmr]

Yeah...I’m fine with LE and Garmr.

So once LE flips town who do you think my partner would be if I was scum.

[PenguinPower]

So once LE flips town who do you think my partner would be if I was scum.

I would probably re-evaluate my scum read on you at that point.

[PenguinPower]

Scum is in {Light Ethos, Garmr, Irrelephant11}

gramr,

FAQ

, (BuJaber/

Penguin

/

Sho

)
My bets on scum team.
Either way I'm voting gramr today or dueling him tomorrow if he avoids the noose.

Never votes Garmr though...votes Bujaber.

I'd be willing to forgo killing gramr immediatly since I'm 99% certain Gramr v Ejj is TvS and Ejj sounded pretty scummy during that last page.

Doesn't vote Ejj (elephant) though...votes Bujaber.

In fact. If Bujaber flips scum today I'm instadueling Ejj so we can end this game sooner.
If he flisp town, I dunno. But I can guarantee is BuJaber flips scum so will Ejj.

Makes me think that Bujaber is town and Ejj (elephant) scum because this is a way to secure a town lynch and allow a pass on Ejj lynch.

So maybe it's Garmr and Elephant. Either way, Garmr is the constant.

VOTE: Garmr

[Garmr]

Scum is in {Light Ethos, Garmr, Irrelephant11}

gramr,

FAQ

, (BuJaber/

Penguin

/

Sho

)
My bets on scum team.
Either way I'm voting gramr today or dueling him tomorrow if he avoids the noose.

Never votes Garmr though...votes Bujaber.

I'd be willing to forgo killing gramr immediatly since I'm 99% certain Gramr v Ejj is TvS and Ejj sounded pretty scummy during that last page.

Doesn't vote Ejj (elephant) though...votes Bujaber.

In fact. If Bujaber flips scum today I'm instadueling Ejj so we can end this game sooner.
If he flisp town, I dunno. But I can guarantee is BuJaber flips scum so will Ejj.

Makes me think that Bujaber is town and Ejj (elephant) scum because this is a way to secure a town lynch and allow a pass on Ejj lynch.

So maybe it's Garmr and Elephant. Either way, Garmr is the constant.

VOTE: Garmr

So once LE flips town who do you think my partner would be if I was scum.

I would probably re-evaluate my scum read on you at that point.

Yeah this is scum PP realising they need to lynch me today otherwise they can't lynch me tomorrow. It should be obvious to anyone who is actually town that a scum team of me,irrelephant,IO is impossible. Since I was pushing Irrelephants aka eji slots lynch early on in the voting phase and the slot hated my guts.

[Garmr]

Also that seems like a real Omgus reaction to me scum reading them.

[PenguinPower]

Since I was pushing Irrelephants aka eji slots lynch early on in the voting phase and the slot hated my guts.

You "pushed hard" by naked voting them at the start of the voting phase without strongly advocating for their lynch, and then switched off to a hard town read when elephant replaced in. Convenient.

You then hopped on the Io wagon once it was a definitive lynch. There is nothing in this game that precludes you from being scum with either of them.

Also that seems like a real Omgus reaction to me scum reading them.

Because you went from town reading me to scum reading me for bad reasons. It opened me up to the possibility that you were scum with no hard reads - hence why I went back to look at Io and Elephant.

[Creature]

Yawn

How much should I trust RC?

[Creature]

rn I'm thinking of only trusting Irre and PP.

Then I have two shots to find scum at {BuJ, Garmr, LE}

[BuJaber]

I had doubts about Nicolas early on, but I like him more in 331 and 334

That's Io's first mention of Nick. The "doubts" were never explained. Then just has him as a townread the whole game until her last post:

I'm going to say Nicolas, Shoshin, and Walt are town since I can't see any clear connections from them to any other player indicating they be scum. Plus Nicolas is pretty townie.

I'm unsure about the rest of the players though.

I think the scum team is Ejj, Penguin, and Bujaber though.
.

I think this grouping indicates ejji - nick are her buddies. Both of them she doesn't really talk to directly (except the one debate early game with ejji about duels which is pretty safe). And singling out Nick like that from her 3 townreads.

That plus the shoshin kill which I feel implicates ele given his entrance..

I really think we need to lynch ele or creature

[Garmr]

I had doubts about Nicolas early on, but I like him more in 331 and 334

That's Io's first mention of Nick. The "doubts" were never explained. Then just has him as a townread the whole game until her last post:

I'm going to say Nicolas, Shoshin, and Walt are town since I can't see any clear connections from them to any other player indicating they be scum. Plus Nicolas is pretty townie.

I'm unsure about the rest of the players though.

I think the scum team is Ejj, Penguin, and Bujaber though.
.

I think this grouping indicates ejji - nick are her buddies. Both of them she doesn't really talk to directly (except the one debate early game with ejji about duels which is pretty safe). And singling out Nick like that from her 3 townreads.

That plus the shoshin kill which I feel implicates ele given his entrance..

I really think we need to lynch ele or creature

Want to vote creature with me because I feel like ele is more likely to be town.

[BuJaber]

1 among her scumreads and 1 amomg her townreads

Though she did have an undeclared null list.. let me see who was alive at the time. Garmr and who

Pedit - with the shoshin kill I'm favoring ele and PP seems unwilling to vote for creature here

[Garmr]

1 among her scumreads and 1 amomg her townreads

Though she did have an undeclared null list.. let me see who was alive at the time. Garmr and who

Pedit - with the shoshin kill I'm favoring ele and

PP seems unwilling to vote for creature here

Because PP is scum.

[BuJaber]

Yeah so that last post of Io was after the duel ended. So only garmr in the null pile.. I doubt she'd do that deliberately with a buddy

[BuJaber]

Oh FAQ also she left out

[PenguinPower]

Pedit - with the shoshin kill I'm favoring ele and PP seems unwilling to vote for creature here

If we lynch Creature, and he flips town, does that change any of your reads or will you still want Elephant?

[PenguinPower]

Yeah so that last post of Io was after the duel ended. So only garmr in the null pile.. I doubt she'd do that deliberately with a buddy

Garmr wasn't in the null pile as of her last post. He was a town read over Elephant.

[BuJaber]

Pedit - with the shoshin kill I'm favoring ele and PP seems unwilling to vote for creature here

If we lynch Creature, and he flips town, does that change any of your reads or will you still want Elephant?

I'd reevaluate you and garmr I think. I'm not sure if he flips town which of you/garmr's actions is TMI-indicative the townread or the vote. Because I don't think you two are ever partners, and both of you seem pretty obvtown to me and I don't like to assume I'm wrong on a strong read until I see evidence I'm looking at the game in the wrong way.

[Irrelephant11]

this is dumb
why wasn't faq2 scum

also can it just be creature and le because that requires the least re-evaluating fmpov

[Garmr]

this is dumb
why wasn't faq2 scum

also can it just be creature and le because that requires the least re-evaluating fmpov

Want to vote creature then becuase me and bujab seem to agree on the slot.