how good is vonflare at laser tag [game over]

[Chickadee]

VOTE: maruchan

Because I’m looking at her right now

[Chickadee]

I only picked names of vests I played in

[Chickadee]

Only at the bottom of page 5 so far. Catching up.

I have town, so far:
RC
PP
Gamma
Jiffy
Maru

[Chickadee]

The part thats bullshit is the implication that me not being 100% sure you are scum on page 4 is somehow alignment indicative. I didn't even move my vote when I suggested lynching you.

i made it as far as page 5 before i give up.

8 pages in less than 12 hours and i'm living out of a suitcase in a hotel room


and RC is here

and at least 3 people who are "YOU NEVER LYNCH RC DAY ONE NOMATTERWHAT GRRRR" modeing which is horrible.

and this is also a large so like


what did I do to myself.

This is what you get when you sign up for accidental meme games




@everyone, RC is absolutely not the lynch today. If you don't like RC as a leader, then lets get something else going, but I will absolutely not be down for an RC D1 lynch.

@RC, we're not lynching Jiffy, friend <3

[Chickadee]

Why not? Because you're his buddy?

Sure


But really, I don't get scum jiffy vibes here. I'll admit I haven't played with jiffy that much, but I feel pretty confident that this is vastly different from the scum game I've played with him. I know thats not much, but with how different it is, I'm not scum reading him at this point.

[Chickadee]

Why not? Because you're his buddy?

Sure


But really, I don't get scum jiffy vibes here. I'll admit I haven't played with jiffy that much, but I feel pretty confident that this is vastly different from the scum game I've played with him. I know thats not much, but with how different it is, I'm not scum reading him at this point.

I don't really think you'd fight me on this as town and I hope I'm wrong.

Are you calling me scum? Like, I've had a fairly exhausting day, so maybe I'm wrong, but you think I'm scum because I'm fighting the jiffy angle? Even if Jiffy is scum, there are 4 other people you could lynch today to win.

Also, why hasn't jiffy considered that, like, I might be scum trying to powerwagon him?

But that's kinda LHF

I get where you're going, but that is a stupid argument and you know it.

[Chickadee]

Can you just let me be bad town and have the jiffy angle?

[Chickadee]

I caught your speech. But what if I told you I'm actually not bad town? I'm only bad town from your perspective. I just don't see a reason at the moment to scum read Jiffy, and thus would not like to lynch there.

Pedit: ok, you can vote me. That's fine. You're wrong, but you're entitled to your opinion. I still love you rc

[Chickadee]

In case you missed my speech earlier, this is a setup that has no room for bad town.
Scum in this setup thrive on bad town because you need to get a massive amount of town to vote scum and scum are heavily discouraged from bussing.
Same reason 6p lovers in practise is very scumsided because it's rare that there's a town that doesn't have that one player that's rly bad and loses the game for town.

That can't be you here if you're town, Deedles.

251 was in response to this, and then my train of thought got interrupted like a million times

Sorry if it doesn't make sense

[Chickadee]

i gave u a very good set of reasons to lynch jiffy
u just, like, completely ignored them and were like 'yo i have this meta townread on, like, all the posts ever'

also what's up with that 'only bad town from your perspective'

You think I'm bad town. You've said as much before your scum read on me started. But like, you can't say for certain. I could be scum, I could be good town. You don't know.

Also fuck all with your wanting to lynch Jiffy. You just said it was a fake tunnel. lol

[Chickadee]

UNVOTE:

Forgot my vote was still there actually. Oops

[Chickadee]

Well, according to RC, I must not be competent.

I’m ok with that.

[Chickadee]

What if powerlynching Chickadee is my destiny as king

That is a sad destiny. Mostly for me.

Chickadee plays enough mafia and

is generally competent enough to not make those posts as town

but she says ridiculous things as scum all the time.

But, I am town, and therefor your assessment of me being competent is false. Because I did make those posts as town.

I've been slightly trolly with your posts, and you keep taking them at face value. I think your scum read on me is shit, and I haven't really been taking it seriously.

[Chickadee]

@penguinPower Why did you ask about being in irrelephant11 town list and not mine?

[Chickadee]

Only at the bottom of page 5 so far. Catching up.

I have town, so far:
RC
PP
Gamma
Jiffy
Maru

This list didn't change when I finished my catch up. Anyone not listed here are in varying degrees of not-town piles. I haven't really sat down to look at things beyond my town reads very much.

I do not dislike the alchemist wagon though.

[Chickadee]

Maru is going through a lot right now being temporarily displaced so :\

It's a fucking paid vacation for Maru

We spent yesterday gallivanting around Memphis eating bbq and playing board games.

[Chickadee]

Well now that I think about it chick I'd like all those explained see if you match up with me on town reads (at least reason wise)

I just got home. There's 7 new pages.

[Chickadee]

RC, the weekend is not best for me. I'll have some time tonight to look at the game.

But lynching me won't end it, so if you really do think I'm scum, do me a favor and try to work out the other 4.

[Chickadee]

Dunn and Maria interactions.....hmmmm

[Chickadee]

and try to work out the other 4.

If you are still around, can you elaborate on what you meant here.

I was being a bit trolly. I was meaning I'm not scum, so look elsewhere. I guess I just didn't word it very great.


But I do like your way of thinking about pairings making sense or not.

[Chickadee]

I think the 'other 4' language used by you and jiffy is extremely scummy in this game. Asking people to compromise is how we end up lynching town. No in is going to be 5 for 5 on day 1 (at least not with any consistency).

Fair.

I've seen people call entire scum teams, and have done so myself on D1 though. It's not impossible. With 5 scum though, I find it hard to believe people don't have lynch pools. I see tunnels, but no pools. Admittedly I haven't read a good chunk of this game, because a lot happened when I couldn't get to it. So please correct me if I'm wrong.

[Chickadee]

So why is chamber town? @anyone townreading him

Puts the burden on the wrong foot I think. Why am I not town?

You've talked a lot about not town hunting, and saying everyone is scum to some degree. Now you're asking someone to town read you.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: Chamber

[Chickadee]

Why am I not town?

This reads to me like you're asking someone to find town tells. So I'm pretty sure it is what it looks like.

[Chickadee]

Asking why someone is town is asking for town tells.
Asking why someone is not town is asking for scum tells.
Are you gaslighting me or illiterate?

True, but it comes off as more of a challenge. "Try and prove I'm not town" implies you think we should be town reading you.

[Chickadee]

Chaaarrraaaa c:

[Chickadee]

omg Alisae! Hello! Welcome!

UNVOTE:
no one else seems to have a problem with Chamber, despite him being seemingly intentionally hard to read.

[Chickadee]

omg Alisae! Hello! Welcome!

UNVOTE:
no one else seems to have a problem with Chamber, despite him being seemingly intentionally hard to read.

What do you mean intentionally hard to read?

Not answering questions, admittedly obfuscating their trajectory, using wording that can be taken two ways, and then back tracking when it's taken a certain way.

[Chickadee]

Chick, talk to me about players who aren't chamber? why did you like the Alch wagon, what do you think about Gamma and Majiffy?

I'm making dinner at the moment, but my thoughts on jiffy haven't changed.

I have no real thoughts about the Alch wagon. I know there was/is one, but it's probably in the pages I didn't read.

[Chickadee]

I'm here. I'm caught up. I don't really have much to add at this point. I feel like we just need to consolidate on a lynch.

I'm willing to lynch chamber, maru, idk who else.

[Chickadee]

Ok

VOTE: Gamma

[Chickadee]

This list didn't change when I finished my catch up. Anyone not listed here are in varying degrees of not-town piles. I haven't really sat down to look at things beyond my town reads very much.

I do not dislike the alchemist wagon though.

i'm talking about this, not about pages you didn't read. :>

Ah. That post is from a version of me that was much more with-it.

I'll go back and look though.

[Chickadee]

This list didn't change when I finished my catch up. Anyone not listed here are in varying degrees of not-town piles. I haven't really sat down to look at things beyond my town reads very much.

I do not dislike the alchemist wagon though.

i'm talking about this, not about pages you didn't read. :>

Ah. That post is from a version of me that was much more with-it.

I'll go back and look though.

So two of my town reads at the time were on the alch wagon: RC and gamma. And I had no reason at the time to be scum reading irrelephant11. So it looked like a town, or at least not scum driven wagon.

To be clear, Gamma now is largely null for me. I can see motivation for both alignments in their posts, so I don't know where to sort them. I'm sheeping jiffy on my current vote for gamma.

[Chickadee]

I have to prodge for now. I'm caught up through the spoiled post, as a bookmark for myself. Today was busy.Tomorrow will be busy. Sorry.

Spoiler:

votecount 1.18

3 players voting for Chickadee (chamber, PenguinPower, Irrelephant11)
3 players voting for Alchemist21 (Invisibility, vonflare, Gamma Emerald)
3 players voting for Gamma Emerald (Majiffy, Titus, Chickadee)
2 players voting for Majiffy (MariaR, Chara)
1 player voting for Alisae (Alchemist21)
1 player voting for MariaR (Alisae)

2 players not voting (Dunnstral, Maruchan)

with 15 players alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch.

the current day will end in (expired on 2018-10-04 14:30:00)

mod notes:

[Chickadee]

am i the only OG laser tagger still in this game

EXCUSE YOU????

[Chickadee]

But it is already Monday here.

[Chickadee]

Nope it's Sunday. Oh god I need sleep.

[Chickadee]

Why the hell is everyone dropping out

My thoughts exactly.


I think we need to just push through a lynch to get things going. At this point, I don't even care about the "omg we could have D1 win"

We just need something to happen

[Chickadee]

I say we hear from replacements, then we take a course of action

@replacements: please summarize your lynch pool at the end of your catch up.

[Chickadee]

Oh so now y’all wanna complain about the deadline and not when I brought it up on like the first day?

Well ok Titus has an excuse. But anyone else just smh.

Listen.




That was so long ago. I was a different person then.

[Chickadee]

Gamma
Alchemist
(I think one of them is scum, but maybe not both? Would lynch either honestly)
Dunn I suppose
Chamber, but no one else seems to be there

[Chickadee]

It doesn't matter but my vest name is Ace.

[Chickadee]

I would have expected you to take Zen

Zen was in my picks. I was disappointed not to get it.

[Chickadee]

Welcome Cobblerfone. We're at the point where we just need something to happen. Myself or Gamma are the leading wagons at the moment. Do you have any thoughts before we push something through?

[Chickadee]

Just letting y’all know I’m here and vaguely following along. A scummer is in town visiting. You won’t really get anything from me until Monday, maybe Tuesday.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: Chickadee

For the VCAs.

Can you explain? I tried looking through her iso and couldn't quite find what you're talking about. Though I admit from that I did get the idea that she could possibly be scum that doesn't quite know where to push and so basically settles for anything.

Scum would know exactly where to push though...

[Chickadee]

I'm curious what made you lean scum. I've had irrelephant11 as town for a while now.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: Alchemist

I want that sweet sweet sketchy 3rd vote spot.

[Chickadee]

Gamma
Alchemist
(I think one of them is scum, but maybe not both? Would lynch either honestly)
Dunn I suppose
Chamber, but no one else seems to be there

@chikadee: what made you say dunn here?

I didn't feel like Dunn was really game solving to the extent I usually see from him.

[Chickadee]

Also if you're going to sandbag at least vote alchemist don't give bad reads on me

I've lurked as town multiple times before too, that advancing the gamestate line is so bad

I

am

voting Alchemist.

[Chickadee]

Ii townread Majiffy more, and sheeped him on it.

[Chickadee]

@titus, can you just try to sort me, without the flip?

[Chickadee]

My heart is cold and black. I love no one.

[Chickadee]

You can do it. But something needs to happen. We need action. Let's flip something.

[Chickadee]

It's not though. Why are you so hung up on my slot Titus?

[Chickadee]

sorry guys, I'm working a 9 hour shift today and am gonna feel pretty dead when I get home. I'll try to be around a bit tonight

[Chickadee]

I think it's time for day to end

I agree

[Chickadee]

I like the resistance against the Alch wagon more.

[Chickadee]

More Alch votes

[Chickadee]

I thought Titus was coming back with thoughts on me

[Chickadee]

Can we just push something through already? Can the people supposed to be playing, just do something? If you're not on one of the major wagons right now, can you please move to one?

[Chickadee]

i Hadn’t looked at the vote count before my post. I though the alch wagon was bigger than it is. Weird.

Cobbler, can you explain your vote? Specifically why you think starting basically a new wagon is good at this point? I’m not against a new wagon, I just want some reason.

[Chickadee]

I'm not sold on Dunn, but if that's where the group wants to go, I would. Dunn isn't really putting up a defense. I don't see the survivalist instinct I usually see from scum. I also think Dunn and Maria being so tunneled on each other is possibly TvT. I said earlier I don't have a town read on Dunn, but I'm starting to also not have a scum read.

I'm still really interested n the fact we've tried to have an Alch wagon a few times, and it never gets off the ground.

[Chickadee]

Maria, instead, will you help lynch Titus?

VOTE: titus

[Chickadee]

Jiffy join me <3

[Chickadee]

Hey Majiffy I just noticed you live in Buffalo! We're only like 1.5 hours from each other
Nice

More interested in a titus lynch. I still want it.

[Chickadee]

I don't understand how Titus is meant to flip scum? This is a lovers game. Does it look like mafia are really concerned about Titus being lynched, like at all?

VOTE: Dunnstral if we can get this back let's do it.

tbf, it kind of feels like you're concerned about a titus lynch.

[Chickadee]

Jiffy come back and do the thing.

[Chickadee]

Imma need you to explain that Dunn

[Chickadee]

She.....she literally DID stop being scum though.....

[Chickadee]

I’ve been without internet a few days and just connecting via phone, so my activity is likely to be spotty until that’s resolved. But I’d like to look back over the Jiffy spot. Could be scum??

[Chickadee]

Chapter 17

⁸ The awful teenagers left to go do something else, and no one was sure where they went. ⁹ The players resolved to decide on a new way to play, because they had paid for unlimited games, ¹⁰ which meant that they could do pretty much anything if it sounded fun. ¹¹

I wonder if the people who run this place know how to artificially level us up,

Chickadee said, ¹² and everyone else pretended to know what that sequence of words meant. ¹³

It looks like they don't know how to do that,

she said after a bit of time had passed.

Does anyone have any specific game types they want to play?

I'm a bit of a stickler Meeseeks, but I knew where they went

They went for pizza

I knew where they went too!

[Chickadee]

I pushed for the Titus Lynch because I was ready or day to End. And someone had a compelling point. I can't remember who. Might have been irrelephant? I'll look.

[Chickadee]

I stand by what I said yesterday. Dunn felt far too resigned to his fate to be scum.


Also sorry, it's been busy for me. It will continue to be busy for me.

[Chickadee]

Yes, you'll be ridiculed.

[Chickadee]

Titus dead. That's what's up.


Sorry I'm being trolly. I've lost a lot of interest here.

[Chickadee]

How many people did you ISO?


How do you feel about Jiffy accepting my town read of him so easily D1?

[Chickadee]

Why not? Because you're his buddy?

Sure


But really, I don't get scum jiffy vibes here. I'll admit I haven't played with jiffy that much, but I feel pretty confident that this is vastly different from the scum game I've played with him. I know thats not much, but with how different it is, I'm not scum reading him at this point.

when did your opinion on him change from this?

I'm trying to reevaluate things. And looking back, I'm thinking maybe RC had something. Jiffy never questioned why I town read him. He just went along with it, saying he was happy to be pocketed.

[Chickadee]

Because I was content. Now the game seems like a loss so I'm just flipping over everything.

Instead of questioning my intentions, wanna talk about to me about the jiffy slot?

[Chickadee]

Ok, if you insist.

[Chickadee]

hi, sorry for disappearing. I'm willing to place trust in Irrelephant. I want to trust Chara but not sure that's smart? unsure who else to PoE out to be totally honest.

@chickadee; are you saying you're suspecting Majiffy because you were townreading him and wanted to flip your reads?

Yea. I wanted someone to talk to me about it. But instead people are just questioning my intentions. I'm finding it hard to engage in the ways I want to.



And if y'all just want people to do things, then ok

VOTE: Invisibility

[Chickadee]

I don't have a reason to town read invisibility

[Chickadee]

This game is slow as molasses

[Chickadee]

More votes. I don't even care if they're on the current wagons. Just vote.

[Chickadee]

extended indefinitely

[Chickadee]

No to everything?

[Chickadee]

Congratulations on coming to no new revelations on the game. I think you just put together the names of the most heavily scum read people, and ran with it. Minus Irrelephant11. He's been pretty widely town read, I think?

[Chickadee]

VOTE: Majiffy

[Chickadee]

Ok, then do something about it.

[Chickadee]

VOTE: Majiffy

U wonna fukkin go

Fite me.

[Chickadee]

Post 63 in the mafia thread

That was...an interesting conversation in the scum PT

[Chickadee]

Vonflare is an average tag player. I'd pick him for a team any day.

[Chickadee]

you can't distill nearly ninety pages of discussion and debate about how good vonflare is at laser tag to two short sentences like that, Chickadee. it's a much more nuanced question than that.

Already did.

[Chickadee]

Vonflare was pretty good I think he was consistently 4th or 5th most games

Out of how many?

When we played against the teens there were 13 people. When we did not, there were 6 people.