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Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:02 am

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VOTE: kimiko
This is a pretty obvious one here. Who claims cop then asks to get charged? Scum'd shoot that and down the wine with pleasure, even if it ws a bluff

Now that nm is gone (still dislike porkens, buts it's far too late to do any more PLs), I'm pretty sure the last scum is FL.

Meta reasons I cant fully explain now, but when I meta dived, it was a pretty big apparent


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Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:37 am

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In post 1475, theslimer3 wrote:Now that nm is gone (still dislike porkens, buts it's far too late to do any more PLs), I'm pretty sure the last scum is FL.
last? aren't there 3 scum, we haven't found any of them?

ehhh Gamma I could see town!slimer here I guess but I don't want to be swayed this easily and I def agree there is too much claimed/outed town power in the form of investigatives to the point where someone in Slimer/Kokichi is lying

the thing that makes me a bit hesitant on Kokichi is it is true that Porkens claimed RB'd n1 and he so far is the only person to claim RB'd n2. though with a little bit more scrutiny I guess if there is a mafia one-shot roleblocker who used it N1, then he could safely fake claim it N2 knowing no one else could counterclaim roleblocked as well.
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Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:39 am

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generally yeah town!slimer and scum!kokichi makes way more sense than scum!slimer and town!kokichi, but two trackers existing just feels really strange. i guess in the setup it might make sense because charging could be another visiting action in addition to role related ones
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Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:44 am

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eh but at the same time NM's D2 ISO really does seem like a guilty on Slimer
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Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:50 am

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In post 1468, theslimer3 wrote:I tracked Vax night 1. However, instead of being told what happened regarding you, I was just told that you haven't charged anyone
also this seems like a fake claim too, especially given the flipped tracker role PM

like it's possible Maf know that Vax didn't use charge N1, but aren't sure whether he
visited
anyone or not, so this claimed result is a safer lie than a full blown tracker result.

though if Vax can come in here and CC in any way, that'd be tite
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Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 10:59 am

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So I’ve been bussing Kokichi this entire game?

Also, pushing onto the “last scum” part, accidental Freudian slip?

I’m thinking Slimer forgot DS was Tracker, and was going to go and make some play on Kokichi.

Kokichi claimed roleblocked, and Porkens said he was roleblocked night 1.

I don’t think they’re related, though.
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Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:01 am

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I’m finishing up the Smash ultimate direct then I’ll be here
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Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:16 am

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In post 1481, Flavor Leaf wrote:I’m finishing up the Smash ultimate direct then I’ll be here
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Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:32 am

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In post 1476, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 1475, theslimer3 wrote:Now that nm is gone (still dislike porkens, buts it's far too late to do any more PLs), I'm pretty sure the last scum is FL.
last? aren't there 3 scum, we haven't found any of them?

ehhh Gamma I could see town!slimer here I guess but I don't want to be swayed this easily and I def agree there is too much claimed/outed town power in the form of investigatives to the point where someone in Slimer/Kokichi is lying

the thing that makes me a bit hesitant on Kokichi is it is true that Porkens claimed RB'd n1 and he so far is the only person to claim RB'd n2. though with a little bit more scrutiny I guess if there is a mafia one-shot roleblocker who used it N1, then he could safely fake claim it N2 knowing no one else could counterclaim roleblocked as well.
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Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 11:34 am

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You know what, just to appease the sceptics, I'll just ask the mod. I already asked him in PM. He said that its possible for there to be two roles with the same slot.

@MOD: Is it possible for there to be two players with the same role?
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Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 12:04 pm

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I'm not questioning the whole two trackers thing so much as the fact that two town trackers with identical role PMs would exist in a game where everyone seems to have a different PR.
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Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:16 pm

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VC 3.2
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theslimer3 (1):


Not Voting (7): Vaxkiller, Lady Angel, Flavor Leaf, Porkens, ManateeDude, Kokichi Oma, theslimer3

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

The deadline is 13 November 10am UTC-4, or in (expired on 2018-11-13 10:00:00)

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Happy Scumday theslimer3!!!
BNL will be V/LA until ~Nov 6/18

In post 1475, theslimer3 wrote:VOTE: kimiko
I do not recognize this player, thus the vote is invalid.
In post 1484, theslimer3 wrote:
@MOD: Is it possible for there to be two players with the same role?
It is indeed possible.

There was previously an error with the vote count (GuiltyLion's vote on theslimer3 wasn't registered), it has been fixed but is italicized for clarity
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Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:08 pm

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In post 1484, theslimer3 wrote:You know what, just to appease the sceptics, I'll just ask the mod. I already asked him in PM. He said that its possible for there to be two roles with the same slot.

@MOD: Is it possible for there to be two players with the same role?
Why did you need to ask if your role pm would have proved it to you?

This is an actual slip.

VOTE: Slimer

You said “you already asked him in pm” meaning that wasn’t to appease the skeptics, but to project a specific wording and use the mod’s wording to your advantage.

Of course it’s “possible”. And had Aristo said ANYTHING else, it would have incriminated you. Mods can’t do that.
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Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:08 pm

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In post 1485, Lady Angel wrote:I'm not questioning the whole two trackers thing so much as the fact that two town trackers with identical role PMs would exist in a game where everyone seems to have a different PR.
This is the towniest thing you’ve posted all game.
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Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:10 pm

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It’s Slimer/Manatee and then one of Kokichi/Vax.
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Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:13 pm

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I guess Gamma could potentially be pocketing me, I have a tendency to get pocketed by players who know me, but if he was scum, I feel his Porkens push would have had at least a little more to it, including others voting there.

I don’t think Lady makes sense as a Slimer partner given Lady’s pull off of NM around the time of my replace in.
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Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:16 pm

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I also don’t see both Lady and Slimer pushing Kokichi and myself as the scum team. I feel that was getting brought up by Slimer to appease Lady. I’m gonna do some ISO diving.
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Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:31 pm

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In post 1479, GuiltyLion wrote:
In post 1468, theslimer3 wrote:I tracked Vax night 1. However, instead of being told what happened regarding you, I was just told that you haven't charged anyone
also this seems like a fake claim too, especially given the flipped tracker role PM

like it's possible Maf know that Vax didn't use charge N1, but aren't sure whether he
visited
anyone or not, so this claimed result is a safer lie than a full blown tracker result.

though if Vax can come in here and CC in any way, that'd be tite
I read a bunch a few times to make sense of it. Here is waht I got. (THought process here... drunken... bear with me)

I was thinking slim3r town today. I liked his thoughts on the multiple ppl having tracker... why? Well Im a a tracker too! I was thinking it's jsut too much of a risk.

I read 1438 multiple times. Maybe its too much info. Does scum have that much info? Maybe hes just good at town. Reading it at thsi very moment I dont like it. It reads: Guys I have this role 2 and here is my explanation of why it is ok that I have it.

I never really thought that way about my ability. I have my ability, someone we lynched had it. and even when slimer claimed tracker I thought "well its a common ability in this game"

I still kinda think that way. He may have a track, may have tracked me.

But I tracked RC last night and got a result back that they didnt go to anyone last night (reworded) not that the didnt charge anyone. And I find that odd. Odd enough that I went back and looked at thier posts and changed some of my thoughts (shown above)
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Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:32 pm

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VOTE: slimer
Vaxkiller is not anti-vaccine, he is a killer of Vax machines.

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Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:39 pm

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VC 2.17
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(6): theslimer3, Lady Angel, Kokichi Oma, Porkens, ManateeDude, Vaxkiller
(LYNCH)

Kokichi Oma (3): GuiltyLion, Flavor Leaf,
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theslimer3 (1):
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Porkens (1): Gamma Emerald

Not Voting (0): :)


RC dying, and Kokichi being on the NM wagon doesn’t put some heat on Kokichi for the third scum slot.

@GL - you pushed Lady/Slimer as your top two scum reads, and I guess I don’t really have any reasons for why they couldn’t be besides what i said earlier. I don’t know. I’m just not leaning Lady as much as I was yesterday.

Manatee hasn’t really done much, but chose to come and vote NM near the end.

RC’s comment towards Gamma at the end of the day, and Gamma actually being scum is the only way I see this NM wagon from not having all three scum on it. If Gamma is scum, Kokichi is 100% scum with him.

GL has been lined up with me for too long afterwards our interaction yesterday, and him backing off after rereading makes me town read there.

I’m leaning towards Slimer/Kokichi/Manatee.
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Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 3:46 pm

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In post 1495, Flavor Leaf wrote:Wait, another tracker?!
Hmm...I’m thinking Vaxkiller might have actually been rolecopped or something then.

Was anyone else roleblocked last night? I have a theory on something.
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Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:01 pm

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Oh. Also. Double Dare was a Nickelodeon show where the contestants got Green Slime poured on them.

:facepalm:

It was that simple. So I felt it was already obvious that Slimer was Double Dare, now it’s more obvious. :lol:

Also, Psychologist optimal play is to use actions early, and NM might be a troll, but he’s not dumb. If he had an inno, he’d have crumbed it somewhere with his shtick, and there was nothing of the sort.

He just came into the day pushing “Double Dare” aka Slimer.

That’s a hard guilty on Slimer.
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Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:04 pm

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In post 845, RadiantCowbells wrote:Who do you scumread that isnt LA
In post 846, theslimer3 wrote:Cant we just lynch NM then worry about that stuff day 3?
In post 847, Kokichi Oma wrote:theslimer are you 100% confident he will flip scum?
In post 848, theslimer3 wrote:I'm 100% confident that he'll lose us the game

Slimer noticed he was Double Dare real early on it seems, and he went after NM, even trying to have RC and GL stop their discussion about LA and other scum reads.
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Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:10 pm

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In post 29, theslimer3 wrote:
In post 26, ManateeDude wrote:
In post 24, theslimer3 wrote:
In post 23, Porkens wrote:If someone claims dayvig and proves it ill charge them
Trying to thin the town out already? Tis only twilight, hold your horses
This shade is not a good look.

VOTE: theslimer3
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In post 51, theslimer3 wrote:
In post 44, ManateeDude wrote:VOTE: slimer

Idc if its a joke its a weird look too
What's a weird look?
In post 45, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 42, theslimer3 wrote:Can I call you kimiko?
You can call me whatever you like
You got it Kimiko
In post 53, theslimer3 wrote:
In post 52, ManateeDude wrote:
In post 51, theslimer3 wrote:
In post 44, ManateeDude wrote:VOTE: slimer

Idc if its a joke its a weird look too
What's a weird look?
The post where you called out Porkens
Hmm. Oki
In post 510, theslimer3 wrote:
In post 507, ManateeDude wrote:
In post 504, theslimer3 wrote:VOTE: Not mafia

Purely a pl, and I am still interested in NSG. But give me a better reason not to
this is pretty bad
Please explain why. You've been doing nothing but lurking and being useless too
In post 512, theslimer3 wrote:
In post 511, ManateeDude wrote:
In post 510, theslimer3 wrote:
In post 507, ManateeDude wrote:
In post 504, theslimer3 wrote:VOTE: Not mafia

Purely a pl, and I am still interested in NSG. But give me a better reason not to
this is pretty bad
Please explain why. You've been doing nothing but lurking and being useless too
PLs are terrible and generally terrible.
Scum is only going to keep him alive. The sooner he dies the better. If he turns out to be scum, hurray. If not, hes only going to continue to act this way
In post 678, theslimer3 wrote:
In post 674, ManateeDude wrote:In this state, I don't see DS and RC being scum, I feel if either was scum, they woild've backed off after the fight lasted so long.
Why do you think that?
These are all the posts that Slimer has talked about Manatee with. Each of these are in DIRECT response to one of Manatee’s posts.

The early game banter looks like scum theatre throwing fake shade at each other.

However, the biggest thing of note in these posts is when Manatee calls Slimer wanting to lynch NM bad, and then says PL is bad.

Manatee ended up on the NM wagon near the end of the day.
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