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O shit am I still in this

I stopped getting email notifications for PM's and inadvertently site flaked

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no longer replacing Flubbernugget.

I might not be able to get to this until Friday. If that is too long I probably still need to be replaced

Sorry all

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So I'm only up to page 4

2 things

1) i take the ss replace out meta seriously
2) saudade seems like an okay lynch

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YOU THOUGHT WRONG BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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@Flubbernugget: Sajj hasn't posted anywhere on the site since before this game started.

Fair.

I'm going to try a hybrid of skimming the thread and doing a "true" catch up and see how it pans out. This may involve redundant questions

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Is saudade a lynchbait counterwagon?

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Thanks alchie. I did remember he did a weird shift in calm to rage which felt fake.


VOTE: guerilla

As of page 6 guerillas rage is over a player not producing content. Seems pretty nai in that minimal context.

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The only thing interesting on pages 7 and 8 is saudade's self proclaimed and underwhelming entrance

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I think most of the scum reads in this game are people just nitpicking playstyle

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UNVOTE: DVa

Flubbernugget, when do you think you'll be caught up?

I am on page 11. I have also read the previous 4 pages. Based on what I've seen so far, Dva is probably a compromise lynch throughout a very opinionated town. I'm probably okay with this atm

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That being said, I am assuming the accusations against dva to be true without really seeing their posting myself

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I'm also familiar with pro hawk being more aggressive than what I have seen in this game so far

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Why do you need me caught up? I've been averaging 2-3 pages a day and dont intend to slam out 10 more by tomorrow

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Can someone just read Gambit's ISO please I feel like I'm going crazy. How are we not wagoning the guy who lied multiple times? Like I'm not OMGUSing him at all, dude straight up went afk for a day when he was caught lying and it's like no one here's noticed.

I have to find the game I played where I got massive towncred on a mislynch making posts like this

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This is interesting with two competing wagons though.

You should say more to this because they both look like lynchbait cws to me

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Flubber, you have said 3 people are lynch bait counter wagons.

1. Counter wagons to who exactly?

2. How can saudade, dva, guerilla all be lynchbait?

I expected saudade to be a counterwagon to scum based on the way he was playing. I dont think that actually happened. Perhaps there hasn't been a wagon on scum yet?

The other two are probably closer to opposing wagons than counterwagon

By your own admission town is playing poorly. Why do you consider three lynchbait players suspicious?

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Dva was too inactive to have a solid D1 read on and between gurellia's tunnel and arrogance I could see people wanting him out of the game for sanity's sake

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I've never once seen a tunnel coached before

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That's a very involved thing to have two hands in

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This is interesting with two competing wagons though.

You should say more to this because they both look like lynchbait cws to me

It'll be better to analyze after flips. But it's interesting because it provides a lot of information to work with from D1

This is a generic statement that could apply to literally any set of wagons in the thread and leaves me to believe your interest in the ones happening right now is feigned

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VOTE: prohawk

Flashwagon?

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Also I'm glazing over any post that has the word "lying" in it

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Early game lies are more often than not pedantry from the accuser or town being careless. Neither of those interest me, and I believe that is reasonable.

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VOTE: prohawk

Flashwagon?

Same could be said for you flubby

I'm not reading the while game as lynchbait, so not really

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Actually, it would be better for you to actually explain why you think I'm not making genuine analysis of the game

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I think I have better quality amidst the same quantity, though I really dont like these abstract counter accusations to begin with

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I think I am subconsciously town reading toranga bc word count but I dont see any scum posting either

Will have to iso them later

Hard skimming anything about whatever happened in some other game

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I still believe I am game solving harder than prohawk and invite those who disagree to better argue it than saying we are both inactive

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This is interesting with two competing wagons though.

You should say more to this because they both look like lynchbait cws to me

It'll be better to analyze after flips. But it's interesting because it provides a lot of information to work with from D1

Ok so this post just rubs me the wrong way. You wanna lynch people to examine their behavior after a flip?

PEdit- speak of the devil. Answer please

Hey man this was my shtick first

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I dont like the way you're bouncing between me an prohawk though

It really looks like you dont care who gets lynched

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P-EDIT: No, to make pre-flip associations will lead you down the wrong road most often that not. I want to examine wagons and trains after people alignments are known. I'm not sure where you came up with the assumption that I want to lynch people to examine their behavior after a flip? I don't think you understood what I meant there? IE: Flubbernugget is using the two wagons as two town-wagons to scum-hunt BEFORE he actually KNOWS that they are both town wagons, which will provide false results should one of the wagons actually be SCUM.

Wanting flips doesn't excuse you from your sparse scumhunting today. We can't use those flips to analyze *you* otherwise.

I'm not using the wagons to scum hunt. I town read them as two toxic players at each other's neck and then looked for scum elsewhere

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I had nothing to do with that wagon

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I had nothing to do with that wagon

Mind explaining yourself on this mr first-on-the-wagon?

Yeah, I meant hammer. I pretty obviously had a lot to do with the wagon.

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Doughboy is a bad nk unless he was tunneling scum

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I had nothing to do with that wagon

Mind explaining yourself on this mr first-on-the-wagon?

Yeah, I meant hammer. I pretty obviously had a lot to do with the wagon.

No you didn't lol

Explain to me what sense it makes as either alignment to overtly flashwagon someone and then say they didn't do it?

Especially when said "denial" is literally right under a post mentioning my name next to an "interesting" hammer?

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Was he? The majority of his iso was fighting with rage. Seems like the perfect player to push a mislynch on from a scum perspective

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I never tried to push for a doughboy lynch but now I get why he treated you the way he did

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Definitely irritated partially by this and by outside influences. If that's defensive so be it.

I know I skimmed a lot of the thread but I really cant imagine doughboy being anywhere past null-town for his play. Maybe people saw something I didn't. That being said Tommy is right that they probably went for a pr kill anyway

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Anyway, this idea that I coasted on the prohawk lynch is dumb because the majority of the wagon had low effort pushes on him

Toranga waffled between "maybe town" and "I'm voting bc toxicity btw that's a lolhammer OOPS"

Gemma's read never progressed past vague notions of "defensive"

Guerilla took issue with things I already called out and then said a ph lynch was for it's own sake

Wilky and Tommy both had a case of nothing more than "lurker"

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Oh, looks like you made a beetlejuice comment and asked for a reads list too

Fucking yawn

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So yes I lied

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You waffled on the lynch yesterday and now you're doing something similar where you're entertaining my lynch without a vote. Are you afraid of being on two mislynches or something?

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Claim doctor

Protected alchemist yesterday

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Well my dear pR who do you think we should lynch?

I dont know yet. I wanted a prohawk lynch because I figured the wagon would redirect the game from a lot of the spam. It really just gave us an entire set of apathy votes. Lesson learned is that skimming a thread full of stuff I don't think want to read really isnt going to solve my problems the way I wish it would (that's probably why I was so clueless on the doughboy nk too). That being said, I need to examine the more active players on the wagon. If they're generating good content and interacting with other players, they should have had more effective reads than "this guy is lurky and toxic."

That leaves me to need to iso toranga, guerilla, Tommy, and wilky

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Well also have two speedwagons on town in this game. Whoever was on both of them is suspect

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There is definitely scum in guerilla, Tommy, and wilky then

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I've had irl issues and will be back within 24 hours

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Yeah I'm not really interested in a gamma wagon.

Wilky 1177 is bad. Why hop on a flashwagon instead of trying to flashwagon your own scum read?

Also to toranga's point I have shrooped as scum before.

VOTE: wilky

1194 is bad. Guerilla is trying to lynch me based on some wifom thing. Very simple, dont get prs to lylo. There is no need to shade my slot rn other than scum fear of a pr.

Saudade seems to be doing a similar thing.

Tommy doesnt strike me as town. They ask a lot of questions but as a whole their play is incredibly forgettable. I'd entertain them as coasting scum if that wasn't expecting all three scum on my wagon.

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I would really like today to end in a lynch of one of the three on both the prohawk and flubber wagons

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Actually, Flubber, there's no need to shade your slot at all lol.

Okay.

You're the scummiest motherfucker in here.

...oh

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I've never seen such a blatant lack of self awareness, like, ever.

What is your read on wilky?

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That second one is fun because I pushed a cop in a few similar ways to how guerilla was pushing me

Massive has some mad pr skill, extra respect

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Yes. But the problem is, I claimed, and massive didnt.

So the ultimate question becomes, "Does guerilla make a push this brazenly bad as scum?"

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Mine? Null. Waiting to see if he's gonna stay in the game or get kicked.

Why is wilky getting kicked?

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I dont remember that part of the game.

The specifics dont really need to be investigated because they are examples of more general tells

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Yes. But the problem is, I claimed, and massive didnt.

So the ultimate question becomes, "Does guerilla make a push this brazenly bad as scum?"

Lol I'm not pushing you. I don't know whether you're scum or town. All I'm saying is, if you actually are a doctor, I hope you get killed because I don't wanna deal with you. Because you fucked up and I don't want you fucking up again.


Glad you're shading me apropos of nil, though. That's surely helping you look townie.

You were on the same mislynch as I was. If i really played that bad you wouldn't have done that. D1 mislynch is common so I have no clue why you are so high strung on this one.

Hey wilky, your teammate sucks at his job. This is what distancing

actually

looks like.

And yeah , you've been one of the most sanctimonious players with regard to everyone else's activity, so the fact that you cant read wilky after he replaced in and produced a bunch of content shows you're fake as fuck right now. You've pretty much damned yourself and wilky as scumbuddies.

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I need to look for a 3rd scum now. Hmmm

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I only have wilky and guerilla for scum rn.

I know the game is small, but even if there's only two scum I dont want to be wrong and have nowhere else to look.

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@flubber assuming you are town would scum partners be on both mislynch wagons?

Yes

What do you think of guerilla struggling to formulate a read on you?

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Can you remind me why you think guerilla is town?

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Guys

Do things

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I did join you

I should probably revisit the cases on gamma being scum

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I guess more specifically, why is that tone strong enough that you don't seem to have much concern over me finding their motivations to be dubious?

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but sure, why are you concerned his motivations are dubious? I'm all ears

He was on the mislynch wagon and the one that brought me to claim (I started from my claim immediately building a pool from within there that I wanted lynches in).

He is having a lot of trouble formulating a read on wilky, who has enough content that there is no need to be fence sitting on their alignment

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So I'm going to do better than skimming like I did last time but ftr gamma basically does gut reads from d1 to endgame, and in this particular game he has done more than that in a few places

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I hope to be caught up by the end of today

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Hey Tommy
Recall how you kept pushing me to expand on my Flubber townread? The read was pretty much sparked by my result. That’s why I called it gut: I didn’t want to get backed into a corner where I’d have to claim just to explain a townread generated by my result.

Why in the absolute fuck of all that is unfuckingholy did you let me get to L-1

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Wait no sorry you didn't vote for me.

You shaded my slot a lot early this day phase though

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Um

This is follow the cop right now

That's a smelly setup on MS

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Fair

I'm having a bad game *sigh*

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Wingnut is a fun word

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W I N G N U T

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The fact that you're trying to lynch a pr claim for starters

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Guerrilla couldn't form a read on wilky

That should have been an auto lynch on them as soon as wilky flipped.