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Post Post #7206 (isolation #0) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 5:34 pm

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Spoiler: LCK JAG vs SKT round 1
SKT's comms are a mess. Holy shit. Nobody should force you into sloppy fights 10k gold down.
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Post Post #7207 (isolation #1) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:11 pm

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In post 7205, SensFan wrote:Can someone give me (or point me to) a tl;dr of the major S7 changes? Haven't played since Worlds ended, and couldn't follow well when I tried to watch LCK this morning.
1. smite now gives a burst of HP+(amount per lvl) when used on neutrals

2. plants. Ghostcrawler really wanted some buyable plant in the game to replace wards but it was scrapped because it was stupid. Instead the idea was reworked to replace smite buffs

3. The assassin class was reworked. Katarina now has real dual scaling, and with the new Gunblade scales pretty hard. Other honorable mentions are Khazix (new Q is crazy with CDR), Rengar was given a CC-break in place of resists, his HP gain was nerfed to a gray health system like TK. His ult was sidegraded while his burst with Q combos was removed, but given AoE/waveclear in Q to compensate. Riot wants Assassins to move towards winning any 1v1 over time opposed to instantly deleting someone and trying to get away with it.

4. Armorpen was gutted, replaced by lethality. Lethality works similarly to arpen, but scales with opponent level. Making it pretty useless. You'll find archetypical assassins like Khazix or Rengar skipping it and going Black Cleaver for the mix of survivability, armor pen and cooldown reduction. It gives far more damage.

5. ADC meta is yet to settle. LCK is being conservative and playing S6 adcs, utility picks. I think with the substantial nerfs to Jhin's itemization it allows Kalista to re-enter the meta as she is primary a laning/midgame ad, not too unlike Jhin, and while her mechanism is riskier, she can start fights like he does. We need to wait until EULCS and possibly the debut of the NALCS to see what everyone wants to play.

6. Ziggs is being played bot lane. This is actually something symptomatic of late S6 and rise of tanks, but the real change that made it boil over was the new tank mastery in the resolve tree. Ziggs takes towers and only needs levels 6, 9 to be effective. Typical ad carries have little in the way of damage until 7-8k gold.

7. Jungle gives much more experience (though not as much as preseason). This is allowing for carries to be played over the jungle tank meta.

8. Malzahar is drawing bans because he is being played as a support in scrims. His rework made it so W is a consistent form of damage + gains pushing priority not unlike Karma and Zyra and has superior tower taking power. He was played in the first game of the season (ROX vs KT) and every support thought to be able to play it has had it banned against them since.

9. Teams are failing to bust tanks (40% winrate, and 1 of those wasn't a bust.) As it stands with the new mastery Maokai is the best top in the game. I see teams continuing towards a centralized tank top meta and with a Maokai ban I think Alistar will replace Singed in pick priority and Shen/Lissandra flank comps to appear.
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Post Post #7209 (isolation #2) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:27 pm

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i think she's the only solid roamer left with the fall of aurelion sol and taliyah. TF might come back, but i definitely see lissandra being played.
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Post Post #7211 (isolation #3) » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:29 pm

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some really uninspiring eu games this week. by that i mean i didn't bother watching them. i'd wager h2k vs uol was probably watchable. i think xerxe and exileh have a lot of potential to grow in general.

i feel vindicated after being wrong about taliyah after seeing Hai pick TF. i probably should have seen the resurgence of Corki, who was a great roamer before Aurelion Sol auto won lane against everyone.

we're seeing shen played but not necessarily played with flanking playmakers, instead he's more of a duelling enabler along with khazix. still have no idea why alistar isn't being played. i think his playmaking power is among the highest for tanks and he has a favorable matchup against shen and nautilus. i guess tank busting in scrims must be a real thing now, because we're seeing more top lane carry bans and less maokai ones. seeing nautilus into maokai makes more sense than alistar, because maokai shuts down alistar in lane and can stop his TP flanks instantly via point click root.

Spoiler: NALCS week 2
this meta is awful for clg. darshan has fallen behind other tops in relative playmaking ability and every top is on tanks even against their own will. stixxay can't carry the deadweight with utility picks while aphromoo forgot how to play league. zikz having no idea how to draft a bot lane matchup is pretty much guaranteeing every game should be an automatic loss

i feel better for instantly dying to a malzahar in the zyra matchup in the game i played with RC. see, even pros are bad like i am.

huhi is playing great. he and xmithie are probably the only redeeming part of this team.

IMT is a dumpster fire mechanically yet somehow managed to out macro C9 several times in game 2. however IMT are so bad individually that i have to believe that the LCS is scripted because nearly every single pick Sneaky made with an ECA was made on someone with an available flash. c9's holes in their macro game are making them look like a much worse team than they are. i agree with assessments saying that FQ is the best team in NA right now. stats don't matter when you have no idea how to close a game :roll:
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Post Post #7215 (isolation #4) » Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:05 pm

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C9 White vs C9 Blue today! Probably within the hour

clg just took baron vs p1 and twitch chat erupted with C9 spam
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Post Post #7216 (isolation #5) » Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:34 pm

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>Piglet is one of the best mids in NA

scripted

tomorrow:
TSM vs CLG, round robin match 2

sunday:

C9 White vs C9 Blue, round robin match 2.
SKT vs KT, round robin match 2, rematch of the bloodbath of thursday night.

thursday:
Origen vs Roccat. Who will be the worst team in any major region? Featuring xPeke in mid again. Naehyun to support.

anyone intending to go to the NA finals in april?
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Post Post #7532 (isolation #6) » Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:02 pm

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I joined the pick ems

My bold predictions:
Fnatic last in group.
Fenerbashe and G2 both dumpster RNG. G2 advance, maybe on a tiebreak.

C9 might beat EDG in a tiebreak... EDG is super shakey, but on the other hand on a good day they are the anti-SKT. I put EDG second. Rip c9
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Post Post #7705 (isolation #7) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:33 pm

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I imagine WE vs FW is chinese porn.
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Post Post #7772 (isolation #8) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:59 pm

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you think kkoma's belt has seen some shit, but kkoma's belt has never killed an entire continent before.
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Post Post #7774 (isolation #9) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:05 pm

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This isn't final form SKT. Peanut is stylistically a joke for SKT. They want passive lanes.

Peanut will still be played in groups: SKT wants to give no information over of how Blank will perform on meta junglers, or whether Blank has Ivern ready. Where he paths and the enemy being prepared for it is one of the biggest concerns when Blank plays. Blank will come out after game 1 in a series against LZ/SSG/RNG. Teams that require respect.
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Post Post #7777 (isolation #10) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:10 pm

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That is the team you would play if you wanted to shake them in the early game. SKT wants to prepare a roam or a TP to get a first tower, then out macro you. They're very good at it, but if you knock them out cold before they pull it out you're proving to yourself that you did it properly.

Sad thing is that I'm sure TSM did some lategame arms race shit in scrims with them to see if they could out teamfight the best. [though that flash from pray vs gam the other night was amazing]
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Post Post #7778 (isolation #11) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:11 pm

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In post 7776, Voidedmafia wrote:Westdoor has a kid?

Looks like we got a badass dad up in here

P-EDIT: Huh. Makes a bit more sense. Why no LZ or RNG, though...?
weldon korea nationalism / tsm vod leaking / taipeichingchong might have had something to do with it. lz would see tsm early in prep (top vs second), while skt was guaranteed to meet them earliest in semis, making prep from weeks before worth less.
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Post Post #7779 (isolation #12) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:17 pm

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C9 gets their pick here: focusing on Clearlove or Scout is pretty much the key to killing EDG. Mouse is a role player, and focusing ADC is pointless in this meta (targon brace if you're losing for the shield, get an earlier ardent censer...). That's partly why Hans Sama has had an easy time. Focusing a side lane without an advantageous objective trade (free herald or double tower) would be a sign to me that EDG gets an opportunity to knock out C9 in a teamfight, which iBoy is really good at.

0% winrate lucian hover from edg lul
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Post Post #7781 (isolation #13) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:31 pm

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C9 playing like an LPL team. EDG is fucked, despite the scoreline.
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Post Post #7783 (isolation #14) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:44 pm

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Let me meme goddamnit
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Post Post #7785 (isolation #15) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:57 pm

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C9 at least tried to do something with the dive bot.
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Post Post #7812 (isolation #16) » Sun Oct 15, 2017 2:36 pm

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My brain says RNG. The spleen says Fnatic.
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Post Post #7921 (isolation #17) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:08 pm

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prediction: skt will surprise pick ashe into caitlyn, if they also already have faker's galio.
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Post Post #7923 (isolation #18) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:16 pm

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Sure. However the meta has developed in a short time. Additionally, both MSF and RNG has pushed SKT to grow stronger, and play in the early game. Something like the miracle combo of Rakan+Galio like versus EDG, except with an Ashe on top I think is a great answer to Cait's early game, and trap hell. The ECA grants the extra time needed to collapse. Actually, I'd say the time it grants would allow Orianna over Galio, which may end up banned.
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Post Post #7925 (isolation #19) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:22 pm

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I think SKT lives or dies by their junglers here. 3-1 SSG.
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Post Post #7927 (isolation #20) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:57 pm

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Say lul one more time Phreak.
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Post Post #7928 (isolation #21) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:24 pm

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Post Post #7929 (isolation #22) » Fri Nov 03, 2017 11:01 pm

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Rest in shit final correct pickem

Bang is going to need a security detail on his swim home

faker is absolutely destroyed. head in hands crying.
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Post Post #7969 (isolation #23) » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:03 am

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it's hard to take esports seriously after the remilia-badawi story. a player's union would have avoided all of that, and i'm surprised she didn't kill herself, to be honest.
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Post Post #7985 (isolation #24) » Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:08 am

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I only watched the NA and KR finals.
Thought Repeared was questionable in fielding Sven and Jensen together. Meanwhile Griffin had great whackjob comps-Taliyah, Gnar, Velkoz, Gragas. Just a total shit ton of space for Velkoz to do his stuff. Loved it. Viper's 1v4 quadra in G1 was also entertaining.
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Post Post #7995 (isolation #25) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:02 pm

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GenG vs SKT
Fine with SKT dying this way. They at least showed that they had brains in Game 3.
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Post Post #7998 (isolation #26) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:55 am

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Don't bother watching the LPL finals. The technical problems killed the series.

Meanwhile, GRF vs GenG is one of the best series in recent memory. The crowd was shrieking with how back and forth it was.
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Post Post #8000 (isolation #27) » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:01 pm

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8k gold down

let's do something proactive!

fucking scripted NA LCS. i don't know why i bother watching the shit tier teams.
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Post Post #8002 (isolation #28) » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:45 pm

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NA Regional Finals
Happy that somebody that unapologetically keeps the name "[removed]" (grigne) not only doesn't make it to worlds, but is also was the sole reason they couldn't make it there. master race yo
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Post Post #8003 (isolation #29) » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:31 am

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The only part of play-ins that matters

https://i.imgur.com/n0B2FZS.mp4
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Post Post #8009 (isolation #30) » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:32 am

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pickems where dammit
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Post Post #8010 (isolation #31) » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:52 am

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Post Post #8013 (isolation #32) » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:02 pm

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my pickems rn

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Post Post #8017 (isolation #33) » Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:29 pm

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Games to watch tomorrow: Fnatic vs iG, C9 vs GenG

I'll eventually watch them all but I think these two are the big ones. iG is looking super strong and Rookie vs Caps is going to be hype. C9 is capable of some high highs, but I don't have faith in them making it out of groups. Still, they decide the fate of GenG tomorrow.

TL vs EDG is going to be put up or shut up, but I don't know how much I trust TL.

Something the analysts haven't brought up is how good Chinese junglers are. Chokelove and MLXD are warming the bench. The players trusted to start in groups have been Karsa, Ning, and Haro. Ning just had a kick ass Zac game against GRX, pulling off plays other pro players only dream of actually performing in a real game. Haro was looking like the best jungler in the world in the gauntlet. Every other jungler not named Score or Moojin have been ass.
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Post Post #8021 (isolation #34) » Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:15 pm

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LICORICE OVERRATED

IMPACT OUTDATED

LONG HAVE WE WAITED

SSUMDAY ACTIVATED
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Post Post #8022 (isolation #35) » Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:18 pm

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I'm not saying that KT and 100T are the best teams in the world, but

KT vs KT 2 finals

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Post Post #8025 (isolation #36) » Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:52 pm

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group B concludes tonight
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Post Post #8036 (isolation #37) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:22 pm

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Really unhappy with the casting this year.

1. Riv and Quickshot are awful. They have no idea how the game is played, hype up things that don't real, and go on unrelated tangents all the time. They only have a job because they're the "face" of their regions.

2. Phreak/Quickshot only know how to flame people. Deficio is guilty of this, but Deficio wasn't dropped on his head as an infant, so he has some redeeming qualities.

3. The promotions are overbearing. If somebody fumbles the "ACER Predator replay" somebody else will awkwardly remind everyone that it was, in fact, an ACER Predator replay. I doubt they're contractually obligated to say it every time, because they had missed it often during play-ins. It's like they get thrown bills every time they say it, which makes it all the more pathetic when they forget to say it and have to be corrected.

5. Yodaspeak. Sometimes it's intentional, and whoever talks like Yoda to look cool, immediately becomes my least favourite person ever. What is different at this worlds isn't simple deliberate Yodaspeak, but every game a caster is saying something like "they know they can't contest, C9 is".
Every game
. It's like there was an internal memo that informed the casters that the average viewer is pants on head stupid and needs everything explained. Never mind that you know which team they're referring to if, I don't know, the viewer decided to open their eyes? What's worse is that when they fumble and end up yodaspeaking they could easily just continue their train of thought. Example: "they know they can't contest, C9 has to find the right plan to proceed". Nope, just yoda this bitch.

4. Calling Group B the Group of Death because your favourite teams were expected to never get out is hilariously racist. That's not even the meaning of "group of death".

5. The best caster is on the analyst desk because he's an OGN employee and not a Riot one. Classy.

I think I'm done watching the english broadcast. There's nothing redeeming about it.
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Post Post #8038 (isolation #38) » Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:26 pm

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You won't be able to unhear the yodaspeak now
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Post Post #8049 (isolation #39) » Tue Oct 16, 2018 10:56 am

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NA LUL
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Post Post #8051 (isolation #40) » Tue Oct 16, 2018 11:00 am

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I think it's interesting that Xayah became a top tier pick because of Braum nerfs and the Akali rework, and in the second round robin phase everyone is like "let's pick Akali into Xayah anyways".
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Post Post #8053 (isolation #41) » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:13 pm

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Despite the Inven reactions to TL Nami was not intended to be a troll pick by GenG.

It was bad coaching

Heart himself was a Samsung support, a stereotypical heal bitch. His most memorable play is on Nami when he defended something like 1v4 against C9 in 2014 and swindled the game resulting a 3-1 victory for Samsung Blue

A common theme Frosk kept pushing in LPL was the "lane kingdom" which referred to Uzi+Ming and sometimes Xiaohu. Heart picked for lane to smash Uzi+Ming. They failed.

That doesn't mean it was a bad pick or troll pick. It was a bad pick because engage are top class right now for a reason. Zeke's burns for 1000s of damage while giving tank stats. Ardent censer looks dumb in the age of Stormrazor.

Either he wanted to say "but my players beat Uzi in lane, Uzi sucks" no matter the game result or he was testing RNG not for the benefit of his team / players but for the other LCK teams. Bad coaching.
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Post Post #8056 (isolation #42) » Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:39 pm

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okay i just tuned in when ig tore kt apart

considering that rakan is super high priority

teams will actually respect the pick and get easy cc like syndra, if they don't ban or pick him. that is an unforgivable draft mistake from kt. i hope ashe and varus were banned too.
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Post Post #8057 (isolation #43) » Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:36 pm

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hold it. how sure can we be that iG and KT didn't kill the opposing nexuses at the same time? iG looked like they thought they won.

oh boy these TheShy stats. we're gonna see more solo q players in at least sub positions next year
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Post Post #8060 (isolation #44) » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:39 pm

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eliminate KT in quarterfinals so KT Leopard doesn't get any ideas
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Post Post #8083 (isolation #45) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:54 am

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rip my pickem

fnatic was supposed to beat rng in the final, now i'm not sure any more
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Post Post #8084 (isolation #46) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:09 am

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still don't think hjarnan is some god adc like he's being hyped to be. he's better than he was before, but i still see him trip over himself when kiting, missing autos.

i do think he's the best carry g2 could have gotten, though. you need a counterweight from the aggression. a patient player in the 3 in the 1-3-1.

this series said more about uzi's skill level than hjarnan's. needs lucian to beat hjarnan. jackeylove is behaving more like the 2013-2014 finals uzi that would jump into a fight and completely change the expected outcome.
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Post Post #8091 (isolation #47) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:22 pm

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swole man rips off his mask

it was blaber all along
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Post Post #8092 (isolation #48) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:37 pm

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I suppose I was overrating AFs. They're at this tournament because they made it to finals twice. C9 is comparable in that they made it to summer finals.

Second seed from Korea used to mean something. AFs has good players. I mean, at least Kiin, Mowgli, and Kramer are all solid. Something is wrong with this team, and it isn't carrying the weight top class Korean teams typically do.

I expect Mowgli to play the rest of the games. He had a good showing in group stage and I felt he was better than Spirit.

You have to wonder if SKT would do better.
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Post Post #8093 (isolation #49) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:42 pm

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maybe just maybe you shouldn't play a 4fun solo q build top lane just because you smashed in scrims with it, Afreeca.


lck korea is just doing replays of jensen popping kuro at lv2 over and over again LUL

who needs an analyst desk
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Post Post #8094 (isolation #50) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:04 pm

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AFs agrees with me. Mowgli is in.

Feel like AFs could have committed to the Kassadin hover. Ryze v Aatrox wouldn't be fun, but Graves was drafted to help exploit Braum. So, Graves should naturally gravitate botside.

I don't think Viktor was doing anything for the team, but overall the draft has improved from game 1 with key steals. Jensen dropping down to Ahri is pretty sad. Too slothful to play Ekko. Too proud to play Malzahar. I want C9 to lose for this alone.
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Post Post #8096 (isolation #51) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:50 pm

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Three threat comps used to be the gold standard that teams like vintage OMG and Tigers used to perfect. SKT took it further with four threats, but failed to make it work.

C9 has a sleeper fourth threat they never let people see. Sven is a monster.
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Post Post #8098 (isolation #52) » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:23 pm

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I wonder if Jensen knows that he can stop Galio ult

or that he can go triple stasis if he wants to dive into 5 people
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Post Post #8120 (isolation #53) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:32 am

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Thank you Fnatic

I hope I never see that mutant fish freak again
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Post Post #8121 (isolation #54) » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:03 am

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My meta analysis

S tier: Papa, Kobe
A tier: Pastrytime, Vedius, Azael
B tier: Frosk (promotes to S+ tier every time she angers the twitch virgins), Deficio
C tier: Flowers
D tier: Spawn
E tier: that jester guy from mlg 6 years ago who was wearing a hat to cover his male pattern baldness
F tier: Quickshot, Riv, Phreak, LOUD NOISES FLOWERS, LOUD NOISES QUICKSHOT, LOUD NOISES PHREAK

If you disagree with this, your opinions are
SHIT
and you are unable to enjoy watching intellectual macro games
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Post Post #8129 (isolation #55) » Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:39 pm

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LS has vod reviews of some of the games on his youtube channel

The Afreeca ones are pretty good. Something he didn't mention was that C9 and AFs were scrim partners from the beginning of bootcamp. In game 2 he basically says Mowgli needs to focus on the botside quadrant, but he instead focuses on the topside one. The AF botlane in general sucked, and parsing the performance with LS' thoughts on pathing along with the scrims makes me think Sneaky and Zeyzal smashed AFs to the point where they got islanded. Upon realizing that strategy didn't work in game 2, they have Spirit camp botlane and turn it into a party, but it doesn't do anything at all.

Basically, their botlane sucked and the coach even ordered them to be quarantined.
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Post Post #8130 (isolation #56) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:06 pm

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iG's intro video looked like a bullying ad. rip, dudes
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Post Post #8131 (isolation #57) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:18 pm

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okay ornn isn't banned and ig drafted akali j4

in the trash you go. that should have been ornn graves. elo hell coach.

this is just another example of korean fragility. wanting an insurance policy on a dumbass car. how about you crush with a good draft so the AD mid doesn't matter? if anyone can force fights early it's graves braum.
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Post Post #8132 (isolation #58) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:50 pm

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ig was very fortunate that that guy (G2 Perkz) smug face never practiced against wunder in the matchup

vietnam has this super cool counterpick to aatrox. maybe we should learn it? you know, zeros, the only good player on PVB thinks its good.

g2 got totally found out trying 1-3-1 comp again. similar comp: gangplank, lissandra. congrats you can make space better than swain can and get sivir to lategame.
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Post Post #8133 (isolation #59) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:12 pm

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Irelia is a cool pick to switch back into Jayce. Dislike that Hjarnan had a week and is still on Jhin. If he could play Varus at a top level, why wouldn't you just play Varus TK?

ig's comp is macro or die. gragas is a good insurance policy that ensures jayce does nothing in a teamfight. ig seems pretty content to assign favorable lanes and play g2's game. perkz can't match the jayce due to lack of TP.
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Post Post #8134 (isolation #60) » Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:25 pm

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i suppose if you don't believe you can't enjoy the series

i expect my 3-2 fiesta tomorrow
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Post Post #8144 (isolation #61) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:02 pm

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Rekkles is going to flash forward for a kill on Jackeylove causing Kim to throw out all his notes, swim home and apply for unemployment

Tell me that Fnatic isn't a team of chads.
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Post Post #8147 (isolation #62) » Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:22 pm

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Image SMOrc
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Post Post #8150 (isolation #63) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:57 am

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Stopped watching a little bit into game 2. Wasn't shocked to find out it was a 3-0.

1. I liked the Gangplank into Viktor game 1. I especially liked how Svenskeren smashed the Fnatic bot lane 8 minutes in and made Rekkles uninstall
2. Svenskeren was justified in diving Viktor because Broxah was spotted by the pink ward while Caps went mia. Not getting the xp and dying was worse than 1 for 1.
3. I dreamed an alternate universe where people not named Kiin were allowed to play Gangplank. What the fuck did Ekko do for the team? Also why did Licorice need Daddy Sven in a counterpick lane

4. Why pick blue side if you're going to first pick Viktor
5. Why ''''''''''''''''''flex''''''''''''''''' it and pick Aatrox with Fnatic last pick
6. Where was the on demand displacement for Rakan. Tristana was that role in game 1.
7. Why didn't Broxah get his Lee Sin banned when he was playing it all week in solo q? Meanwhile Sven was spamming Eve and couldn't animation cancel with Graves (the only reason you pick Graves).
8. Not picking Braum Lucian in first rotation. You're picking Graves into his counter matchup (Xin) in first rotation anyway. Why pick Graves first rotation at all if you don't have Braum.

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Post Post #8151 (isolation #64) » Sun Oct 28, 2018 3:13 am

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gonna cleanse my palate with rox vs skt '16 and m5 vs the azubu teams '13 today
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Post Post #8168 (isolation #65) » Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:46 am

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The problem with ADCs is that tanks suck.

Look at the top tier tanks:
Galio (semi-Global), Ornn, Sion, Shen (support flex+global), Poppy

Gragas is top tier, but pros have gone beyond just the jungle damage item into two damage items, so he isn't a tank as jungle. He doesn't win top lane against carries or as a counter to other top tier tanks, except Shen, which is not only unlikely to happen, but a questionable counterpick too.

Olaf isn't a true tank. He's what I call "aggro tank" or "threat tank". He has to stay ahead to be able to disrupt the enemy team.

All other tanks are in bot lane as support. They don't count because they're buying zeke and 100 control wards. Alistar gets a mention for popping ult and going in first for vision only.

Nocturne shuts down 2 of the top tier tanks with paranoia.

So you have three top tier true tanks remaining. Ornn, who is broken OP because of his braindead ult. Sion, who gets to go glacial and get guaranteed utility out of his zombie form (?????). Poppy is the best scaling tank in the game, but her engage potential is made up of mostly flanking attacks.

This is why I keep bringing up Gangplank+Lissandra. Between their ults and Gangplank's barrels, they're as disruptive as a tank with a lot more firepower.

All of this is as a result of rune damage still being out of whack while tank runes suck. Having 2 seconds of true tanking out of an aftershock support is hilariously bad. Grasp is the only thing keeping any tanks in play at all. In exchange, Ornn needs his horn nerfed. Sion needs to lose all the speed in his zombie form, in exchange for maybe more slow on E. So, Sion has to go grasp, but can still go comet.

Edit: I guess Ning went Zac and full tank Jarvan, but this seems more stylistic than anything concrete. I mean just Gragas being played as damage alone shows that early game damage is worth more than a capable tank later into the game.
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Post Post #8237 (isolation #66) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:31 am

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AD items don't suck. The problem is that there's only two good items that are any good, because Riot has a hate boner for critical chance. The zeal items used to be the best DPS items in the game just from attack speed alone. Now you're paying for some dumbass passive ability you never wanted.

This is more for the regular LoL thread but something on my S9 wishlist is removing Bork and putting the active onto Stormrazor along with making the item ranged only. Bork's a bandaid item from league of cleavers/health stacking preseason 3 and it's not really possible to get to the same amount of HP as people did back then. Plus that's supposed to be crit's job.

Riot won't do that because Stormrazor is just the next attempt to remove crit from the game. If you're always critting, you're not really critting.
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Post Post #8238 (isolation #67) » Thu Nov 01, 2018 2:05 pm

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Finals are tomorrow night

You know how you walk into a room and your brain creates a new "area" for it?

It's November and I'm already more hyped for Carlsen vs Caruana and Starcraft this month.

Big mistake
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Post Post #8239 (isolation #68) » Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:53 pm

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drafts for both teams have both been bad

the only good decision all series was the jax flex to avoid the camille aatrox flex, but then fnatic put viktor mid and last picked urgot

it's fitting that fnatic lose with soaz on a dog champ
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Post Post #8256 (isolation #69) » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:14 pm

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I thought Rekkles and sOAZ were the only fnc players not constantly shitting themselves the entire series

Having Bwipo in after getting smashed game 1 was awful. Once TheShy knew he was better, he got Dyrused. sOAZ came into game 3 and treated TheShy like shit. He didn't bop him but you can feel the disdain sOAZ had for him from how he was laning. He played very cool in the face of a monster.
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Post Post #8257 (isolation #70) » Sat Nov 03, 2018 12:22 pm

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Rookie v Faker is finally a hype matchup. Last time this was a thing it was only because KaKAO was so good up until he wasn't.

I'm not cheering for SKT ever if they sign Smeb. Even if they try to be as likeable as possible by signing Rush, retaining Faker, and throwing Bang in a river. The fact that Smeb is in talks to join SKT disgusts me.

DamWon is probably overrated. I'll be happy if Griffin smashes everyone, but the most likely scenario is that SKT comes back. An SKT I'll hate more than 2017.
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Post Post #8259 (isolation #71) » Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:08 pm

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I think everyone lost. China happened to lose less.
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Post Post #8260 (isolation #72) » Sat Nov 03, 2018 1:09 pm

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And I'd say the same thing about Europe if FNC 3-0ed with both sides having shit for drafts.
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Post Post #8263 (isolation #73) » Thu Nov 15, 2018 12:05 pm

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New SKT so far:

Huni (offer made)
Peanut (offer made)
Faker
Teddy (in talks to sign)
???

We know at least three starters have left. Those would be: Thal, Bang, Effort. Blossom's been on the bench and was never really liked by the coaching staff so it's safe to assume he's gone. Wolf is on the bench because he's apparently been dropping weight for surgery all year. He can't start. Untara, Blank, and Faker are still in contract. Rumor mill makes me think that both Untara and Blank are being retained as subs. I don't think the fifth is Mata because Huni/Peanut are going to be commanding a pretty big salary on top of SKT paying for
Faker
. He'd had to take a lower salary for it to make sense.

Teddy used to play with Wraith also known as Casper in Spring. It's a long shot that SKT would revise their position on Casper and bring him back. He was considered a clear upgrade to 2013 Winter (perfect season) Poohmandu, and there was a lot of speculation that he was uncoachable. As far as I know he was let go because of the AHQ Korea scandal. Maybe SKT has mellowed out on the perceived PR backlash considering the person that broke the story, AHQ Promise, is currently in jail for raping a woman, did so before his suicide attempt, and preferred jail time to apologizing. After all, Wraith was never in on it, it was the jungler (now a fucking
coach
for Hanwha Life E-sports) and the coach (killed himself) that organised the match fixing.

I wouldn't be surprised if MaRin comes back. He looks happy when he streams. Too happy for someone that got released from a shit tier Chinese team. People have been jokingly saying that only MaRin can save SKT again. Actually having looked at his op.gg I think it's almost certain that he's returning to AFs, which mean Kiin will probably go to the new Kingzone team / KT / maybe SKT / china / whoever has fat stacks. I saw MaRin duoing with Mowgli a lot, and he's now also duoing with Spirit and CoreJJ. There's a rumor that SKT wants Spirit, and CoreJJ is a top tier support... All three of them could go to SKT, but the duo queue with Mowgli makes me think the former two are being retained along with MaRin and CoreJJ (only Ruler and CuVee were retained by GenG) would be signed by Afreeca.

This roster is 2017 attempt 2. This doesn't solve the problem of Peanut not wanting to share time with Agent 612. At the end, only Huni and Faker were the only people not playing like shit, so maybe the coaching staff changed their opinion on Huni. It's also become more acceptable to give more jungle attention to top, and back when Huni was getting it it was almost a cardinal sin. Removing Bang is ++++to my ability to support SKT but I don't think he was toxic in-game, maybe out of game. Bang took pressure better than most and was fine stalling to late to prove he was better than his opponent. I don't know enough of the specifics to know if this is a clear upgrade over the 2017 roster.
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Post Post #8264 (isolation #74) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:47 am

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zven is retiring

source: my ass
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Post Post #8267 (isolation #75) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:57 am

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welcome back to europe, Niels
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Post Post #8268 (isolation #76) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:50 am

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rip Origen sOAZ-Sven-Bjerg-Niels-Mithy 20/11/2018-20/11/2018
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Post Post #8272 (isolation #77) » Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:56 am

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upset was in the g2 house last i knew. pretty sure you're getting trolled.
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Post Post #8277 (isolation #78) » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:28 am

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so is there anyone in the world that hears the n word? skip to 15 seconds into the video to avoid the priming.
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Post Post #8278 (isolation #79) » Wed May 22, 2019 4:10 pm

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This isn't really a spoiler

Why the fuck did Xmithie holster sejuani ult game 3 against G2? They were massively down and Caps was already in outplay mode. By the time he sent it, the dive was already over, and he got nothing from it. The only somewhat reasonable explanation is that he thought that the dive would fail, but, again, massive gold deficit overcomes that? Hard to take competition seriously if garbage like this makes it to the finals. How they beat iG so convincingly but fail basic (pre 2 minutes) laning against somebody that always goes for first blood boggles the mind.
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